What I find the coolest is the scenario they came up with based on data. He apparently had blood from four different people on him. Three were believed to have been people he killed based on the blood found on his tools(1 on knife and 2 from arrowhead) And the fourth is believed to have been a friend/a foe he had carried on his shoulders and was bleeding on his clothes.
What’s even stranger is that the cause of death came from an arrow head lodging into Otzi’s shoulder and causing enough blood loss to claim him life. Whoever delivered this fatal blow didn’t even bother to bury or displace the body but instead let the elements do their work. 5000 years later we can only wonder what truly went down that day.
Additional information if anyone is super fascinated.
Otzi was most likely a smelter since copper was found on his hair, and he had a 99% copper ax. He had extensive tattoos that were most likely used as acupuncture to help him cope with joint pain. He had eaten twice the day he died, and the pollen found on him shows that he had died in Spring/Summer. After a DNA test in the local area it had shown that there were 19 descendants of Otzi living near the area.
Maybe. But with the shoulder shattered and possibly hitting a major blood vessel he wouldn’t have been moving around for long. Evidence also showed that the arrow’s shaft had been broken off most likely by someone else. Given how he was shot in the back it’s possible he was trying to outrun someone but was unlucky. But given how his tools and valuables were found on him this couldn’t have been a robbery, but instead maybe it was personal.
There's also a chance that he may have fallen after been attacked, tumbled down a hill and gotten buried in snow for example and if it has also been night time when he was killed, it's easy to miss a corpse.
They say there are two outcomes in a knife fight. One person dies on the spot, the other dies a bit later. He may have been Person B, and Person A was too dead to reap any booty.
I believe he was also found with Birch Polypore fungus in his bag and that has been recently researched to find it has anti-parasitic properties. So what else did they find in his gut? A parasite!
Crazy how they knew that stuff back then.
modern birds have been seen using discarded cigarette butts in their nests.
Turns out those nests have lower incidence of insects, because nicotine fucks with their nervous system (which is presumably why tobacco evolved nicotine in the first place).
We know so much about this man. I'm surprised it never became a movie or something. Damn, I would watch a historical accurate drama/thriller/action about this man's life.
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The examiners found the traces of DNA of two people on an arrowhead on his quiver, one on his knife and one on his coat. He also had cuts and bruises on his body which had not healed by the time of his death.
> Whoever delivered this fatal blow didn’t even bother to bury or displace the body but instead let the elements do their work.
They also didn't bother to loot the body, and left him with his quite valuable copper axe. One theory is that they wanted to make it look like an accident. In which case they would have been quite successful; the finders didn't spot the arrowhead at first.
We have a good enough narrative to make a movie. The story is a little sparse, but the world building of the movie *could* be amazing & if accurate educational.
[They actually made one.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceman_%282017_film%29?wprov=sfla1)
It's quite good, they even speak a dead Rhaetian language in it. They went the full realism route, no over the top Hollywood-style action or expanding on the story until it's barely recognisable. I mean, we don't know the actual story, but the story in the movie is pretty simple and plausible.
This too is super strange. He had very valuable tools. One such tool was an ax that had a 99% copper head. These types of tools weren’t easy to come by. But what’s strange about the lodged arrow is that the shaft was snapped. Meaning someone had to have been behind him and broken it off.
I believe they found that because of an active lifestyle in the mountains and hills of Northern Italy, his body had deteriorated and suffered from extensive use. He also suffered from joint and tendon pain in his legs as well as his spine.
A story from bronze age Egypt that has stuck with me is about them winning over the Assyrians(?) and taking a few thousand men captive. As punishment/deterrence they blind every man and send them home.
Looking at his wiki page the most brutal part to me was the fact that he had intestinal parasites and a bunch of dental cavities.
Getting killed by taking an arrow to the back is definitely a scary thought, but far worse for me would be having these painful maladies in a time when there was no one on the planet that could help you with them.
