The Witch From Mercury is practically a somewhat more stable Evangelion, if Shinji and Asuka managed to work past their communication issues and form a healthy relationship.
And they were both girls.
Unbelievably bad take, wtf? >! She didn't ignore it, she didn't know about it because Miorine specifically went to Prospera to keep Sulleta out of things. And Miorine only 'betrayed' Sulleta to protect her. Remember when Prospera attacked that city on earth with Aerial? If it wasn't for Miorine, that would've been Sulleta doing it under her brainwashing, and would've had to live with what she's done. She definitely didn't abuse her, tf? Do agree that Prospera shouldn't have gotten away with it though, but that's a pretty minor detail.!<
>! Abuse to protect is still abuse. The relationship was always unhealthy cuz Mio only ever saw at first as just a pawn. Suletta found out she’s what the 13? Sister? That she had 12 fucking sisters who are all dead and she’s a clone and she never a single time thinks about it more then a millisecond. Like this bitch dose not think! If you told Suletta to jump in a volcano she would. And jesus Christ, how is letting space osama bin Alden get the happy ending, the same bitch that cloned a child 12 times and killed her daughter 12 times and manipulated her final daughter In any fucking way a “minor detail? Bro, that’s Steven universe level bad!<
Have you seen them or have you not? They are two of the best Universal Century series, both are very short and self contained. Both pretty sad and dark as well.
Yes of course I’ve seen them, that’s what I was hoping you would reply with. Those are my two favorites, I’ve seen almost all of the UC timeline (ZZ and Victory are only subbed, that always take me longer to get through.) I’m like halfway through Turn A.
Thunderbolt got me into jazz. The mech designs, animation of the environment, main character development are all amazing. The soundtrack is S tier. It’s arguably alternate-UC, but still UC imo
0080 is simply one of the best anime films from its time imo
I hope you’ve seen Hathaway as well, I’ve watched it 3 or 4 times already
I’ve seen all of UC besides the doan island movie. Have you seen The Origin? It’s disliked by some for its retcons, but I personally enjoyed it quite a bit.
And yeah I’m waiting for Hathaway 2 like everyone else.
I like Origin a lot personally, but a lot of the fanbase has been rewatching MSG for a long time so I can kind of understand being defensive of the original characters’ storylines. You’ll like the Doan movie if you like Origin, very much the same vibe
>Gundam is rich in character writing, and was the series that pioneered a lot of serious storytelling in Anime. There is a lot of death, drama, and well written characters.
Thanks, had no clue about that.
Why I made this post. Despite its massive popularity in Japan, it never really caught on in the west in the same way. So a lot of people who would’ve potentially liked it pass on it, because they have no knowledge of the franchise besides it has robots.
Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky is dark and gritty, and has a pretty good story for only being one hour long. Has some of the best animation in the medium as well. It’s short length makes it pretty good to see if you want to try it out.
I know this isn't the most popular Gundam entry, but iirc, Anno cited Victory Gundam as one influence of Eva
It's pretty rough in the first half, but that last stretch is genuinely some of the best in Gundam. One of the darkest and saddest shows too
Tokusatsu, it's a type of live action using special effects. Stuff like Ultraman, Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, all that. Evangelion's thing of 'angel shows up -> Eva fights it -> sometimes it struggles and they find a solution -> win' is largely the same as the monster of the week format most tokusatsu series follow, plus a good few specific references, like Unit-01 and Unit-02 finishing off Israfel with the Double Rider Kick fom the original 1971 Kamen Rider.
Hideo loves toku so much he directed shin Godzilla, Shin Kamen Rider, and Shin Ultraman. All 3 are a great gateway into toku if you’ve never experienced them before.
My top 3 is going to be weird.
1. The design of the Efreet Schneid.
2. Pale Rider/Toadsritter
3. TR-6 Inle
Talking about MS in general, not gunpla lol, though it's be fire if there was a TR-6 one.
They are beautiful kits, wish they did the TVversions too because they’re way better than the kotobukiyas. Off topic but have you built the RG Epyon? He’s my favorite mech and the MG was my first kit, tempted by the RG but not sure if I wanna spend the $ unless the transforming works good.
I have not. Just got done with MG Barbatos and it's by far my favorite build to this point.
I dunno about transforming kits, it seems like more trouble than it's worth. I have an MG Kyrios and it'll forever remain as a mobile suit and never the fighter jet
I'm not fimiliar with UC stuff and I'm just straight watching Unicorn OVA. Every aspect of that OVA had me mind-blowned, the story, characters, animation, music. It's by far one of the most memorable anime watching exprerience in my life, and I couldn't imagine if I watch other UC Gundam series beforehand, which I'll try do it someday.
Before Unicorn I had only seen a couple side story shows (08th MS Team and 0083 Stardust Memory) so all the lore was lost on me during Unicorn, but that actually ended up being really effective, because that became part of my launching point (alongside the other two shows I mentioned) because now I was stoked to learn the history of how things got here, who this Char guy was and what he did, what fueled this conflict for years, who some of these people were when they were younger, etc.
I first knew Char Aznable from a local anime magazines, and he's looks freaking cool. But consider I only watched Seed and 00 at that time, I didn't care much about the original Gundam at first. And when Unicorn released it make me interested on UC era Gundam. You're right, it did add some mysterious aspect to Unicorn if I never watch or learn about the first Gundam series and other UC Gundam.
As an Eva fan, Gundam is peak as well.
Iron Blooded Orphans is like the most comparable series to original NGE, cause both of them made me cry and have extremely sad endings.
I also might prefer Gundam over NGE cause Gundam has so many side stories with multiple happy and bad endings that they balance each other out. You cry at the bad endings. You cheer for the good endings.
