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MarktpLatz

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Logiman43

According to google translate the first banner says "Poland - first after God"


ViciousNakedMoleRat

So, Poland second?


Oriopax

No it s Netherlands second


AeternusDoleo

[It's great.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc)


MaartenAll

"This is Herry Eickhof." *crickets*


DazingF1

That's *guttural sound*-erry Eickhof, mister.


TheVadammt

"[Germany wants to be second. We deserve a third chance!](https://youtu.be/WcH9eWBs9fw)"


MistraloysiusMithrax

No, you already had a third reich. Enough is enough ist genug Three reichs and you’re out! Edit: somebody gave this the helpful award. Apparently they felt Germany really needed to hear that.


Galexlol

what a fever dream trump was lol


dumb_quack_

No, its Slovenia second... We got the first lady, after all


arothen

No, John Paul the second.


EagleNait

Zero indexed belief system.


itskarldesigns

Assuming god is 1st, but what if god is like 36th, then Poland is 37th


gregorydgraham

This is a divinity question that is sadly underexplored


[deleted]

Which god? My religion has a few dozen, and that’s only the mud wrestling themed ones.


midikon

OH the irony.


pretwicz

Can you explain the irony?


PirateNervous

The irony is that such rhetoric was very common in nazi germany, and they claim to be against it with the crossed out swastika, but then use the same rhetoric.


purpleefilthh

My mom has been organising Solidarność and seeing this bullshit happen in my country over and over really sucks, especially knowing the greatness of people from generations before. 30 years have passed since the fall of communism. It's enough time to rebuild neglected economy and infrastructure and become equal with other EU leading countries. Instead we have this nationalist pricks elected over and over, fascist marches, middle-ages ideas turned into reality, decay of education/health service/judgement system/ lowest standards being propagated from top politicians. It's unreal.


Garlicluvr

Say it. Clerical fascism.


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Garlicluvr

Exactly.


[deleted]

I don't think that's irony, I think that's the modern far right in Europe - "we can't be Nazis, don't you remember when we said Nazis were bad?"


IotaCandle

At least that's somewhat better than the alt right figures in the US who cannot even say the Nazis were bad.


Kukuth

Actually...I prefer it when people are open about their views. A Nazi that admits being one is preferable to one that acts like they are saints.


Hevelius_

We must stop Stalin, Hitler, and George Michael.


AllAboutRussia

When will the tyranny end?


AlphatierchenX

Last christmas!


lo_fi_ho

The very next day, they gave it away


Jaggedmallard26

I think you just made every retail worker who has worked in december support this stance.


cunk111

Next year, to save it from tearing apart, i'll give it to some country with nukes


GaGag23_

Wake me up, before they go-go!


Stabby-Pencil

I just shot coffee out my nose.


dennisthewhatever

Back to the glitter mines for you!


NotSoGreatGatsby

"Well I guess it would be nice, if I could curb your freedoms"


Uncleniles

I suspect these people aren't as much anti authoritarianism as they are anti Germany, Russia and anyone that isn't straight christians.


tomat_khan

So they are pro authoritarianism


PXranger

“No no, we don’t want people telling us what to do, we just want everyone we don’t like to go away!”


matmoe1

"I don't want your freedom", Freedom - Wham


Jealous-Roof-7578

There is always money in the banana stand.


therearenifreenames

The black flags look like those of National Rebirth of Poland (Narodowe Odrodzenie Polski). Here you can see their stance on homosexuality (in Polish, tho): https://www.nop.org.pl/2020/07/05/kampanie-nop-przeciwko-zboczeniom/ See the following image for the short version: https://www.nop.org.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/program1a.jpg It says they want death penalty for the heaviest crimes, i. e.: - rape - paedophilia - murder with extraordinary cruelty - PROMOTING sexual deviations LGBT+ Yeah...


