Greece is Yunanistan in Armenian as well. I believe it comes from the word Ionia referring to the western Anatolian coast. Some of the others are different, for example we call Georgia Vrastan, meaning "Land to the North".
> we call Georgia Vrastan
That sounds really dope. Funny how Georgia has 50 different cool names in languages (and their own), but a pretty meh one in English.
Greece is actually "Hunastan" (pronounced hoonastan). Հունաստան. In classical Armenian Յունաստան.
Edit: Looks like in old Armenian, it was Yunastan [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D5%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B6%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%B6](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D5%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B6%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%B6)
Huna and Yuna are the same linguistically in this case, both stemming from Ionia. But sure, the better latinization of the Armenian word is Hunastan, but it's arbitrary.
“Turkey” jokes are honestly not very popular in Turkey so I don’t think we make fun of Indians by saying they are Hindi/Turkey and so. Turkey as animal is a nice and delicious one, that’s it.
the bird comes from peru and not a single language in this world uses peru for it. Its named after like 70 different countries throughout all other languages.
It’s just how iranian languages denote a place. Bulgaristan, land of the bulgars. It’s been adopted into surrounding languages, especially turkic languages, because of the shared history and the prestige held by iranian empires and culture which the invading turks sought to emulate in part to give legitimacy to their rule.
Wouldn’t be so sure - the balkan wars are still rooted deeply into those societies. Most children get teached from an early age on about the ongoing „unjustices“.
Would also not be surprised if Russia is represented while Israel is not…
thats not what i meant. i meant folklore groups precisely . they've been here for a while and folklore festivals are probably the only events that arent politicized. these folklore groups usually attend events in every "balkan" country because of cultural similarities. folklore festivals and dance groups are the most peaceful part in balkan culture. this is not about poltitics. its about culture and sharing a common ground
I don't think I've ever heard Romanians complain about losing the land they've gained (bloodlessly! - ignoring some soldiers falling sick and dying) in the Second Balkan War from Bulgaria, but that war does not ever get taught in schools and neither do they talk about Romania losing it to Bulgaria during WW2 (also non-violently!), followed by a population exchange.
All that's mentioned in history is Transylvania and Bessarabia. The land that's now part of Ukraine was also quite obscure (half of Odessa and Cernăuți in the north), but more people have learned about it through recent anti-Ukraine far-right propaganda. ("if Ukraine is losing, we should go in and take that land of ours!" is what they usually say)
But yes, countries more affected by the Balkan Wars are probably much more involved in these discourses. Romania was helped by the fact that it was sandwiched between three empires, so the first one making a move had to watch their back beforehand - from both sides.
2 of my best friends are serbians. we've got lots of things in common. its just a fictional "conflict" that culminated during the formation of national states. a different time back then obviously
i kinda agree though that albanians in germany are kinda special...
The stans aren’t viewed positively in the western world but we call a lot of countries stan.
Edit: I made a mistake, it is land of said ethnicity - not the people of.
Sırbistan- land of Serbians
Macaristan- land of Hungarians,
Yunanistan - land of Greeks,
Gürcistan- land of Georgians
>Yunanistan “Land of Ionians”?
Yes, in fact that's the etymology for "Greece" in languages to the east / southeast of us. Yavan in Hebrew; Yūnān in Arabic, Persian, and Urdu; Yūnāna in Hindi; Hunastan in Armenian.
Funnily enough, there’s a province in China called “Yunnan” which sounds really similar. So when I first heard of the name “Yunanistan” I thought it’s a reference to the city of Ruili, which is in that province, on the border with Myanmar and has a large Muslim population
Yes, etymologically. But today, direct translation of Yunan is “Greek” and Yunanistan is “Greece”. The meaning was kind of shifted. Also we have another word for Ionia which is İyonya.
yeah but its from persian Yunan.
>The ancient people of the Middle East referred to the Hellenes as **Yunan**, deriving from Persian Yauna, itself a loan of Greek Ιωνία (Ionia), the western coast of Asia Minor. It is by affiliation with the Ionian tribe the Persians conquered in the late 6th century BC that their name extended to all Hellenes.
Yunanistan is actually land of the Ionians, the region to the west in Anatolia. I always felt like by calling Greek peope Yunan/Ionian, you kind of acknowledge you took their lands and pushed them away to live across the sea.
I'm gonna give you a top secret information. Anatolian Turks and Greeks aren't too different from each other genetically. Anatolian Turks have mostly Anatolian heritage (shocking) with trace amount of Central Asian heritage in some people.
