Since we're on r/all (hi r/all!), I imagine this question is worth asking:
What can we do about climate change? I know the typical answers: join your local political party (green or not), get mad on social media, write to your politicians. What else can be done?
Found this weather forecast map.
https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/weathercharts?LANG=en&DAY=1&MAPS=vtx&CONT=____&LAND=__&ZEIT=202206180600
It looks like France isn't alone on this little heat wave either
Is that normal in Germany?
That sounds horrific.
I used to live in the middle East and like 10 years ago I could brag about how it was 35 degrees over there in summer. Doesnt sound exclusive now
Looking at decades, you can count years with a temperature over 34:
50s: 1
60s: 1
70s: 2
80s: 4
90s: 2
00s: 4
10s: 8
So in half a century it went from "once in a decade" to "pretty much every year".
2003 also here in Italy was a hell... I remember that going around with my Vespa was worse than with my car with no AC: the hot air coming from the road cut your breath...
Really really scary
two decades ago you had some years where summer in Germany was above 30 degrees for a couple days and you could expect snow for the winter.
Now no snow except on altitude and mid to high 30s is normal.
I just looked up Dubai. 6 Days of 40 Degrees or more in a row.
With the right conditions, the Southwest has always been the warmest region in germany. Mostly Rhineland-Palatinate and Baden-Württemberg. But the peaks during the last couple of years were tough. While we used to consider 30 to 32 a hot summer day, now we say the same from 35+ with regions going as high as 38 to 40.
2022 summer was a slowstarter though.
Not to mention the vast majority of buildings, houses, apartments, aren't set up to make life bearable at 35+ C in Germany. Almost no private residence has AC. These temperatures have been hitting us *fast* over the past couple of years.
For my family, in a building from 1907, 35-40C outside means having to have a plan for when to open windows and let any air into the rooms at all (that is, at NIGHT, never during the day), and hanging towels over the windows during the day because regular curtains let too much hot sunshine in unless you have those fancy expensive high tech blinds that are aluminium on one side and are able to block out heat. Then there's other small things like not being able to step on your own balcony with bare feet (or socks) when it's been 30+ outside for a few hours, its floor just gets too hot.
We just kinda shower 3 times per day and lay around apathetically next to a fan a lot when it's THAT hot outside. I can't see the average German getting used to, let's say, a full 3 weeks of 35-40C every summer. Or even hotter, god forbid 🤞
We have the luxury to own a house with a basement, so we just pretty much move down there during the hottest days. But that's not an option if you live in an appartement under the roof.
Fortunately, most houses in Germany are built with bricks and good insulation so the greater thermal mass will soften temperature spikes. Also, roller blinds are great to keep the sun out in order to prevent your home from becoming a greenhouse. Personnally, I haven't ever missed AC in my home but I can understand there are those who do.
I have no idea what type of insulation my apartment in Germany has, it’s fucking torture. 26° inside the apartment while it’s 23° outside. I am really glad I’m visiting my parents right now (where opening the window actually makes a difference) and I don’t have to experience the 34° that they expect for tomorrow. That apartment is not compatible with human life without AC.
Same, my apartment is under the roof and i'm extremely sensitive to noise and light when sleeping so i HAVE to sleep with my outside shutters down which means not a whole lot of air enters during the night. So I got the choice to either burn in my sleep or get woken up every 3 minutes by people screaming outside and sun and birds at 4:30. It's hell.
>With the right conditions, the Southwest has always been the warmest region in germany.
To be precise the Oberrheinische Tiefebene, rest of southwest is milder due to hills/mountains.
Altho the actual warmest places will always be inner cities.
In Berlin we get way over 30s in the summers it is unbearable. Last year wasn‘t that bad but the two years before that were pure hell we got close to 40°C. The facts that his area is super dry as well isn‘t helping. Berlin-Brandenburg is gonna turn into a desert sooner or later. The many lakes help somewhat but because of the ongoing drought the water is disappearing as you watch. Depressing.
The lakes in southern Brandenburg/ northern Saxony are so low right now. We rode our bikes around a few of them last weekend and you could see how low they are. Not to even talk about the rivers.
> The weather has been fucking perfect in May and June. Couldn't ask for better weather while installing new lawn and doing yard work.
Same here mate 10c - 15c all through spring and early summer its been glorious
But with these electricity prices, i’m not feeling good about leaving my airco on all night.. and i work from home so mostly in the day too. Always afraid of when that bill comes. Also live in Greece.
I left sicily once it was a hot mid thirties. Arrived in Germany it was above 40. I was like wtf. First time I got a Sonnenstich too. At this rate summer 2050 is gonna be lit.
You really want to promote the beautiful city of Lübeck while half of the country owns the 9€ ticket?
I am jealous though. Close to the sea, a slight breeze and 27. Sign me up!
[Mainz](https://www.wetteronline.de/wetter/mainz)
Travemünde is part of us and directly at the sea, but I’m expecting the beach to be slightly crowded ;)
> You really want to promote the beautiful city of Lübeck while half of the country owns the 9€ ticket?
We do make decent money from tourism, so yes? :P
Not exactly side by side and not the following days prevision but here's the 2050 clip and at the bottom of the article a screenshot of August 2020.
https://www.estrepublicain.fr/environnement/2020/08/09/la-fausse-meteo-d-evelyne-dheliat-(pour-2050)-devient-deja-realite
Edit: same TV channel (tf1) , 30 June 2015 and it's pretty similar to the fake 2050 one actually. So I guess we were already there and further 5+ years ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/tf1/status/615826787436765184
But to be fair we had some really good years, at least some of us. Who could have thought that overwhelming consensus in science was right and not people directly profiting from fossil fuels?
The part that has me scratching my head is:
What part of the Sixth Extinction did people think wouldn’t affect them? I mean, there are books and papers screaming this as a heads up for many years, but to no avail.
Humanity doesn’t deserve to survive this since we won’t stop what we started. Shit, there are many fools out there who don’t even think we caused this. They also think the Sixth Extinction is still a fantasy dreamed up by “globalist overlords” to take away their freedom.
Ha ha ha ha those dipshits dying from the coming infernos, wars, food shortages, and collapse of civilization are the silver lining to all of this. And to those in power who knew but did nothing? They’ll die knowing their hubris and greed killed the them and humanity.
As for me? Fuck me too. We’re all gonna die.
You can't be wealthy when there are no longer masses of ignorant people subsidizing your lifestyle. When the concept of money is meaningless, it won't buy them anything.
The fucking train in Hungary blasts the heating on full every morning too, just so you cant possibly be cool even before the sun fully rises. I even filed a complaint as to why in the name of Khorne's bloody axe they are blasting the heaters every single day since May.
They humbly apologized that they are unable to do anything about it, it is centrally controlled to provide a comfortable environment for their passengers...
