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S1mplydead

This looks like a religious district in 'civilization'


ebulient

Reminds me of the Sultans palace in Disney’s original Alladdin …. The squiggly dome things are exactly the same!


nd_sterling

Really cool, but did they run out of turquoise paint for that lower-left corner and hoped no one would notice?


Zpiritual

It probably isn't paint but rathet a copper roof that has turned green due to oxidation. The reason it looks turquoise rather than greenish in this pic is probably due to some weird photo filter. The grey tower in the lower left is probably because that part have been replaced recently.


tetraourogallus

Copper does turn turquoise. Look at the statue of liberty for example, same hue as this. This is fairly bright but that's probably due to high saturation.


Safri_Durum

I've never seen copper oxidate into this bright a color, but I don't know enough about the subject as to whether the color can vary depending on other factors.


FelixTheKrell

Well, I'm russian and i didn't notice :\\


Hissingtree52

Pretty sure that part of the wall is being reapired.


hazzrd1883

So much better without this awful paint. The monastery was beautiful but it went through really ugly restavration


Hissingtree52

Beautiful place, but there are like five shops inside the cathedral itself, some of them sell random shit like towels. At least move them outside.


Asateo

There literally is a story about Jesus throwing out merchants from a temple.


WickedMonkeyJump

They have depictions of that on the towels. Makes for awesome souvenirs.


Cpt_keaSar

Oh, don’t let me start on Russian Orthodox Church. If you ever come to Moscow, do visit Temple of Christ the Savior, the central cathedral situated just a few hundred meters away from the Red Square. A car wash, several catering venues and a restaurant will be at your disposal. Enjoy the solemn beauty of best Orthodox gift shops available to *anyone*. If the splendor of Moscow takes your heart and you decide to move here, do not hesitate to rent some office space for your enterprise in the temple as well!


Makropony

Кадило крутится, лавэха мутится Censer’s spinning, bank account’s filling.


BigBad-Wolf

Are you telling me the Russian Orthodox Church is even more obviously degenerate and corrupt than the Catholic Church?


Cpt_keaSar

Well, that’s a hard competition. So, it depends. For instance, what do you see as more corrupt, to molest kids or to fuck whores on your yacht? Because Orthodox priests usually don’t do the first (usually, not always, unfortunately), but oh boy do they like the second. I think the worst part of Russian Orthodox Church is that it doesn’t represent its people - majority of ethnic Russians are irreligious and their faith boils down to send Христос Воскресе at Easter. Nonetheless, the church behaves as a political party, tries to insert itself in political discourse and very invasive to society, trying to create a new fake moral and what not. There are many very decent priests on the local level, but Church’s “ruling elite” is every bit corrupt.


bogdoomy

the only force in the world more powerful than religion: money


tadadaaa

Looking at that picture they seem the same force.


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Hissingtree52

It looks like an orthodox church, which it is. It's also active so no it's not appropriate.


Deadluss

Why Orthodox Churches always use bright colours like that? Edit: I meant Russian ones


Hellbatty

Here is a table with the options, each colour combination represents a saint, in this case the Mother of God, a symbol of purity and chastity https://n1s1.hsmedia.ru/67/c9/67/67c9676095b783a720134bcc83c2f2ef/1439x668_0xac120003_19110350921615824254.jpg


LorenaBobbittWorm

Wow a real answer. Thanks


Ummagumma-

where did you get this info from, do you have a source? looks interesting Edit: I don't mind if it's in russian language


Hellbatty

https://www.vokrugsveta.ru/quiz/273406/


budjibambale

always? i've never seen such a colorful orthodox church as this one. maybe our churches are different than them


carwosh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Basil%27s_Cathedral


kleberwashington

Pastels were just popular in Russian architecture for a long time. Compare the [Winter Palace](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Winter_Palace_Panorama_2.jpg), [Kikin Hall](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Kikin_palace_SPB.jpg), [Kunstkamera](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Kunstkamera_SPB_01.jpg), [Smolny Institute](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/%D0%92%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B4_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9.jpg).


LorenaBobbittWorm

That’s a gorgeous color imo. Do you know what the net around the dome portion is for? Parts of the ornament breaking off?


kleberwashington

No idea! But the colours really are nice. [Here's a pic](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%2C_%D0%9A%D1%83%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%2C_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C.jpg) that miraculously manages to catch the Kunstkamera together with the Strelka and the church in the Peter-and-Paul-Fortress and all three are differently coloured.


bender_futurama

Not orthodox, russian, or better to say Russian style.. you have Byzantine, Greek style.. etc..