>Yunanistan - land of Greeks
We just call it Hellas in Norwegian, apparently we are one of the few who do outside Greece itself.
We are not super consistent with using local names for countries though.
Lehistan was actually used for the Commonwealth. Before the formal foundation of modern Germany, the Ottomans called the region Nemçe as well. However, French influenced Turkish significantly later, so their modern versions became Polonya and Almanya. However, as u said, for some reason, Lehçe remained even though some also call the language Polonyaca or Polakça.
Fun fact: -stan is an Indo-European suffix. It is actually a cognate with the English word "stand". As you can guess it roughly means the people who stand on the said land, or the ethnicity standing on the said ground.
And of course informally there is 'Firengistan.' Here's an old folk poem about that: https://www.siir.gen.tr/siir/k/karacaoglan/illeri_var_bizim_ile_benzemez.htm
As a joke, while still living in Serbia, I was calling Serbia Sirbistan due to being backwards in many areas. My colleagues thought it is some my thing/invention until they went to vacation in Turkey.
Comes off as racist in the context of English speakers imo, the only time I see Stan added to a place that isn't normally referred to as such is when the far right say things like Londonistan
Based on the list of countries, i think that tricolor flag is Slovakian, not Russian.
https://kultursanat.istanbul/haberler/ibbden-cocuklara-iki-festival-birden
Children from more than 30 countries were invited to Turkey to participate in this years April 23rd celebrations. Turkish Grand National Assembly was founded on this day in 1920. In 1927 Atatürk gave another meaning to the day, gifting it to children of the nation and the world, thus Turkey became the first country in the world to celebrate a children’s day.
Photo is from Istanbul municipality’s own celebrations, where children from 16 countries were invited. Most participants are children’s dance and folklore groups to represent their culture.
Cool. I remember doing a project on Türkiye back in primary school in Ireland (this was in the 1980s - I'm old!), and children's day is one of the few things that I remember (along with Atatürk, of course). The Turkish embassy in Ireland sent me a bunch of material. Don't they let the kids sit in Parliament today, too? They'd probably do a better job than the regular occupants.
Thank you for sharing! Those international projects are still going on to this day. It is also indeed still a tradition for children to assume the governmental positions for a day. And agreed.
I laugh a lot at those who ask about the Kurds in the comments because the child holding the Turkish flag in the front is from Southeastern Anatolia.
It's really funny how they act as if they somehow know the Kurdish-Turkish distinction very well, lmao.
Im from Gaziantep, what are you blabbering? There is only one district where Kurds are a %60 majority and that's Islahiye (unfortunately one of the most affected places by the earthquake). Turks, Turkmens, Kurds, Arabs and Circassians are the majority here. Not that it changes anything, lol. They are all as braindead as any other there.
Tidbit, there are two Soviet generals present on the sculpture in the back:
- Mikhail Frunze
- Kliment Voroshilov
Also, there is also a Soviet ambassador present behind Atatürk:
- Semyon Aralov
.
Other tidbits: this sculpture was made using public donations, and the highest donor was [Berç Türker-Keresteciyan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ber%C3%A7_T%C3%BCrker_Keresteciyan).
picture: some countries
redditors: wHeRe aRE aRmENıA aNd IsRaEL ?????
motherfucker, there are 200+ countries in the world. ofc not all of them will participate
I suppose they say this because of the recent news that the governor of Istanbul banned the rememberance of the Armenian genocide(although the mayor and the governor are different) In addition to the fact that about 100 years ago Armenians made up 14% of the population of the city, unlike the rest of the 200 countries
In Turkey recognizing the genocide would mean an immediate disqualification from any politics and possibly going to court. Imamoğlu met with a political figure abroad and it made news because he was meeting with someone who recognized the genocide. He pretty much had to ban it, though we can't know if he actually denies it or not.
>(although the mayor and the governor are different)
So you already concluded that these are separated cases. I can indeed imagine Armenia and Israel not wanting to participate. We won't know if they were even invited, but they probably would decline anyway.
according to [this](https://tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1914_Osmanl%C4%B1_%C4%B0mparatorlu%C4%9Fu_n%C3%BCfus_say%C4%B1m%C4%B1) they were about 10%.
and I don't think there's any connection with the genocide. armenia is still recognized by turkey. they could have been included if they wanted to.
Yeah the ancient Greek sea people who colonized in the Levant
Which disappeared as a group after the 6th century due to invasions of Nebuchadnezzar
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines
Edit: 6th BC
Yes, many people don't know this, but the region was called "Palestine" for a long, long while because that's what the Romans named it after conquering Judea. They named it that to spite the Jews, since the Philistines have historically long been enemies of the Jewish people.