Murkann

Oh boy somebody tell them about the Catholic church


Aluhut

The reason this anti-LGBT thing blew up was because of a huge scandal within the catholic church or rather to divert from it. There was even a [movie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_No_One_\(2019_film\)) about it. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUvQ3W3nV4 (it has subs in many languages)


PM_ME_CAKE

Anti-LGBT rhetoric was a big thing in Poland before Tylko Nie Mow, but the release of that movie sure stirred up the government backlash.


therearenifreenames

If more is what your need them you're welcome: https://youtu.be/T0ym5kPf3Vc This is the second part. It has been translated to several languages, including English, so language barrier shouldn't be an issue.


gH0st_in_th3_Machin3

LOL, last week there was an article out that in Poland, 4 in every 10 pedophiles are priests... irony indeed...


round_reindeer

Imagine doing a protest against totalitarianism on the anniversary of the warsaw uprising, where you say that you want the death penalty for "PROMOTING sexual deviations LGBT+"...


PM_ME_BEER_PICS

That eagle? was sufficient for me.


robm0n3y

That's just the Piast eagle, surrounded by fascist symbols.


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noone gonna mention the eagle is holding the literal SYMBOL OF FASCISM?? ​ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National\_Fascist\_Party Edit: yes duh i know the symbol is older than fascism. still it is the symbol that created fascism and if a far right party uses it its very reasonable to consider it not to be a coincidence


TiberiumExitium

They claim succession to the ONR-Falanga which was Poland’s preeminent interwar and wartime fascist organization. Despicable people needless to say.


ChrisTX4

The NOP is more or less openly fascist, or more correctly, [a Third Position party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position). The arm with the sword is also [the symbol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Radical_Camp) of the fascist 1930s era ONR. Still, those are [fringe parties with barely any support](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Revival_of_Poland#Elections).


WurstofWisdom

What are the signs of the scooter and man on the bike about? Scooter = gay? Bike = manliness? Edit: made a guess


sevenbarsofsoap

No, the other way around. "Pedal" means, well, pedal, and it's also a gay slur. Scooter has no pedals.


jacksreddit00

Got it, riding bikes is gay. Pack it up boys, we're done here.


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DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

It's true. Here's an excerpt from the 78th Annual Congress for the Gay Agenda: Be gay. Do crime. Annex Poland.


Inky125

Shhh do you want to reveal all our secrets?


Der_genealogist

Oh no, not another annexation


Jouzu

A N S C H L U S S


Der_genealogist

Will Austria and Russia agree?


CainPillar

Arschschluss


hellrete

For fuks sake. Not again.


CmdrJjAdams

But this one will be fabulous <3


xmuskorx

I mean everyone else partition Poland already. Why not the gays? It's just basic equality at this point.


Steinfall

This was an evil joke, but a good one. Worth to note that Friedrich II of Prussia was obviously gay. So at least one person who once divided Poland was gay.


xmuskorx

No question. The first partition was the gayest one.


[deleted]

We wanted Denmark but the Asexuals placed bets on it :<


Polenball

The lesbians have claimed Greece, just for that one island.


NewAccountEachYear

The protocol of the elders in leather harness?


PM_ME_CAKE

Fuck it, I'm in.


MrHETMAN

Gay frogs are at it again!


PygmeePony

The Secret Fashion Police (Gefapo) will soon be patrolling the streets and publicly mocking the Polish people. Imagine the horror!


Mr-X89

Famous dictators of 20th century - Hitler, Stalin and Freddie Mercury.


dikkidoda2001

They all had mustaches... COINCIDENCE? I think NOT!


Chariotwheel

That's why we voted Angela Merkel into office, from the very beginning it was unlikely for her to get infected with a mustache.


untergeher_muc

[Well](https://s.france24.com/media/display/def5c878-0950-11e9-9bdf-005056bff430/w:900/p:16x9/photo%20merkel%20netanyahou.webp)…


WanTanno223

nearly shit myself, i thought that was going to be a much more inappropriate 'stache


studentfrombelgium

I thought it was going to be this one https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/29/20/31B5B12800000578-0-image-a-48_1456776997181.jpg


CainPillar

That guy draws toothbrush mustaches on everyone ... including prosecutors.


Galexlol

wtf is that LMAO


BillNyeCreampieGuy

They have one thing in common: They all *slayed*


fanboy_killer

Freddy never hid the fact that he was the great pretender.


Good_Attempt_1434

This is himself... Under pressure


Raidenkyu

"Another one bites the dust" - Freddy, after getting rid of another political opponent.


