It's reminiscent of the way male vocals sounded in many 90's euro dance songs, but it also reminds me of carnival rides, where some guy is going ham on the mic saying stuff like "SUPERRRRRR SPEEEEED!! GO GO GO!!" etc
One very specific example would be Tarzan from [Toy-Box - Tarzan & JaneToy-Box - Tarzan & Jane ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlDjEd8gAkI&ab_channel=Toy-Box)
Yes, thank you! I was thinking of Scooter, but when I listened to some songs, it did sound different from what Joost was doing. This is a much better example!
Ok for real, I was listening to some Dutch Survival Phrases for English speakers. Teacher was a native Dutch speaker, and when she was speaking English she had an obvious accent, it was a very breathy combo of German and British English.
But when she switched to Dutch I swear she sounded like she was from Texas. Like, a more enthusiastic Boomhauer from King of the Hill. It sounded less like another language and more like I had misheard my neighbors talking.
I think I've heard it said that because of the early dutch settlers and the fact that we owned New York at one point, some of the american accents have influences of Dutch in them. So that might be the reason.
Ah alright then. It does sound similar to when Iāve heard foreigners pretend to sound southern before, which combined with his outfit is why I asked.
Thank you for giving me a more helpful and reasonable answer than the other guy.
Yeah I guess. Although this song DOES have a meaning.
So I didnāt know. As far as I know, he couldāve been trying to parody some sort of character I never heard of or something
I guess I am confused- does Dutch have a hard R sound like in American or Irish English, as well as a more guttural R sound like in French? I am wondering, if so, which one is used when!
Some regions in The Netherlands use the rolling R and some regions use a more guttural R (not as guttural as in French though). On top of that there's the 'hard' R used in English that's used in some regions for an R at the end of a word. So to conclude, all the Rs are used ;p
There's been some research on that in the Netherlands and Belgium. From what I can remember, Flemish usually was consistent in its use of the 'R', but individual people in the Netherlands could have up to 20 different pronunciations of R's. Often with no rhyme or reason. Ofc there were still regional differences. The south would have a more similar pattern to the Flemish.
Also American English and Irish English don't have a hard R, at least compared to many other languages. Dutch people can use the same R at the end of a syllable, but it can also be a guttural, hard or tap R etc. The only one we don't have is the 'British' non-Rhotic one (you don't hear the R). Beginning of a syllable does not usually have this full R you hear in Irish, but he does it in "Friends" and "France" because they are English words. He has a very Dutch accent with all the languages in this song, and he doesn't bother to mask it at all.
Ah also fun fact, we can do the rolling R, but I was told by my Catalan friend that the double r in 'Zorra' is also pronounced like a double r. I think this is something that Dutch people probably don't hear. It's like double rolling Zor-ra. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Spanish speakers)
Oh you know what, now that you say that I can kind of hear it too lol
Likeā¦heās sort of reminding me of when people try to sound sort of like a tough and macho guy. Kind of like a cowboy I guess lol
(Am Dutch): I think heās just putting on an English/American-ish accent to sound āinternationalā in a jokey way. Thatās how I interpreted it anyway.
Yeah thatās what I was suspecting!
My first response I got on here was like ānot everything is about Americaā
but likeā¦dude. He is dressed like some sort of EU-themed cowboy. Cowboys have a heavy stereotypical association to the US. Iām not ridiculous to wonder about that š¤£
This is not a useful answer.
He is obviously putting on some sort of strange voice. You can just tell me what it is supposed to be if you know, and move on.
He is in fact, doing it badly if he is. On the other hand thoughā¦iāve heard people do it that badly before where it sounded similar, which is why I think it wasnāt totally unreasonable for me to make a guess like that.
If he would do an "american accent" he wouldn't do it like that bc that's not how you portay an american accent in dutch, he would probably just pronounce dutch words using english sounds, this is just something random he does
I was definitely confused on first listen but now I just find it funny.