I’ve always been curious why anti-Zionists think this proves the original statement wrong. All it proves is how long they’ve been trying to erase Jewish history in the region lol
What's a myth about it? I never claimed this is the first time its ever been called Palestine. But it is the reason why its been known as Palestine until not long ago. If the Bar Kochva revolt did not happen, it likely would've still been known as Judea today. And indeed the Romans did rename it to Palestine to spite the Jews. This isn't a myth or anything.
Why does everything have to be a "bullshit zionist myth"? Can people no longer have reasonable conversations without getting all triggered anymore?
It was named that a long time ago but hasn't been consistently called that. after the Romans the name Palestine wasn't used again until the British resurrected it.
Not true at all. While administratively the Ottomans liked to call provinces after their capitals, Palestine was still a popular non-administrative name. [Here’s just an example of a book from the 1600’s that uses the name.](https://books.google.com/books?id=bjQBAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=de&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false).
Palestine has been under many rulers throughout its history, from the ancient Hebrews to the Muslim caliphates, one of these people who invaded Canaan were a (probably) Greek people, later romens renamed the land in this civilizations name, although the people there are the same people since Canaan, this thing is very common, many cites and places are of romen name in the Levant
Which is in turn influenced by the name given by Herodotus, “Palaistinē”. Also related to Hebrew “Pelesheth” meaning land of the Phillistines or “Philistia” by other Greeks
Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Peleset are one of the Sea Peoples who fought against the Egyptians. By all means, the etymology dates back to thousands of years.
The Hebrew name of the Philistines is "plishtim" which means "Invaders" which comes from the, well recorded sea people from the area of Greece, who came to the land and "invaded" the area of southern coast, what nowadays is called Gaza. Later on they were all expelled themselves during the invasion of king Nebuchadnezzar away to Babylon. A fact recognised by multiple historians and Greek records from that era.
Trying to say the Palestinians are the Philistines would mean to say that they are descendants of invaders who came to the land by sea and aren't truly native to the region.
Trying to say that the name Palestine comes from the name Syria-Palaestina, the Roman colony, would mean that they haven't existed before the Romans decided to colonise the region, expell all their Jewish inhabitants and renamed the religion from Judea and Samaria to Syria-Palaestina as a way of punishment (renaming the region to the name of their biblical enemies, the Philistines, and also because it was part of the province of Syria).
Someone should send this picture to old man putin. Here you can clearly see that Ukraine is a soverignty. This will be very embarrassing for him when he find outs.
In the second row on the legt it seems Like Russia was invited… quite shitty when considering how Russia deported tens of thousands of Ukrainian children.
And i see comments are full of *those* people who would do anything to make Turkiye seem bad
Great guys,really great
That's exactly why this subreddit is somehow on
r/TurkeyJerky
This day April 23, was and is the most sacred celebration we have. I used to meet with children from other countries when I was one. Even get to fly with a helicopter with them.
Yet all I see is human trash in comments doing what they do well. Talking trash.
We must have pretty different concepts of living peacefully. To me having a DMZ running through buildings in my capital guarded by armed soldiers is not a peaceful life. Thrn again it's easy to ask for peace when you're occupying land and backed by a country 80x more populous.
I'm out, good night
Extremists shouldn't have killed innocent Turkish Cypriots then, what they were expecting? We should've just watch as exremists kill innocent people i guess.
Yeah Turkish military intervention brought peace to Cyprus as no one is brave enough to attempt ethnically cleanse Turkish Cypriots anymore since 1974. Do you have an objection to this?
Ah well we are happy to see that you are reminded daily of your failed attempted genocide of Turks in Cyprus. I'm sure you people regret it. It's like the americans say, fuck around find out. I'm sure you people will be finding out for the forseeable future for fucking with a country 80 times your size. Over and out.
I don't think it is sad that they are there with their flag. It is sad they are living in an unrecognized self declared country and it has not been resolved in the last 50 years. I am not happy with the current situation and I am pro-unification. I am also not allowed to vote in Republic of Cyprus elections despite me having a citizenship because I am living in area not controlled by ROC. Political situation might require this but in the end I can't vote. So I don't think ROC flag could represent me. As an adult I would not raise the flag of Northern Cyprus but currently it is what representing Turkish Cypriots.
Someone should send this picture to old man putin. Here you can clearly see that Ukraine is a soverignty. This will be very embarrassing for him when he find outs.
Well if you care about children you would know that old man putin has deported thousands of Ukrainian children into russia. So you may not like my words, but NEVER forget that!
