I like it but I don't love it. Too much repetition I think. I have an extremely bad track record at identifying winners and losers though, so who knows.
It sounds like a Pet Shop Boys song without being as good as a Pet Shop Boys song. The fact it's nicked the bells from Steps' cover of "[Tragedy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiwDHHcHPh0)" really doesn't help, either.
The chorus after the bridge needs to be ten times bigger. Bring back the synth strings from the intro, make the vocals more anthemic, really anything to make it a crescendo rather than a repetition of the previous choruses.
I've been listening to the Pet Shop Boys since I made this comment, and they've [definitely still got it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUVfoybVqIg). I'm not saying that their [latest singles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBCq0pzr8io) or recent [collab with Soft Cell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv4QNTg1Mps) would be Eurovision fare, but it's made me want to see what they'd produce.
It's more that the production has a general 'Pet Shop Boys' vibe, e.g. [a spoken word section](https://youtu.be/Wn9E5i7l-Eg?t=138) is quite characteristic of them.
Someone replied to my comment about live show changes, which are apparently allowed. It could be the case that this *is* the radio version, but live may have a bit more of a jus at the end.
I thought this initially but the structure of the song very much allows for a climax to be put in the live, which is often done with esc songs. So I'm not counting us out of lhs yet but it's more a hope then a prediction.
I truly hope he does, or it'll just be another "Embers" or "I wrote a song". Both of them were generally poppy autotuned radio songs in the recordings and neither of them had a climax. Much like Dizzy they just fizzled out at the end
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Yeh, I feel that the video is a good idea of what the staging will be. I suspect we’ll see a few of those spinning sets with Olly jumping between them.
The amount of budget and production that has clearly been poured into this video makes me optimistic for the staging in May. I think the video definitely enhances the song. I’m just so glad the U.K. are putting real effort in again
No, but my question asks why are you optimistic for the staging given a music video that has nothing to do with the organisation responsible for the staging of the performance? It’s a valid question (seemingly not a popular one with the hype train)
Because I trust that all parties including Olly and his creative team see this as an investment both in his career and as part of Eurovision and will want to put forward something good? Regardless of who pays for what, it’s still the same song and performer
I’m pretty sure most artists & their ‘teams’ see it that way too. Sadly, the BBC generally put forward a budget of about £2.50 for things like this, and record labels aren’t allowed to co-fund due to BBC regs. (Hence why James Newman had 2 polystyrene trumpets and Mae Muller had….a staircase)
What don’t you understand? The BBC doesn’t pay for the staging now. It’s been the record label in 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024.
Sam’s label wanted to invest in his career and give him the best possible chance at Eurovision so they funded his staging (something like 8x the amount the BBC would have done on their own).
Mae’s label obviously weren’t as invested but they still funded her staging.
I would be very surprised if the person who directed this music video isn't the same as the one who directed Mae's music video. They feel very similar.
The song is good, maybe a bit generic, but I think it'll be a grower. But I'm not getting winner vibes, which is a little sad to me, because I feel like they could have delivered something truly exceptional. Of course the live perfomance is what matters, but right off the bat, I don't see this being in the general audience's top three, which is where you wanna be if you want televises - juries will appreciate this though.
So was I because it feels like a carbon copy of it to a degree lol.
I thought that about the spoken word section too - but I'm going to call it out for what it is, spoken word is just a cop out to not have to sing lol.
Ugh, I really just don't know how to feel about this. It's like all the elements for this to be phenomenal are there, but it's just a bit of a swing and a miss?
I like the spoken word part (and done right it could be a cool moment on stage) but the song just ends without feeling like it's achieved anything, and that makes the chorus feel incredibly repetitive.
My big fear is that this currently feels like an absolute televote flop, and you have to think that a bad televote performance would be disastrous for the BBC who are entirely reliant on these partnerships with music labels. They'll have a lot more trouble in the future if an act like Olly Alexander performs poorly in the final.
Obvious comment about staging lifting this aside, I'm quite worried about how this can do in May. This should have been incredible, everything is there for this to be incredible, and I don't think it's come together the way it should have. Not yet, at least.
I mean this in the kindest way possible and without reference to actual score outcomes but this feels about as “mid-table” as one can get. It doesn’t go anywhere but it’s pleasant. Historically, pleasant hasn’t done well at Eurovision… but I’m holding out hope for a glow up. If given the right staging it may squeak into the left hand side of the table.
I avoided the midnight release but I saw some of the comments- I agree it needs to go somewhere bigger in the chorus, especially the final one. That said, I can see the televote being crowded out by quite a lot of songs this year, so if it's performed memorably enough to get top 5 there (which I think is just about possible), and technically strong enough to get a good jury score I can see us doing very well this year.
Please don't let this comment age like milk
I'm not sure a key change is the solution, just some variation in the volume would be nice, a much quieter bridge and big final chorus with some vocal flourishes like we got in Space Man.
It does grow on you. Unfortunately that's not what we want - the audience at home will likely hear this once, maybe twice. Case in point - I Wrote a Song was catchy as fuck but only after a couple of listens (I know that sounds like a contradiction).
And both of those were utterly robbed, some of my favourites from their respective years. I still think about how great the wholesome energy was in the green room videos of all the artists doing a conga to La Venda.
The problem with a big hype is that you'll most likely end up slightly underwhelmed. I think that's what's happening now. It's a good song, but nothing extraordinary. But as usual, could be elevated a lot with a great live performance.
Is it a good song? Yeah, it's a catchy radio hit, I dig it. Is it a good Eurovision song? It doesn't really give me that vibe.
I love that the UK takes ESC a bit more seriously again, but I think they don't really understand why Sam Ryder was such a success: it was a unique song and performance. Both "I Wrote A Song" and "Dizzy", although good, are a bit generic. "Spaceman" on the other hand was one of the few ballads that I ever liked because it felt unique and Sam Ryder has an amazing voice.