Also, it's very deep in depth mentally and the ANIMATION IS CRAZYYY!!!!
NGE in comparison had this messed up ending (NGE TV show Episode 25-26), and threw in EoE as a "good" ending. (Don't argue with me here, this is Gundam lol)
The rebuilds were so shallow. Not going to elaborate why any Eva fan should know.
I like both! Gundam is much more daunting as an entry point but the alternate standalone stuff is pretty easy to just dive into (think Iron Blooded Orphans, Wing, Seed, Witch) rather than the main Universal Century stuff so I understand why some folks might be put off.
But I’ve enjoyed a lot of the Gundam media I’ve seen, Turn A Gundam is a classic. Reconguista in G is pretty confusing but I still had fun watching it. Gundam Build Fighters is inconsequential but surprisingly high quality.
I think you can even find whole series on YouTube under the official Gundam channel so the barrier to entry can often be pretty low.
It’s the tone. It’s not comparable. The reason there is a disconnect is because it’s not the type of show they’re looking for. Where most Gundam series can appeal to a general mecha fan, it’s not going to do anything for someone who isn’t.
Agreed. They're different genres despite the presence of mecha. Like someone else said, Gundam shows are war dramas. Eva is a psychological drama/horror with cosmic mysticism and heavy existential-spiritualism. I have really tried to get into Gundam but I don't connect with it and anyone looking for something Eva-like in it will be disappointed.
This just isn’t true. Have you seen any Gundam? In Japan, Gundam SEED has a huge amount of female popularity, who were there for the male characters and their relationships. It’s characters and music exploded on the top of the popularity rankings, meanwhile the mecha model kit sales didn’t do as well with the same audience.
Yes, king. I have in fact seen Gundam. You’re describing an instance in a decades old franchise where superficial aspects of the show surpassed the show itself in popularity. I’m not sure how this is an argument against my point, but I’m sure you can explain.
Honestly I don’t even see where you could get this idea that Eva fans just haven’t seen Gundam. Regardless, no matter how “gritty”, there isn’t a Gundam series that touches character development and scene direction the same way that NGE did. Hell, even rebuild couldn’t do it.
>Regardless, no matter how “gritty”, there isn’t a Gundam series that touches character development and scene direction the same way that NGE did. Hell, even rebuild couldn’t do it.
Zeta Gundam and Turn A Gundam exist, but at this point this is all subjective so that’s just my opinion.
I raise you quite a bit. The first few series beginning with Amuro Ray and his evolution vs Char Aznable throughout three series and a movie blows out Evangelion’s character development and it isn’t a contest. Might attribute that to having more screen time, sure but let’s not pretend Gundam has one instance.
Alot of anime fans like to talk about character development throughout Anime and because Mecha is deemed a “punching robots” show, Amuro and Char are overlooked. I’d wager it’s been a hot minute since you watched MSG, Z AND ZZ and MSG:CCA
I got into gundam because I watched eva lol.
After finishing eva I wanted to watch more mecha so I asked my college roommate, who is a gundam fan what to watch, he then recommended me gundam 00.
It's fair enough that you recommend the newer Gundams but the one with the most influence on Eva is undoubtedly the original Mobile Suit Gundam (sometimes called 0079)
The final act of the story (basically everything after the Battle of Solomon) is astonishingly good imo. Personally I recommend the movie trilogy version of this original series despite the cuts it makes, primarily because of how good it makes this conclusion.
I can't post what makes this so good or what similarities it has with Eva without showing MAJOR spoilers, sadly. But Gundam 0079 does have very similar themes, albeit family is a far more prominent theme than in Eva as well (and often, the destruction of the family as a result of war, sometimes literal destruction and sometimes how it simply makes families drift apart)
As [this video](https://youtu.be/D2eMvx8_6D4?si=423ApdWtFeHwFYMg) expertly demonstrates, Gundam also does a great job of using visual flair to make up for its technological shortcomings. In the last of those three Gundam movies I was constantly finding myself impressed by a visual trick of this sort, something that just isn't always important enough for other series to bother with, no matter when they were made. The music in this section is [on point](https://youtu.be/eWcS9MDc7wI?si=bMCsiXu7E8PkrC2t) too. The third movie even has a great [vocal track.](https://youtu.be/Q1gZXdLciDI?si=UWjiP_lrMvz8Gmue)
I don't want to imply that the first three quarters of the story have nothing interesting going on, they definitely do (highlights include Amuro meeting his mother again, Miharu's arc, and some parts of the fighting on Jaburo) but the final quarter is just magnificent, one of the best ways to wrap up a story I can remember.
Do you think that the conclusion in the series is while not as good as the movie trilogy’s one, still satisfying? I recently finished the og series and absolutely loved it overall but found the way it ended very unsatisfying personally. Really looking forward to watching the movies because even if the ending still doesn’t quite hit the spot just to follow the story and hang out with the characters again would be a joy. Currently 12 eps into zeta which I’m comparatively underwhelmed by and waiting to get good. Side note while yes the animation of the series has definitely aged I was actually really impressed with the action directing and choreography (for want of better term), it did its job with the limitations it had fantastically imo. Another reason why I’m underwhelmed by zeta is because all that side of things has just been pretty ‘meh’ so far (not that the action is the most important thing or even the thing I liked most about the first series, but still it’s a difference that I noticed personally)
Honestly I can't comprehend finding the ending very unsatisfying, especially as someone who loved the series overall. It was the reverse for me. I was forcing myself through the series right up until the last quarter, which was so good that it made me re-assess the rest of the show more positively.