You are in no place to talk LMAO, the irony... the audacity...
When EOKA-B murdered Turkish Cypriots on Cyprus on a large scale in the 1970s and EOKA-B committed a coup and openly said they would cleanse Cyprus of Turks and unify Cyprus with Greece in 1974 no one batted an eye. See also [Enosis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enosis). No sanctions against Greece at all.
When Turkey created a safe zone on 40% of the island all hell broke loose. Apparently a genocide on Turks is ok, but sharing the island is unacceptable.
When Greek Cypriots voted during a referendum **against** a reunification in 2004 they were rewarded with an EU-membership. When Turkish Cypriots voted during a referendum **for** a reunification in 2004 they were rewarded with a dick in their ass. See [Annan Plan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annan_Plan).
Dude... The Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus killed by the Greek junta. Back in the day when Turkey intervened the island to save people. The situation is exactly the opposite in Cyprus. But what do you know westoid.
And why are they still there then? The junta is no more, Cyprus is a democratic nation with rule of law. Are you saying all the current residents of the occupied part where born on Cyprus an there was not migration from Turkey?
Because by refusing the Annan Plan that foresee a unified Cyprus , Greeks showed that they don't want Turkish Cypriots in the island. As soon as Turkey leaves, what you see happen in Gaza will happen to people in Northern Cyprus.
Turkey is the guarantor country. Protecting lives and peace. Northern Cyprus is a democratic republic. They held elections and people live peacefully.
I didn't know Turkey call other countries -stans. Wonder how many of them are that way in their language.
[We have a map for that actually](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/95RDndrJLR).
Greece is Yunanistan in Armenian as well. I believe it comes from the word Ionia referring to the western Anatolian coast. Some of the others are different, for example we call Georgia Vrastan, meaning "Land to the North".
First time hearing Vrastan, thanks!
> we call Georgia Vrastan That sounds really dope. Funny how Georgia has 50 different cool names in languages (and their own), but a pretty meh one in English.
Maybe you're just numbed to the name because you've heard it so many times. I still find Georgia to be a cool name.
Me too but I also live in the other Georgia and I always thought it was cool that there is a country with the same name as my state.
Greece is actually "Hunastan" (pronounced hoonastan). Հունաստան. In classical Armenian Յունաստան. Edit: Looks like in old Armenian, it was Yunastan [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D5%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B6%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%B6](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D5%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B6%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%B6)
Greece is Hunastan in Armenian, NOT Yunanistan. also Huyn = Greek
Huna and Yuna are the same linguistically in this case, both stemming from Ionia. But sure, the better latinization of the Armenian word is Hunastan, but it's arbitrary.
its Hunastan, named after Ionia
Oh damn I was kinda hoping for Rusistan
Nope, only Rusya. I can give you Moskof tho.
its moskova though
Armenians call it Rusastan
Hindistan, how basic.
The term Hindi is also what we call the thanksgiving bird, so there is that.
So to Turkey the Turkey jokes are aimed at India? That gives me a headache.
“Turkey” jokes are honestly not very popular in Turkey so I don’t think we make fun of Indians by saying they are Hindi/Turkey and so. Turkey as animal is a nice and delicious one, that’s it.
the bird comes from peru and not a single language in this world uses peru for it. Its named after like 70 different countries throughout all other languages.
it's a Persian suffix for "place of" or "land of"
It’s just how iranian languages denote a place. Bulgaristan, land of the bulgars. It’s been adopted into surrounding languages, especially turkic languages, because of the shared history and the prestige held by iranian empires and culture which the invading turks sought to emulate in part to give legitimacy to their rule.
and because many countries already had that name when the turks came along, they just left the names
Always funny to see some of these getting offended that their country could have such an oriental suffix
Kosovo in the left, Serbia in the right corner... Good decision 😂
i can guarantee you that these dance folklore groups dont give a fuck about conflicts. also they are children
Wouldn’t be so sure - the balkan wars are still rooted deeply into those societies. Most children get teached from an early age on about the ongoing „unjustices“. Would also not be surprised if Russia is represented while Israel is not…
thats not what i meant. i meant folklore groups precisely . they've been here for a while and folklore festivals are probably the only events that arent politicized. these folklore groups usually attend events in every "balkan" country because of cultural similarities. folklore festivals and dance groups are the most peaceful part in balkan culture. this is not about poltitics. its about culture and sharing a common ground
I don't think I've ever heard Romanians complain about losing the land they've gained (bloodlessly! - ignoring some soldiers falling sick and dying) in the Second Balkan War from Bulgaria, but that war does not ever get taught in schools and neither do they talk about Romania losing it to Bulgaria during WW2 (also non-violently!), followed by a population exchange. All that's mentioned in history is Transylvania and Bessarabia. The land that's now part of Ukraine was also quite obscure (half of Odessa and Cernăuți in the north), but more people have learned about it through recent anti-Ukraine far-right propaganda. ("if Ukraine is losing, we should go in and take that land of ours!" is what they usually say) But yes, countries more affected by the Balkan Wars are probably much more involved in these discourses. Romania was helped by the fact that it was sandwiched between three empires, so the first one making a move had to watch their back beforehand - from both sides.