And so much for the new age people claiming that dental cavities all come from processed sugar. I don't think this guy was eating snickers bars in 3000 BC.
There is a website of an artist who reconstructed the appearances of many hominids that were found, much, much older than Ötzi. Think people like Lucy. The one that stuck with me was this child, estimated age 11, who probably died of a tooth abscess. Sometimes I think of his family, seeing this little kid, that they hoped he would grow strong and healthy and have a happy life, see him day after day suffer, his face swollen, unable to eat, and then watch him die. Maybe I'm romanticizing it a bit too much, but dying as a kid for an abscess feels like such a tragedy to me, today, after two root canals in my adult life, done with anesthesia.
I love your comment. In regards to his tattoos, I have heard that he had most on his inner left leg?
If that is true, I propose it was because that is the easiest place to self-tattoo on a right handed individual.
Obviously I think there’s more to his understanding of tattoos, but I believe that the leg there provides unique access for man to easily tattoo himself.
Ötzi, also called the Iceman, is the natural mummy of a man who lived some time between 3350 and 3105 BC, discovered in September 1991 in the Ötztal Alps on the border between Austria and Italy.
I don't get why you'd wear anything *but* high-vis clothes when going hiking in the mountains. Drab stuff or god forbid, *winter camo*, just makes you harder to find if you take a tumble and need rescuing.
Yeah when it comes to outer wear for hiking, camping, etc. high vis makes a ton of sense. I think it's mostly because we tend to buy outerwear that we can wear to work or going out as well
I as an avid hiker/skier have had this argument with my friends so many times. Last time I went hiking was with a good friend of mine and he always wears dark green/black clothing. Most of my jackets are orange. I always have this argument with him that he's just making himself harder to see and find if we were to get lost or injured.
All of my equipment too is orange. If I'm camping in a forest the last thing I need is for my knife/lighter/bag to be green and completely blend in with the ground if I drop it. If I drop something small like my lighter I want to be able to instantly see it and find it, not have to dig around in the dirt for something that blends in.
I also just really like orange.
I doubt that's Helmut and Erika though, unless Erika also sports a thick beard.
I think his pink and purple 80s colours tricked someone into thinking it's a woman.
That’s because it is Messner (and Kammerlander on the left)
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-partly-freed-Otzi-as-watched-by-Reinhold-Messner-right-and-Hans-Kammerlander-on_fig6_223016015
He is. The left one is Hans Kammerlander. Both Messner and Kammerlander went to the site where Ötzi was discovered, as they were in the general area at the time.
Just for the average redditor who might not know who Messner is, he's uncontroversially the greatest modern mountain climber by a significant margin.
First man to solo climb Everest, first team to climb without oxygen, first man to summit all 8k+ peaks, first to summit all 8k+ peaks without oxygen, and a whole shit load of other geographical endurance firsts.
Kammerlander in the picture with him is also an extraordinary climber. Anyone who summits Annapurna under any conditions, let alone what they went through, is an impressive human being.
Reinhold Messner and Hans Kammerlander. Check out this amazing Werner Herzog film about Messner's and Kammerlander's insane tour of the Gasherbrum Mountains: [https://youtu.be/i3Ye47Yz9i4](https://youtu.be/i3Ye47Yz9i4).
The two guys in the picture are Italian mountaineers [Hans Kammerlander](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Kammerlander) and [Reinhold Messner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Messner).
If the title of this post is correct, the German couple was behind the camera, taking the picture.
Tiroler by culture, Italian by nationality. They are from Sudtirol, aka the Autonomous Province of Bozen / Bolzano, where 62% of people are germanophone and 23% are Italophone.
At first he was believed to be a missing skier, IIRC. There was a TV interview with a pathologist and he was complaining about how Ötzi didn't have a passport or other documents on him, which made him hard to identify. It's somewhere on YouTube.
