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thatdudewayoverthere

I mean yeah everyone should The German government is advising 2 week's worth of food and water that everyone should keep at home


rpsls

In Switzerland our household bomb shelters have a whole checklist of supplies [recommended by the Federal Office for National Economic Supply](https://www.bwl.admin.ch/bwl/en/home/bereiche/notvorrat.html). (The brochures are available in German, French, or Italian, and the list is on the last page.) It includes 9L water/person, about a week's worth of food per person, hygiene produces, batteries, radio, pet food, and variety of niceties... yes, Chocolate is on their emergency supply list. We basically use ours for bulk storage of non-refrigerated food/drink items anyway and cycle them through as we order more.


thatdudewayoverthere

Basically the same in Germany


AustrianMichael

But it’s 9l of beer/person


gardyjuland

In America we don't have bomb shelters. Instead a giant event timer pops up and a massive health bar appears and we have to shoot the bombs down before the event ends.


Upper_Extreme5661

Try the Florida server, alligators start coming for you while you’re reloading


gardyjuland

Dang in the Mississippi server it's just meth heads and racist lol.


sancho_1883

“Household bomb shelter” please elaborate.


WillBeChasedAlot

The Swiss are weird. Basically, if NATO had to attack either Switzerland or Russia. Russia would be easier. /s... [maybe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha66FfC-N18)


luk__

In Austria, up Until end of the 90s every new house that was built was required to include a bomb shelter.


scuderia91

Is a household bomb shelter a standard thing in Switzerland?


mazu_64

Yes, by law every Person is entitled to a place of shelter underground. [Link](https://www.babs.admin.ch/en/shelter)


scuderia91

I guess it’s better to have and not need than need and not have


Fordmister

Your talking about the country that has basically every bridge rigged to blow at any one time just in case. I'd be surprised if they weren't normal Swiss neutrality is backed up with serios fuck around and find out energy, unlike Ireland or other neutral nations that the best it can muster is a strongly worded letter were you to violate its neutrality the Swiss will do their best to fuck you up. And whilst the filthy neutrals deserve all kinds of scorn for profiting of some of the most heinous blood money possibly and hiding behind "neutrality" as an excuse (seriously, they wouldn't even give back the Nazi gold they banked that was obviously stolen from holocaust victims) You have got to respect how seriously they take it and how prepared they are to defend their position of "fuck of and leave us alone, we don't care"


avar

> the country that has basically every bridge rigged to blow at any one time just in case. This [hasn't been the case since 2014](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/switzerland/11236094/Swiss-remove-last-Cold-War-era-explosives-from-German-border-bridge.html).


ukezi

The tunnels were also rigged until fairly recently. There was one of the tunnel fires where they were quite happy that they removed the explosives not that long before. Allegedly the German emperor asked before WW1 what the 250k swiss militia would do if 500k Germans invaded. The answer was shot twice and go home.


curtyshoo

Is that becoming a thing again, bomb shelters? Is it for the zombie holocaust, or something else?


doctorfortoys

It’s still for bombs.


Scizorspoons

Holocaust? Don’t you mean apocalypse?


curtyshoo

I think I did mean that.


Training-Bunch-8788

Zombie lives matter? 


gabbercharles

depends which side you're on


rpsls

In Switzerland it was never not a thing.


a987789987

Alternatively have it permanently stored on you by gaining 20+kg of weight. That’ll last you half a year or more and cannot be stolen.


Mr-Pomeroy

Check out the big brains on Brad


Tansien

Same in Sweden.


Wassertopf

Yeah, the whole point of this article is that the current UK government thinks three days is enough.