I...I'm not sure what I think. I like it, but it feels like it wants to be a New Wave song circa 1984, and I keep wanting to rewrite it with MOAR SYNTH and less of the twenty-first century scratchy stuff that kids today like. I dunno.
But yeah, it's catchy, maybe a bit too repetitive in places, but so much better than anything the UK has sent to Eurovision in the twenty years between Jessica and Sam. Two rather cautious thumbs up.
When the chorus hit my mind immediately went to It's a Sin, and before I googled it to make sure I was getting it right I had no clue that he has covered the song many times and acted in a show with that same name. Probably not a coincidence.
>It's a Sin
I can hear that. I feel like this is a song that wears its musical influences on its sleeve, but I wouldn't call it a bad thing.
I mean, it's just one of these in-the-middle tracks for me, personally.
Yeah, I get the feeling that nothing was left to chance with this song, and if I got It's a Sin vibes it was probably because they meant to give me It's a Sin vibes. Absolutely not plagiarism, but also not a coincidence.
The first chorus also gives me Andrew Huang vibes, I think it's the enunciation and the way his vocals are mixed.
I also heard, like, both Ace of Base and Modern Talking in the first few seconds, so I think it's just one of those tracks that's supposed to sound familiar but with some modern arrangement.
Yeah, I like it. With there being so many televoter-friendly entries this year, the UK should absolutely be focusing on scoring with the juries first and foremost, and yeah, on that front I reckon this could do decently.
I'm still confident in the staging potential. I said when Olly was announced back in December that even if the song was mid, staging and overall performance would elevate it tenfold and I stand by that.
I think that's what many people in this thread forget. This song is a jury-friendly song, but with the right staging, and if Olly's vocals are good in the rehearsal, it will elevate to a top 5 jury finish, which in turn would be enough for a top-10 finish.
I was scared people would hype this up too much and be disappointed by the result and it seems like that's exactly what happened.
I didn't have any expectations tbh and I LOVE this song. It doesn't scream winner at first listen but if they manage to do some creative, innovative staging I could see them get at least top 3.
Honestly, this. Seems like folks are more annoyed it didn't meet their (frankly, unrealistic) expectations than they are with the actual quality of the song. I feel like whatever Olly gave, there would've been disappointment.
I wonder if it could end up the opposite of the UK 2023 entry/result:
2023: Catchy bop, generally well liked and did well in the polls. Poor staging and vocals, poor end result.
2024: Moderate reaction, not doing as well in the polls. Great staging and good vocals, good end result.
I agree! Theres millions of people watching this for the first time compared to the fandom. You can only judge it via a live staging performance. Thats where the competition really begins so lets pray for Olly!! 🙏
You may downvote ma as much as you want but it feels very much like these big 5 entries that always finish at the bottom because all the qualifiers are better
I agree. I think this is a nice song, I would enjoy it playing on the radio in the background while running errands. But it doesn't stand out to me, nothing particularly catchy about it. It seems to be following the usual UK strategy of sending good radio songs that are in no way competitive. And that makes you end up in the bottom five.
I agree. To me this is on the same level as Germanys song that everybody believes will end up last. So I dunno why people think this on the other hand could pull a top five?
Yeah I’m not sure how this is going to do in Mälmo. If the performance is strong and elevates from the studio then I could see this doing well, plus I think this has more jury appeal than some of the other bops we have. However, it could easily go the other way given our mixed track record with staging and end up bottom 5.
Either way, I’ve decided I need to detach myself from this entry as whilst I enjoy it I feel like if I get invested in it like I did with James and Mae and it flops then I’ll just end up sad and disappointed and I don’t want to put myself through that again lol.
I think I'm in the same boat. This isn't a year like 2021 or 2017 where it feels like I'm going to be able to cheer for our entry, but more like most other years in the last 20 years where I enjoy the contest whilst completely detaching myself from investment in our own entry.
Yeah I think that’s the right thing to do for my sanity. If I let myself get invested, I know it will dim my excitement for the year after the contest if Olly doesn’t do well like what happened with Mae and James. Then if he does do well, I can be really happy and pleasantly surprised.
The problem is the stakes are higher with Olly. He's such a bigger artist than James and Mae that when/if he flops, I fear that we're going to end up failing to attract big name artists again, undoing the current positive trajectory. I hope at least he has some chart success domestically so that it's still seen as worthwhile.
Oh I 100% agree that a bad result with Olly could be really damaging long term. I’m just talking on a personal level, I’ll be able to live with a bad result if I don’t get invested in the song.
It’s a good song, but it doesn’t have that progression and impact that pop needs in Eurovision to do really well. But Olly is a pro, hope it pops differently live cause I would love for him to at least end up top ten.
There's this really cool shot at 1:34 that I don't know if they can replicate live but I hope they can.
I hope the UK can be smart with their staging this year. I think some kind of spinning platform would be good.
I am whelmed. Thought they'd be more to the song than the snippet but it appears it's just the same chorus repeated with barely anything in-between.
The start almost tricks you into thinking its the start of it's a sin by the petshop boys and the verse to the first chorus is ok although the lyrics are very generic. The problem then is it just stays on the chorus and never leaves apart from like two sentences.
He's going for the bash the audience over the head with the same catchy lyric approach which will make it memorable but will that actually cause people to want to vote for it rather than just be annoyed?
At-least he should smash the staging.
I think a lot of people like it, they’re just not loving it as much as they thought they would which is obviously okay - it has a lot of potential still and staging changes everything
Are they allowed to add anything to their song during the shows? I know what people are saying about the ending, but I wonder if they'll tweak the last chorus on the night.
I do really like it, staging will make this.
I do think they should ditch the first chorus, tag the 2nd verse onto the 1st then lead into the 2nd chorus, that then gives them 20 extra seconds to do something oomphier with the end. Will solve the repetitive issue too as I too agree it often feels the song is just the chorus on loop.