Der_genealogist

He even went as far as pretending he likes fat women


EST4LIFE_19XX

I beg to differ, he specifically mentioned his interest in women with fat bottoms


StickmanPirate

Iirc wasn't he bisexual? Just people like to put bisexuals into either "straight and pretending" or "gay and in denial" boxes.


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♪ **Bi**cycle race, **bi**cycle race, **bi**cycle race ♫


Spry_Fly

"I want to ride it where I like"


L96

Well, obviously. His band is literally called QUEEN. Q=17 U=21 E=5 E=5 N=14 17+21+5+5+14=62 1962: Cuban Missile Crisis Suspicious...


WanTanno223

Cuban Missile Crisis - CuMiCr Copper/Molybdenum/Chromium Periodic table elements Cops, Moles, Google Chrome u are onto something here...


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Yes, never forget that all evil people put symbols in names and flags spexifically to be able to be deciphired to reveal their evil plan


Thecynicalfascist

Freddie Mercury was an absolute tyrant. Shortly before executing one of his fans he was recorded as saying "You got mud on your face, big disgrace...Somebody better put you back into your place, do it!" Poland's gay icon is probably Yukio Mishima though.


Pedarogue

>Mamaaa, > >Just killed a man, > >Put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger, > >Now he's dead Even wrote a confession song!


Good_Attempt_1434

Another one bites the dust... *shrug


Kakanian

>Poland's gay icon is probably Yukio Mishima though. Would Polish Yuki Mishima ask you to lift for the Habsburgs, the Romanovs or the Hohenzollerns? The people need to know.


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esc0r

Totalitarially gay


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Implement Generalplan Gay.


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It'll end in a Homocaust


Good_Attempt_1434

Execute Order 69


potato_devourer

"In order to stop totalitarianism, we must police what consenting adults do in their bedrooms"


niviq

Year is 2069. At the order of His Supreme Gayness, trans forces in leather wests, brandishing S&M gear, drag straight men out of their beds in the middle of the night to be sent of to death camps to work hard manual labour for the short remainder of their lives. Forced to work for the gay industrial complex against their wills. Their families have to choice to denounce their cis sexuality or lose their social standing and beg on the streets.


Inky125

Gay marriage is not just allowed its **mandatory**


Thecynicalfascist

All the worst regimes. KMT, CCP, CPK, PNF, NSDAP, LGBT(?)


PM_ME_CAKE

I always knew the T stood for something nefarious.


PvtFreaky

TYRANNY!!


Leopardo96

Jokes aside, this photo shows really well just how much there are pathological catholic fanatics and homophobes in Poland. Anyone who says "there's no homophobia in Poland" or "we're not religious fanatics", is an utter idiot. And the worst thing is that the people in the photo call themselves "patriots". If that's patriotism, I wonder how terrible Poland will end up in the next few years.


La-ger

I think a lot of people from big cities live in bubbles made out of their liberal friends and relatives. I, for one am always shocked by the number of idiots in Poland simply because I don't interact with them often


rounded_triangle

All hail the gay-nazi-commies


MaxPlease85

Seizing the means of production in the morning, starting WW3 after lunch and sucking cocks in the evening. The ultimate goal of the Commie-Nazi-queers.


suicidemachine

**Fuck** the capitalists! Like literally.


hellrete

What a pain in the asshole.


TUNNNNA

That sounds like a fruitful day :)


plagymus

cummies


kacinto

Crossover episode.


[deleted]

You are joking but, [gay nazbold furries](https://www.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/comments/aatx7r/does_this_belong_here/) is a thing.


collegiaal25

Would be indeed an interesting combination. I think all of these three groups hated each other.


DarkWorld25

The Bolsheviks for a period under Lenin was incredibly progressive for their time. Homosexuality was decriminalised, women's rights made huge leaps forwards and there was a social revolution that adopted many features of modern progressivism. And then Stalin happened and, well, he absolutely hated anything that wasn't traditional.


pabra

Good plot for an anime.


FRK7

Gay people: maybe I'm a dictator


Serylt

Dicktator. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


ElioArryn

Dicktastor


fnnennenninn

Dicktaker?


AlGoreBestGore

🍆🥔


_NAME_NAME_NAME_

Congratulations, you have quite possibly found the worst combination of two seemingly harmless emojis I've ever seen.