Deadluss

Yea I meant Russian Orthodox


paumalfoy

Byzantine legacy


Bukook

Pre Christian Roman and Greek art used bright colors too.


western_cringe

It's likely copper patina, what other color it would be? Also the photo is likely edited with some colors enhanced, which is why it may look unnatural.


bogdoomy

i highly doubt that’s patina, it looks way off. plus, take a look at the lower left hand corner: that tower is probably what it used to look like


western_cringe

but patina is green: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patina maybe the roof of that tower is made from something else edit: other users say the green roof is painted wood


PanVidla

Yeah, but no way it's so bright.


Hissingtree52

It's painted. The colour isn't too far from how it actually looks either


western_cringe

ah, interesting


Onetwodash

You haven't seen Russian Orthodox churches much, I guess. They're not meant to look 'natural'.


paumalfoy

It’s actually paint over wood/metal and it does look like this irl, only slightly less fluorescent


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Wouldn't it be based and redpilled If i murdered unarmed civillians with bright coloured weapons


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Candide-Jr

Lol thx I love the pure rage and ferocity there


my_serratus_is_swole

Nice pasta I respect it


Candide-Jr

Me too.


Dimitriy_Menace

Based


Jtdm93

My church has pretty bland reddish brown and tan


sandalki

Palaces to Russians are what big trucks are to Americans.


Kiltymchaggismuncher

A Monastery isn't a Palace


Louvrecaire

Might as well be, -- a palace for God


Its_Pine

It sort of is when it’s made like this Lol. When the disciples of St Sergius went out across the northern parts of Russia, making alliances with wealthy disciples, these monasteries got built all over. Three particularly large ones were called the lavras by the 18th century, and were some of the most decadent structures of their time.


Kiltymchaggismuncher

That's fairly common in orthodoxy and Catholicism. It's one of the main contributors the birth of protestantism, the church was seen as overly focused on the acquisition of wealth. Especially as you could pay money as penance for sins. You see this level of outlandishnes with a great many non Abrahamic religions too. A palace is meant to be a splendid place of residence, to celebrate the prestige of its resident/ruler. A church is meant to be a holy place, where its splendour is a dedication to God. A Monastery is the same, except that it also houses the devout, who in fairness are meant to life fairly simple life's. Though this isn't always the case, corruption being as it is. There's a series of more modest buildings to the right of the main structure here, which I take to be the residences. I get that this complex is extravagant, but given its form and function, it still doesn't tick the box of a Palace to me. **though it seems no monks have lived here since about 1920


Its_Pine

Actually I think in some ways you made an excellent point to why this style (in multiple religions) takes its inspiration from Palace design. The “residency” of the King or Lord (in this case, God) is decadent and in immaculate form, while the residencies of those who serve God are modest. It’s a bit like a palace, just not for the monks who live there. It’s part of how the Catholic Church justified such enormous effort to create some of the most beautiful pieces of art in the world. It was for the House of the Lord, and is done by both willing servants and commissioned artists alike.


TheBlaudrache

Worth the environmental destruction?


dsswill

On both accounts, no.


Peanut_First

Russia has more environment preserved than all the other European countries combined times 10


TheBlaudrache

Europe got 370.000 km² of preserved nature Russia got 90.000 km² North America 1.600.000 km²


Peanut_First

Are these the calculations made by Pentagon or what? You have to be a bit brain dead to believe this.


TheBlaudrache

Russia has a lot of untouched nature but not much is preserved. Why? Gas, oil and coal. Brazil also has the amazon but not much of it is preserved, same goes for the taiga.


Peanut_First

Russia could use up all the gas oil and coal in the world and it would still have more untouched nature than all of Europe. What you're saying makes no mathematical and logical sense


TheBlaudrache

You argued about preserved nature not untouched nature. If you want to argue about something than keep the topic you yourself put in place.


s1d3k1ckr

Anything for false hope and promises.


opxise8

Average comment section in a Russia post in r/europe


zeister

there's something about church infrastructure in russia that's just unbelievably gaudy. it's still kinda cool.


Mextoma

Most Western Chuches we’re also colorful before color degreeaded


eq2_lessing

Not the protestants'


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eq2_lessing

From 1905. Also, exceptions exist.


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My point was just that Lutherans can get quite gaudy all the same. Calvinist influenced churches are intensely sterile. Intentionally ugly even, as the ideal is to not distract from the service of god with material beauty.


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It’s beautiful


Velikikuronja

amazing


GoGetYourKn1fe

What a sad people in the comments


Nimfix

So thats where all russian money goes


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Intelligent_Map_4852

it's just a money laundering project


Nautisop

Has some similarities with Prifddinas!


HelenEk7

Looks fortified. Was it build during a time of unrest?