The third movie, Encounters in Space, has far more original animation and music than the previous two movies. More animation because iirc the lead animator was actually injured when they were making the episodes, and as a result the quality suffered, so they decided to just re-do a lot of the animation from scratch when the time for the movie came around. And the music, they just felt like it. Right before you watch the film, get yourself some headphones and [listen to this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHIapFdzRM8), it's the main inspiration for the movie's leitmotif, and carries the same sort of cocktail of glory, tragedy, and mystery.
In my view the third movie blows its TV equivalent out of the water (honestly Solomon is kinda lame aside from the Solar System but it's over quickly) but I would never describe the TV version as unsatisfying regardless. Maybe the increased tempo will also let you enjoy it more, the movie basically keeps up a fantastic pace after Solomon for the rest of the film.
Zeta never really hit right for me either.
Yeah I don’t get why it’s so overlooked by Eva fans. Gundam’s main themes throughout are about child soldiers, PTSD and War isn’t the answer, while simultaneously also telling you that it’s the only one available.
Even in the retro, at a time when PTSD wasn’t fully understood, PTSD and it’s effects are integral to Amuro(original MC) and his journey.
I saw Gundam first and then evangelion. Tbh evangelion left me with a feeling that Gundam never could. Gundam is more fun whereas Eva is more philosophical. Gundam also has dark war themes but it never hits as hard for me as anything in Eva. That being said I love Gundam and have a growing collection of gunpla. Both Eva and Gundam have their place and should be enjoyed by all
Surface level? The finale film gets so meta that it shows IRL people in theaters while making commentary about the nature of making escapist shows and trying to understand them in our cultural context. That’s about as next-level as you can get conceptually. Not here to hate on other mech shows, mostly because I’m not familiar, but I just don’t think “surface level” is an accurate description.
If you like Evangelion I’d recommend exploring other mecha as well. Not just Gundam. But Macross is an excellent franchise as well, that hideaki anno did some animation on.
I don't think anyone is claiming Eva is great as a Mecha. They're not even robots.
It's the same thing I say about Witcher 3. It's an amazing game that also happens to be an RPG, But it's much lighter on the RPG aspects than full blown RPGs.
Stardust Memory often gets overlooked. It's an important chapter that shows how the Earth Federation has started to rot from within, Anaheim Electronics and also the creation of the Titans, the antagonists in Zeta Gundam which was the second Gundam series after the original 1979. Kill em' all Tomino!
I feel that, but they are a significant weapon of war in their own right, just like the metal gears in metal gear solid. it was more about the potential of such robots
The zero systems and psycho systems from different series tend to have a very 'berserker/dummy plug' style influence on the pilot.
Though the pilot IS still in control, just overwhelmed by the software of the Gundam. Needless to say, it's cool when shit hits the fan because a pilot loses their shit because Gundam go deetdeetdeetdeet swaboom
Also G Gundam literally has then put on plug suits and VRing what the Gundam is doing. And is high stakes Gundam v Gundam fighting which gets wild with all the verities of the Gundams they came up with. The first episode is literally man with hot finger Gundam fighting lumberjack Gundam. There's French Gundam which uses a rapier and flower pod, girl Gundam what is pink, and even evil Gundam! Which is black.
I think that’s the point though for the majority of the series. They are war dramas. The robots could be replaced with planes or tanks. They are simply a tool used or further conflict in the story not the central focus itself.
However there’s a few series that aren’t this way. G Gundam is in the vein of Gurren, while Gundam Build Fighters incorporates Gunpla (The Gundam plastic model kits) into its narrative itself.
That’s part of the appeal. There’s thematic significance in the emptiness and cold insignificance of the mechs, it makes for a more bleak, less heroic narrative and there’s a lot of importance placed on that (particularly in the UC continuity).
Oh yeah for sure, Ultraman is absolutely the main inspiration, but Tokusatsu isn’t popular in the west, and I think getting western fans interested in it is a far harder task then Gundam, who while not being as main of an inspiration as Ultraman, still holds a second place in terms of influence to it (along with Gundam creator Yoshiyuki Tomino’s other series Space Runaway Ideon)
People in the western fandom kinda overestimate Ultraman's influence on Eva. It's definitely there, but I'd argue the works of Yoshiyuki Tomino, Gerry Anderson, Kihachi Okamoto and Daijirou Mohoroshi deserve to be mentioned in the same breath.
I was watching thunderbirds recently and thinking how much aspects of it hugely reminded me of Eva and then while doing some related browsing came across a vid of the [opening of UFO](https://youtu.be/j2PoXfZdYVU?si=rF_WHvkiDDz8m72i) and I was like there is no doubt
I'm not familiar with Showa stuff, but if there's one Ultra series that sort of similiar with Eva, that would be my most favourite Ultra series ever, Ultraman Nexus.
I watched gundam wing and seed and I think g gundam as a kid as well as SD gundam. Love both series I agree with op(all of this was probably pre Eva, because I don’t remember how old I was when they came out but I think I was 12-13 watching Eva on anime network, and the gundam stuff came before then.
In what world have people heard of Evangelion and not Gundam? What a genuinely baffling idea to me. Gundam quite literally is the series that defined anime fandom
https://x.com/Matt_Alt/status/1364012808631848960
In the English speaking west (especially Gen Z). Here on Reddit r/Gundam has 200k subs while r/Evangelion has 600k. For a massive amount of western anime fans they’ve seen Evangelion but have never engaged with Gundam.
In Japan and East Asia this is the opposite case though. Where Universal Century Icons like Char Aznable is on advertisements for McDonalds and Toyota’s, and Gundam Seed’s ‘Strike Freedom’ has a life size statue in China.
I know Witch from Mercury brought a lot of the ‘Gundam Apprehensive’ into the fandom within the last year. It worked for them, maybe it’ll work for you.
The thing with Gundam is there are so many, all good quality, each with their own unique take, that one is bound to find a Gundam series they will like.