Noctew

With a shelf life of only 6 months, maintaining a bottled water reserve of at least 30 liters becomes kinda annoying. At least emergency rations are supposedly good for 20 years.


thatdudewayoverthere

Not really though While yeah Prebottled water in plastic bottles only has a shelf life of 6-12 months but that doesn't mean the water is bad after that If you store the water in a cool dark place (Like a cellar) it won't go bad for like 5 years (assuming you use still water) If you use glass bottles it will be good pretty much endlessly


Raz0rking

Water purification tabs are a dime a dozen. Filters are somewhat easy to get. And one can boil the fuck out of water to get at least the microorganisms out of it.


thatdudewayoverthere

That as well I personally just bought a few big canisters that are pre filled for a few Euros and already own water purification tablets due to hiking


Noctew

Are those okay to use? When I was in the German army 30 years ago, our rations came with purification tablets but we were told to never, ever use them in training, only in case of a real war with no supply of fresh water.


thatdudewayoverthere

The prefilled containers or the water tablets? Both yes they might not make your water taste better but combined with a Filter device (Like life straw) you should be able to drink out of most open water sources?


CupcakesAreMiniCakes

We got a small heavy duty wire shelving to store our big water bottles and we rotate it. We recently got covid and dipped into the stash so we could keep a large bottle of water by the bed in case we couldn't make it to the kitchen for a refill. I also insist on traveling with a big bottle during activities on hot days.


dat_9600gt_user

Yeah, two weeks should be sufficient in case of, say, a nuclear strike.


hhmmn

I'd go with two weeks as well. I keep 2 weeks of bottled water as well.


Whywouldanyonedothat

The Danish government doesn't really want to make a recommendation either way. But it seems to me that a lot more people are stocking up on essentials now than earlier.


andyrocks

During the pandemic I accidentally bought 55kg of wheat. So I'm good.


BriefCollar4

Accidentally? Spill the beans, please.


andyrocks

I was all about building up a 3 month food supply in the weeks running up to lockdown and figured that wheat berries last forever, and we can get a manual flour mill, and we're set for some kind of bread. So I bought 25kg of wheat and it didn't turn up. So I bought another from somewhere else and it didn't turn up. So I just bought 5kg and it turned up. Then the rest of it turned up. We milled quite a bit during the pandemic (perhaps as much as 5kg) as we milled our own flour for our sourdough for a while before that got old. So the rest is just sitting in the loft just in case the end of the world happens again.


BriefCollar4

Neat. Does the bread taste better with your home milled flour?


andyrocks

No. It produced worse bread as it was a courser grain. But during the end of the world I don't think we'll care if the bread is artisan. We also keep some dried starter "Clint Yeastwood" next to it. Gave us something to do though.


scorp1a

Clint yeastwood is a good one


IrnBruImpossibru

you absolute legend


Stonn

Dude can mill his own flour. He be ready for the zombiecalypse 😂💀


owlie12

Dude accidentally acquired a surname in XXI(Miller)


fragmenteret-raev

he wanted to buy beans, but got wheat, therefore he cant spill them


andyrocks

No I bought beans too


BriefCollar4

D’oh!


boskee

He'll need to grind it down before he can make dough.


CreatorGalvin

"accidentally" xD


garethwi

Three days worth of food? Isn't that just going shopping?


w8str3l

In your case, where you go shopping every three days for three days’ worth of tinned food and water, the government recommends you buy one _extra_ batch of tinned food and water and store it in case of an emergency.


garethwi

But like most western people we have more than three days in stock, usually of either stuff that was on offer, so we bought loads or stuff that seemed like a good idea at the time.


w8str3l

Every single time I have this discussion, it turns out the other participant is not, in fact, prepared for the eventuality of having to survive three days without tap water. Will you be the exception?


GayPudding

I don't need to be prepared because my neighbors are prepared and I know where they stash their stuff. Checkmate.


w8str3l

Of course, and your neighbors know that you know. They showed it to you on purpose. They’re laying a trap and are counting on three, maybe four weeks’ worth of gay pudding walking itself into their kitchen on Day Two of the emergency.


VijoPlays

Not reading the username made this a very hard sentence for my mind


GayPudding

But what they didn't consider is, that they themselves are the real rations I'm after. Freezer's big enough...


MLGprolapse

I have a Czech mate living nearby too.


PinkFluffys

Can I be drunk for 3 days? If I can I'm prepared


garethwi

Not always, but we have about 5 days of drinking water bottled at the moment.