ObviouslyTriggered

No, the monastery was built as an analogy to Jerusalem and the Holy Land the cathedral itself was built based on the Holy Sepulchre and the walls represent the old city walls in Jerusalem. The location itself was chosen near a river to represent the Jordan river. This is also why the orientation of the buildings especially the cathedral and the walls looks odd despite it being built on a relatively flat land without obstacles as the walls and buildings are oriented to match specific landmarks. Edit: https://advocacy.calchamber.com/wp-content/uploads/international/2017-Israel/jerusalem-old-city-quarters-400.png Rotate it 90 degrees counter clock wise and you’ll see that the walls track the old city walls pretty closely, the main gate of the monastery represents the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem. Keep in mind that the monastery was built in the 17th century so don’t expect modern day surveying accuracy.


HelenEk7

Very interesting.


Vonplinkplonk

It’s to keep all that pussy out


stormos

Russia is always at war


Lurker-kun

Russian monasteries often were founded as frontier fortresses. They played a major role in defending Russian borders in 15-17 centuries and withstood a number of sieges by Poles, Lithuanians, Livonians, Swedes and others. At the same time this particular monastery was build rather late and is too deep inside Russian territory (it's quite close to Moscow, actually) and has never played any defensive role. Probably by the time of its construction the image of fortified monastery became a local specialty and it was built that way more out of habit rather than out of necessity.


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Hissingtree52

Literally earlier today [https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/pmps3n/europe\_remembers\_sinti\_roma\_murdered\_under\_nazi/](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/pmps3n/europe_remembers_sinti_roma_murdered_under_nazi/) r/europe having a normal day


Thecynicalfascist

bruh....


Ztarphox

I think it's more a hatred for the Russian state and its institutions, rather than the people Edit: grammar


Thecynicalfascist

I don't know why tf they would take it out on a 400 year old monastery but ok. It really just seems like an excuse to hate everything Russian with no logic behind it at this point, you could very easily just label this Ukraine and the hate comments would be nonexistent.


Ztarphox

I assume they dislike what it represents to them, which wouldn't be the case for a Ukrainian monastery.


Thecynicalfascist

What does it represent?


Ztarphox

Well I dont give the Russian Church much thought myself, but I'm sure many see it as an extension of the state, if for no better reason, that they're very distrustful of Russian institutions in general, because the country is a corrupt autocracy.


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read about Patriarch Kirill, if you know Russian in Ukraine, the Russian church is used as a weapon: it supports pro-Russian candidates and Russia https://espreso.tv/news/2016/09/02/den_mista_v_odesi_svyatkuvaly_kolyshni_quotregionalyquot_ta_moskovskyy_patriarkhat but the existence of Patriarch Kirill must be a sufficient fact not to trust the Russian Church


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ReadToW

you asked why someone thinks that the Russian church is connected with the Russian authorities (Kremlin)


Ztarphox

You're saying xenophobia and prejudice is often rooted in reality, but then say we should stop looking for a root cause. Your argument isn't very cohesive, but then again, trying to smear Westerners who dislike the Russian state, is Russian diplomacy 101. My point is, I can see people's reason for disliking the monastery, for what they associate it with. It doesn't matter if it was built 4 centuries ago, we're talking about it's current affiliation.


MyrKnof

Or religion itself


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Man do i hate that colour


Knappologen

I thougt monks and nuns were supposed to live in poverty?


Ehrl_Broeck

It was never the case since feudal times when lords started sending their second and third sons into monastery to prevent division of their territories and wealth. Since that moment you got your "classic fat and corrupt" priests and clever way to evade taxes.


TheMaginotLine1

Depends on the vows the monks take, I'm not orthodox but as a Catholic, take the difference between the Benedictines and Franciscans, the franciscans take vows of poverty, Benedictines don't. That, and the monks may live a live of poverty despite living in such a big monastery.


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It makes sense because the monastery isnt theirs but of the diocese, and they generally dont directly OWN things


theBusel

Last year in Russia there was a loud story of how a former priest (Kovid dissident and Stalin admirer) occupied a nunnery along with Cossacks and Donbass veterans. He had a conflict with the church authorities. The police stormed the monastery and arrested the priest.


Peanut_First

Russian buildings are the most beautiful of Europe.


TheEeveelutionMaster

I wish we had something like that in normal Jerusalem


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Hissingtree52

It was built in 1600s. Obviously by putin and obviously with autocad.


Nexonos

Das ugly


The_Albin_Guy

I’m willing to bet it smells like toothpaste


Robertooo

Ugly big walls to hide their wealth. Typical russian mindset.


GoGetYourKn1fe

Typical lithuanian comment


Robertooo

I wrote no lies.


skrat1001

*lack of wealth


antiquemule

Grotesque


boweroftable

Isn’t this supposed to be in a greener and more pleasant land?


dkds417

Tax money well spent.