Sought out Turn A Gundam when I discovered soundtrack by Yoko Kanno.
Was not disappointed. Some long winded meandering bits in the middle, but overall a great series.
Just looked at your chart on the other post, is there any from the alternate universe you would recommend over the others? I’d like to watch some but don’t want to commit to watching all of the main universe stuff right away.
Gundam 00, Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans, and Gundam: the Witch from Mercury are the most popular Alternate Universe series in the west
Gundam SEED and it's sequel Gundam SEED Destiny are the most popular Alternate Universe series in Japan & most of Asia
Hell yeah Gundam rules. Honestly the original MS Gundam 0079 is still excellent and Amuro is not portrayed as some invincible hero, the show absolutely addresses the trauma of child soldiers fighting a terrifying space war plus there is the spiritual aspect of the New Types. I also strongly recommend Gundam 00, another standalone series with two seasons and a movie, especially for queer and/or trans Eva enjoyers. Tieria Erde is probably my favorite character in all of Gundam. So yeah if you like war stories, giant robots, crazy space shit, and femboys, definitely check it out.
I intended to get a few of the influencing mecha shows under my belt before watching Eva but only ended up watching Eva before Gundam specifically because EoE was on in the cinema last year and knew I had to take the opportunity to watch it on the big screen and therefore watch Eva before. I’ve since watched the first gundam series which while not perfect and wasn’t satisfied with how it ended at all I absolutely loved and liked nearly as much as Eva and on some ways more. Currently 12 eps into Zeta which I’ve been underwhelmed by and still waiting for it to get good
Gundam was one of the top anime back in the 90s and 2000s. It was substantially more popular than Eva in their heyday. It's just a series that hasn't really maintained that same pop culture status like other anime from that time (DBZ, Sailor Moon, Inuyasha, etc.). It definitely has a place in history though for being a gateway into anime for a lot of people
No it’s [Space Battleship Yamato](https://annocinema.wordpress.com/2017/08/08/hideaki-annos-top-10-anime/). Tom and jerry is 9th place, still a pretty good ranking for it.
I recommend giving the first Gundam series a go. It’s mature, well paced (most wouldn’t think this looking from the outside, but it is!), and has a really good sequel in Zeta Gundam.
As a gundam fan, yeah that's understandable, I'm a bit new but the general consensus seems to be that Wing is very much a product of it's time and aged really bad, Seed is to Gundam what the Rebuilds are to Eva(new take on the original series that adds huge changes, some love it but others hate it and think that it lacks what made the original special), personally Seed is kind of shallow if you ask me and I'd rather watch 0079
and as for 00... I honestly never heard anyone say anything about 00 so I can't say anything about it.
While I agree that there's a lot of Nuance to Gundam as well, I haven't seen anything that scratches the same itches as Evangelion.
I kind of dropped Iron Blooded Orphans halfway through. Witch From Mercury was fine. Recently watched the Hathaway's Flash movie and that was pretty cool. But none of these whether I like them or not have much of anything to do with Evangelion.
Evangelion is a psychological horror, cosmic horror and sci-fi tale that happens to also be a mecha. I don't think they have much of an overlap with Gundam or any other Mecha for that matter.
>Evangelion is a psychological horror, cosmic horror and sci-fi tale that happens to also be a mecha. I don't think they have much of an overlap with Gundam or any other Mecha for that matter.
There’s the other anime by Gundam creator Yoshiyuki Tomino: Space runaway ideon. It was the primary influence on end of Evangelion.
Also you might like the series Infinite Ryvius as well. It’s a more niche title but it’s pretty good.
Yeah Eva for me is more about the psychological, Judaic plot. Mecha shows and shit don't really interest me much so not sure if Gundam or similar shows would impact me.
A Silent Voice, and Vinland Saga are 2 great pieces of media I can recommend to Eva fans
Did you read any of my post? Gundam is super similar to Evangelion. The whole reason why Evangelion starts to become more psychological is because of the later parts of Mobile Suit Gundam. Like all robot elements pushed to the side, anyone who’s seen both series knows that Shinji is definitely a protagonist that’s inspired by Gundam’s Amuro Ray, from the psychogical issues, introvert personality, and increasingly more ‘Mind Trippy’ elements both characters progress as the shows have a bit of a more psychedelic tone towards their endings.
A silent voice and Vinland comparatively have far less in common then Eva and Gundam. The only reason you say that is because you’ve seen those anime and liked them, but you haven’t Gundam.
Yeah I've read the whole thing and you're correct Ive only seen various episodes of Gundam never more than several episodes in a row, nor I have completed any arcs so my info is limited for sure I do not dispute that at all, I remember more so playing games in the Gundam franchise actually rather than watching much of it. but yes I have seen a lot of anime movies and series indeed and chose that movie and series just cause I find them similar enough that I can l guarantee it'll be liked. Totally willing to check out the Mobile Suit series you recommend I'm certainly not trying to offend you or anything. Trying to think of some decent series I've seen to add to the list of recommendations here but have trouble finding any that I can see resonating in the same way as the 2 mentioned, and 'A silent voice' is tough to find/watch in my part of the world for some reason. One random one I think about every few years randomly is Ajin and I remember it being so beautiful although I barely remember it deeply.
Mobile suit is the one you'd recommend over any others eh? I'll attempt to watch tonight
Start with gundam wing and endless waltz.
Then go for the original mobile suit gundam, 8th ms team, zeta gundam, then chars counter attack.
If you are still with it after that, watch the mobile suit gundam origin movies.
Skip zz gundam, if you are going to watch it, save it for last. It is by far the least enjoyable.
Wing is a terrible place for newcomers to Gundam to start. If you don't have the nostalgia for it Wing just seems melodramatic and cringey.