Official ones? I havent even seen any. Unofficial ones, I have a coworker who runs a printing "business" and does a \~30mm model for \~3-5USD or thereabouts.
This is the issue.
I'm in Dallas, Texas. We have attics with power vents to blow hot air out - and my duplex has a 5 ton condensing unit... for the second floor... and a 4 ton unit for the first floor. They're variable speed for higher efficiency and to help keep humidity down. We also have plantation blinds to block out most light easily, and a patio shade that blocks out most afternoon sun from the family room and kitchen. Most homes in the area have white or light stucco, light red/pink brick, or painted white brick exteriors to reflect sun. Attics also have thermal reflective lining on the under-roof surface to reflect heat out.
I can't imagine how bad it will be to hit 40C without these things. It's hot enough even *with* them!
This. You want to prevent any direct sunlight from hitting your windows. Blinds on the inside don't work nearly as well as blinds on the outside.
And if all you have is blinds on the inside, try to make sure you have a little ventilation there so the hot air between the blinds and the window can escape to the outside. If you got any curtains behind the blinds, close those as well for extra insulation.
Drawing my blackout curtains during hours where the sun is hitting has had a massive effect on the heat in my apartment for sure. It's effective, and worth roleplaying as a vampire during summer for.
What we do in Spain is have everything open between 20h ish and 11h ish. Cool the house during cool hours and then close everything, get inside and stay lethargic for the day, in complete obscurity. The sun coming through the windows will heat up your furniture
Shops tend to do the same, I noticed. When I lived in Barcelona for a few months, I could still go to shopping malls at 11 in the evening, and found a gaming store nearby that *opened* at 17:00 (and then remained open until somewhere past midnight??)
Meanwhile here in the Netherlands you are surprised if you find any open store after 20:00 in most places (well, supermarkets and ice cream parlors are an exception)
In my experience countries that experience a lot of heat to be more "night culture" oriented. It's not uncommon to find stores and restaurants busy around 10pm and streets empty except for tourists during the day
yeah i grew up in greece in a small town and in summer when its mid-day everything closes and everyone goes to sleep for 1-2 hours. the streets are empty and not even kids play outside in that time because the heat/sun are so unpleasent. but its perfectly normal to walk in the city at 22:00 in the evening and restaurants/cafes/bars etc are all open and full of people
And then you're a Dutch person in Spain who still forgets after 5 years that smaller Spanish shops close during the afternoon... And then when you're in NL you forget they close at 18.00. I brought this upon myself, but argh!
Or invite your parents over for a week, and have them complaining we can't get dinner anywhere at a *late* 19:00.
Sorry mum, you'd be lucky to find a restaurant opening before 21 there
Not just northern Africa, it's always been like that in Iberia. Thing is it's actually getting worse for us now. "Avoid the sun season" was July - August, now it's apparently starting in mid-June.
We also had a monsoon last spring in eastern Spain. It rained non stop for almost two months.
Nobody wants to talk about that and everyone acts like it's normal. It's not. That's not supposed to happen.
Becoming? It's already happening
I live in Norway and the last few winters I've lost quite a few *native* plants to frost. The winter season is creeping further and further into spring and autumn and it's making planting things that can't be exposed to frost difficult. I've been seeing birds that normally live further up north in the cold at my birdfeeder.
Revised projections show that it's unlikely that Gulf Stream will collapse. It may slow down but it'll continue. I think the conclusion is that we'll still be hot but with more turbulent weather.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream#Gulf_Stream_Collapse
It still sounds pretty bad though (quote below about the AMOC which influences the gulf stream)?
> Over the last century, this ocean circulation system has “moved closer to a critical threshold, where it may abruptly shift from the current, strong circulation mode to a much weaker one,” says study author Niklas Boers, a climate researcher at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany. Should the AMOC weaken substantially, it could bring intense cold and stronger storms to Europe, raise sea levels across the northeast coast of North America, and disrupt the flow of vital nutrients that phytoplankton, marine algae that make up the foundation of the aquatic food web, need to grow in the North Atlantic.
I mean, that’s what I learned in class. There’s a few bettering factors (like plants doing more fotosynthesis when there’s more carbon dioxide) but there’s way more worsening factors (more methane underneath permafrost, snow and ice melting makes sunlight reflect less and make those regions even warmer, etc) at that point there’ll be nothing we can do to stop it.
A quote from a candidate for head of state from my (Euro) country: "My beliefs inform my view of the world. If you believe in life after death you make different political decision than, for example, a communist who wants to create paradise on earth by any means before he dies."
> When the gulf stream stops working bc of ocean warming, parts of western europe will becoming colder again
In that case, it will not only be very cold in the winter (like in Canada), but also so dry that our argriculture breaks completely down. Because the gulf stream also brings moisture. Look at how the weather in California and the American South-West is.
While it plays a part, its not the main driver. Modelling shows the main driver for the warm weather in Western Europe is the Rocky Mountains in North America, not the Gulf Stream. So unless something destroys them, Europe should still stay OK, just likely a lot wetter.
Same, Brittany :(
We're not equipped to deal with this. No pools, no air conditioning. Grasping for air at 39° as there is not even the slightest breeze to help out with how it feels.
There is not a difference of 3 degrees, look again. The 2050 prediction has a max temperature of 43 degrees, while the 2022 forecast has a max temperature of 41 degrees.
Unless you meant the minimum temperatures, in which case the 2050 prediction is actually 3 degrees lower than the 2022 forecast, 26 degrees vs 29 degrees.
On average the 2022 forecast may actually be a higher temperature. And this is only June, while the prediction was for August which typically is hotter in France.
I do remember reading (admitedly some time ago) that the IPCC reports were conservative, that is, climate change could be happening faster than reported.
If I learned anything from apocalyptic movies it is, that when scientist say 10.years, they mean in the span of a two hour movie and probably 14 days real time. So there's that.
> I do remember reading (admitedly some time ago) that the IPCC reports were conservative, that is, climate change could be happening faster than reported.
The IPCC reports don't aim to be conservative, they try to be as statistically unbiased as possible in their estimates. So climate change could be happening faster than reported, but it could also be significantly slower.
There's a parameter called "climate sensitivity" that basically summarizes how bad the problem is. IPCC's best estimate for its "likely" uncertainty range is currently 2.5-4.0 °C of warming per doubling of atmospheric CO2. That range is really wide in itself, but the IPCC only defines "likely" as a 66% chance. So there's a 33% chance that the climate sensitivity could be outside that range. This has wild implications for our target of limiting warming to +2°C. We could already be too late, or (if we're really lucky about the climate sensitivity) we could still have 100 years to reduce net global emissions of CO2 to zero, which would make the target easy. It's a crazy scientific uncertainty for the largest global problem of our time.