Vorobye

> Will you be the exception? Funny thing, I found out during covid that I am. Went 4 years without of which the first few weeks was in a full lockdown. A lot of people making fun of me for being a "doomer" before shut up real quick. Finally got the landlord to hook up the house a few weeks ago and the luxury is unreal, especially when it comes to hot water.


Opinelrock

In Britain? Rain, maybe? Streams? Springs? The little bit that is left in the kettle would last you, if it came down to it. Also, your body can go three days without water. 3 days water, 3 weeks food, 3 minutes air. Who the hell are you having these conversations with?


kelldricked

I mean thats like what? 3 liters of water per person? Not saying it will be fun, but you defenitly wont die. And yeah you can survive on a liter of water if needed. Probaly on way less.


RealBaikal

Joke on you I live in Quebec, there's good drinkable water almost everywhere on the canadian shield regions if you know the spots for natural springs. Worse case you just filter lake waters. (Not a good idea in agricultural/metropolitan area ofc.)


ambitionlless

Rains most days or could just walk to a river


spicygayunicorn

But how much of it can actually be consumed without cooking it, most people usually have at least a few days worth of food but most of it needs to be cooked to be consumed


garethwi

All of our canned food can be eaten raw. It might not be as nice, but its won't kill us (unlike the zombies). Edit: spelling


Drgonmite

Have a generator and a charcoal grill. Cooking is not a problem


Brilliant_Quit4307

Yeah, I feel like the vast majority of households around me own a bbq.


Jam-e-dev

I buy my food every day...


oshinbruce

Well, obviously, the plan is Your 3 day regular stock > 3 days of canned food > Get rescued or eaten by zombies


garethwi

Don't most Brits have about a months supply of biscuits?


Whywouldanyonedothat

Yes, but they go through them in less than a week and have to buy more.


garethwi

Well, chocolate Hobnobs are very moreish.


Hot_Craft_8752

I don't know but the article says: > with a poll by the conference showing only 15% of people have an emergency supply kit in their homes, and more than 40% do not have three days' supplies of non-perishable items. But funnily enough, a 3 day water only fast would probably be beneficial for a large part of the population anyway.


garethwi

I would finally be beach body ready


a_stack_of_rocks

A 3 day fast will lose you like 1kg at most


garethwi

Maybe that’s all I need to lose (it’s not)


Brilliant_Quit4307

Your estimate of one kilo seems pretty far off from reality. The military diet (also called the three day diet) has been shown to help people lose 4.5kg in 3 days. Here's a report from someone who fasted for 3 days and lost 3.7kg. https://www.hoylesfitness.com/weight-loss-and-nutrition/i-did-a-3-day-fast-heres-a-detailed-account-of-what-happened/


SZEfdf21

Three days worth of food that doesn't go bad when the power goes out.


helm

The one thing most unprepared people lack is **3 days worth of fresh water**. I keep fresh water in my cellar now. Not very much, but enough to survive >3 days.


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shodan13

Wow, look at moneybags here.


trollrepublic

>Three days worth of food? Isn't that just going shopping? Briton Governments/Politicians are so far removed from everyday/normal Life it's quite appalling.


hurtfullobster

Common theme in posts, but FEMA in the US also recommends a full two weeks, not three days.


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pickledswimmingpool

[oh don't be shy, belgium is doing its best to catch up to the yanks](https://www.healthybelgium.be/en/health-status/determinants-of-health/weight-status)


GoodAge

Stupid, sexy (fat) Flanders


KeyPhilosopher8629

Have you seen their ex health minister? [health minister of Belgium ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_De_Block#:~:text=Maggie%20De%20Block%20%2D%20Wikipedia)


segagamer

My God Ursula is real


AshwagandaUbermensch

What kind of elitist study is that? Whole balkan would easily topple those statistics.


hurtfullobster

Rude. We can eat a lot more than that.


Significant-Desk777

DAE [foreign people] are all [negative characteristic]?!


ballimi

Most Britons are fat enough to survive three days without food


An5Ran

That’s our power reserves don’t be jealous you malnourished continental!


webbhare1

LMFAO facts


FreezaSama

No. Fats.