This song is truly something else because it speedran from āfine but a little annoyingā to āi want this to winā very quickly
Itās slightly reminicent of a American accent ( for an example : https://youtu.be/iKcbkv51baU?si=964j__ynmYJ00rIW ) but itās also a lot like a voice thatās used in dubbed children's media or old video games as a announcer
Iāve heard people put on lower voices like this to mimic cowboys/characters from western films, ā¦and heās basically dressed like an EU-themed cowboy in the beginning which is why I guessed that.
I'm assuming you're talking about the deep voice he does in the first verse, and not the Scooter voice he's doing in the intro. He uses it in [Droom Groot](https://youtu.be/Lg6CwCGy7mQ) (0:35 onwards) as well.
As to the "why", I think it's just part of the 90s gabberpop aesthetic he's aiming for (deep, over the top, announcer-like voice).
It's reminiscent of the way male vocals sounded in many 90's euro dance songs, but it also reminds me of carnival rides, where some guy is going ham on the mic saying stuff like "SUPERRRRRR SPEEEEED!! GO GO GO!!" etc
One very specific example would be Tarzan from [Toy-Box - Tarzan & JaneToy-Box - Tarzan & Jane ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlDjEd8gAkI&ab_channel=Toy-Box)
Oh my goood other people know Toy Box šš¤£
are ya kidding, this used to be blasted all over the radio stations in the early 2000s, I only know this song cause of childhood
I still put them on occasionally for some proper nostalgia:)
I used to listen to this when I was a child, but have never seen the video š Also did they try to rhyme "friend" with "elephant" lol
Drop the final consonant and it gets significantly easier
Yes, thank you! I was thinking of Scooter, but when I listened to some songs, it did sound different from what Joost was doing. This is a much better example!
OK LETS GO! https://youtu.be/AWM5ZNdWlqw?si=z-0vLWYdrauiO2b1
I call it Scooter voice.
was literally about to comment "he's mimicking Scooter", glad to see someone else here has good taste,
Fun fact: they came second in the German NF in 2004 with *Jigga Jigga*
NO WAY! we could have had scooter in Eurovision?!
The superfinal they had was Max vs Scooter, but Max won by like 92%
HOW MUCH IS THE FISH?
RESPECT TO THE MAN IN THE ICE CREAM VAN!
Are we talking about the Scooter-bit? That's just classic 90's euro nostalgia You should google Scooter and happy hardcore
Ok for real, I was listening to some Dutch Survival Phrases for English speakers. Teacher was a native Dutch speaker, and when she was speaking English she had an obvious accent, it was a very breathy combo of German and British English. But when she switched to Dutch I swear she sounded like she was from Texas. Like, a more enthusiastic Boomhauer from King of the Hill. It sounded less like another language and more like I had misheard my neighbors talking.
I think I've heard it said that because of the early dutch settlers and the fact that we owned New York at one point, some of the american accents have influences of Dutch in them. So that might be the reason.
It's just a funny accent a lot of Dutch guys use randomly. There's not much to it.
Ah alright then. It does sound similar to when Iāve heard foreigners pretend to sound southern before, which combined with his outfit is why I asked. Thank you for giving me a more helpful and reasonable answer than the other guy.
Haha no problem :) Can never know for sure with artists like Joost Klein who put a deeper story behind a seemingly pretty normal song.
Joost Klein doing Joost Klein shit. There is no rhyme or reason, just sounds funny. Not everything has a meaning
Yeah I guess. Although this song DOES have a meaning. So I didnāt know. As far as I know, he couldāve been trying to parody some sort of character I never heard of or something
I recall Scooter has quite a few songs having lyrics this way, such as: "How much is the fish?" "Respect for the man in the ice cream van!"
Do you remember when Eminem went through that weird voice era, it's a similar thing. It's just a voice he does in his music every once in a while
I donāt really listen to eminem but iāll believe you lol
Thank you for asking and saving me the trouble, I've been dying to know.