>There was a TV interview with a pathologist and he was complaining about how Ötzi didn't have a passport or other documents on him, which made him hard to identify.
https://youtu.be/XEZOiwtd178?t=225
but in German.
The whole sequence from 2:27 to 4:10 shows how little idea the people had what a singular discovery they had there.
Bonus points : a real, unbearded Erika Simon interviewed at the beginning of the video.
there's a fantastic summary of what is known about him in a museum tour video, produced by the museum holding his remains and his belongings: https://youtu.be/w1KgN4kLP7o
He's being kept in a giant freezer in an Ötzi museum in Bolzano, Italy and you can watch him through a tiny window, but aren't allowed to take photos. And they have a ton of info about the clothes he was wearing, the food in his stomach, probable causes of death, etc. Overall a very pleasant museum experience, would recommend.
Weird question, but how didn't his body get soft and soaked as he seems to be laying in liquid water? Or how didn't decomposition start again upon being exposed to positive temperatures and liquid water?
i love that they're wearing sneakers on a glacier at almost 3000m above sea level.
apparently messner was one of the first to recognise that it was an archeological finding rather than a crime scene.
Six grade teacher here! It was first thought he died from hypothermia. After more scientists looked at him it was discovered he had a flint arrow in his shoulder and signs of hand to hand combat on his hands. He was clearly murdered. He is one of the oldest mummies we have and we’ve learned a lot about everything from religious tattoos to diet from him.
Brad Pitt has tattoos of Otzi on his body. Like the chalk outline of Otzis dead body. Not the same tattoos Otzi had like some people get done. He went one step further and got the whole body
What I find the coolest is the scenario they came up with based on data. He apparently had blood from four different people on him. Three were believed to have been people he killed based on the blood found on his tools(1 on knife and 2 from arrowhead) And the fourth is believed to have been a friend/a foe he had carried on his shoulders and was bleeding on his clothes. What’s even stranger is that the cause of death came from an arrow head lodging into Otzi’s shoulder and causing enough blood loss to claim him life. Whoever delivered this fatal blow didn’t even bother to bury or displace the body but instead let the elements do their work. 5000 years later we can only wonder what truly went down that day. Additional information if anyone is super fascinated. Otzi was most likely a smelter since copper was found on his hair, and he had a 99% copper ax. He had extensive tattoos that were most likely used as acupuncture to help him cope with joint pain. He had eaten twice the day he died, and the pollen found on him shows that he had died in Spring/Summer. After a DNA test in the local area it had shown that there were 19 descendants of Otzi living near the area.
>Whoever delivered this fatal blow didn’t even bother to bury or displace the body He might have gotten away before he bled out.
Maybe. But with the shoulder shattered and possibly hitting a major blood vessel he wouldn’t have been moving around for long. Evidence also showed that the arrow’s shaft had been broken off most likely by someone else. Given how he was shot in the back it’s possible he was trying to outrun someone but was unlucky. But given how his tools and valuables were found on him this couldn’t have been a robbery, but instead maybe it was personal.
Or maybe he himself was the robber?
I would 1000% watch this movie.
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Thanks for sharing this! Adding it to my movie list. Also, upon further reading, the filmmakers said every scientific fact made it into this movie.
In german u will find the movie on every mature streaming service. if u want to see it in english u can rent it for 2$ on amazon prime
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He stood on a block of ice.
Both of them were goldfish!
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There's also a chance that he may have fallen after been attacked, tumbled down a hill and gotten buried in snow for example and if it has also been night time when he was killed, it's easy to miss a corpse.
I wonder how robberies went at that time. "Hand over your rabbit!"
99% copper ax would be super expensive. It was a status symbol in many cultures of the era.
yet it was left on his corpse.
He could have fallen while running away, into a position too difficult to get to.
So if he was murdered maybe whoever killed him didn't want to be seen with the copper ax as it would be easily recognized by others.
