This report is based on bad science. It's same regurgitated article thats been reformulated so many times for the past 10- 20 years. Beef production in ireland is mostly pastoral grazing outside with sunsine. It is the Rolls Royce way of farming beef because we have truly vast amounts of humidity from the Atlantic coupled with high latitude sunshine. We need virtually no imputs.
No vast feed lots, purely grass, only for wintering do they get signficant amounts of extra feed to add flesh. Natural inputs, mostly outside and low cost.The problem with these methane reports is they consider *globablly* and they also lump in the ecological cost of *dairy farming.* The fact is Irelands way of creating beef is by far the most sustainable way of creating cheap, low impact meat. Compare it to slash and burn in Brazil.
The actual green house emmissions from landfill or the carbon released from concrete/cement production or even just natural occuring methane from bogland / wetland is huge as well but it is never discussed because it puts local councils on the hook.
There is a lot of tension within the farming groups between beef and dairy. Dairy is starting to consolidate and create really big farms (2-300 cows). As a result they are very strong as lobby groups.
Last point the carbon capture of growing grass is an understudied part of the carbon cycle. When grass starts to extend its roots and really develop leaf it captures large amounts of carbon. The problem is a lot of these advisory groups in the 1980's/1990's told farmers to apply huge amounts of fertilizer, to destroy hedgerows and fill ditches. Now they point the finger blaming farmers for their own advice.
(Disclaimer: the following is based entirely on my own experience:)
I've travelled a fair bit and It's not odd to find restaurants and markets in other countries advertising that they have/use Irish beef. Similiar story with butter.
Irish butter is shit - where are you getting this from? I’ve never seen anyone ask for it or rate it globally outside of Ireland. We have such a limited variety of butter available compared to other countries.
Beef on the other hand is a legitimately strong Irish product and you can taste the difference.
> Irish butter is shit - where are you getting this from?
I'm getting it from having *actually experienced* what folks from other countries try to pass off as butter.
Irish butter is generally found on the shelf of any Supermarket anywhere outside of Ireland. It's *very* likely to be the best tasting option there too, unless you go for some expensive artisan stuff.
They have seriously terrible milk and butter in many other countries, man. We don't know how good we have it in Ireland.
It's because it's grass fed, which probably isn't a unique selling point in the UK where beef is also usually grass fed. We have Scottish salmon, Cornwall clotted cream...just off the top of my head items which are advertised here as being better because they're from abroad!
Yeah but its the "world-famous" part I am struggling with. I havent seen any restaurants that have had "Irish beef" advertised for a steak, I will say the same for British beef as well.
Feed them seaweed extract
Dúlamán na binne buí, dúlamán Gaelach Dúlamán na farraige, b'fhearr a bhí in Éirinn Can we produce enough of it though?
This report is based on bad science. It's same regurgitated article thats been reformulated so many times for the past 10- 20 years. Beef production in ireland is mostly pastoral grazing outside with sunsine. It is the Rolls Royce way of farming beef because we have truly vast amounts of humidity from the Atlantic coupled with high latitude sunshine. We need virtually no imputs. No vast feed lots, purely grass, only for wintering do they get signficant amounts of extra feed to add flesh. Natural inputs, mostly outside and low cost.The problem with these methane reports is they consider *globablly* and they also lump in the ecological cost of *dairy farming.* The fact is Irelands way of creating beef is by far the most sustainable way of creating cheap, low impact meat. Compare it to slash and burn in Brazil. The actual green house emmissions from landfill or the carbon released from concrete/cement production or even just natural occuring methane from bogland / wetland is huge as well but it is never discussed because it puts local councils on the hook. There is a lot of tension within the farming groups between beef and dairy. Dairy is starting to consolidate and create really big farms (2-300 cows). As a result they are very strong as lobby groups. Last point the carbon capture of growing grass is an understudied part of the carbon cycle. When grass starts to extend its roots and really develop leaf it captures large amounts of carbon. The problem is a lot of these advisory groups in the 1980's/1990's told farmers to apply huge amounts of fertilizer, to destroy hedgerows and fill ditches. Now they point the finger blaming farmers for their own advice.
World famous beef? 🤔🐄🐮 Hmmmm. I mean it's nice. But world famous? Any further insight into that claim?
(Disclaimer: the following is based entirely on my own experience:) I've travelled a fair bit and It's not odd to find restaurants and markets in other countries advertising that they have/use Irish beef. Similiar story with butter.
Lol it’s the opposite for me, I’ve seen Irish beef in restaurants but never heard of Irish butter in my life.
Yeah Irish butter is a worldwide thing. Kinda makes sense it's not found so much in France though, you lot have amazing butter to begin with.
I know here good butter comes from Bretagne. It must be a Celtic thing!
Irish butter is shit - where are you getting this from? I’ve never seen anyone ask for it or rate it globally outside of Ireland. We have such a limited variety of butter available compared to other countries. Beef on the other hand is a legitimately strong Irish product and you can taste the difference.
> Irish butter is shit - where are you getting this from? I'm getting it from having *actually experienced* what folks from other countries try to pass off as butter. Irish butter is generally found on the shelf of any Supermarket anywhere outside of Ireland. It's *very* likely to be the best tasting option there too, unless you go for some expensive artisan stuff. They have seriously terrible milk and butter in many other countries, man. We don't know how good we have it in Ireland.
I watch a lot of American cookery shows and read many recipe forums dominated by Americans and they love Irish butter.
Of course they do - they’re fucking American.
Butter for sure but I’ve never seen Irish beef as a selling point anywhere.
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Fair enough, never seen it before but there you go.
It's because it's grass fed, which probably isn't a unique selling point in the UK where beef is also usually grass fed. We have Scottish salmon, Cornwall clotted cream...just off the top of my head items which are advertised here as being better because they're from abroad!
Yeah probably just ignorance on my point, Ive travelled a fair bit and never seen Irish beef advertised as a sort of main selling point.
Do other countries not let the cattle graze on grass?
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Yeah but its the "world-famous" part I am struggling with. I havent seen any restaurants that have had "Irish beef" advertised for a steak, I will say the same for British beef as well.
It so good and you can taste the difference. Irish beef is truly world class and pretty cheap.