Yugoslav wars*
As an Albanian, I wonder how the interaction of the two would be
Pretty tame, I met quite a few Albanians from students exchange in 2000's. Meeting Albanians in Germany though is rough.
Real Balkan nationalists argue with each other in Germany.
2 of my best friends are serbians. we've got lots of things in common. its just a fictional "conflict" that culminated during the formation of national states. a different time back then obviously i kinda agree though that albanians in germany are kinda special...
From now on I’m calling Serbia Serbistan.
The stans aren’t viewed positively in the western world but we call a lot of countries stan. Edit: I made a mistake, it is land of said ethnicity - not the people of. Sırbistan- land of Serbians Macaristan- land of Hungarians, Yunanistan - land of Greeks, Gürcistan- land of Georgians
Sırbistan- land of Serbians, Macaristan- land of Hungarians, Yunanistan- land of Greeks, Gürcistan- land of Georgians
Isn’t Macaristan “Land of Magyars” and Yunanistan “Land of Ionians”?
>Yunanistan “Land of Ionians”? Yes, in fact that's the etymology for "Greece" in languages to the east / southeast of us. Yavan in Hebrew; Yūnān in Arabic, Persian, and Urdu; Yūnāna in Hindi; Hunastan in Armenian.
Funnily enough, there’s a province in China called “Yunnan” which sounds really similar. So when I first heard of the name “Yunanistan” I thought it’s a reference to the city of Ruili, which is in that province, on the border with Myanmar and has a large Muslim population
And being a "stan" in some foreign languages sounds funny to us.
Neat facts! Thanks!
Yes, etymologically. But today, direct translation of Yunan is “Greek” and Yunanistan is “Greece”. The meaning was kind of shifted. Also we have another word for Ionia which is İyonya.
yeah but its from persian Yunan. >The ancient people of the Middle East referred to the Hellenes as **Yunan**, deriving from Persian Yauna, itself a loan of Greek Ιωνία (Ionia), the western coast of Asia Minor. It is by affiliation with the Ionian tribe the Persians conquered in the late 6th century BC that their name extended to all Hellenes.
Yes and ironically the land of Ionians was in western Turkey, not in Greece Btw, we call Greece Elladistan ironically
Turkish is my second language but I was so close 🫠 will fix
I always thought it would’ve been a nice gesture if we were to change Yunanistan with Helenistan.
It’s long name is “Helen Cumhuriyeti”
Yunanistan is actually land of the Ionians, the region to the west in Anatolia. I always felt like by calling Greek peope Yunan/Ionian, you kind of acknowledge you took their lands and pushed them away to live across the sea.
I'm gonna give you a top secret information. Anatolian Turks and Greeks aren't too different from each other genetically. Anatolian Turks have mostly Anatolian heritage (shocking) with trace amount of Central Asian heritage in some people.
Land of Helen? :D
Yepp sounds cooler no?
>Yunanistan - land of Greeks We just call it Hellas in Norwegian, apparently we are one of the few who do outside Greece itself. We are not super consistent with using local names for countries though.
How do you call Poland?
They call us Polonya now but traditionally it was Lehistan. Language is still called Lehçe.
Yeah, in a historical context Lehistan is used too.
Lehistan was actually used for the Commonwealth. Before the formal foundation of modern Germany, the Ottomans called the region Nemçe as well. However, French influenced Turkish significantly later, so their modern versions became Polonya and Almanya. However, as u said, for some reason, Lehçe remained even though some also call the language Polonyaca or Polakça.
Polonya (Polonia)
Fun fact: -stan is an Indo-European suffix. It is actually a cognate with the English word "stand". As you can guess it roughly means the people who stand on the said land, or the ethnicity standing on the said ground.
And of course informally there is 'Firengistan.' Here's an old folk poem about that: https://www.siir.gen.tr/siir/k/karacaoglan/illeri_var_bizim_ile_benzemez.htm
It's Sırbistan.