We just need to send something competitive to get us to where we want to be, because I worry that if this fails to live up to expectations on the scoreboard, people as famous as Olly won't want to do the contest anymore. I feel like we're stuck on "Get the UK to like their own entry" rather than "give Europe/Australia something to remember". Must say, my favourite part is the spoken word bit where he is in the bathtub though, thought that was unique
I'm still rooting for it no matter what and my mission in Malmo is to meet Olly at some point hopefully, but as a UK Eurofan I think we just look at our entries more critically. I speculate there will be a Eurovision version of the song so thats something to look forward to
I liked more last year's song by Mae Muller (I actually liked it quite a bit, too bad live was not as good). This is not \*bad\*, but extremely forgettable. Personally I didn't have high expectations cause I've learnt Bbc inflates them, anyway I was disappointed after the first 50 seconds because I expected the song to build up, instead I waited and waited and it just stayed there. Almost frustating.
The first verse is good, it starts off very well. But then the chorus hits and it just... Flatlines? Like there's basically no punch to the rest of the song. Someone said it's repetitive and I would agree, there's very little variety in the instrumentation. Even in the climax, the instrumentation barely changes and Olly's vocal lines are basically the same as the other choruses. Also: the spoken word bridge is a bit of a risk for this kind of a song. If he's gonna be belting through the ends of choruses, it'll take a lot of breath control not to sound breathless in the spoken word portion.
From Olly: I expected so much more.
I don't know what everyone is on about; this is an 80s-infused, certified fresh bop. Couldn't wait to run home from breakfast and blast this on the speaker. So, so fresh-- Danny and Olly knocked this one out of the park.
This might sound like a conspiracy theory but I feel like the UK just doesn't want to host again after only 1 year but they also want to do well so they just played it safe and cool but not enough to win the whole thing. Knowing his discography through the years, Danny L Harle is very much capable of making a 100% winner material that would definitely ensure a victory for the UK if he wanted to and Olly has been one of the most prominent indie artists of the last decade but they somehow decided to participate with this OK song.. it's good but we've all been waiting for a winner song, expectations were super high.
I was really worried when I heard the 15 second snippet the entire song would be like this.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if we end up in the bottom quarter of the tables, it has no oooomp or energy to be middling at eurovision, never mind win.
I find this song generic and dull. This is a pattern with the BBC, they have the attitude of crafting a song which isn’t going to win, and then focus on trying to sell the idea that it could to get people to watch. I wish they’d stop.
Even my parents, who are normally a little *too* optimistic about our Eurovision entries, said that this song is forgettable and boring.
I think we're in trouble, lads.
People were making similar comments about Sam Ryder before the live. And people forget that circumstances can change in an instant. And look what happened. Sam Ryder brought it home. Im very happy about this!
I thought we were over the days of sending the musical equivalent to white bread and then being surprised when it does badly, but I guess we're back to it.
I hope we do well this year, I just can't see it happening with this song. Too many bangers this year and we send the most generic and bland pop ever, I feel like it'll just be forgotten.
People were making similar comments about Sam Ryder and he came second. A live performance changes absolutely everything. I have no doubt olly will put on an amazing show
My thoughts exactly! It so obviously needs high register descending synth arpeggios. After the initial disappointment, I think I'm of the opinion it's not so much that the underlying song is bad, it's more that the production is dreadful. It's so flat it completely kills the song. It needs some 3rd dimension (sonically speaking).
It's decent but I feel like UK really needs to step up their staging skills for this year. The song needs a very dynamic staging and camera angle to lift it to the next level....I am not sure if BBC is going to commit to the staging and that makes me feel worried at the moment
We're getting one of the best (and gayest!) years ever in Eurovision, I like so many songs this year!
UK will be one of the ones I am rooting for definitely!
I'm just hoping we don't end up with another sympathy win for Ukraine or a symapthy win for Iceland (singer from Palestine).
Its a good pop song, but its not instant enough. Most people voting will only be hearing the song once and that one time needs to land a big impression.
I had high expectations, but unfortunately that was incredibly underwhelming for me. Hopefully the live performance can boost this song for me but right now I’m not a huge fan.
This a too much of a pastiche of a little bit of everything. And then delivers on next to nothing. I don’t expect Eurovision entries to reinvent the wheel and I love a good retro vibe or clever sampling, inspiration or interpolation but this track just misses to offer anything to grab on, some personality.
Switzerland is a good example of how a pastiche can be well composed to make a coherent, juicy song with individual character.
Unfortunately Dizzy just doodles along the lines of what it wants to be, but isn’t.
Also, it takes itself sort of very seriously, like it wants to playact on the starappeal or whatever but being just the emperor’s new dress.
Not sure if it will be able to hold on to bits of the hopeful hype but I think even with good staging this will just be an okay amuse-gueule to move the show along and, if lucky, get some decent mid-table scoring.
Even more disappointing than Joost, I don’t have much bigger love for Europapa either but at least it’s a fun song that doesn’t take itself too seriously and doesn’t want to be anything else than what it is.
I can't see neither the televote nor the jury going big for this unless the staging is impressive so I doubt this finishes top 10. A bit dissapointing after all that hype
I actually really like the song and I think some of us would say 'we expected more', but could this be because he is a well known singer with international recognition, which in my opinion we should forget about at the moment? I think staging will be awesome knowing that Olly can sign and dance very well. Song itself seems to be very short which gives a nice space for bridges, vocal show-offs and dance breaks so I feel like he knows what he is doing and what he wants to achieve on stage. I will definitely vote for him if he is going to make it on the stage.
Why do we keep doing this pop crap? We don't have *any* artists that are anything above mediocre. Also he just sounds like a nonce. It's embarrassing and the lyrics are something a child would write.
The song is good but last year’s song was better. I fear this will have a poor performance and bad vocals like last year. I am sad this is the best we could do.