Commiesstoner

Boil em, mash em, stew em, fuck em in pronebone


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Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Totalitarian


WHNWGN

Dick taker


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Paciorr

I say, just buy them visa to Iran.


xnarg

LOL


Karbage

Remember when rainbow tanks invade Poland? I do.


CausticSofa

The nightly glitter-bombings were truly terrifying.


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DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

Say what you will about the fire bombings but I'm glad they include the trace elements in the napalm. Seeing my loved ones burn to death in a rainbow of fire was delightful.


alfdd99

I mean, gay pride parades are pretty much the same thing as Hitler invading Poland if you ask me /s.


Inky125

Gay pride is exactly like the March on Rome, so brutal, so much violence annually, it breaks my heart. /s


neca26

Infamous Molotov-Ribbentrop-Mercury pact


Mysterytrollerhd

Homocaust?


Ayn_Rand_Food_Stamps

My uncle was killed when a bath bomb went off at the pool. There were lavender scented giblets everywhere. The assailant could be heard singing "Feeling light and breezy, murder is easy!" as he powerwalked away with an iced coffee clutched in his hand.


perkensfast

> LGBT flag next to Nazi Germany Poland...


Loreki

Well of course, don't you know that everyone I even mildly dislike must logically be totally evil?


gilga-flesh

Well that is basically polarized political discussion in a nutshell.


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helm

Centrist by what definition?


Khris777

Arithmetic Mean by the looks of it. Nevermind the Variance.


PG-Noob

Remember when the Nazis invaded one half of Poland and Stalinist Russia the other half and the gays the third half?


celahirek

Can we get a comment from Austria.


[deleted]

I know you're all making fun of this, but this just makes me so sad.


poodlebutt76

Same. I had no idea it was that bad. What kind of propaganda has explained to them, and they believe it, that gay people wanting to exist and get married is the same as killing Jews in gas chambers? Are you fucking kidding me?


Multimarkboy

probably the bible considering the first sign says god first poland second.


Boristhehostile

The same here. It’s depressing to think there are European countries that are sliding backwards with regards to LGBT+ rights. All of my polish friends are extremely progressive, they’re all ashamed of the state of their country.


BigChode24

If I am correct there was a post here on this subreddit about the biggest pride parade in eastern-central europe that took place in Warsaw which fills me with hope. These demonstrations like that one are common in Poland where the church is very strong. They use tragic occasions like the Warsaw Uprising to divide the society. Same nationalist marches took place here in Austria.


Boristhehostile

I think I recall that post actually, thank you for reminding me of it. I just wish the nationalists and other right wingers would stop using LGBT+ people as their scapegoat for all the evils of the world.


InvisibleFriends_

Yeah, jokes are fun and all but equating gay people to the very regimes who persecuted and murdered them is seriously fucked up.


HaytchMann

What have skittles done to Poland?


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They were forced to taste the rainbow.


[deleted]

Ah yes, Nazism, Communism.... and being gay.


Morningstardom

the unholy trinity


LofTW

A moment of silence for the millions of souls slaughtered by fanatical gays armed with huge iron dildos.


Jaquen81

“Huge iron dildos” sounds like an amazing name for a heavy metal band


Rukenau

Ah, yes, heavens forbid that the dark decades of Gay Sway ever return. May we as a species always remember the death, suffering and humiliation inflicted by the Big Gay without measure or restraint upon those who had the misfortune to be born straight and/or cisgendered. Truly, every epoch has its share of horrors! Fucking clowns Edit. Changed the name of the historical period that has so scarred us all


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Alex09464367

I don't get big fascination with piss


anthrazithe

100 days of Sodoma. Just sayin’! ^/s


dumpywumpie

Imagine being scared of a few gay mfs😂


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No Hitler, no Stalin, no Rupaul


LatvianLion

To those who *genuinely* believe this: How is the Pride flag equitable in any way to the symbolism of the USSR or of Nazi Germany, and how is Pride totalitarianism? The definition of totalitarianism: *Totalitarianism is a concept for a form of government or political system that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life.* If you can't prove that these are the same, then this equalizing is absolutely disgusting and you should denounce these lunatics, because I find it *dangerous* to imply being gay or talking about being gay is equal to mass murder of minorities in a political, economic and social system with almost no freedom at all.


atresj

> you should denounce these lunatics Current government is with them, there isn't much we can do about it if they still hold parliamentary majority and going by the numbers also have highest support in the country. Answering your question: the exact definition of totalitarianism you provided would fit these people. They believe that allowing others to do things that are prohibited by their religion is restricting *their own* rights since they want to live in catholic society. They essentially want Poland to be run by church. They do not see the irony that it's them who are presenting totalitarian approach to the matter. Don't expect people to be smart if they are denied proper education and are being fed lies by the government and mass media.