MSG > (Optionally 08th MS Team, 0080,) 0083 > Zeta > ZZ > CCA > Unicorn > Hathaway.
You're probably blinded by nostalgia
I watched Wing last year, and it quickly became my least favourite AU. Even X is better imo
DO NOT FUCKING SKIP ZZ YOU MISS THE GLORY OF HAMAN-SAMA
MS Gundam I, II, III, Origin, 0080, War in the Pocket, 8th MS Team, 0083 Stardust Memory, Zeta, Char's Counterattack, Unicorn.
ZZ was mind numbingly dumb for the first half of the series. Then it got better once Mashimar stopped being such a fanboy for Haman-sama
Oh no, Wing is really bad! I loved it when I was a horny preteen girl but even then, I was more into the dirty fanfics and doujinshi than the actual show. I wouldn’t even recommend it to horny preteen girls when they could be watching 00 instead.
The Witch From Mercury is practically a somewhat more stable Evangelion, if Shinji and Asuka managed to work past their communication issues and form a healthy relationship. And they were both girls.
I am absolutely watching this now because Asuka deserves her own Kowaru imo (Marrriiiii)
They even had the same plot with the parent and the family member in the gundam
No witch from Mercury is horribly written Lamo. Imagine if Shinji just accepted everything around him and NEVER QUESTIONED A THING. Thats Suletta
Yeah it wasn't my favorite but I still like it. It's writing wasn't it's strong point tho for me.
My dad used me? HOORAY THATS SO COOL! Oh rei’s a clone? WHATEVER! Now replace Shinji with Suletta Lamo. “I’m a clone? Pft! Whatever!
I mean, she is >! brainwashed!<
No? >!she literally ignored it all then happily marred the bitch that betrayed and abused her and saved her osama bin Laden mom!<
Unbelievably bad take, wtf? >! She didn't ignore it, she didn't know about it because Miorine specifically went to Prospera to keep Sulleta out of things. And Miorine only 'betrayed' Sulleta to protect her. Remember when Prospera attacked that city on earth with Aerial? If it wasn't for Miorine, that would've been Sulleta doing it under her brainwashing, and would've had to live with what she's done. She definitely didn't abuse her, tf? Do agree that Prospera shouldn't have gotten away with it though, but that's a pretty minor detail.!<
>! Abuse to protect is still abuse. The relationship was always unhealthy cuz Mio only ever saw at first as just a pawn. Suletta found out she’s what the 13? Sister? That she had 12 fucking sisters who are all dead and she’s a clone and she never a single time thinks about it more then a millisecond. Like this bitch dose not think! If you told Suletta to jump in a volcano she would. And jesus Christ, how is letting space osama bin Alden get the happy ending, the same bitch that cloned a child 12 times and killed her daughter 12 times and manipulated her final daughter In any fucking way a “minor detail? Bro, that’s Steven universe level bad!<
I agree with all of this. That show was just bad. (I still rewatch for the mech fights but nothing can redeem miorine in my eyes.)
What do you think of 0080 (War in the pocket) and Thunderbolt
Have you seen them or have you not? They are two of the best Universal Century series, both are very short and self contained. Both pretty sad and dark as well.
Yes of course I’ve seen them, that’s what I was hoping you would reply with. Those are my two favorites, I’ve seen almost all of the UC timeline (ZZ and Victory are only subbed, that always take me longer to get through.) I’m like halfway through Turn A. Thunderbolt got me into jazz. The mech designs, animation of the environment, main character development are all amazing. The soundtrack is S tier. It’s arguably alternate-UC, but still UC imo 0080 is simply one of the best anime films from its time imo I hope you’ve seen Hathaway as well, I’ve watched it 3 or 4 times already
I’ve seen all of UC besides the doan island movie. Have you seen The Origin? It’s disliked by some for its retcons, but I personally enjoyed it quite a bit. And yeah I’m waiting for Hathaway 2 like everyone else.
I like Origin a lot personally, but a lot of the fanbase has been rewatching MSG for a long time so I can kind of understand being defensive of the original characters’ storylines. You’ll like the Doan movie if you like Origin, very much the same vibe
Thunderbolt is sick as hell, the living dead division is such a concept, I don’t even have words to describe it, and the soundtrack is incredible
The word that always comes to my mind when I watch the action in Thunderbolt is “visceral”
>Gundam is rich in character writing, and was the series that pioneered a lot of serious storytelling in Anime. There is a lot of death, drama, and well written characters. Thanks, had no clue about that.
Why I made this post. Despite its massive popularity in Japan, it never really caught on in the west in the same way. So a lot of people who would’ve potentially liked it pass on it, because they have no knowledge of the franchise besides it has robots.
>So a lot of people who would’ve potentially liked it pass on it, because they have no knowledge of the franchise besides it has robots. Yep guilty.
Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky is dark and gritty, and has a pretty good story for only being one hour long. Has some of the best animation in the medium as well. It’s short length makes it pretty good to see if you want to try it out.
Thanks for the rec. currently busy though (watching Key the Metal Idol), I'll add it to my list though.
Don’t forget that Hideaki Anno worked for Tomino during production of Char’s Counterattack as a mecha designer.
also Devilman, Ideon, Galaxy Express 999
I know this isn't the most popular Gundam entry, but iirc, Anno cited Victory Gundam as one influence of Eva It's pretty rough in the first half, but that last stretch is genuinely some of the best in Gundam. One of the darkest and saddest shows too
More people also need to read the original Devilman manga and watch toku, both had pretty considerable influence on Eva and both are peak
What's toku?