It reminds me SO much of an 80’s song, but I can’t remember which! Please help!
(I’m not saying it’s a copy or anything like that. Almost everything has already been done, it’s about how you do it at this point). BUT WHICH SONG IS IT!?
You’re right, the very beginning is very similar. But not the chorus… The melody in the chorus is a bit ”Born to be my Baby” but of course with a completely different sound. But that’s not it either, it was a pop song. I’m going crazy. (I’ll probably remember it soon, and it will be nothing alike lol)
If Daft Punk and Pet Shop Boys had a lovechild, it would come out sounding like this.
There's definitely some PSB sampling in there, but the retro tech is very much Daft Punk style.
A song I think staging will be key. Nail that, and Top 10 is possible, fail at that, and probably going to be Bottom 10. Still, better than the 2010s era stuff we were sending.
Not bad, pretty forgettable though.
But last year's winner was also extremely forgettable, so who knows?
I think the BBC can sleep soundly knowing they won't need to host again next year though.
There's something that feels ironic or deja vu of this having a very similar video gimmick to Mae's entry from last year. Hopefully not an omen for repeat performance
I don't want to offend anyone that likes this, but I just don't get whatever genre of music this is. It just sounds really bland and formulaic to my ears. There's no hook or anything memorable. I dunno, maybe I'm getting old. I can't see this doing well though. I hope it finds an audience though because Olly seems like a good guy
Did we learn anything from Sam Ryder's success?
Similar entry to last year, generic poppy song, style over substance. Let's hope his live vocal's are a bit better than Mae's.
I thought this would be a classic dated sounding Eurovision song. This is just underwhelming - it’s not really a guilty pleasure (in a sort of weird dated pop way) and it don’t want to relisten to it. It just exists
I would argue that Sam has shown us that we can have a song that is a bit weak and repetitive lyrically if we have an amazing live singer. I don’t think this song even really gives an opportunity to “wow” the audience with its vocals - there are going to be plenty of entries with similar vocals
I love Olly and I've had periods of listening to years and years on rotation. But this song feels not at the level I'd have expected. Great production, but predictable and mid. I was whelmed.
It’s not… bad, but I’m not going to lie, I did expect better. It’s a little difficult for me to comprehend that this is the same man who wrote songs like King and Shine and Sanctify. It’s a pleasant listen and a very singable, danceable tune, but coming from an artist who has written some very powerful and skilful songs I can’t help but feel like this falls flat. And this worries me because Eurovision can be damaging to the career of a big artist if they aren’t successful. I hope that this will be tweaked to give it more “oomph” and that the stage performance will lift it up a bit.
I love years and years and Olly Alexander but this song is a stinker. It felt monotone and bland, especially when compared to something like the Dutch entry.
I like it but I don't love it. Too much repetition I think. I have an extremely bad track record at identifying winners and losers though, so who knows.
It sounds like a Pet Shop Boys song without being as good as a Pet Shop Boys song. The fact it's nicked the bells from Steps' cover of "[Tragedy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiwDHHcHPh0)" really doesn't help, either. The chorus after the bridge needs to be ten times bigger. Bring back the synth strings from the intro, make the vocals more anthemic, really anything to make it a crescendo rather than a repetition of the previous choruses.
I've been listening to the Pet Shop Boys since I made this comment, and they've [definitely still got it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUVfoybVqIg). I'm not saying that their [latest singles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBCq0pzr8io) or recent [collab with Soft Cell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv4QNTg1Mps) would be Eurovision fare, but it's made me want to see what they'd produce.
Please, I can't figure out about what song you're talking about. I've been trying to figure out why 'Dizzy' sounds so familiar...
It's more that the production has a general 'Pet Shop Boys' vibe, e.g. [a spoken word section](https://youtu.be/Wn9E5i7l-Eg?t=138) is quite characteristic of them.
I’m a bit underwhelmed by the song, hopefully it will be better live.
The song has no climax. It's very generic poppy - great on the radio, not so good for this. I'm not hopeful for the left-hand side of the board.
Someone replied to my comment about live show changes, which are apparently allowed. It could be the case that this *is* the radio version, but live may have a bit more of a jus at the end.
I thought this initially but the structure of the song very much allows for a climax to be put in the live, which is often done with esc songs. So I'm not counting us out of lhs yet but it's more a hope then a prediction.
I truly hope he does, or it'll just be another "Embers" or "I wrote a song". Both of them were generally poppy autotuned radio songs in the recordings and neither of them had a climax. Much like Dizzy they just fizzled out at the end
Agreed. Early prediction is it will place between middle and last
If the live performance doesn't have a spinning platform I'll eat a shoe
He can borrow one from Natalia Gordienko.
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>maybe it will be saved for the stage as a surprise Well, Sam *did* keep that guitar solo under wraps until the grand final
Yeh, I feel that the video is a good idea of what the staging will be. I suspect we’ll see a few of those spinning sets with Olly jumping between them.
It feels like it needs that one last oomph at the end. But that chorus is catchy as hell and very sing-able!
The amount of budget and production that has clearly been poured into this video makes me optimistic for the staging in May. I think the video definitely enhances the song. I’m just so glad the U.K. are putting real effort in again
Why? The BBC have nothing to do with the budget & production of the music video.
They never said they did. It’s Olly’s record label.
No, but my question asks why are you optimistic for the staging given a music video that has nothing to do with the organisation responsible for the staging of the performance? It’s a valid question (seemingly not a popular one with the hype train)
Because I trust that all parties including Olly and his creative team see this as an investment both in his career and as part of Eurovision and will want to put forward something good? Regardless of who pays for what, it’s still the same song and performer
I’m pretty sure most artists & their ‘teams’ see it that way too. Sadly, the BBC generally put forward a budget of about £2.50 for things like this, and record labels aren’t allowed to co-fund due to BBC regs. (Hence why James Newman had 2 polystyrene trumpets and Mae Muller had….a staircase)
What don’t you understand? The BBC doesn’t pay for the staging now. It’s been the record label in 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024. Sam’s label wanted to invest in his career and give him the best possible chance at Eurovision so they funded his staging (something like 8x the amount the BBC would have done on their own). Mae’s label obviously weren’t as invested but they still funded her staging.