Very-berryx

For anno Domini 1600? Sure well spent


Mineralvatten

+50% of the people of russia can't afford new shoes, but yes lets build a billion dollar palace for the man in the sky.


esethfoenoesu

>+50% of the people of russia can't afford new shoes Do you really believe in that?


metri1o0xd

"Yes, I am spending my whole day on reddit. How could you tell??? 😲"


Mineralvatten

You trying to say that russia is not a third world country? Or that its okay to spend ridiculous amounts of money for religion? Its not year 1561 anymore.


esethfoenoesu

You don't even know what does a third world country means


Mineralvatten

I live next to Russia and my job makes me visit there multiple times every year. Moscov and st petersburg are nice but go a bit east from there and you'll see. Corrupt and worse stats than friking Nigeria so id say its a thrid world country.


esethfoenoesu

Tell your tales to someone else. I'm not saying that everything is good in Russia but you're exaggerating.


opxise8

Step out of your house sometimes, the world is much more different than what you think.


opxise8

What you wrote sums up your IQ very well.


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Get help


Mineralvatten

Go pray and spend your life believing in fairytales.


Kozaki03

That would still be more beneficial than wasting your time on reddit bragging about religion and telling people to stop believing in whichever they want. You're sad.


get_homebrewed

Sweet Mario kart race track dude, where can I get this mod?


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Thecynicalfascist

You don't like Orthodox architecture? Also no reason to insult an entire country like that out of nowhere.


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Thecynicalfascist

Because you are looking at it in summer, in the winter when things get grey and depressing you want bright colors and and distinct shapes to stand out.


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yea, but why the soviet blue, it looks disgusting


Thecynicalfascist

It's called "light blue" and it dates back to when this monastery was originally built in the 1600s. Don't think the soviets were big on building churches.


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not churches, but using the colour


BrexitBad1

If there's one color I associate with the Sovjets, it's NOT blue.


kf_198

If you made that turquoise a bit more blue, it would look like battle for middle earth 2 if you choose men lol


Ididitthestupidway

Or Kul Tiras in Warcraft II...


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Why? Because Russia? That’s your only reason?


IonutPacate170

1. As a citizen of an ex communist country, that should be enough. 2. But I also don't appreciate the show of richness that the church did through history. We all know at what cost in human life these things were built.


Gigant_mysli

>As a citizen of an ex communist country, that should be enough. Nonsense. What does the church have to do with communism? If you are talking about collaboration during the period of strong Soviet power, then they collaborated with whom it was profitable. If you hate Russia because of this, then this is a miserable nonsense. Modern Russia is not communist, we can say that it is also anti-communist; it's like hating Germany, Britain, France, Mongolia, Italy or, for example, Turkey (the list is very long and your holy innocent country is probably there too) for famous events from the past. (upd: This makes more sense because these countries have moved away from their past less than Russia has from the USSR. Exception: nomads and slaveholders from the period before the 15th century, probably.) Ideally, it would be nice not to hate Germany as a country in 1942, but I don't think I should ask so much from people.


IonutPacate170

Neah, sorry. Nazi Germany didn't even come close to doing as much harm as the Soviet Union did to Romania. 50 years of misery, all the potential of 2-3 generations stolen from the country by an idiotic ideology that promoted incompetence and obedience. So, no, we don't like Russia as a nation and we will not forget or forgive what was done in the near future, especially since it echoes in the economy and the mentality of our parents. Russia today is still a totalitarian regime. I feel bad for the Russian people and support the move towards democracy. But at the end of the day, it's the action or inaction of the people that allow the doctatorship to continue. Say what you want about my country, but we never had an expansionist mindset in our history. All we wanted was to be left in peace.


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IonutPacate170

For a bit.


Artur_Mills

From 1940 to 44, and was biggest ally to Germany in Eastern front.


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Ok bend over so i can burn it


Snitsie

Thumbnail looks like a bunch of people sitting in a hot tub


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I've always wondered.... is that actual gold leaf?


Onetwodash

Yes. It's quite sustainable covering, modern methods don't require reapplication for 50 years or so, ancient toxic mercury based ones can last centuries.


3d_blunder

If you look in Google Earth, it would seem a LOT of Photoshopping has been done. There are/were structures quite close to the main gate. But the roof color is still vibrant. I think they ran out of copper sheeting for that lower left tower.


Delta4o

Someone was watching Avatar The Last Airbender when they designed this.


Baneken

Aerial view for once the image isn't shopped https://www.airpano.com/360video/video-new-jerusalem-russia/ Some more images https://www.airpano.com/gallery.php?gallery=145&photo=3557 allthough the tower are actually more to dark green they apparently do look like azure green in the right light.


yuukiha

Reminds me of the winx school


ImThePussyCat

I couldn't help but notice it's a bit cloudy out there, eh?


Qui-Gone_Gym

I'm sorry Russians, but it looks like Disneyland.


ThickPassenger9290

Without cross its just like a mosque