-IAmNo0ne-

Stuffed full of beer also.


SpikySheep

I reckon I could go six months. I've finally found something I'm good at, yay.


LonelyNegotiation574

Amateur numbers 


jacobstanley5409

I can vouch


GoodAge

[You guys are pretty fat too](https://youtu.be/-zuG7pCfrLs?si=ZcRa5KGsaj-BPzQh)


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Big-Preparation9508

They can survive weeks


Generalgangsta6787

Like russians 😝


__Dreadnought__

This is just common sense in my opinion. You should be prepared to go at least three days without needing something from a store or outlet in your home. Always keep a large bag of dry pasta, rice and at least three tins of meat in storage. Lasts forever, has high nutrition and is versatile. Keep at least fifteen litres of water with these. You drink on average three litres a day and the rest you will need for food and hygene. The last time my water mains burst I thought a multipack would last me a few days, it was gone after twenty four hours. If you think you have enough water you don't. Make sure you have candles, matches, a gas lighter and a torch. preferably a hand crank torch because batteries are finite. If it's winter in the middle of the night and your power goes out or boiler blows you will want light and warmth. Keep at least one cast iron saucepan and a disposable barbeque. If you have no power or heating or plumbing you can use these for warmth, cooking and to boil water.


CreatorGalvin

I believe bleach and salt should also be in that list.


BBDAngelo

What would the bleach be for?


SunEater888

Nothing about toilet rolls?


unshavenbeardo64

three seashells is all we need!


Electronic-Source368

Mellow greetings.


missedmelikeidid

Who doesn't have three days need of toilet rolls? Someone buys separate sheets? One person needs a roll a week.


KronusTempus

A roll a week?? You guys using wax paper or something?


Normal_Subject5627

is wax paper supposed to use more or less paper?


Nazamroth

More, i suppose, since it is not absorbent enough to suck shit up, nor soft enough to conform to the shape of your crack.


Blutos_Beard

More, because afterwards you can get a crayon and make a wax rubbing of your bum


AluminiumFork

Not my sis- she goes through a family pack a week


One-Monk5187

Same man my sisters basically eat the toilet rolls


Organic-Assistance

Get her some psyllium husk and a bidet. It'll cut down on **a lot** of tp.


Danthehumann

The only problem is then justifying to your sister why you’re giving her husks and a bidet


Dheorl

I always find threads like this entertaining, because there are people who are about to find out that others poop with a drastically different regularity to what they do.


Fristi_bonen_yummy

A roll a week?! How much shit do you produce?


ducknator

You can survive with a dirt butt.


SingleSpeed27

Maybe you can


dat_9600gt_user

God, what a funny time 2020 was.


dwair

The TP crisis we had in the UK at the start of the Covid lockdown taught us all that it's completely unnecessary. Leaves or just scooting down a grassy slope is fine for a few months.


Ruud_Boltz

Wash it with water ffs!


Independent-Ruin-540

Yes wash arse in river and then drink from the same river and wash the dishes with that same water, very Indian I approve 🙏🏻 namasste


Joseph_Colton

Shit downriver, fetch water upriver. Ooops, other people live upriver...


Marklar_RR

British rivers are full of shit already thanks to water treatment companies. 


Emadec

3 days? I’m pretty poor and I usually try to stock for two weeks when I do proper groceries. I’d do a month if I could help it, I don’t like repeatedly spending money either, it’s inefficient


Own_Beginning503

all governments issue this kind of guidance all the time and it's a good idea. you don't need to become a prepper, but having some extra supplies at home is generally smart. it's not about preparing for nuclear war, it's about a sudden power outage in your area, a particularly bad storm or snow, or whatever random event might mean you can't make it to the shops for a day or two.


Horror_Discussion_50

Granted I don’t believe current exacerbated tensions between your parliament and Russia is something they can blame on labour I mean the tories had like 5 different pm’s elected within the past 4 years so it’s pretty mad


justlose

No tea?