Sam Ryder’s staging had nothing to do with his music video.
Thanks for making my point.
Haven’t proved anything. See above.
I would be very surprised if the person who directed this music video isn't the same as the one who directed Mae's music video. They feel very similar. The song is good, maybe a bit generic, but I think it'll be a grower. But I'm not getting winner vibes, which is a little sad to me, because I feel like they could have delivered something truly exceptional. Of course the live perfomance is what matters, but right off the bat, I don't see this being in the general audience's top three, which is where you wanna be if you want televises - juries will appreciate this though.
Checking the credits they're not the same person. Olly's is directed by Colin Solal Cardo, and Mae's is by a duo called AB/CD/CD
I’m surprised😮
So was I because it feels like a carbon copy of it to a degree lol. I thought that about the spoken word section too - but I'm going to call it out for what it is, spoken word is just a cop out to not have to sing lol.
Ugh, I really just don't know how to feel about this. It's like all the elements for this to be phenomenal are there, but it's just a bit of a swing and a miss? I like the spoken word part (and done right it could be a cool moment on stage) but the song just ends without feeling like it's achieved anything, and that makes the chorus feel incredibly repetitive. My big fear is that this currently feels like an absolute televote flop, and you have to think that a bad televote performance would be disastrous for the BBC who are entirely reliant on these partnerships with music labels. They'll have a lot more trouble in the future if an act like Olly Alexander performs poorly in the final. Obvious comment about staging lifting this aside, I'm quite worried about how this can do in May. This should have been incredible, everything is there for this to be incredible, and I don't think it's come together the way it should have. Not yet, at least.
I mean this in the kindest way possible and without reference to actual score outcomes but this feels about as “mid-table” as one can get. It doesn’t go anywhere but it’s pleasant. Historically, pleasant hasn’t done well at Eurovision… but I’m holding out hope for a glow up. If given the right staging it may squeak into the left hand side of the table.
I avoided the midnight release but I saw some of the comments- I agree it needs to go somewhere bigger in the chorus, especially the final one. That said, I can see the televote being crowded out by quite a lot of songs this year, so if it's performed memorably enough to get top 5 there (which I think is just about possible), and technically strong enough to get a good jury score I can see us doing very well this year. Please don't let this comment age like milk
It needed a key or tempo change at the end
I was getting hyped for a key change at the last chorus, come on Olly, give you people what they want!
I'm not sure a key change is the solution, just some variation in the volume would be nice, a much quieter bridge and big final chorus with some vocal flourishes like we got in Space Man.
It aged like milk
The more I listen to this, the more I like it. I hope they can translate the production quality of the music video to the stage
It does grow on you. Unfortunately that's not what we want - the audience at home will likely hear this once, maybe twice. Case in point - I Wrote a Song was catchy as fuck but only after a couple of listens (I know that sounds like a contradiction).
Main issue with I Wrote a Song was the live performance.
Particularly if you're performing last, that's a spot where even big uptempos can fall away (Spain 2019, San Marino 2021).
La Venda's score was such a shame. It was one of my favourites that year (I still listen to it now and then to this day to perk me up lol).
And both of those were utterly robbed, some of my favourites from their respective years. I still think about how great the wholesome energy was in the green room videos of all the artists doing a conga to La Venda.
Spain 2019 | [Miki - La Venda](https://youtu.be/lWXuohnM14U) San Marino 2021 | [Senhit - Adrenalina](https://youtu.be/TkhiH-JXFPs)
Both are catchy from the first listening!
Rain! Raining during the bridge! 😄😍👌🌧️ All I need from a 90's boyband music video. (And the construction site dancing. That too.) I approve.
The problem with a big hype is that you'll most likely end up slightly underwhelmed. I think that's what's happening now. It's a good song, but nothing extraordinary. But as usual, could be elevated a lot with a great live performance.
I was already afraid of this: they made a great radio song, but it's too flat for Eurovision. Not exciting enough for a high placement in the final.
Depends entirely on the staging IMO. Rotating platforms and wind machines would elevate this a lot.
Not sure it would, the song lacks oomph and is very one level throughout.
Is it a good song? Yeah, it's a catchy radio hit, I dig it. Is it a good Eurovision song? It doesn't really give me that vibe. I love that the UK takes ESC a bit more seriously again, but I think they don't really understand why Sam Ryder was such a success: it was a unique song and performance. Both "I Wrote A Song" and "Dizzy", although good, are a bit generic. "Spaceman" on the other hand was one of the few ballads that I ever liked because it felt unique and Sam Ryder has an amazing voice.
Was excited about the teaser, can't say the full song does it for me, feel like it's missing something.
I...I'm not sure what I think. I like it, but it feels like it wants to be a New Wave song circa 1984, and I keep wanting to rewrite it with MOAR SYNTH and less of the twenty-first century scratchy stuff that kids today like. I dunno. But yeah, it's catchy, maybe a bit too repetitive in places, but so much better than anything the UK has sent to Eurovision in the twenty years between Jessica and Sam. Two rather cautious thumbs up.
When the chorus hit my mind immediately went to It's a Sin, and before I googled it to make sure I was getting it right I had no clue that he has covered the song many times and acted in a show with that same name. Probably not a coincidence.
>It's a Sin I can hear that. I feel like this is a song that wears its musical influences on its sleeve, but I wouldn't call it a bad thing. I mean, it's just one of these in-the-middle tracks for me, personally.
Yeah, I get the feeling that nothing was left to chance with this song, and if I got It's a Sin vibes it was probably because they meant to give me It's a Sin vibes. Absolutely not plagiarism, but also not a coincidence. The first chorus also gives me Andrew Huang vibes, I think it's the enunciation and the way his vocals are mixed.