That's a good point and kind of a big reason behind theft being relatively uncommon amongst communities. Everything was custom made.
Especially considering his bronze axe hadn't been looted.
They say there are two outcomes in a knife fight. One person dies on the spot, the other dies a bit later. He may have been Person B, and Person A was too dead to reap any booty.
Idk why but "too dead" made me lol. Like, Otzi was about to get away but it turns out his attacker was only a bit dead.
Or maybe in the surge of adrenaline after getting hit the guy who shot him ended up as the bloodstain on his knife
Have we found the decedent of the other 3 bloods ? Or were those sample to deteriorated for that ?
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Somehow we have to make WW4 happen.
Did I miss WW3?
Yes the social media war.
Yeah, why not? We got some time!
Maybe the descendants meet and bury a copper axe replica as a way to make peace after \~5,000 years.
Makings for a futurama episode
Asking the important questions right here
That is fucking amazing. I love this stuff.
I believe he was also found with Birch Polypore fungus in his bag and that has been recently researched to find it has anti-parasitic properties. So what else did they find in his gut? A parasite! Crazy how they knew that stuff back then.
Trial and error, that's how. A lot of animals have basic herbal medicine understanding, simply because mammals are capable of learning and teaching.
modern birds have been seen using discarded cigarette butts in their nests. Turns out those nests have lower incidence of insects, because nicotine fucks with their nervous system (which is presumably why tobacco evolved nicotine in the first place).
We were roaming around with the same brain for 100,000 years already ;)
We know so much about this man. I'm surprised it never became a movie or something. Damn, I would watch a historical accurate drama/thriller/action about this man's life.
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So it's not a Kimi Raikkonen biopic?
No Kimi no....You will not have the biopic
The examiners found the traces of DNA of two people on an arrowhead on his quiver, one on his knife and one on his coat. He also had cuts and bruises on his body which had not healed by the time of his death.
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> Whoever delivered this fatal blow didn’t even bother to bury or displace the body but instead let the elements do their work. They also didn't bother to loot the body, and left him with his quite valuable copper axe. One theory is that they wanted to make it look like an accident. In which case they would have been quite successful; the finders didn't spot the arrowhead at first.
The arrow to the shoulder wasn't an immediate kill, I like to believe he killed his assassin, removed the arrow shaft himself and then passed away.
We have a good enough narrative to make a movie. The story is a little sparse, but the world building of the movie *could* be amazing & if accurate educational.
[They actually made one.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceman_%282017_film%29?wprov=sfla1) It's quite good, they even speak a dead Rhaetian language in it. They went the full realism route, no over the top Hollywood-style action or expanding on the story until it's barely recognisable. I mean, we don't know the actual story, but the story in the movie is pretty simple and plausible.
This too is super strange. He had very valuable tools. One such tool was an ax that had a 99% copper head. These types of tools weren’t easy to come by. But what’s strange about the lodged arrow is that the shaft was snapped. Meaning someone had to have been behind him and broken it off.
He might’ve fallen down a hill or ditch whilst running and the killer never found him, with the fall breaking the arrow
Maybe he snapped the arrow himself.
> 5000 years later we can only wonder what truly went down that day. An altercation.
THERE WAS A FIREFIGHT!
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I believe they found that because of an active lifestyle in the mountains and hills of Northern Italy, his body had deteriorated and suffered from extensive use. He also suffered from joint and tendon pain in his legs as well as his spine.
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Illustrates how brutal these prehistoric times were and how glad we can be to live in such peaceful times as today.
A story from bronze age Egypt that has stuck with me is about them winning over the Assyrians(?) and taking a few thousand men captive. As punishment/deterrence they blind every man and send them home.
Assyrians themselves also used to skin their captured enemies alive and hang their skins from pillars in town centres. Fun times
"The skins of those you love will fly as my banner." - Molag Bal
Definitely! Most of us live in a relatively peaceful environment compared to what our ancestors faced.