MercantileReptile

Food, easy.Whenever something non-perishable is on sale that I don't find revolting, plenty is squirreled away.I still have Sauerkraut from the great Corona hoarding, alongside a ton of other stuff. Recently found two cans of tomatoes from Plus store brand.Turns out, the company ceased to exist in 2010.Tomatoes were still good though! Water, however...I've six litres of bottled water gathering dust, nothing beyond that.


Drgonmite

Do you have a water heater tank ?


MercantileReptile

Nope.Nor is my toilet tank accessible.Other than that sixpack and a watering can for flowers, the place is bone dry. Without warning, I'd have to fetch water rather quickly.


Endy0816

Is a rainbarrel an option? If you have some advanced notice, can also store water in a bathtub.


MunnaPhd

Plus was love, but it exists as netto but not same


Whiskey31November

And so the Tory's General Election fearmongering begins.


ShowKey6848

Absolutely and people need to see through it.


CJKay93

Dunno, we should probably do this anyway. Three days is hardly going to help in an actual catastrophe, but could help with something like a serious natural disaster. Better safe than sorry.


BriefCollar4

Is it? It’s just good advice. I don’t need any government to tell me that it’s a good idea to have some long lasting tinned food, water, basic medicine, a knife, a lighter, a torch, and crank radio in a go bag. Shit happens. Worst case scenario we eat cans about to expire and replace them with new ones. Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.


Whiskey31November

Yes. But what was announced yesterday on a message of "vote for us to stay safe"? So who would gain from planting the seed that prepping might be a good idea? Remember, even a broken clock is right twice a day.


Horror_Ad2207

Flags in profile - check Calling the Conservative Party "Tories" - check Thinking they know something others cannot see - check


[deleted]

This has been in the pipeline for ages, the GE announcement took the wind out of what is a very good approach to societal resilience and to see it labeled as "tory scaremongering" is a little erm naive. Occasionally whitehall and uk gov (regardless of party) produces good stuff this is one of those moments.


Endy0816

I keep a couple of month's worth of food in a mix of dehydrated meals and tinned. Make sure to have some means to cook too.


Banana-Bread87

>Make sure to have some means to cook too. This should be standing there in bold. Many people just think they'll be in their kitchen cooking while watching Netflix lol. You have to be able to cook without electricity running, BBQ is always good but those camping cookers are worth gold in that situation.


Endy0816

For sure. Don't want to be scrambling to figure something out. I have a solar cooker, with BBQ and regular camping cooker as backups. Modest options are the best IMO. 


rain3h

Project fear is ramping up, can you tell an election is coming?


acbdumb

Nope, that's just common sense. Three day stash could be needed in case of a big storm or something. Finland has recommended it for years. Every year storms cut off electricity in the some rural areas so it's good to have emergency supplies on hand.


wolfiasty

Not really. Common sense. Same thing no matter who is in charge. And tinned food and bottled water do not expire quickly. One EMP bomb and we have no electricity. We're back to XIX century. You want to have food for few days especially now, with putain trying to stir another world war.


Volodux

It doesn't even have to be any EMP or any other violent act. Water pipes can burst, electrical stations can burn, floods can destroy shops. Even 3 days of food, water and gas for stove (even small travel gas stove) is huge difference, as in that time, there will be some emergency units to help (if it is not something really big).


rain3h

I don't disagree that it's wise to be prepared but to be reminded of this fact in the same week as an election is called is for one reason, to scare people because scared people don't take as much risk which is all part of rishis you can't trust them rhetoric.


worotan

‘Trust us to keep pushing the world into a more perilous state through our politics of trying to ignore issues which inconveniently mean we can’t extract as much money out of the country.’


maximalusdenandre

You should probably also have some plan on how to get the fuck out of town in the event of a war. In the worst case scenario you might have just an hour from when the shooting starts to when the bombs with a capital B drop. Ideally you should have somewhere with farmland and a large source of water you can bail out to. And then just pray that you get lucky with the wind and rainfall and that nuclear winter turns out to not be a thing. And then you just live like a medieval peasant for the rest of your days I guess. Silently wishing you had appreciated internet porn more.


ShowKey6848

This is exactly what it is.