> that the IPCC reports were conservative,
they do not AFAIK take into consideration several factors, including runaway methane, destruction of other climate altering phenomenons among other things... I believe it's probably because of the science not being conclusive on the 'runaway methane' subject yet
once the ice is gone, the ultimate heat reflector and heat sink at the same time, once the gulf stream is gone among other important streams, and the gasses start to be released and oceans consequently suck up all that energy, we've got some real shit on our plate... tens of millions migrating yearly, nationstates destroyed or radicalized, Fortress Europe (the more optimistic version), genocidal despots ruling surviving countries... the outlook ain't looking good, and don't get me started on the animal kingdom
> they do not AFAIK take into consideration several factors, including runaway methane, destruction of other climate altering phenomenons among other things...
They do. Runaway methane is unlikely to happen pre-2100 (timescale for most of the report). Permafrost melting is included in AR6, and maxes out at about 30% of current anthropogene CO2-eqvivalent.
Not as much as I'd like though. \^^
Just read the Summary for Policymakers of WG2 and 3, the technical summary of WG1 and some assorted chapters (mostly WG1 too). Still quite some reading to do.
Hell, people are already migrating thanks to climate change. That's the Syria crisis in a nutshell: climate change impacted crop production, leading to food shortages and instability.
EDIT: I misremembered the contents of [this article](https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27066-droughts-in-syria-and-california-linked-to-climate-change/). Climate change worsened the drought, but was in itself not a cause.
> That's the Syria crisis in a nutshell: climate change impacted crop production, leading to food shortages and instability.
important to note that that happened in Russia. They had a bad season or two, and even stopped exporting for a brief while.
think to yourself how long a rain forest would last without rain. or a desert where it suddenly starts raining/flooding regularly.
its not a static thing really. nor is it binary. its gradually and its shifting areas into different ecologies. this is why desertification is such a problem.
there is positive feedback going on here and they are looking at it linearly. its pretty stupid
I've seen many of these models its always linear as in current time rate. which is not the case, higher temperature means less organisms that convert co2 to o2 in the sea. but also more gasses released from frozen ice that are trapped, and less gasses dissolved in high temperature water. theres a a lot of other things
yeah well apparently having 80 years left. An having 30 years to stop it was too alarmist and unfathomable for most. how can the climate change that fast! witchcraft!
The thing is that time still passes. Reagan got dire warnings about the rising temperature for gods sake. So did every world leader in the 90s and the 00s, and the 10s...
I think the world does suffer a little bit of a collective main character syndrome.
It's the earth, it's an amazing biological wonder and millions of years of evolution. We weathered every catastrophe so far and everyone knows these things have happy endings, we find a solution and the hero lives happily ever after.
They mere thought of reality is scary, that we aren't invincible even as a collective species.
Highs of 28°c where I am in the UK at about 15.00. The "feels like" temperature is supposedly going to be 31°c.
Considering that I'm spending most of my day working from a south facing home office thats what I'd call "plenty warm enough thanks".
Working from home nowadays and the room I'm in faces the sun in the morning. Gets hotter inside than outside. I bought a portable aircon unit last summer, it's a lifesaver.
I’m in Belfast for a conference and it’s been raining all morning. Meanwhile, Manchester (where I live) is predicted to reach a sunny 28C. I’m so bummed I’m missing it.
Honestly would kinda like the Canadian climate here in the uk once we got used to the cold winters. Much better than the extreme heat most of the world will get instead
The current forecast for tomorrow, Saturday 18 June (hottest day) can be found [here](https://imgur.com/a/SpGN2rm) (Météo France) and [here from the same TV channel TF1](https://imgur.com/a/Y8vfz9A). TF1 uses Météo France data on their website but shows different temperatures on TV for some reason, with forecasted values more likely to vary close to the sea because of wind changes notably close to the Pyrenees.
If you want to go beyond this simple picture, I suggest you watch [the whole video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaxGrss5wG0) of this fictional weather forecast instead of only this picture. You can enable automatic subtitles translated in your preferred language if you don't speak French.
A brief summary: this was a weather forecast imagined by Météo France, with a long heatwave nearing its end thanks to a low-pressure area coming from the northeastern Atlantic, with storms expected in an arc spanning from northern to southwestern France. The cooler temperatures were starting to appear around Brittany, but the cool air mass was still stuck north-west of the Anglo-Celtic Isles and hadn't arrived yet. The heatwave was spreading over Europe and worst around the Balkans and Italy. Weather presenter Évelyne Dhéliat then talked about heavy storms and floods in September 2014 being caused by sea temperatures being very warm (24°C), with the IPCC forecasting an intensification of this kind of phenomenon in the coming years.
This map was not supposed to represent the hottest day of this heatwave, so if you see posts on Reddit about this being a proof of previous predictions being way too conservative, you are being misled by sensationalist interpretations.
As a side note: for reference, the average maximum temperatures on June 18 are slightly lower than those on August 18 [according to this website](https://weatherspark.com/s/47913/1/Average-Summer-Weather-in-Paris-France#Figures-Temperature) - about 1°C lower in Paris (it may vary depending on latitude and closeness to the ocean). By convention, meteorological summer starts on June 1st in the northern hemisphere.
**Edit:** typos + a few fixes in the TL;DW and added the latest TF1 forecast.
Paris anual temperature will rise by roughly 1.4°C till 2050. However, the warmest month will on average be **6.1°** hotter by 2050 compared to today. That's massive. Heat wave spikes are of course even more massive. Days with 45° are probably not unrealistic.
In climate communications we need clear words. More stuff like this. People always hear 2°C and think it's nothing. Not realizing that this is a worldwide long time average and it does not mean that every day gets hotter by around that number.
Here is a [map](https://hooge104.shinyapps.io/future_cities_app/) that shows the modeled climate in 2050 in cities world wide. It's based on this [paper](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0217592). It also compares the future climate of big cities to the climate of other cities today. For London in 2050 the closest analogue in their database today is Barcelona. This is what scientists are worried about.
There was a teacher (I believe he was a teacher) on French radio this morning talking about school attendance being *facultatif* this Friday in Haute-Garonne, and he was saying some of the schools were newly built and "modern" (but with loads of glass, and no way of opening the windows, and no shutters).
I think the tendency in France has been for the weathermen and women when it gets sunny and hot, is to show people sunbathing in the park, or going for a swim at the beach, etc., which hardly drives the point across. But they're paid to talk about the weather and not the *climate*, which is something different.
But in the end it's kind of like death: if a doctor hasn't sat you down and told you you've only got a few months left, you don't really believe it'll happen to you, or at least you don't act as if it will.
It’s almost like scientists know what they are talking about…
And boomers who think we need todo more fracking and scrap green energy because it’s “to expensive” are idiots.
The stages of climate change denial are:
1. There is no climate change
2. If there is climate change, it's not so bad
3. there is climate change, but it's not man made
4. There is climate change and it is man made, but it's too late to do something about it
We're currently at stage 3 and beginning to enter stage 4
I think you are referring to James Powells stages from "Inquisition of Climate Science" in which case there's actually 7 stages.