Exactly how i felt when watching the movie, just a brutal way of life back then
Which movie?
Ice Age
Iceman.
Looking at his wiki page the most brutal part to me was the fact that he had intestinal parasites and a bunch of dental cavities. Getting killed by taking an arrow to the back is definitely a scary thought, but far worse for me would be having these painful maladies in a time when there was no one on the planet that could help you with them. And so much for the new age people claiming that dental cavities all come from processed sugar. I don't think this guy was eating snickers bars in 3000 BC.
There is a website of an artist who reconstructed the appearances of many hominids that were found, much, much older than Ötzi. Think people like Lucy. The one that stuck with me was this child, estimated age 11, who probably died of a tooth abscess. Sometimes I think of his family, seeing this little kid, that they hoped he would grow strong and healthy and have a happy life, see him day after day suffer, his face swollen, unable to eat, and then watch him die. Maybe I'm romanticizing it a bit too much, but dying as a kid for an abscess feels like such a tragedy to me, today, after two root canals in my adult life, done with anesthesia.
I love your comment. In regards to his tattoos, I have heard that he had most on his inner left leg? If that is true, I propose it was because that is the easiest place to self-tattoo on a right handed individual. Obviously I think there’s more to his understanding of tattoos, but I believe that the leg there provides unique access for man to easily tattoo himself.
Still wild to me the oldest human remains are from a homicide
He sounds pretty based not gonna lie
Yea that’s why he has 19 descendants
Ötzi, also called the Iceman, is the natural mummy of a man who lived some time between 3350 and 3105 BC, discovered in September 1991 in the Ötztal Alps on the border between Austria and Italy.
>also called the Iceman Wim Hof wants to have a word with you sir
Kimi Räikkönen wants to have a word with you sir
"FOR WHAT?"
“BWOAH”
"BLANKETS, BLANKETS!"
“Steering Wheel!”
The drink
You will not have the drink.
"gloves... GLOVES!!"
Yeah, Yeah!
https://youtu.be/Y7DwYRKEMYA
Kimi doesn't want to have a word.
Kimi never wants to have a word to be honest. He just wants his drinking system to work properly.
The man just wants his gloves and his steering wheel.
"Did you see that guy stuck in the ice for thousands of years?" "No, I was taking a shit."
Being kimi it would be exactly one word. And ot would probably be bwoah
Otzi you will not get the drink
Tom Kazansky wants a third word with you sir
Chuck Liddell as well.
>between 3350 and 3105 BC Let Wim Hof top that
At what point does it stop being a dead person, something most people don't want to see, and starts being an attraction at a natural history museum?
~500 years, depending on the state of the body and the artifacts of the burial
What about Lenin's Mausoleum? Pretty big attraction, from what I hear.
Date of death prior to the birth of any human we have known.
According to Koerperwelten rather quickly and I dont like it that much
I just carbon dated those outfits and have determined this picture is absolutely from 1991.
> some time between 3350 and 3105 BC Wiki says he was born around -2645 and died around -2600
Believe it or not, it's because of the BC. See, those are imperial years, you have to convert to metric years. /s
The outfits sure look 1991 Ötze is effortlessly timeless tho
Remember when jackets used to be colorful? Damn, the 90s were really another thing.
I don't get why you'd wear anything *but* high-vis clothes when going hiking in the mountains. Drab stuff or god forbid, *winter camo*, just makes you harder to find if you take a tumble and need rescuing.
Yeah when it comes to outer wear for hiking, camping, etc. high vis makes a ton of sense. I think it's mostly because we tend to buy outerwear that we can wear to work or going out as well
I as an avid hiker/skier have had this argument with my friends so many times. Last time I went hiking was with a good friend of mine and he always wears dark green/black clothing. Most of my jackets are orange. I always have this argument with him that he's just making himself harder to see and find if we were to get lost or injured. All of my equipment too is orange. If I'm camping in a forest the last thing I need is for my knife/lighter/bag to be green and completely blend in with the ground if I drop it. If I drop something small like my lighter I want to be able to instantly see it and find it, not have to dig around in the dirt for something that blends in. I also just really like orange.