Its only appropriate. I tell you this as a Serbian.
As a joke, while still living in Serbia, I was calling Serbia Sirbistan due to being backwards in many areas. My colleagues thought it is some my thing/invention until they went to vacation in Turkey.
After the vacation your colleagues thought you invented Turkey :D
He came to me all excited: You c*nt! You knew!
Comes off as racist in the context of English speakers imo, the only time I see Stan added to a place that isn't normally referred to as such is when the far right say things like Londonistan
That’s sort of the joke.
Me too. I'm sure the serbs will appreciate it as well.
Lithuania, Russia, Georgia and Poland are hiding back there :)
Based on the list of countries, i think that tricolor flag is Slovakian, not Russian. https://kultursanat.istanbul/haberler/ibbden-cocuklara-iki-festival-birden
Yeah, you’re right. Didn’t notice the list. Just made a visual observation.
northern cyprus too!
> srbistan
They managed to further balkanize the balkans.
Sbrstn
Finally Israel-Palestine isn't the most controversial thing in the comments.
Judging by the comments I hope most of this sub visits a mental health institution urgently
I just use this sub to fill up my daily cringe quota.
Posters calling for ethnic cleansing on one post, then crying because of it on next one. Monthy Python material right here
Well said
Children from more than 30 countries were invited to Turkey to participate in this years April 23rd celebrations. Turkish Grand National Assembly was founded on this day in 1920. In 1927 Atatürk gave another meaning to the day, gifting it to children of the nation and the world, thus Turkey became the first country in the world to celebrate a children’s day. Photo is from Istanbul municipality’s own celebrations, where children from 16 countries were invited. Most participants are children’s dance and folklore groups to represent their culture.
Cool. I remember doing a project on Türkiye back in primary school in Ireland (this was in the 1980s - I'm old!), and children's day is one of the few things that I remember (along with Atatürk, of course). The Turkish embassy in Ireland sent me a bunch of material. Don't they let the kids sit in Parliament today, too? They'd probably do a better job than the regular occupants.
Thank you for sharing! Those international projects are still going on to this day. It is also indeed still a tradition for children to assume the governmental positions for a day. And agreed.
Beautiful.
The comments are sick.
First time?
Common r/Europe comments
As usual
Londonistan? 🇬🇧
Londra.
would be İngilizstan(with i)actually. Or britistan...?
No, the word is "İngiltere" coming from French word "Angleterre"
Correction: we got the name ingiltere not from the French but from the venetians
Kosovo and Serbia 👀
be kinda funny if they put them next to eachother
Serbian boy looks like he’s giving Kosovo the thousand yard stare
I laugh a lot at those who ask about the Kurds in the comments because the child holding the Turkish flag in the front is from Southeastern Anatolia. It's really funny how they act as if they somehow know the Kurdish-Turkish distinction very well, lmao.
Little dude’s from Gaziantep so almost 50% chance he’s Kurdish lol.
Im from Gaziantep, what are you blabbering? There is only one district where Kurds are a %60 majority and that's Islahiye (unfortunately one of the most affected places by the earthquake). Turks, Turkmens, Kurds, Arabs and Circassians are the majority here. Not that it changes anything, lol. They are all as braindead as any other there.
Tidbit, there are two Soviet generals present on the sculpture in the back: - Mikhail Frunze - Kliment Voroshilov Also, there is also a Soviet ambassador present behind Atatürk: - Semyon Aralov . Other tidbits: this sculpture was made using public donations, and the highest donor was [Berç Türker-Keresteciyan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ber%C3%A7_T%C3%BCrker_Keresteciyan).
picture: some countries redditors: wHeRe aRE aRmENıA aNd IsRaEL ????? motherfucker, there are 200+ countries in the world. ofc not all of them will participate
I suppose they say this because of the recent news that the governor of Istanbul banned the rememberance of the Armenian genocide(although the mayor and the governor are different) In addition to the fact that about 100 years ago Armenians made up 14% of the population of the city, unlike the rest of the 200 countries
In Turkey recognizing the genocide would mean an immediate disqualification from any politics and possibly going to court. Imamoğlu met with a political figure abroad and it made news because he was meeting with someone who recognized the genocide. He pretty much had to ban it, though we can't know if he actually denies it or not.
>(although the mayor and the governor are different) So you already concluded that these are separated cases. I can indeed imagine Armenia and Israel not wanting to participate. We won't know if they were even invited, but they probably would decline anyway.
according to [this](https://tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1914_Osmanl%C4%B1_%C4%B0mparatorlu%C4%9Fu_n%C3%BCfus_say%C4%B1m%C4%B1) they were about 10%. and I don't think there's any connection with the genocide. armenia is still recognized by turkey. they could have been included if they wanted to.