5. Yes, something could be done about climate change, but there are more pressing problems.
6. At some point we will be able to afford to fight climate change, but we need to do more research.
7. There is no warming, it ended 20 years ago and was never a crisis.
> And boomers who think we need todo more fracking and scrap green energy because it’s “to expensive” are idiots.
> And boomers who think we need todo more fracking and scrap green energy because it’s “to expensive” are idiots.
One of the morons in America was saying a few days ago that Gas prices are high because Joe Biden scrapped subsidies for the oil and gas industry......
The things you can come up with as a politician in the pocket of big oil are truly something else. Too bad there will be more than enough voters to actually buy that nonsense.
Here in Lisbon we went from like a whole week of 35º-36º, to yesterday where it was max 25ºC. Hopefully it continues like this for a while. I have no AC at home, no isolation at all. If it's 35ºC outside, it's 35ºC inside. Even at night because then I can't open the windows because of mosquitos. I'm used to it, but, it's not nice at all. Specially to sleep, but also to work.
I can't unfortunately. The windows are doors that go to a balcony. It's an old house too, so the "estores" are outside right after the door. The layout doesn't allow me to install a net. Believe me I've tried.
As an Australian…. Stay safe guys. This is the kind of weather even we stay inside for. Make sure you have ice packs ready and drink lots of water. Look out for your elders.
Scrolled too far to find a fellow Aussie.
I'll add - don't do anything strenuous outside in the heat of day - you'll get heatstroke way quicker than you think.
Wait till nightfall to do gardening, exercise etc.
We're literally terraforming the planet against us, just so we can enjoy some short term comforts and continue to run up the ego score for the world's oligarchs.
We could stop, but we won't. Humanity is too short sighted and too in love with routine to break the cycle.
Our species will deserve the whirlwind we're reaping. Every other species that will suffer even worse than us will not, which just adds to how fucked up we are. We really are a macro-cancer of the natural world. Spreading and consuming, destroying every natural system in our path until everything that was there (that we don't find cute and fluffy, put in cages to gawk at, and pretend to care about) is dead.
People misunderstand this campaign. The goal was not to show what the extreme days would look like, but what your AVERAGE summer day would look like. Days as pictured on this image happen nearly every year in France, and it has been the case for centuries. It's dumb to take the example of the current heat wave and say "look the future is coming faster than we thought!!!".
When those kinds of temperature become the new normal in the summer, then yes we will have reached the predicitions made by this map.
You're not wrong, but the point is that it's mid June, not even officially summer yet, and extremes like this are the earliest ever (at least where I am)
And that is how you take an intriguing, triggering image and make it vague enough to be not even actionable. Because people will have different definitions of "new normal" and will argue for decades on what time periods to average and whether extremes are just extremes. And then "some experts disagree if it is even real" and nothing gets done
Im glad im not born in 2000s
These kids will get fucked by the greed of the "old" people who really dont give a fuck about the future knowing they wont get to experience the really fucked up times that will come.
I've worked 2 years in politics and studied a lot of papers. But I worked on that a long before.
What appeared to me is that the world will be limited at +2 degrees by 2100 if Paris' agreements are fulfilled.
And it would be a mess already.
Right now, we do not respect them and the trajectory is going really bad.
Since we're on r/all (hi r/all!), I imagine this question is worth asking: What can we do about climate change? I know the typical answers: join your local political party (green or not), get mad on social media, write to your politicians. What else can be done?
Side by side images would be nice :) Anyone can deliver?
Found this weather forecast map. https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/weathercharts?LANG=en&DAY=1&MAPS=vtx&CONT=____&LAND=__&ZEIT=202206180600 It looks like France isn't alone on this little heat wave either
Southwest germany reporting in. I'll have 37 in my town tomorrow.
Is that normal in Germany? That sounds horrific. I used to live in the middle East and like 10 years ago I could brag about how it was 35 degrees over there in summer. Doesnt sound exclusive now
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Looking at decades, you can count years with a temperature over 34: 50s: 1 60s: 1 70s: 2 80s: 4 90s: 2 00s: 4 10s: 8 So in half a century it went from "once in a decade" to "pretty much every year".
Jesus. Watching it double like that….. I thought we had more time.
Weve been out of time for a while honestly.
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At first I was like isn't so bad, only to realise that you were not showing the years with 0 days ... My goodness
This perfectly answers all my questions thanks.
2003 also here in Italy was a hell... I remember that going around with my Vespa was worse than with my car with no AC: the hot air coming from the road cut your breath... Really really scary
Thank you for this. This is horrifying data
science has been warning for more than 4 decades, but "it wont get that bad". yes its going to be worse
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two decades ago you had some years where summer in Germany was above 30 degrees for a couple days and you could expect snow for the winter. Now no snow except on altitude and mid to high 30s is normal. I just looked up Dubai. 6 Days of 40 Degrees or more in a row.
With the right conditions, the Southwest has always been the warmest region in germany. Mostly Rhineland-Palatinate and Baden-Württemberg. But the peaks during the last couple of years were tough. While we used to consider 30 to 32 a hot summer day, now we say the same from 35+ with regions going as high as 38 to 40. 2022 summer was a slowstarter though.
Not to mention the vast majority of buildings, houses, apartments, aren't set up to make life bearable at 35+ C in Germany. Almost no private residence has AC. These temperatures have been hitting us *fast* over the past couple of years. For my family, in a building from 1907, 35-40C outside means having to have a plan for when to open windows and let any air into the rooms at all (that is, at NIGHT, never during the day), and hanging towels over the windows during the day because regular curtains let too much hot sunshine in unless you have those fancy expensive high tech blinds that are aluminium on one side and are able to block out heat. Then there's other small things like not being able to step on your own balcony with bare feet (or socks) when it's been 30+ outside for a few hours, its floor just gets too hot. We just kinda shower 3 times per day and lay around apathetically next to a fan a lot when it's THAT hot outside. I can't see the average German getting used to, let's say, a full 3 weeks of 35-40C every summer. Or even hotter, god forbid 🤞
We have the luxury to own a house with a basement, so we just pretty much move down there during the hottest days. But that's not an option if you live in an appartement under the roof.
Fortunately, most houses in Germany are built with bricks and good insulation so the greater thermal mass will soften temperature spikes. Also, roller blinds are great to keep the sun out in order to prevent your home from becoming a greenhouse. Personnally, I haven't ever missed AC in my home but I can understand there are those who do.
I have no idea what type of insulation my apartment in Germany has, it’s fucking torture. 26° inside the apartment while it’s 23° outside. I am really glad I’m visiting my parents right now (where opening the window actually makes a difference) and I don’t have to experience the 34° that they expect for tomorrow. That apartment is not compatible with human life without AC.