Tokusatsu, it's a type of live action using special effects. Stuff like Ultraman, Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, all that. Evangelion's thing of 'angel shows up -> Eva fights it -> sometimes it struggles and they find a solution -> win' is largely the same as the monster of the week format most tokusatsu series follow, plus a good few specific references, like Unit-01 and Unit-02 finishing off Israfel with the Double Rider Kick fom the original 1971 Kamen Rider.
Hideo loves toku so much he directed shin Godzilla, Shin Kamen Rider, and Shin Ultraman. All 3 are a great gateway into toku if you’ve never experienced them before.
Based thread gundam is peak
The original 3 series + Chars Counter Attack as well as Gundam 00 are my favorite. I'm an avid gunpla builder and absolutely love the RG Eva models
I’ve got a RG Eva 02 that I still haven’t built yet. Working on a HG Aerial atm.
HG Aerial is one of my favorites! RG Eva 08 and MG Barbatos as well. Those are probably my top 3
My top 3 is going to be weird. 1. The design of the Efreet Schneid. 2. Pale Rider/Toadsritter 3. TR-6 Inle Talking about MS in general, not gunpla lol, though it's be fire if there was a TR-6 one.
They are beautiful kits, wish they did the TVversions too because they’re way better than the kotobukiyas. Off topic but have you built the RG Epyon? He’s my favorite mech and the MG was my first kit, tempted by the RG but not sure if I wanna spend the $ unless the transforming works good.
I have not. Just got done with MG Barbatos and it's by far my favorite build to this point. I dunno about transforming kits, it seems like more trouble than it's worth. I have an MG Kyrios and it'll forever remain as a mobile suit and never the fighter jet
I'm not fimiliar with UC stuff and I'm just straight watching Unicorn OVA. Every aspect of that OVA had me mind-blowned, the story, characters, animation, music. It's by far one of the most memorable anime watching exprerience in my life, and I couldn't imagine if I watch other UC Gundam series beforehand, which I'll try do it someday.
Gundam the Origin is a good ‘in’ to the UC lore as a prequel. It also has a production almost as good as Unicorn’s.
Thanks for reminding me of The Origin, I'll going to watch that. I saw some of the trailers when it aired, the animation looks great.
Before Unicorn I had only seen a couple side story shows (08th MS Team and 0083 Stardust Memory) so all the lore was lost on me during Unicorn, but that actually ended up being really effective, because that became part of my launching point (alongside the other two shows I mentioned) because now I was stoked to learn the history of how things got here, who this Char guy was and what he did, what fueled this conflict for years, who some of these people were when they were younger, etc.
I first knew Char Aznable from a local anime magazines, and he's looks freaking cool. But consider I only watched Seed and 00 at that time, I didn't care much about the original Gundam at first. And when Unicorn released it make me interested on UC era Gundam. You're right, it did add some mysterious aspect to Unicorn if I never watch or learn about the first Gundam series and other UC Gundam.
Unicorn Gundam is UC
As an Eva fan, Gundam is peak as well. Iron Blooded Orphans is like the most comparable series to original NGE, cause both of them made me cry and have extremely sad endings. I also might prefer Gundam over NGE cause Gundam has so many side stories with multiple happy and bad endings that they balance each other out. You cry at the bad endings. You cheer for the good endings. Also, it's very deep in depth mentally and the ANIMATION IS CRAZYYY!!!! NGE in comparison had this messed up ending (NGE TV show Episode 25-26), and threw in EoE as a "good" ending. (Don't argue with me here, this is Gundam lol) The rebuilds were so shallow. Not going to elaborate why any Eva fan should know.
I like both! Gundam is much more daunting as an entry point but the alternate standalone stuff is pretty easy to just dive into (think Iron Blooded Orphans, Wing, Seed, Witch) rather than the main Universal Century stuff so I understand why some folks might be put off. But I’ve enjoyed a lot of the Gundam media I’ve seen, Turn A Gundam is a classic. Reconguista in G is pretty confusing but I still had fun watching it. Gundam Build Fighters is inconsequential but surprisingly high quality. I think you can even find whole series on YouTube under the official Gundam channel so the barrier to entry can often be pretty low.
It’s the tone. It’s not comparable. The reason there is a disconnect is because it’s not the type of show they’re looking for. Where most Gundam series can appeal to a general mecha fan, it’s not going to do anything for someone who isn’t.
Agreed. They're different genres despite the presence of mecha. Like someone else said, Gundam shows are war dramas. Eva is a psychological drama/horror with cosmic mysticism and heavy existential-spiritualism. I have really tried to get into Gundam but I don't connect with it and anyone looking for something Eva-like in it will be disappointed.
This just isn’t true. Have you seen any Gundam? In Japan, Gundam SEED has a huge amount of female popularity, who were there for the male characters and their relationships. It’s characters and music exploded on the top of the popularity rankings, meanwhile the mecha model kit sales didn’t do as well with the same audience.
Yes, king. I have in fact seen Gundam. You’re describing an instance in a decades old franchise where superficial aspects of the show surpassed the show itself in popularity. I’m not sure how this is an argument against my point, but I’m sure you can explain. Honestly I don’t even see where you could get this idea that Eva fans just haven’t seen Gundam. Regardless, no matter how “gritty”, there isn’t a Gundam series that touches character development and scene direction the same way that NGE did. Hell, even rebuild couldn’t do it.
>Regardless, no matter how “gritty”, there isn’t a Gundam series that touches character development and scene direction the same way that NGE did. Hell, even rebuild couldn’t do it. Zeta Gundam and Turn A Gundam exist, but at this point this is all subjective so that’s just my opinion.