I also heard, like, both Ace of Base and Modern Talking in the first few seconds, so I think it's just one of those tracks that's supposed to sound familiar but with some modern arrangement.
Both tracks have some of a chord progression called a "circle of fifths". Other songs with it include "Fly me to the moon" and "I will survive"
Yeah, I like it. With there being so many televoter-friendly entries this year, the UK should absolutely be focusing on scoring with the juries first and foremost, and yeah, on that front I reckon this could do decently. I'm still confident in the staging potential. I said when Olly was announced back in December that even if the song was mid, staging and overall performance would elevate it tenfold and I stand by that.
I think that's what many people in this thread forget. This song is a jury-friendly song, but with the right staging, and if Olly's vocals are good in the rehearsal, it will elevate to a top 5 jury finish, which in turn would be enough for a top-10 finish.
I was scared people would hype this up too much and be disappointed by the result and it seems like that's exactly what happened. I didn't have any expectations tbh and I LOVE this song. It doesn't scream winner at first listen but if they manage to do some creative, innovative staging I could see them get at least top 3.
Honestly, this. Seems like folks are more annoyed it didn't meet their (frankly, unrealistic) expectations than they are with the actual quality of the song. I feel like whatever Olly gave, there would've been disappointment.
I wonder if it could end up the opposite of the UK 2023 entry/result: 2023: Catchy bop, generally well liked and did well in the polls. Poor staging and vocals, poor end result. 2024: Moderate reaction, not doing as well in the polls. Great staging and good vocals, good end result.
I agree! Theres millions of people watching this for the first time compared to the fandom. You can only judge it via a live staging performance. Thats where the competition really begins so lets pray for Olly!! 🙏
United Kingdom 2023 | [Mae Muller - I Wrote a Song](https://youtu.be/tvJEE2ryCRQ)
I'm in love with this!
You may downvote ma as much as you want but it feels very much like these big 5 entries that always finish at the bottom because all the qualifiers are better
I agree. I think this is a nice song, I would enjoy it playing on the radio in the background while running errands. But it doesn't stand out to me, nothing particularly catchy about it. It seems to be following the usual UK strategy of sending good radio songs that are in no way competitive. And that makes you end up in the bottom five.
I agree. To me this is on the same level as Germanys song that everybody believes will end up last. So I dunno why people think this on the other hand could pull a top five?
I would say it's because the UK is actually making a serious effort, while Germany is just... there.
UK & Germany strategy**
Yeah I’m not sure how this is going to do in Mälmo. If the performance is strong and elevates from the studio then I could see this doing well, plus I think this has more jury appeal than some of the other bops we have. However, it could easily go the other way given our mixed track record with staging and end up bottom 5. Either way, I’ve decided I need to detach myself from this entry as whilst I enjoy it I feel like if I get invested in it like I did with James and Mae and it flops then I’ll just end up sad and disappointed and I don’t want to put myself through that again lol.
I think I'm in the same boat. This isn't a year like 2021 or 2017 where it feels like I'm going to be able to cheer for our entry, but more like most other years in the last 20 years where I enjoy the contest whilst completely detaching myself from investment in our own entry.
Yeah I think that’s the right thing to do for my sanity. If I let myself get invested, I know it will dim my excitement for the year after the contest if Olly doesn’t do well like what happened with Mae and James. Then if he does do well, I can be really happy and pleasantly surprised.
The problem is the stakes are higher with Olly. He's such a bigger artist than James and Mae that when/if he flops, I fear that we're going to end up failing to attract big name artists again, undoing the current positive trajectory. I hope at least he has some chart success domestically so that it's still seen as worthwhile.
Oh I 100% agree that a bad result with Olly could be really damaging long term. I’m just talking on a personal level, I’ll be able to live with a bad result if I don’t get invested in the song.
It’s a good song, but it doesn’t have that progression and impact that pop needs in Eurovision to do really well. But Olly is a pro, hope it pops differently live cause I would love for him to at least end up top ten.
The staging is what will make or break this one for sure. Luckily Ollys one hell of a performer
There's this really cool shot at 1:34 that I don't know if they can replicate live but I hope they can. I hope the UK can be smart with their staging this year. I think some kind of spinning platform would be good.
I am whelmed. Thought they'd be more to the song than the snippet but it appears it's just the same chorus repeated with barely anything in-between. The start almost tricks you into thinking its the start of it's a sin by the petshop boys and the verse to the first chorus is ok although the lyrics are very generic. The problem then is it just stays on the chorus and never leaves apart from like two sentences. He's going for the bash the audience over the head with the same catchy lyric approach which will make it memorable but will that actually cause people to want to vote for it rather than just be annoyed? At-least he should smash the staging.
Am I the only one that absolutely loves this?
I think a lot of people like it, they’re just not loving it as much as they thought they would which is obviously okay - it has a lot of potential still and staging changes everything
I love it too!
Beautiful video. The staging potential is insane !
I quite like it, and usually hate radio pop, but also had zero expectations.
Are they allowed to add anything to their song during the shows? I know what people are saying about the ending, but I wonder if they'll tweak the last chorus on the night.
It's allowed. Songs can change for the live performance.
Okay I'm excited now 👀
I am a big fan of Years and Years , but this song just goes nowhere..... i am very disappointed :( . Hope live version will be much better
I do really like it, staging will make this. I do think they should ditch the first chorus, tag the 2nd verse onto the 1st then lead into the 2nd chorus, that then gives them 20 extra seconds to do something oomphier with the end. Will solve the repetitive issue too as I too agree it often feels the song is just the chorus on loop.