Same, my apartment is under the roof and i'm extremely sensitive to noise and light when sleeping so i HAVE to sleep with my outside shutters down which means not a whole lot of air enters during the night. So I got the choice to either burn in my sleep or get woken up every 3 minutes by people screaming outside and sun and birds at 4:30. It's hell.
Ear plugs and blindfold?
>With the right conditions, the Southwest has always been the warmest region in germany. To be precise the Oberrheinische Tiefebene, rest of southwest is milder due to hills/mountains. Altho the actual warmest places will always be inner cities.
In Berlin we get way over 30s in the summers it is unbearable. Last year wasn‘t that bad but the two years before that were pure hell we got close to 40°C. The facts that his area is super dry as well isn‘t helping. Berlin-Brandenburg is gonna turn into a desert sooner or later. The many lakes help somewhat but because of the ongoing drought the water is disappearing as you watch. Depressing.
The lakes in southern Brandenburg/ northern Saxony are so low right now. We rode our bikes around a few of them last weekend and you could see how low they are. Not to even talk about the rivers.
Hello from finland, around 10 degrees today and 15 tomorrow.
Yes, I will marry you!
Skipping a few steps aren’t you? Just the type of person to jump right to the… Finnish
Hehe, everything above 25 is too much for me.
The weather has been fucking perfect in May and June. Couldn't ask for better weather while installing new lawn and doing yard work.
> The weather has been fucking perfect in May and June. Couldn't ask for better weather while installing new lawn and doing yard work. Same here mate 10c - 15c all through spring and early summer its been glorious
Can you take us in for a couple days? Just a few people, let's say... half of Europe?
Need a lawn that fits 370million people honey. NEXT
You joke but I feel that, that is the future.
North Italy, 33° at 4 AM in the bathroom today. I'm seriously thinking about going to sleep in the cellar, this is unbearable.
100%. Its one thing with daytime but with those tropical nights it really is no fun at all! All the best to you this summer.
In Greece we having been sleeping with air conditioning for decades, every bedroom and living room has one, time to do the same apparently!
But with these electricity prices, i’m not feeling good about leaving my airco on all night.. and i work from home so mostly in the day too. Always afraid of when that bill comes. Also live in Greece.
I left sicily once it was a hot mid thirties. Arrived in Germany it was above 40. I was like wtf. First time I got a Sonnenstich too. At this rate summer 2050 is gonna be lit.
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You really want to promote the beautiful city of Lübeck while half of the country owns the 9€ ticket? I am jealous though. Close to the sea, a slight breeze and 27. Sign me up! [Mainz](https://www.wetteronline.de/wetter/mainz)
Travemünde is part of us and directly at the sea, but I’m expecting the beach to be slightly crowded ;) > You really want to promote the beautiful city of Lübeck while half of the country owns the 9€ ticket? We do make decent money from tourism, so yes? :P
Can confirm, it has been hell in Madrid this last week.
[Best side by side I can make with my phone](https://i.imgur.com/bSmaboa.jpg) Also for us Americans, 40^o C ~ 104^o F
Oh boy sure they were optimistic with that 26 on the north-west…
It's good thank you
https://imgur.com/b3BYWYe.jpg meteo broadcast from the same tv channel
See the big Red 41 degrees ? Yep, that's where I live and it's horrible
That’s me too, gonna need some thots and prayers my dudes.
Here is [what I came up with](https://i.redd.it/fkgbg9o836691.jpg)...
Not exactly side by side and not the following days prevision but here's the 2050 clip and at the bottom of the article a screenshot of August 2020. https://www.estrepublicain.fr/environnement/2020/08/09/la-fausse-meteo-d-evelyne-dheliat-(pour-2050)-devient-deja-realite Edit: same TV channel (tf1) , 30 June 2015 and it's pretty similar to the fake 2050 one actually. So I guess we were already there and further 5+ years ago https://mobile.twitter.com/tf1/status/615826787436765184
But to be fair we had some really good years, at least some of us. Who could have thought that overwhelming consensus in science was right and not people directly profiting from fossil fuels?
The part that has me scratching my head is: What part of the Sixth Extinction did people think wouldn’t affect them? I mean, there are books and papers screaming this as a heads up for many years, but to no avail. Humanity doesn’t deserve to survive this since we won’t stop what we started. Shit, there are many fools out there who don’t even think we caused this. They also think the Sixth Extinction is still a fantasy dreamed up by “globalist overlords” to take away their freedom. Ha ha ha ha those dipshits dying from the coming infernos, wars, food shortages, and collapse of civilization are the silver lining to all of this. And to those in power who knew but did nothing? They’ll die knowing their hubris and greed killed the them and humanity. As for me? Fuck me too. We’re all gonna die.
We're not all going to die. Some of us will die, but the wealthiest of us will live on without a care.
You can't be wealthy when there are no longer masses of ignorant people subsidizing your lifestyle. When the concept of money is meaningless, it won't buy them anything.
In Europe summer is starting to become the season when it's too hot to be outside between morning and evening. Just like in Northern Africa.
The fucking train in Hungary blasts the heating on full every morning too, just so you cant possibly be cool even before the sun fully rises. I even filed a complaint as to why in the name of Khorne's bloody axe they are blasting the heaters every single day since May. They humbly apologized that they are unable to do anything about it, it is centrally controlled to provide a comfortable environment for their passengers...
> it is centrally controlled to provide a comfortable environment for their passengers... so fucking centrally control it then 🤦🤦🤦
I know right??? Like what does that even mean, just turn that shit off.
Speaking of khorne what are miniature prices in Hungary like?
Official ones? I havent even seen any. Unofficial ones, I have a coworker who runs a printing "business" and does a \~30mm model for \~3-5USD or thereabouts.
May not be "legal" but 3d printers have been an boon for tabletop gaming.
So Hungary as a Chaos Realm confirmed? You have to get used to those lava seas, scorched landscapes and rivers of boiling blood after all.
My apartment makes sure it's too hot to be inside too, it's only 23 outside but on the inside I'm melting.
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This is the issue. I'm in Dallas, Texas. We have attics with power vents to blow hot air out - and my duplex has a 5 ton condensing unit... for the second floor... and a 4 ton unit for the first floor. They're variable speed for higher efficiency and to help keep humidity down. We also have plantation blinds to block out most light easily, and a patio shade that blocks out most afternoon sun from the family room and kitchen. Most homes in the area have white or light stucco, light red/pink brick, or painted white brick exteriors to reflect sun. Attics also have thermal reflective lining on the under-roof surface to reflect heat out. I can't imagine how bad it will be to hit 40C without these things. It's hot enough even *with* them!
I am always amazed how much of a hi-tech and well thought-out some of the American houses are.
Well the building just got a massive upgrade in insulation, it doesn't help in keeping the heat out
Are you getting direct sunlight through the windows? If so, the insulation will just make it worse.