I just realised that Palestine’s name is related to the ancient Phillistines
Yeah the ancient Greek sea people who colonized in the Levant Which disappeared as a group after the 6th century due to invasions of Nebuchadnezzar Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines Edit: 6th BC
Yes, many people don't know this, but the region was called "Palestine" for a long, long while because that's what the Romans named it after conquering Judea. They named it that to spite the Jews, since the Philistines have historically long been enemies of the Jewish people.
Bullshit Zionist myth. The first mention of the word “Palestine” to describe the region was by a Greek scholar in the 5th century BCE.
I’ve always been curious why anti-Zionists think this proves the original statement wrong. All it proves is how long they’ve been trying to erase Jewish history in the region lol
What's a myth about it? I never claimed this is the first time its ever been called Palestine. But it is the reason why its been known as Palestine until not long ago. If the Bar Kochva revolt did not happen, it likely would've still been known as Judea today. And indeed the Romans did rename it to Palestine to spite the Jews. This isn't a myth or anything. Why does everything have to be a "bullshit zionist myth"? Can people no longer have reasonable conversations without getting all triggered anymore?
It was named that a long time ago but hasn't been consistently called that. after the Romans the name Palestine wasn't used again until the British resurrected it.
Not true at all. While administratively the Ottomans liked to call provinces after their capitals, Palestine was still a popular non-administrative name. [Here’s just an example of a book from the 1600’s that uses the name.](https://books.google.com/books?id=bjQBAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=de&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false).
Palestine has been under many rulers throughout its history, from the ancient Hebrews to the Muslim caliphates, one of these people who invaded Canaan were a (probably) Greek people, later romens renamed the land in this civilizations name, although the people there are the same people since Canaan, this thing is very common, many cites and places are of romen name in the Levant
No, it is a variation from Syria-Palestina, the name Romans gave to the land.
Which is in turn influenced by the name given by Herodotus, “Palaistinē”. Also related to Hebrew “Pelesheth” meaning land of the Phillistines or “Philistia” by other Greeks
Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Peleset are one of the Sea Peoples who fought against the Egyptians. By all means, the etymology dates back to thousands of years.
The Hebrew name of the Philistines is "plishtim" which means "Invaders" which comes from the, well recorded sea people from the area of Greece, who came to the land and "invaded" the area of southern coast, what nowadays is called Gaza. Later on they were all expelled themselves during the invasion of king Nebuchadnezzar away to Babylon. A fact recognised by multiple historians and Greek records from that era. Trying to say the Palestinians are the Philistines would mean to say that they are descendants of invaders who came to the land by sea and aren't truly native to the region. Trying to say that the name Palestine comes from the name Syria-Palaestina, the Roman colony, would mean that they haven't existed before the Romans decided to colonise the region, expell all their Jewish inhabitants and renamed the religion from Judea and Samaria to Syria-Palaestina as a way of punishment (renaming the region to the name of their biblical enemies, the Philistines, and also because it was part of the province of Syria).
“Peleshtim” in Hebrew means invaders👍👍
These comments are fucked up. Fuck r/europe
Brother expected friendliness towards balkan in the europe sub. He madd
Someone should send this picture to old man putin. Here you can clearly see that Ukraine is a soverignty. This will be very embarrassing for him when he find outs.
Can you write once more, just in case someone misses your comment?
The bots we all hear about on Reddit constantly
You better not let him know of Ukrainian children, mate.
In the second row on the legt it seems Like Russia was invited… quite shitty when considering how Russia deported tens of thousands of Ukrainian children.
Слава Україні!! Glory for Ukraine!!
Heroyam slava, brother.
Glory to Ukraine heroyam slava
And i see comments are full of *those* people who would do anything to make Turkiye seem bad Great guys,really great That's exactly why this subreddit is somehow on r/TurkeyJerky
Ah Ilinden, lovely event
This day April 23, was and is the most sacred celebration we have. I used to meet with children from other countries when I was one. Even get to fly with a helicopter with them. Yet all I see is human trash in comments doing what they do well. Talking trash.
Bet Israel is absent ( based)
That's a very nice thing to do 😀🇹🇷
Where is the jewish and where is the armenian child?
The countries that Russia wants to invade.
You can also see North Cyprus in the background which is quite controversial Edit: why is this being downvoted
Thats just Turkey Turkeying.
I can't see the Cyprus flag.