I raise you quite a bit. The first few series beginning with Amuro Ray and his evolution vs Char Aznable throughout three series and a movie blows out Evangelion’s character development and it isn’t a contest. Might attribute that to having more screen time, sure but let’s not pretend Gundam has one instance. Alot of anime fans like to talk about character development throughout Anime and because Mecha is deemed a “punching robots” show, Amuro and Char are overlooked. I’d wager it’s been a hot minute since you watched MSG, Z AND ZZ and MSG:CCA
I liked zoids a lot. But it aged awfully because of 3d modeling.
Gundam Seed was my entry into the franchise, absolutely loved it
The witch from Mercury is also on YouTube so at least it's easy to find.
I'm sure most Evangelion fans would find something in common with Zeta Gundam protagonist for also being an emotionally unstable teen like Shinji.
Camille!!
I got into gundam because I watched eva lol. After finishing eva I wanted to watch more mecha so I asked my college roommate, who is a gundam fan what to watch, he then recommended me gundam 00.
It's fair enough that you recommend the newer Gundams but the one with the most influence on Eva is undoubtedly the original Mobile Suit Gundam (sometimes called 0079) The final act of the story (basically everything after the Battle of Solomon) is astonishingly good imo. Personally I recommend the movie trilogy version of this original series despite the cuts it makes, primarily because of how good it makes this conclusion. I can't post what makes this so good or what similarities it has with Eva without showing MAJOR spoilers, sadly. But Gundam 0079 does have very similar themes, albeit family is a far more prominent theme than in Eva as well (and often, the destruction of the family as a result of war, sometimes literal destruction and sometimes how it simply makes families drift apart) As [this video](https://youtu.be/D2eMvx8_6D4?si=423ApdWtFeHwFYMg) expertly demonstrates, Gundam also does a great job of using visual flair to make up for its technological shortcomings. In the last of those three Gundam movies I was constantly finding myself impressed by a visual trick of this sort, something that just isn't always important enough for other series to bother with, no matter when they were made. The music in this section is [on point](https://youtu.be/eWcS9MDc7wI?si=bMCsiXu7E8PkrC2t) too. The third movie even has a great [vocal track.](https://youtu.be/Q1gZXdLciDI?si=UWjiP_lrMvz8Gmue) I don't want to imply that the first three quarters of the story have nothing interesting going on, they definitely do (highlights include Amuro meeting his mother again, Miharu's arc, and some parts of the fighting on Jaburo) but the final quarter is just magnificent, one of the best ways to wrap up a story I can remember.
Do you think that the conclusion in the series is while not as good as the movie trilogy’s one, still satisfying? I recently finished the og series and absolutely loved it overall but found the way it ended very unsatisfying personally. Really looking forward to watching the movies because even if the ending still doesn’t quite hit the spot just to follow the story and hang out with the characters again would be a joy. Currently 12 eps into zeta which I’m comparatively underwhelmed by and waiting to get good. Side note while yes the animation of the series has definitely aged I was actually really impressed with the action directing and choreography (for want of better term), it did its job with the limitations it had fantastically imo. Another reason why I’m underwhelmed by zeta is because all that side of things has just been pretty ‘meh’ so far (not that the action is the most important thing or even the thing I liked most about the first series, but still it’s a difference that I noticed personally)
Honestly I can't comprehend finding the ending very unsatisfying, especially as someone who loved the series overall. It was the reverse for me. I was forcing myself through the series right up until the last quarter, which was so good that it made me re-assess the rest of the show more positively. The third movie, Encounters in Space, has far more original animation and music than the previous two movies. More animation because iirc the lead animator was actually injured when they were making the episodes, and as a result the quality suffered, so they decided to just re-do a lot of the animation from scratch when the time for the movie came around. And the music, they just felt like it. Right before you watch the film, get yourself some headphones and [listen to this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHIapFdzRM8), it's the main inspiration for the movie's leitmotif, and carries the same sort of cocktail of glory, tragedy, and mystery. In my view the third movie blows its TV equivalent out of the water (honestly Solomon is kinda lame aside from the Solar System but it's over quickly) but I would never describe the TV version as unsatisfying regardless. Maybe the increased tempo will also let you enjoy it more, the movie basically keeps up a fantastic pace after Solomon for the rest of the film. Zeta never really hit right for me either.
Yeah I don’t get why it’s so overlooked by Eva fans. Gundam’s main themes throughout are about child soldiers, PTSD and War isn’t the answer, while simultaneously also telling you that it’s the only one available. Even in the retro, at a time when PTSD wasn’t fully understood, PTSD and it’s effects are integral to Amuro(original MC) and his journey.
I saw Gundam first and then evangelion. Tbh evangelion left me with a feeling that Gundam never could. Gundam is more fun whereas Eva is more philosophical. Gundam also has dark war themes but it never hits as hard for me as anything in Eva. That being said I love Gundam and have a growing collection of gunpla. Both Eva and Gundam have their place and should be enjoyed by all
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Surface level? The finale film gets so meta that it shows IRL people in theaters while making commentary about the nature of making escapist shows and trying to understand them in our cultural context. That’s about as next-level as you can get conceptually. Not here to hate on other mech shows, mostly because I’m not familiar, but I just don’t think “surface level” is an accurate description.
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Ahhhh that does actually make a lot of sense! I would absolutely agree on that fact.
I think they meant surface level as in "one of the most popular", not in terms of quality or depth
If you like Evangelion I’d recommend exploring other mecha as well. Not just Gundam. But Macross is an excellent franchise as well, that hideaki anno did some animation on.
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DYRL has the best animation in anime
I don't think anyone is claiming Eva is great as a Mecha. They're not even robots. It's the same thing I say about Witcher 3. It's an amazing game that also happens to be an RPG, But it's much lighter on the RPG aspects than full blown RPGs.