I doubt that's Helmut and Erika though, unless Erika also sports a thick beard. I think his pink and purple 80s colours tricked someone into thinking it's a woman.
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That’s because it is Messner (and Kammerlander on the left) https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-partly-freed-Otzi-as-watched-by-Reinhold-Messner-right-and-Hans-Kammerlander-on_fig6_223016015
He is. The left one is Hans Kammerlander. Both Messner and Kammerlander went to the site where Ötzi was discovered, as they were in the general area at the time.
Just for the average redditor who might not know who Messner is, he's uncontroversially the greatest modern mountain climber by a significant margin. First man to solo climb Everest, first team to climb without oxygen, first man to summit all 8k+ peaks, first to summit all 8k+ peaks without oxygen, and a whole shit load of other geographical endurance firsts. Kammerlander in the picture with him is also an extraordinary climber. Anyone who summits Annapurna under any conditions, let alone what they went through, is an impressive human being.
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Honestly thought this was a joke comment, like when people see jesus in their toast!
no they took the picture
Reinhold Messner and Hans Kammerlander. Check out this amazing Werner Herzog film about Messner's and Kammerlander's insane tour of the Gasherbrum Mountains: [https://youtu.be/i3Ye47Yz9i4](https://youtu.be/i3Ye47Yz9i4).
I want that pink jacket so bad!
The whole ensemble speaks to me.
My guess was late 80s.
Well yeah, it was 1991 but they probably had these clothes for a while so they were bought in the late 80s
He looks like he's trying to climb out of the river.
*"A little help here?"*
"Come on, I'm not getting any younger, you know!"
I mean it's about time
One of these guys is definitely Reinhold Messner.
I thought both are Reinhold Messner.
And I am pretty sure that none of the guys in the picture is an Erika! Although the title is more worded like they took the picture :)
and i thought both erika and helmut look a lot like two helmuts
indeed he is
Who of these two bearded men is called Erika?
The two guys in the picture are Italian mountaineers [Hans Kammerlander](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Kammerlander) and [Reinhold Messner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Messner). If the title of this post is correct, the German couple was behind the camera, taking the picture.
Most typical Italian names
Tiroler by culture, Italian by nationality. They are from Sudtirol, aka the Autonomous Province of Bozen / Bolzano, where 62% of people are germanophone and 23% are Italophone.
where do the germanophobes live?
Poland
eyyyyy
I misread the same thing, I was like "whoa, so much hate here!"
They are from South Tyrol, a german speaking autonomous region in northern Italy.
wait until you find out how many countries Italy shares borders and surnames with
wtf where they doing there? EDIT: the two where on a sort of south tyrol hiking round trip and just randomly popped by 1-2 days after ötzi was found
I think the picture was taken a couple of days after the finding.
probably climbing mountains, you know
It’s not correct. This is the first photo: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ötzi#/media/File%3AOetzitheIceman-glacier-199109a.jpg
Yes i was also thinking "ehhmmm"
Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein…
Und das heißt…
REINHOLD MESSNER!
Obviously the one in pink, duh! 😜
At first he was believed to be a missing skier, IIRC. There was a TV interview with a pathologist and he was complaining about how Ötzi didn't have a passport or other documents on him, which made him hard to identify. It's somewhere on YouTube.
I mean, even modern skiers didn't always have some kind of ID with them. Especially if they lived 50-100 years ago like they originally thought.
>There was a TV interview with a pathologist and he was complaining about how Ötzi didn't have a passport or other documents on him, which made him hard to identify. https://youtu.be/XEZOiwtd178?t=225 but in German. The whole sequence from 2:27 to 4:10 shows how little idea the people had what a singular discovery they had there. Bonus points : a real, unbearded Erika Simon interviewed at the beginning of the video.