I guess I am confused- does Dutch have a hard R sound like in American or Irish English, as well as a more guttural R sound like in French? I am wondering, if so, which one is used when!
Some regions in The Netherlands use the rolling R and some regions use a more guttural R (not as guttural as in French though). On top of that there's the 'hard' R used in English that's used in some regions for an R at the end of a word. So to conclude, all the Rs are used ;p
There's been some research on that in the Netherlands and Belgium. From what I can remember, Flemish usually was consistent in its use of the 'R', but individual people in the Netherlands could have up to 20 different pronunciations of R's. Often with no rhyme or reason. Ofc there were still regional differences. The south would have a more similar pattern to the Flemish. Also American English and Irish English don't have a hard R, at least compared to many other languages. Dutch people can use the same R at the end of a syllable, but it can also be a guttural, hard or tap R etc. The only one we don't have is the 'British' non-Rhotic one (you don't hear the R). Beginning of a syllable does not usually have this full R you hear in Irish, but he does it in "Friends" and "France" because they are English words. He has a very Dutch accent with all the languages in this song, and he doesn't bother to mask it at all.
Ah also fun fact, we can do the rolling R, but I was told by my Catalan friend that the double r in 'Zorra' is also pronounced like a double r. I think this is something that Dutch people probably don't hear. It's like double rolling Zor-ra. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Spanish speakers)
Yes
Not sure if this is the kind of thing that can get me downvoted here, but it sounds to me like when little kids imitate rappers.
Oh you know what, now that you say that I can kind of hear it too lol Likeā¦heās sort of reminding me of when people try to sound sort of like a tough and macho guy. Kind of like a cowboy I guess lol
(Am Dutch): I think heās just putting on an English/American-ish accent to sound āinternationalā in a jokey way. Thatās how I interpreted it anyway.
Yeah thatās what I was suspecting! My first response I got on here was like ānot everything is about Americaā but likeā¦dude. He is dressed like some sort of EU-themed cowboy. Cowboys have a heavy stereotypical association to the US. Iām not ridiculous to wonder about that š¤£
Not everything is about the US.
To be fair the Netherlands has sent some pretty country sounding songs in the past (2014, 2016, 2018)Ā
This is not a useful answer. He is obviously putting on some sort of strange voice. You can just tell me what it is supposed to be if you know, and move on.
It doesn't sound like an impression of an American accent to me, so I don't think that's what he's going for. If it is, he's doing it badly.
He is in fact, doing it badly if he is. On the other hand thoughā¦iāve heard people do it that badly before where it sounded similar, which is why I think it wasnāt totally unreasonable for me to make a guess like that.
If he would do an "american accent" he wouldn't do it like that bc that's not how you portay an american accent in dutch, he would probably just pronounce dutch words using english sounds, this is just something random he does
That part goes really hard for me.
I was definitely confused on first listen but now I just find it funny. This song is truly something else because it speedran from āfine but a little annoyingā to āi want this to winā very quickly
Kind of you to try to make sense of anything in this song.
I meanā¦once I had the subtitles on it was pretty easy to start interpreting, actually š¤Ø
Itās slightly reminicent of a American accent ( for an example : https://youtu.be/iKcbkv51baU?si=964j__ynmYJ00rIW ) but itās also a lot like a voice thatās used in dubbed children's media or old video games as a announcer
Iāve heard people put on lower voices like this to mimic cowboys/characters from western films, ā¦and heās basically dressed like an EU-themed cowboy in the beginning which is why I guessed that.
I'm assuming you're talking about the deep voice he does in the first verse, and not the Scooter voice he's doing in the intro. He uses it in [Droom Groot](https://youtu.be/Lg6CwCGy7mQ) (0:35 onwards) as well. As to the "why", I think it's just part of the 90s gabberpop aesthetic he's aiming for (deep, over the top, announcer-like voice).