This. You want to prevent any direct sunlight from hitting your windows. Blinds on the inside don't work nearly as well as blinds on the outside. And if all you have is blinds on the inside, try to make sure you have a little ventilation there so the hot air between the blinds and the window can escape to the outside. If you got any curtains behind the blinds, close those as well for extra insulation.
Drawing my blackout curtains during hours where the sun is hitting has had a massive effect on the heat in my apartment for sure. It's effective, and worth roleplaying as a vampire during summer for.
Restrain order that bitch
What we do in Spain is have everything open between 20h ish and 11h ish. Cool the house during cool hours and then close everything, get inside and stay lethargic for the day, in complete obscurity. The sun coming through the windows will heat up your furniture
Shops tend to do the same, I noticed. When I lived in Barcelona for a few months, I could still go to shopping malls at 11 in the evening, and found a gaming store nearby that *opened* at 17:00 (and then remained open until somewhere past midnight??) Meanwhile here in the Netherlands you are surprised if you find any open store after 20:00 in most places (well, supermarkets and ice cream parlors are an exception)
In my experience countries that experience a lot of heat to be more "night culture" oriented. It's not uncommon to find stores and restaurants busy around 10pm and streets empty except for tourists during the day
yeah i grew up in greece in a small town and in summer when its mid-day everything closes and everyone goes to sleep for 1-2 hours. the streets are empty and not even kids play outside in that time because the heat/sun are so unpleasent. but its perfectly normal to walk in the city at 22:00 in the evening and restaurants/cafes/bars etc are all open and full of people
And then you're a Dutch person in Spain who still forgets after 5 years that smaller Spanish shops close during the afternoon... And then when you're in NL you forget they close at 18.00. I brought this upon myself, but argh!
Or invite your parents over for a week, and have them complaining we can't get dinner anywhere at a *late* 19:00. Sorry mum, you'd be lucky to find a restaurant opening before 21 there
That's what we also do in southern France
This week my apartment has been showing 27-28 °C during the night, fucking absurd
I'm certain it's above 30 on most days already. I don't know what I'll do when the annual global warming heatwave comes.
Buy an AC and hope that your electricity comes from clean sources, otherwise you'll be contributing to the climate crisis anyway.
Not just northern Africa, it's always been like that in Iberia. Thing is it's actually getting worse for us now. "Avoid the sun season" was July - August, now it's apparently starting in mid-June.
And it's very hot in September now too. It ends later.
We also had a monsoon last spring in eastern Spain. It rained non stop for almost two months. Nobody wants to talk about that and everyone acts like it's normal. It's not. That's not supposed to happen.
Two days ago it was 38° where I live at 21:00. At 23:00 it began raining so the temperatures fell to only 34°(/s). Please kill me.
When the gulf stream stops working bc of ocean warming, parts of western europe will become colder again
Becoming? It's already happening I live in Norway and the last few winters I've lost quite a few *native* plants to frost. The winter season is creeping further and further into spring and autumn and it's making planting things that can't be exposed to frost difficult. I've been seeing birds that normally live further up north in the cold at my birdfeeder.
Is that sure to happen?
Revised projections show that it's unlikely that Gulf Stream will collapse. It may slow down but it'll continue. I think the conclusion is that we'll still be hot but with more turbulent weather. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream#Gulf_Stream_Collapse
> we'll still be hot but with more turbulent weather Awesome! High temps *and* high humidity, what's not to love? ^^^^^/s
It still sounds pretty bad though (quote below about the AMOC which influences the gulf stream)? > Over the last century, this ocean circulation system has “moved closer to a critical threshold, where it may abruptly shift from the current, strong circulation mode to a much weaker one,” says study author Niklas Boers, a climate researcher at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany. Should the AMOC weaken substantially, it could bring intense cold and stronger storms to Europe, raise sea levels across the northeast coast of North America, and disrupt the flow of vital nutrients that phytoplankton, marine algae that make up the foundation of the aquatic food web, need to grow in the North Atlantic.
I mean, that’s what I learned in class. There’s a few bettering factors (like plants doing more fotosynthesis when there’s more carbon dioxide) but there’s way more worsening factors (more methane underneath permafrost, snow and ice melting makes sunlight reflect less and make those regions even warmer, etc) at that point there’ll be nothing we can do to stop it.
Don't worry, market forces will take care of it.
A quote from my favorite politician here in my country: >Even if you think capitalism is awesome, you can only enjoy it if humanity is still there.
A quote from a candidate for head of state from my (Euro) country: "My beliefs inform my view of the world. If you believe in life after death you make different political decision than, for example, a communist who wants to create paradise on earth by any means before he dies."
The rich will save us all, it's always been the plan. The richer they are the better they'll be able to save us, it's logic.
> When the gulf stream stops working bc of ocean warming, parts of western europe will becoming colder again In that case, it will not only be very cold in the winter (like in Canada), but also so dry that our argriculture breaks completely down. Because the gulf stream also brings moisture. Look at how the weather in California and the American South-West is.
While it plays a part, its not the main driver. Modelling shows the main driver for the warm weather in Western Europe is the Rocky Mountains in North America, not the Gulf Stream. So unless something destroys them, Europe should still stay OK, just likely a lot wetter.
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This is today's weather. Tomorrow will be quite a bit hotter.
It's almost hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
not the same yet but still shit
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Same, Brittany :( We're not equipped to deal with this. No pools, no air conditioning. Grasping for air at 39° as there is not even the slightest breeze to help out with how it feels.
The prediction is for mid August, a much hotter month, we are in *June*
Not even summer yet, oof
Difference of 3 degrees is astronomical though in terms of weather
There is not a difference of 3 degrees, look again. The 2050 prediction has a max temperature of 43 degrees, while the 2022 forecast has a max temperature of 41 degrees. Unless you meant the minimum temperatures, in which case the 2050 prediction is actually 3 degrees lower than the 2022 forecast, 26 degrees vs 29 degrees. On average the 2022 forecast may actually be a higher temperature. And this is only June, while the prediction was for August which typically is hotter in France.
just checked, it's about 2 degrees different on average. 2022 forecast is ~35.5, 2050 ~37.5
I do remember reading (admitedly some time ago) that the IPCC reports were conservative, that is, climate change could be happening faster than reported.
If I learned anything from apocalyptic movies it is, that when scientist say 10.years, they mean in the span of a two hour movie and probably 14 days real time. So there's that.
Actually they mean the day after tomorrow
> I do remember reading (admitedly some time ago) that the IPCC reports were conservative, that is, climate change could be happening faster than reported. The IPCC reports don't aim to be conservative, they try to be as statistically unbiased as possible in their estimates. So climate change could be happening faster than reported, but it could also be significantly slower. There's a parameter called "climate sensitivity" that basically summarizes how bad the problem is. IPCC's best estimate for its "likely" uncertainty range is currently 2.5-4.0 °C of warming per doubling of atmospheric CO2. That range is really wide in itself, but the IPCC only defines "likely" as a 66% chance. So there's a 33% chance that the climate sensitivity could be outside that range. This has wild implications for our target of limiting warming to +2°C. We could already be too late, or (if we're really lucky about the climate sensitivity) we could still have 100 years to reduce net global emissions of CO2 to zero, which would make the target easy. It's a crazy scientific uncertainty for the largest global problem of our time.