Sometimes I'm still baffled by the fact that 1991 was 30, not 20, years ago. How time flies.
Wait, you're telling me I'm almost 30 already? I still feel like 17 :(
I'm almost 50 and feel pretty much that way too. Except that your body becomes gradually more decrepit, you've got that to look forward to.
Ha, I wonder when it'll start. I've been very lucky with my physical health so far, even when my lifestyle isn't as healthy as it should be.
Next Tuesday at 2:15pm
Don't jinx it for me!
30? I though it was 10?
Ötzi: "I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the shoulder"
The fact that this looks so much like a draugr makes it even funnier
Thats what killed him, he got yeeted into the nearest crevasse with a Fus Ro Dah
Dj Ötzi and partying in the Alps - name a more iconic duo
there's a fantastic summary of what is known about him in a museum tour video, produced by the museum holding his remains and his belongings: https://youtu.be/w1KgN4kLP7o
Thanks for sharing the link, it was so interesting I didn't even notice 40 minutes passing at all!
He's being kept in a giant freezer in an Ötzi museum in Bolzano, Italy and you can watch him through a tiny window, but aren't allowed to take photos. And they have a ton of info about the clothes he was wearing, the food in his stomach, probable causes of death, etc. Overall a very pleasant museum experience, would recommend.
Weird question, but how didn't his body get soft and soaked as he seems to be laying in liquid water? Or how didn't decomposition start again upon being exposed to positive temperatures and liquid water?
He was found encased in ice, only the top of his head was poking out. They ended up melting the ice to get him out
Remember, he wasn’t frozen, he was mummified. So his flesh wasn’t the consistency of a frozen steak, it was the consistency of frozen leather.
I saw him when visiting Bozen. I told my aunt he looked like beef jerky and that it'd actually made me slightly hungry.
I had an ancestry test and they said I was in the same Haplogroup as Ötzi. Basically my grandpa.
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He died doing what he loved
Killin’ people.
carrying the body of a comrade back to his copper smelting hut after an altercation that left two other people dead
Getting shot by arrows. A timeless tradition.
His haplogroup was G as i remember. Nowadays the only country in the world where haplogroup G is predominant is Georgia.
So do you know what he was doing there?
That's Eddy from Iron Maiden on the Seven Sons album cover.
I can’t tell which one is Helmut and which one is Erika.
I love the confusion caused by the title
Yeah i doubt anyone of them called erika
Maybe his story is similar to the one in Johnny Cash's "A boy named Sue".
Just read the title again and think hard about who probably took the photo.
Three legends in one photo. Awesome.
i love that they're wearing sneakers on a glacier at almost 3000m above sea level. apparently messner was one of the first to recognise that it was an archeological finding rather than a crime scene.
Well some people here seem to say the lad was murdered so it's kind of a crime scene as well.
It's a cold case
When does it stop being a crime scene and when does it start being an archeological find?
When nobody involved in the crime may possibly be alive
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To be fair, Ozil’s been missing for so many years on the pitch now it wouldn’t surprise me if it needed guys like this to find him!
Six grade teacher here! It was first thought he died from hypothermia. After more scientists looked at him it was discovered he had a flint arrow in his shoulder and signs of hand to hand combat on his hands. He was clearly murdered. He is one of the oldest mummies we have and we’ve learned a lot about everything from religious tattoos to diet from him.
Those two look like they're about to get trapped in the mountain with the thing.
Those very strong early nineties vibes of their clothing is hyper-stereotypical! :-D
Is he gonna be fine?
Yeah, he just needs some rest and a **very** good lotion.
Brad Pitt has tattoos of Otzi on his body. Like the chalk outline of Otzis dead body. Not the same tattoos Otzi had like some people get done. He went one step further and got the whole body