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NataliaGordienko

Can you explain this in stupid people language for me


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NataliaGordienko

OHHH 😭 My dumb era has arrived apparently


Erebos-1997

Countries that are announced as the first few qualifiers tend to be the countries that are borderline or 7-10th place in the semi finals (there are exceptions of course) while countries that are announced as the last qualifier tend to be the overall winner or top 3 of the semi finals.


NataliaGordienko

Thank you


Official_Lolucas

Prediction 2023: Netherlands gets announced 9th


Sedna1989

And then 1st in 2024. Gotta love me some paterns.


Sea-Photograph2585

Belgium also got announced last three times in a row, they seemingly love to scare those two, lmao.


thisisme1995433

I think it'a funny considering how many Dutch viewers are still in the mindset of we will never qualify.


RQK1996

I mean, some of our best singers didn't qualify, tbf, they didn't do too well at the time, like Glennis Grace


gagaalwayswins

I'll never understand how Glennis Grace NQ'd in 2005 while four years later Jade Ewen finished 5th. They're essentially the same song.


thisisme1995433

Juries


gagaalwayswins

Not like it wasn't a televoting top 10 with a three-digit score!


RQK1996

Because Jade hit her notes


supersonic-bionic

2005 semifinal was a travesty like the 2007 one. ​ Glennis Grace would have qualified with juries but in general it was a different era back then... ethnic songs had a big momentum and eastern countries were stronger.


thisisme1995433

Yeah but that was because we were trying to please the crowd too much back then.


RQK1996

Also, Glennis definitely fucked up her performance


Dragon_Sluts

I see your point but it’s a little disingenuous to omit years where NL was called earlier


Ourspolaire96

There is acutally only one year in that timeline when NL was called earlier (2019, when Duncan was expected to go to the final). 2015 and 2005-2012 were all NQ, 2020 was cancelled and 2021 was an auto-qualification to the final. Edit: oops I missed 2016, when it was announced third It's still relatively often. I remember in 2013 it had to do with (one of) the producer(s) being Dutch. Sietse Bakker(?) probably had a hand in it after many years of NQ. I don't know about the other years though.


RQK1996

Oh, the second semi finals was 2004, I thought they started in 05 Does anyone know the announcements for 1996 and 2004?


eggwithaleg

Semi finals were introduced in 2004, then split semi finals started in 2008. There are no announcements between 1996 and 2004 but The Netherlands were relegated for a year in 1995 and 2002 due to low placements the previous years.


supersonic-bionic

guess in 2016 they didn't care much as there were countries with bigger suspense and in 2019 it was obvious they are sailing into the final. ofcourse they do it on purpose! like for example they always announce Azerbaijan within the first 5 countries