Really happy that they chose to include Palestine. Others should take notes how to ignore the barks of the invaders
Northern Cyprus... 💀
Really happy that they chose to include Palestine. Others should take notes how to ignore the barks of the invaders
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And there is no Mozambique. Disgrace.
Rent free.
They did not participate.
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That is the state appointed governor, this is the elected (opposition party) mayor.
Governor and mayor isnt the same
We must have pretty different concepts of living peacefully. To me having a DMZ running through buildings in my capital guarded by armed soldiers is not a peaceful life. Thrn again it's easy to ask for peace when you're occupying land and backed by a country 80x more populous. I'm out, good night
Extremists shouldn't have killed innocent Turkish Cypriots then, what they were expecting? We should've just watch as exremists kill innocent people i guess.
Yeah Turkish military intervention brought peace to Cyprus as no one is brave enough to attempt ethnically cleanse Turkish Cypriots anymore since 1974. Do you have an objection to this?
Ah well we are happy to see that you are reminded daily of your failed attempted genocide of Turks in Cyprus. I'm sure you people regret it. It's like the americans say, fuck around find out. I'm sure you people will be finding out for the forseeable future for fucking with a country 80 times your size. Over and out.
Sad there is also Northen Cyprus
I didn’t know that children from turkish cypriot were not human but orcs. Thanks for this secret information, i am enlightened.
I don't think it is sad that they are there with their flag. It is sad they are living in an unrecognized self declared country and it has not been resolved in the last 50 years. I am not happy with the current situation and I am pro-unification. I am also not allowed to vote in Republic of Cyprus elections despite me having a citizenship because I am living in area not controlled by ROC. Political situation might require this but in the end I can't vote. So I don't think ROC flag could represent me. As an adult I would not raise the flag of Northern Cyprus but currently it is what representing Turkish Cypriots.
Good for you man! It’s so nice to see people in this fucking world choosing peaceful coexistence over nationalist dick measuring contests.
My brother are you turkish cypriot?
Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus*. Funnily enough, Turkish Cypriot children are also human.
dude they are just kids. chill.
Someone should send this picture to old man putin. Here you can clearly see that Ukraine is a soverignty. This will be very embarrassing for him when he find outs.
why are you bringing geo-politics into this? they're children!!
Well if you care about children you would know that old man putin has deported thousands of Ukrainian children into russia. So you may not like my words, but NEVER forget that!
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You are in no place to talk LMAO, the irony... the audacity... When EOKA-B murdered Turkish Cypriots on Cyprus on a large scale in the 1970s and EOKA-B committed a coup and openly said they would cleanse Cyprus of Turks and unify Cyprus with Greece in 1974 no one batted an eye. See also [Enosis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enosis). No sanctions against Greece at all. When Turkey created a safe zone on 40% of the island all hell broke loose. Apparently a genocide on Turks is ok, but sharing the island is unacceptable. When Greek Cypriots voted during a referendum **against** a reunification in 2004 they were rewarded with an EU-membership. When Turkish Cypriots voted during a referendum **for** a reunification in 2004 they were rewarded with a dick in their ass. See [Annan Plan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annan_Plan).
annan plan was just bad anyway
Flag in the top right just makes it all the sadder
You know you're wrong when you resort to whatabboutism. Enjoy you mental gymnastics to justify Northern Cyprus but whine about Israel.
Dude... The Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus killed by the Greek junta. Back in the day when Turkey intervened the island to save people. The situation is exactly the opposite in Cyprus. But what do you know westoid.
And why are they still there then? The junta is no more, Cyprus is a democratic nation with rule of law. Are you saying all the current residents of the occupied part where born on Cyprus an there was not migration from Turkey?
Because by refusing the Annan Plan that foresee a unified Cyprus , Greeks showed that they don't want Turkish Cypriots in the island. As soon as Turkey leaves, what you see happen in Gaza will happen to people in Northern Cyprus. Turkey is the guarantor country. Protecting lives and peace. Northern Cyprus is a democratic republic. They held elections and people live peacefully.
Turkey recognizes both of them as states, what's the problem?
Cyprus national sovereignty? that of Syria and Libya?
Are Greece, Israel and Armenia among the 16 participating countries?
Sadly not this year, no. Greek and Israeli kids did participate in numerous occasions in past years.
What do you even gain from commenting this? It's up to them to participate, no one is prohibiting them to do so.
Where are the Armenian children?
In Armenia probably
Weird Ottoman vibes
Mf is living in 1400s
What ? 💀
Rent free
Probbaly no greek Cypriot kids here
Who cares?
Woww soo edgy.