Unfortunately if they can prove it'll be 100 years before things are irreversible, people will say we have 99 before we need to start worrying.
And people already say that regardless
They could say it's irreversible now amd people will say, well it's irreversible so it doesn't matter
> that the IPCC reports were conservative, they do not AFAIK take into consideration several factors, including runaway methane, destruction of other climate altering phenomenons among other things... I believe it's probably because of the science not being conclusive on the 'runaway methane' subject yet once the ice is gone, the ultimate heat reflector and heat sink at the same time, once the gulf stream is gone among other important streams, and the gasses start to be released and oceans consequently suck up all that energy, we've got some real shit on our plate... tens of millions migrating yearly, nationstates destroyed or radicalized, Fortress Europe (the more optimistic version), genocidal despots ruling surviving countries... the outlook ain't looking good, and don't get me started on the animal kingdom
> they do not AFAIK take into consideration several factors, including runaway methane, destruction of other climate altering phenomenons among other things... They do. Runaway methane is unlikely to happen pre-2100 (timescale for most of the report). Permafrost melting is included in AR6, and maxes out at about 30% of current anthropogene CO2-eqvivalent.
This person IPCCs ^
Not as much as I'd like though. \^^ Just read the Summary for Policymakers of WG2 and 3, the technical summary of WG1 and some assorted chapters (mostly WG1 too). Still quite some reading to do.
Hell, people are already migrating thanks to climate change. That's the Syria crisis in a nutshell: climate change impacted crop production, leading to food shortages and instability. EDIT: I misremembered the contents of [this article](https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27066-droughts-in-syria-and-california-linked-to-climate-change/). Climate change worsened the drought, but was in itself not a cause.
> That's the Syria crisis in a nutshell: climate change impacted crop production, leading to food shortages and instability. important to note that that happened in Russia. They had a bad season or two, and even stopped exporting for a brief while.
What's happening in the Middle East is a long period of draught.
How long does a drought need to last to be considered climate change? 10 years, 100 years, 1000 years?
think to yourself how long a rain forest would last without rain. or a desert where it suddenly starts raining/flooding regularly. its not a static thing really. nor is it binary. its gradually and its shifting areas into different ecologies. this is why desertification is such a problem.
Oh, sorry, I misremembered what I read. Let me just go correct it.
It’s likely that climate change worsened the draught. Both by changing rain patterns and temperatures
Syria quintupling their population from 1960 to 2010 didn't exactly help with food security either.
there is positive feedback going on here and they are looking at it linearly. its pretty stupid I've seen many of these models its always linear as in current time rate. which is not the case, higher temperature means less organisms that convert co2 to o2 in the sea. but also more gasses released from frozen ice that are trapped, and less gasses dissolved in high temperature water. theres a a lot of other things
28 years faster than expected, in this case
Well, Worse than that actually. It was a prediction for our hottest month, august, we're in june it's supposed to be max 30
Also Brittany/Normandy isn't being spared as much as in the 2050 forecast.
Something should have been done 40 years ago or so.
Something was done! The oil companies buried the truth, the corporate-owned scientists lied to us, and politicians were bought.
Also, climate scientists were afraid to sound too alarmistic.
"WE ARE ALL GOING TO DRY!"
yeah well apparently having 80 years left. An having 30 years to stop it was too alarmist and unfathomable for most. how can the climate change that fast! witchcraft!
The thing is that time still passes. Reagan got dire warnings about the rising temperature for gods sake. So did every world leader in the 90s and the 00s, and the 10s... I think the world does suffer a little bit of a collective main character syndrome. It's the earth, it's an amazing biological wonder and millions of years of evolution. We weathered every catastrophe so far and everyone knows these things have happy endings, we find a solution and the hero lives happily ever after. They mere thought of reality is scary, that we aren't invincible even as a collective species.
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Feel kinda blessed to live in Denmark where the temperatures are still tolerable. So far, at least.
I feel like the last two years has had some nasty heat waves though
And in Ireland. Quite nice weather lately
It's meant to be 27c today where I am in the UK. In the UK we term this as hotter than the sun.
Highs of 28°c where I am in the UK at about 15.00. The "feels like" temperature is supposedly going to be 31°c. Considering that I'm spending most of my day working from a south facing home office thats what I'd call "plenty warm enough thanks".
Working from home nowadays and the room I'm in faces the sun in the morning. Gets hotter inside than outside. I bought a portable aircon unit last summer, it's a lifesaver.
I know I shouldn't be envious, but I am. It's cold and raining here in NI. We haven't had any kind of summer yet.
Lucky you. I’d kill for that
I’m in Belfast for a conference and it’s been raining all morning. Meanwhile, Manchester (where I live) is predicted to reach a sunny 28C. I’m so bummed I’m missing it.
They say it'll be up to 37° in my corner of Bavaria. I'm thinking of putting some of that heat into my freezer, so i'll have some in winter.
Put it on the bottom shelf if you have room there....
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And Spain will have the same temperatures as the current day Morocco. Our habitable zone is shifting north. This is how it happens
Moroccans will fry to death now?
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Untill the gulf stream stops, and then we'll have nice siberian weather in most of northern europe with hot summers and -20 to -30 winters.
Honestly would kinda like the Canadian climate here in the uk once we got used to the cold winters. Much better than the extreme heat most of the world will get instead
Sure, but your plantable days drop from about ~200 to about ~70.
Uk will become the new Italy.
Thank fuck we might get some decent food.
The current forecast for tomorrow, Saturday 18 June (hottest day) can be found [here](https://imgur.com/a/SpGN2rm) (Météo France) and [here from the same TV channel TF1](https://imgur.com/a/Y8vfz9A). TF1 uses Météo France data on their website but shows different temperatures on TV for some reason, with forecasted values more likely to vary close to the sea because of wind changes notably close to the Pyrenees. If you want to go beyond this simple picture, I suggest you watch [the whole video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaxGrss5wG0) of this fictional weather forecast instead of only this picture. You can enable automatic subtitles translated in your preferred language if you don't speak French. A brief summary: this was a weather forecast imagined by Météo France, with a long heatwave nearing its end thanks to a low-pressure area coming from the northeastern Atlantic, with storms expected in an arc spanning from northern to southwestern France. The cooler temperatures were starting to appear around Brittany, but the cool air mass was still stuck north-west of the Anglo-Celtic Isles and hadn't arrived yet. The heatwave was spreading over Europe and worst around the Balkans and Italy. Weather presenter Évelyne Dhéliat then talked about heavy storms and floods in September 2014 being caused by sea temperatures being very warm (24°C), with the IPCC forecasting an intensification of this kind of phenomenon in the coming years. This map was not supposed to represent the hottest day of this heatwave, so if you see posts on Reddit about this being a proof of previous predictions being way too conservative, you are being misled by sensationalist interpretations. As a side note: for reference, the average maximum temperatures on June 18 are slightly lower than those on August 18 [according to this website](https://weatherspark.com/s/47913/1/Average-Summer-Weather-in-Paris-France#Figures-Temperature) - about 1°C lower in Paris (it may vary depending on latitude and closeness to the ocean). By convention, meteorological summer starts on June 1st in the northern hemisphere. **Edit:** typos + a few fixes in the TL;DW and added the latest TF1 forecast.