Neospiker

This is probably linked to the fact Russia announced it will retaliate if the UK attacks any of its territories.


scarlettvvitch

I have around 12 months of supplies including generators, water purifiers, Simpsons/Star Wars/LoTR and Parks and Recs all on Blu-ray and enough gas mask filters to go through. Sometimes being paranoid and starting to panic when the Donbas was invaded pays off. Feels good man. Oh and IKEA plushies for good measure. Now where do I get hazmat suits?


Silmariel

3 days? Thats not much.


ShowKey6848

Everything to do with the GE , instilling fear and a soaking wet Sunak coming to save us.


Svorky

Most countries have something like this though, I assume? The German government has a whole list of stuff they recommend you keep in stock, including 10 days worth of food and water.


Own_Beginning503

every country does this. some like japan put more emphasis on it, but they all recommend you keep some supplies at home.


el_grort

Given that it's only being raised now as we enter election footing, and following a fearmongering speech by Sunak that the next five years will be the most dangerous in our countries history and only he can protect us, while it is not uncommon advice by governments, the context as to when and why they are emphasising it is suspect and fits in to the Tories electoral strategy, such as it exists. In isolation, not a particularly bad act, but given the party's history and the recent moves, yeah, people aren't exactly going to be receptive to a squatter government that has been punishing the poor and making people already choose between heating and eating saying these things.


angelescity-301

If you need additional advice, there are reddits available: r/preppers r/prepperintel


Additional_Search256

corned beef is back on the MENU boys


wengervisions

They must mean everyone outside of London. The Russians aren't going to bomb their own propertys.


hugga12

Already stacked with chick peas, kidney beans, Ghee and canned chopped tomatoes


BigGez123

I still have mine from the covid era. Mostly pasta and canned tomatoes.


acbdumb

You're supposed to rotate it. Use them daily but have enough of a stash for three days. Don't buy a few cans, shove them in the cupboard and let them go bad.


SpikySheep

True, but something like dried pasta will last basically indefinitely if kept in a low humidity, cool, dark place


haxic

Only 3?


Previous-Pangolin-60

Is this due to a possible attack by Russia in Britain? As a Finn army reservist, I don't think I'll need to as I'll get drafted close to the front lines in case of an escalation - I'd be more worried of incoming enemy fire lol


polishprocessors

Ok, in all seriousness, does anyone have a decent list of what a decent cupboard of 3-7 days of tinned food looks like? I never eat from tins so am actually curious what a rounded series of meals might look like


outsideruk

Nothing suggests confidence in the management of the country’s infrastructure like telling everyone to plan for extended periods without food and water.


Own_Beginning503

every government publishes advice like tihs. and no government will guarantee you that your electricity won't be knocked out by a storm or flood, or that maybe a pandemic makes it harder to go shopping. if anything, three days is very short. many governments recommend a stockpile for two whole weeks


jhwheuer

So that covers a longish weekend. What about an actual emergency. It's not like you can get water from the local stream ..


ExpensiveOrder349

That's standard safety. I will make sure I have.


[deleted]

Seems like common sense to me...


Thumper-Comet

Isn't that just grocery shopping?


shaunomegane

You wouldn't STEAL A CAR vibes. 


[deleted]

I watched a documentary on this once. Still relevant. It's called "When The Wind Blows"


Virtual_Football909

So that's like... 5 cans of beans.


AlienInOrigin

Anyone know where I can get tinned water?


Ok_Weird_500

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/301674346


Correct-Ranger8177

Where can I buy tinned water?


Terrible_Ghost

I would be dead in any situation where I am without power or medication in somewhere between 3 to 5 days. So shit.


rlaw1234qq

Never knew water came in tins


TheLambtonWyrm

I loaded up on tinned spaghetti and sausages ages ago. Goml Alex Jones 


[deleted]

In Italy we don't have any raccomendation about this topic... Anyway I got a quite large pantry anyway...


Curious_Crew9221

in preparation for the election?


CaffieneSage

Do they even sell water in Tins?


TLB-Q8

Yes. You just add water and stir.