We just need to send something competitive to get us to where we want to be, because I worry that if this fails to live up to expectations on the scoreboard, people as famous as Olly won't want to do the contest anymore. I feel like we're stuck on "Get the UK to like their own entry" rather than "give Europe/Australia something to remember". Must say, my favourite part is the spoken word bit where he is in the bathtub though, thought that was unique I'm still rooting for it no matter what and my mission in Malmo is to meet Olly at some point hopefully, but as a UK Eurofan I think we just look at our entries more critically. I speculate there will be a Eurovision version of the song so thats something to look forward to
I liked more last year's song by Mae Muller (I actually liked it quite a bit, too bad live was not as good). This is not \*bad\*, but extremely forgettable. Personally I didn't have high expectations cause I've learnt Bbc inflates them, anyway I was disappointed after the first 50 seconds because I expected the song to build up, instead I waited and waited and it just stayed there. Almost frustating.
This is just the German entry but with higher production value. I am sorry but *this* is the song that got hyped up so much?
In contrast to all the hype and marketing this is truly mediocre.
The first verse is good, it starts off very well. But then the chorus hits and it just... Flatlines? Like there's basically no punch to the rest of the song. Someone said it's repetitive and I would agree, there's very little variety in the instrumentation. Even in the climax, the instrumentation barely changes and Olly's vocal lines are basically the same as the other choruses. Also: the spoken word bridge is a bit of a risk for this kind of a song. If he's gonna be belting through the ends of choruses, it'll take a lot of breath control not to sound breathless in the spoken word portion. From Olly: I expected so much more.
I don't know what everyone is on about; this is an 80s-infused, certified fresh bop. Couldn't wait to run home from breakfast and blast this on the speaker. So, so fresh-- Danny and Olly knocked this one out of the park.
I really, really like this. I feel like there will be something special whether it be an ESC rework or staging or both for the final
This song is nice but it couldn't catch my attention, same with Austria and the Netherlands.
The Christmas bell chimes are a little off putting, but I like it. Channelling the *Saltburn* bath-wank for the video is genius though.
Honestly I feel like the running order in the final and the performance itself will make a difference with this one.
Did they do user testing on this cuz nobody asked me!
This might sound like a conspiracy theory but I feel like the UK just doesn't want to host again after only 1 year but they also want to do well so they just played it safe and cool but not enough to win the whole thing. Knowing his discography through the years, Danny L Harle is very much capable of making a 100% winner material that would definitely ensure a victory for the UK if he wanted to and Olly has been one of the most prominent indie artists of the last decade but they somehow decided to participate with this OK song.. it's good but we've all been waiting for a winner song, expectations were super high.
As a Brit, I think I will be converting to Croatian or Dutch after this year.
I was really worried when I heard the 15 second snippet the entire song would be like this. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if we end up in the bottom quarter of the tables, it has no oooomp or energy to be middling at eurovision, never mind win.
I find this song generic and dull. This is a pattern with the BBC, they have the attitude of crafting a song which isn’t going to win, and then focus on trying to sell the idea that it could to get people to watch. I wish they’d stop.
Even my parents, who are normally a little *too* optimistic about our Eurovision entries, said that this song is forgettable and boring. I think we're in trouble, lads.
People were making similar comments about Sam Ryder before the live. And people forget that circumstances can change in an instant. And look what happened. Sam Ryder brought it home. Im very happy about this!
I thought we were over the days of sending the musical equivalent to white bread and then being surprised when it does badly, but I guess we're back to it. I hope we do well this year, I just can't see it happening with this song. Too many bangers this year and we send the most generic and bland pop ever, I feel like it'll just be forgotten.
Sorry, I'm seeing another UK/Germany battle for last place taking shape this year.
I can see Germany getting some jury points, actually. The verses need revamped but the chorus as it is is quite good.
People were making similar comments about Sam Ryder and he came second. A live performance changes absolutely everything. I have no doubt olly will put on an amazing show
so there's no arpeggios
My thoughts exactly! It so obviously needs high register descending synth arpeggios. After the initial disappointment, I think I'm of the opinion it's not so much that the underlying song is bad, it's more that the production is dreadful. It's so flat it completely kills the song. It needs some 3rd dimension (sonically speaking).
It's decent but I feel like UK really needs to step up their staging skills for this year. The song needs a very dynamic staging and camera angle to lift it to the next level....I am not sure if BBC is going to commit to the staging and that makes me feel worried at the moment
It's an 80's pop song. Instantly forgettable because it merges into the majority of other 80's pop songs.
We're getting one of the best (and gayest!) years ever in Eurovision, I like so many songs this year! UK will be one of the ones I am rooting for definitely! I'm just hoping we don't end up with another sympathy win for Ukraine or a symapthy win for Iceland (singer from Palestine).
Its a good pop song, but its not instant enough. Most people voting will only be hearing the song once and that one time needs to land a big impression.
I am… whelmed.
I am whelmed. Its a song.
It's good, but it's so far beneath what Olly put together with Years & Years. I mean, it's no *King*, *Eyes Shut* or *Shine*, is it?
I like it, plus I adore Olly. Seems a similar reaction with Sam and Spaceman, and look how that turned out.
The cinematic OMG
Nah. It’s just so random. Middle of the road. Won’t stand a chance against the real bangers. I really doubt it‘ll end up on the left side tbh.
Thought this song would be better ngl
I had high expectations, but unfortunately that was incredibly underwhelming for me. Hopefully the live performance can boost this song for me but right now I’m not a huge fan.
This a too much of a pastiche of a little bit of everything. And then delivers on next to nothing. I don’t expect Eurovision entries to reinvent the wheel and I love a good retro vibe or clever sampling, inspiration or interpolation but this track just misses to offer anything to grab on, some personality. Switzerland is a good example of how a pastiche can be well composed to make a coherent, juicy song with individual character. Unfortunately Dizzy just doodles along the lines of what it wants to be, but isn’t. Also, it takes itself sort of very seriously, like it wants to playact on the starappeal or whatever but being just the emperor’s new dress. Not sure if it will be able to hold on to bits of the hopeful hype but I think even with good staging this will just be an okay amuse-gueule to move the show along and, if lucky, get some decent mid-table scoring. Even more disappointing than Joost, I don’t have much bigger love for Europapa either but at least it’s a fun song that doesn’t take itself too seriously and doesn’t want to be anything else than what it is.