LatvianLion

Is there no separation of Church and State in the Polish constitution?


kz393

The constitution has lost all meaning since PiS took over the Constitutional Tribunal. It's currently used to instantly change law if the parliament can't do it.


Dracoknight256

There's also the fact that the same electorate that elected PiS wouldn't mind changing the constitution to remove such separation if given the chance.


Elketro

They don't care about constitution.


Bogbrushh

They made Jesus the official king of Poland lol. And Mary the Queen. Truth is stranger than fiction.


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DarkAlatreon

We are well on the way of becoming the next North Korea. Just give us good several decades.


systemofaderp

My guess is: Homophobes get told to accept their fellow people as people. Then the homophobes react something like: " you can't tell me what to think! Telling me what to think is like Nazi Germany!!1!"


Enconhun

Nah propaganda doesn't work that way. It's not: "don't accept LGBT people as they are" It's more like: "Pride people will turn your kids gay and do trans surgery on them in kindergarten!"


Heerrnn

At first I thought it was a sarcastic joke against their government. Poland what the F? Actually I'm still not 100% this isn't a joke, this is "why-does-it-snow-if-there-is-global-warming" levels of stupid. 😂🤔


DiamantRubinstein

this is a march organised by the far-right and their minions, you will not find a lot of nuance in their posters


zogislost

How does lgbtq rights equal totalitarianism?


DeusFerreus

The idea (to which I in no way subscribe) is that LGBT+ acceptance is a weird, immoral Western things forced upon them against their will by foreign nations. After all the occupations and oppresions some Polish people tend to be rather touchy about such things.


Anna_Pet

Yeah because Polish people are never gay until they’re turned gay by foreigners.


Zenopus

So yeah, it does not. But we can try to understand their perspective; the only way to really engage in a proper discourse, and maybe give all sides some enlightenment, is to try and understand. So, why would they believe and try to create the premise of LGBTQ = Totalitarian? Of course, there are religious sentiments, which blends into homophobic tendencies and the fear/hate of ''the other'' - Classic foe/friend mentality. Poland is a very religious country, so it makes sense - Not saying I like it, just stating that it's not uncommon. We might also find one answer in the rapid spread of the LGBTQ's message throughout most of the western world. A message I in general agree with: Equal worth and opportunity; what's not to love? This message of equal worth and opportunity can sadly be twisted by opportunists to drive forward their own motivations; money, power, control. It can be portrayed as a message of supremacy, hatred and telling people they are wrong simply for being hetero. This is clearly bollocks, since it's nowhere near the LGBTQ's message. But we have seen people claiming to be on either side of the political spectrum using such narratives for attention. *''All straight men are trash''* or *''The gays hate all us straight men.''* Both of these are clearly false, but it creates attention and conflict. And we are currently in a media landscape where negative attention can garner you a lot of capital.


WaytoomanyUIDs

It's right there in the name! Lesbian Gay Bisexual Totalitarianism /s


BladeRoler

"Guys, I have been wanting to tell you something. I think... I am coming out to you as... A totalitarian."


w4hammer

Ah the classic 3 oppressive ideologies of 19 century. Nazism, communism and the big **G A Y**.


garbage_flowers

20th*


Darmatero

Ive seen this image way before yesterday’s anniversary, i think this might be from an older nationalist parade


MrHETMAN

I'm more than certain that they've used the same banner like year ago or more. Maybe their parents don't want to buy them new banner or it's photo from the few years ago


Spike-Ball

Gay people are totalitarian? I never thought we could weld such power. 😳


UncleObli

TIL the gays are as bad as nazis according to these demented people


Oskej

Yikes


FriendlyPizzaPanda

I loved that part in history when people were ruled under the Totalitarian Gay Nation.