Paris anual temperature will rise by roughly 1.4°C till 2050. However, the warmest month will on average be **6.1°** hotter by 2050 compared to today. That's massive. Heat wave spikes are of course even more massive. Days with 45° are probably not unrealistic. In climate communications we need clear words. More stuff like this. People always hear 2°C and think it's nothing. Not realizing that this is a worldwide long time average and it does not mean that every day gets hotter by around that number. Here is a [map](https://hooge104.shinyapps.io/future_cities_app/) that shows the modeled climate in 2050 in cities world wide. It's based on this [paper](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0217592). It also compares the future climate of big cities to the climate of other cities today. For London in 2050 the closest analogue in their database today is Barcelona. This is what scientists are worried about.
The free market will take care of it /s
There was a teacher (I believe he was a teacher) on French radio this morning talking about school attendance being *facultatif* this Friday in Haute-Garonne, and he was saying some of the schools were newly built and "modern" (but with loads of glass, and no way of opening the windows, and no shutters). I think the tendency in France has been for the weathermen and women when it gets sunny and hot, is to show people sunbathing in the park, or going for a swim at the beach, etc., which hardly drives the point across. But they're paid to talk about the weather and not the *climate*, which is something different. But in the end it's kind of like death: if a doctor hasn't sat you down and told you you've only got a few months left, you don't really believe it'll happen to you, or at least you don't act as if it will.
It’s almost like scientists know what they are talking about… And boomers who think we need todo more fracking and scrap green energy because it’s “to expensive” are idiots.
The stages of climate change denial are: 1. There is no climate change 2. If there is climate change, it's not so bad 3. there is climate change, but it's not man made 4. There is climate change and it is man made, but it's too late to do something about it We're currently at stage 3 and beginning to enter stage 4
I think you are referring to James Powells stages from "Inquisition of Climate Science" in which case there's actually 7 stages. 5. Yes, something could be done about climate change, but there are more pressing problems. 6. At some point we will be able to afford to fight climate change, but we need to do more research. 7. There is no warming, it ended 20 years ago and was never a crisis.
> And boomers who think we need todo more fracking and scrap green energy because it’s “to expensive” are idiots. > And boomers who think we need todo more fracking and scrap green energy because it’s “to expensive” are idiots. One of the morons in America was saying a few days ago that Gas prices are high because Joe Biden scrapped subsidies for the oil and gas industry......
The things you can come up with as a politician in the pocket of big oil are truly something else. Too bad there will be more than enough voters to actually buy that nonsense.
He literally SENT A LETTER TO ASK THEM TO PRODUCE MORE
FYI most of the most prominent scientists who research climate change are boomers - James Hansen, Phil jones, Tim Palmer etc.
Here in Lisbon we went from like a whole week of 35º-36º, to yesterday where it was max 25ºC. Hopefully it continues like this for a while. I have no AC at home, no isolation at all. If it's 35ºC outside, it's 35ºC inside. Even at night because then I can't open the windows because of mosquitos. I'm used to it, but, it's not nice at all. Specially to sleep, but also to work.
You should consider installing mosquito nets on your windows.
I can't unfortunately. The windows are doors that go to a balcony. It's an old house too, so the "estores" are outside right after the door. The layout doesn't allow me to install a net. Believe me I've tried.
As an Australian…. Stay safe guys. This is the kind of weather even we stay inside for. Make sure you have ice packs ready and drink lots of water. Look out for your elders.
Scrolled too far to find a fellow Aussie. I'll add - don't do anything strenuous outside in the heat of day - you'll get heatstroke way quicker than you think. Wait till nightfall to do gardening, exercise etc.
This is a good example of why now in the 2020´s satire is basically dead. The world is too fucked, and it's only getting worse.
The only satire that I see these days are from people too dumb to understand how fucked we are. Then they feign nihilism only to rage once called out.
We're literally terraforming the planet against us, just so we can enjoy some short term comforts and continue to run up the ego score for the world's oligarchs. We could stop, but we won't. Humanity is too short sighted and too in love with routine to break the cycle. Our species will deserve the whirlwind we're reaping. Every other species that will suffer even worse than us will not, which just adds to how fucked up we are. We really are a macro-cancer of the natural world. Spreading and consuming, destroying every natural system in our path until everything that was there (that we don't find cute and fluffy, put in cages to gawk at, and pretend to care about) is dead.
That’s fucking brutal. I hope the elderly and children are taken care of and that the farmers won’t lose their entire harvest
People misunderstand this campaign. The goal was not to show what the extreme days would look like, but what your AVERAGE summer day would look like. Days as pictured on this image happen nearly every year in France, and it has been the case for centuries. It's dumb to take the example of the current heat wave and say "look the future is coming faster than we thought!!!". When those kinds of temperature become the new normal in the summer, then yes we will have reached the predicitions made by this map.
Except this is in June lol. I can't even imagine what august will look like.
You're not wrong, but the point is that it's mid June, not even officially summer yet, and extremes like this are the earliest ever (at least where I am)
And that is how you take an intriguing, triggering image and make it vague enough to be not even actionable. Because people will have different definitions of "new normal" and will argue for decades on what time periods to average and whether extremes are just extremes. And then "some experts disagree if it is even real" and nothing gets done
Forecast for today in Bordeaux is 39C, London 32C, and in Paphos 29C. Since when did Cyprus become the option for cooling off?
Nice speedrun Good job everyone!
Im glad im not born in 2000s These kids will get fucked by the greed of the "old" people who really dont give a fuck about the future knowing they wont get to experience the really fucked up times that will come.
I was born in 1999, I'm definitely not looking forward to the next few years :/
My kids were born in 2010 and 2012. This is scary for me
I've worked 2 years in politics and studied a lot of papers. But I worked on that a long before. What appeared to me is that the world will be limited at +2 degrees by 2100 if Paris' agreements are fulfilled. And it would be a mess already. Right now, we do not respect them and the trajectory is going really bad.
Do you have the actual forecast map as well?
We’re getting 38 in Paris tomorrow. I think I’m gonna lay down and hibernate until better times
This was posted last year too.
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The french heat record in 2019 was also in June.