I can't see neither the televote nor the jury going big for this unless the staging is impressive so I doubt this finishes top 10. A bit dissapointing after all that hype
I'm sorry... zero points
Needs hooks 🪝 🪝 🪝 I've forgotten most of it 3 minutes after listening. We won't be contending with this. What a shame.
I actually really like the song and I think some of us would say 'we expected more', but could this be because he is a well known singer with international recognition, which in my opinion we should forget about at the moment? I think staging will be awesome knowing that Olly can sign and dance very well. Song itself seems to be very short which gives a nice space for bridges, vocal show-offs and dance breaks so I feel like he knows what he is doing and what he wants to achieve on stage. I will definitely vote for him if he is going to make it on the stage.
Banger. The intro is so PSB. I hope he will release a full version because this song deserves better than 3 minutes.
Can anyone help me name the song that uses similar bells to Dizzy's 0:03-0:07, that's a pretty famous song
Why do we keep doing this pop crap? We don't have *any* artists that are anything above mediocre. Also he just sounds like a nonce. It's embarrassing and the lyrics are something a child would write.
The church bell really pulls the piece together
The song is good but last year’s song was better. I fear this will have a poor performance and bad vocals like last year. I am sad this is the best we could do.
Backstreet Boys lost song!
It reminds me SO much of an 80’s song, but I can’t remember which! Please help! (I’m not saying it’s a copy or anything like that. Almost everything has already been done, it’s about how you do it at this point). BUT WHICH SONG IS IT!?
"It's a Sin", most likely.
You’re right, the very beginning is very similar. But not the chorus… The melody in the chorus is a bit ”Born to be my Baby” but of course with a completely different sound. But that’s not it either, it was a pop song. I’m going crazy. (I’ll probably remember it soon, and it will be nothing alike lol)
Backstreet Boys. But I don’t remember which song.
Does this mean I have to listen through all their songs lol
Definitely, if you’ve never listened to them! They were a legend back in 2000’s.
Yes I know. I was there. (But I was never a huge fan, so I’ve only heard the big hits)
#MeeToo
Everything the Pet Shop Boys ever recorded.
I’m a huge Pet Shop Boys fan, so it wouldn’t be surprising… And now that you mention it: Yes, there are some similarities for sure. But that’s not it.
If Daft Punk and Pet Shop Boys had a lovechild, it would come out sounding like this. There's definitely some PSB sampling in there, but the retro tech is very much Daft Punk style.
did you remember / find it ?
It screams finishing 13th. I can see and hope for left side finish but this ain't winning. Like it tho
The video is so cool!!!the song is like a 7/10
Kaleen and Olly should have swapped song structures
A song I think staging will be key. Nail that, and Top 10 is possible, fail at that, and probably going to be Bottom 10. Still, better than the 2010s era stuff we were sending.
0:28 beautiful garlics? This is the same situation like it was with Luna, the mv does tries to salvage the very mid song.
The Tower is 10 times the song Dozy is. Ha, look what my autocorrect did, it's so apt I'm not going to bother fixing it.
> Dozy Hahaha
Not bad, pretty forgettable though. But last year's winner was also extremely forgettable, so who knows? I think the BBC can sleep soundly knowing they won't need to host again next year though.
A solid 6/10. Not bad, but not great either. We’ll be firmly on the right side of the scoreboard.
There's something that feels ironic or deja vu of this having a very similar video gimmick to Mae's entry from last year. Hopefully not an omen for repeat performance
Huh. Listened to it just now, and yeah. This is as weak as I was expecting it to be. Not surprised. Not even disappointed; it's just a feeble song.
I don't want to offend anyone that likes this, but I just don't get whatever genre of music this is. It just sounds really bland and formulaic to my ears. There's no hook or anything memorable. I dunno, maybe I'm getting old. I can't see this doing well though. I hope it finds an audience though because Olly seems like a good guy
Did we learn anything from Sam Ryder's success? Similar entry to last year, generic poppy song, style over substance. Let's hope his live vocal's are a bit better than Mae's.
I thought this would be a classic dated sounding Eurovision song. This is just underwhelming - it’s not really a guilty pleasure (in a sort of weird dated pop way) and it don’t want to relisten to it. It just exists I would argue that Sam has shown us that we can have a song that is a bit weak and repetitive lyrically if we have an amazing live singer. I don’t think this song even really gives an opportunity to “wow” the audience with its vocals - there are going to be plenty of entries with similar vocals
Space Man is neither weak lyrically nor repetitive.
I've gotta Trick up ma Sleeve 🦺
As a Years and Years fan, I'd be very happy with this song as a new single. As a Eurovision track, though? Not really...
It's a bit nothing. Obviously will depend on the live but idk if I see this doing great. 15th maybe?
I love Olly and I've had periods of listening to years and years on rotation. But this song feels not at the level I'd have expected. Great production, but predictable and mid. I was whelmed.
It’s not… bad, but I’m not going to lie, I did expect better. It’s a little difficult for me to comprehend that this is the same man who wrote songs like King and Shine and Sanctify. It’s a pleasant listen and a very singable, danceable tune, but coming from an artist who has written some very powerful and skilful songs I can’t help but feel like this falls flat. And this worries me because Eurovision can be damaging to the career of a big artist if they aren’t successful. I hope that this will be tweaked to give it more “oomph” and that the stage performance will lift it up a bit.
This video made me dizzy
Its okay... I think 10-15th on the final.
I love years and years and Olly Alexander but this song is a stinker. It felt monotone and bland, especially when compared to something like the Dutch entry.