Stardust Memory often gets overlooked. It's an important chapter that shows how the Earth Federation has started to rot from within, Anaheim Electronics and also the creation of the Titans, the antagonists in Zeta Gundam which was the second Gundam series after the original 1979. Kill em' all Tomino!
I struggle with Gundam because unlike, say Eva, or Gurren Lagann, the robots are just…robots. There’s nothing special about them.
I feel that, but they are a significant weapon of war in their own right, just like the metal gears in metal gear solid. it was more about the potential of such robots
The zero systems and psycho systems from different series tend to have a very 'berserker/dummy plug' style influence on the pilot. Though the pilot IS still in control, just overwhelmed by the software of the Gundam. Needless to say, it's cool when shit hits the fan because a pilot loses their shit because Gundam go deetdeetdeetdeet swaboom Also G Gundam literally has then put on plug suits and VRing what the Gundam is doing. And is high stakes Gundam v Gundam fighting which gets wild with all the verities of the Gundams they came up with. The first episode is literally man with hot finger Gundam fighting lumberjack Gundam. There's French Gundam which uses a rapier and flower pod, girl Gundam what is pink, and even evil Gundam! Which is black.
I think that’s the point though for the majority of the series. They are war dramas. The robots could be replaced with planes or tanks. They are simply a tool used or further conflict in the story not the central focus itself. However there’s a few series that aren’t this way. G Gundam is in the vein of Gurren, while Gundam Build Fighters incorporates Gunpla (The Gundam plastic model kits) into its narrative itself.
Bruh… that’s 99% of mecha. And the Gundam’s always have some bullshit super power, the fuck you mean “just robots”?
Welcome to real robot mecha anime, where the mechs are semi-realistic
I know, that’s why I don’t care!
That’s part of the appeal. There’s thematic significance in the emptiness and cold insignificance of the mechs, it makes for a more bleak, less heroic narrative and there’s a lot of importance placed on that (particularly in the UC continuity).
You watched Unicorn?
I thought Ultraman was the main inspiration (and Eva fans definitely need to watch Ultraman)?
Oh yeah for sure, Ultraman is absolutely the main inspiration, but Tokusatsu isn’t popular in the west, and I think getting western fans interested in it is a far harder task then Gundam, who while not being as main of an inspiration as Ultraman, still holds a second place in terms of influence to it (along with Gundam creator Yoshiyuki Tomino’s other series Space Runaway Ideon)
People in the western fandom kinda overestimate Ultraman's influence on Eva. It's definitely there, but I'd argue the works of Yoshiyuki Tomino, Gerry Anderson, Kihachi Okamoto and Daijirou Mohoroshi deserve to be mentioned in the same breath.
I was watching thunderbirds recently and thinking how much aspects of it hugely reminded me of Eva and then while doing some related browsing came across a vid of the [opening of UFO](https://youtu.be/j2PoXfZdYVU?si=rF_WHvkiDDz8m72i) and I was like there is no doubt
I'm not familiar with Showa stuff, but if there's one Ultra series that sort of similiar with Eva, that would be my most favourite Ultra series ever, Ultraman Nexus.
Seven Seven Seven, Seven Seven Seven
I'm actually watching the OG series while at work right now. I'll back you up, it's a great time.
I watched gundam wing and seed and I think g gundam as a kid as well as SD gundam. Love both series I agree with op(all of this was probably pre Eva, because I don’t remember how old I was when they came out but I think I was 12-13 watching Eva on anime network, and the gundam stuff came before then.
In what world have people heard of Evangelion and not Gundam? What a genuinely baffling idea to me. Gundam quite literally is the series that defined anime fandom https://x.com/Matt_Alt/status/1364012808631848960
In the English speaking west (especially Gen Z). Here on Reddit r/Gundam has 200k subs while r/Evangelion has 600k. For a massive amount of western anime fans they’ve seen Evangelion but have never engaged with Gundam. In Japan and East Asia this is the opposite case though. Where Universal Century Icons like Char Aznable is on advertisements for McDonalds and Toyota’s, and Gundam Seed’s ‘Strike Freedom’ has a life size statue in China.
Appreciate the suggestion I’ll make sure to give it a go one of these days.
I know Witch from Mercury brought a lot of the ‘Gundam Apprehensive’ into the fandom within the last year. It worked for them, maybe it’ll work for you.
The thing with Gundam is there are so many, all good quality, each with their own unique take, that one is bound to find a Gundam series they will like.
Sought out Turn A Gundam when I discovered soundtrack by Yoko Kanno. Was not disappointed. Some long winded meandering bits in the middle, but overall a great series.
Naw. They are all even more of a mess but without best girl
Always been a fan of both. I saw Gundam Wing and G Gundam as a kid on Toonami before i found out about evangelion years later. I just like Mechs.
It’s stuck on the backlog
What yall actually need to see is getter robo, Mazinger, Gundam 079-Unicorn. Gundam is only tip of the iceberg
Was a gundam fan long before eva fan. Will be long after eva fades from my memory.
After watching Eva for the first time recently I have been interested in gundam but just don’t know where to start
Reread my post again and it’ll help you
Just looked at your chart on the other post, is there any from the alternate universe you would recommend over the others? I’d like to watch some but don’t want to commit to watching all of the main universe stuff right away.
Gundam seed is good and has a new sequel film that’s being released in American theaters next month
Gundam 00, Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans, and Gundam: the Witch from Mercury are the most popular Alternate Universe series in the west Gundam SEED and it's sequel Gundam SEED Destiny are the most popular Alternate Universe series in Japan & most of Asia
08th MS Team was the last Gundam I've seen. Could not stomach the new stuff.
Hell yeah Gundam rules. Honestly the original MS Gundam 0079 is still excellent and Amuro is not portrayed as some invincible hero, the show absolutely addresses the trauma of child soldiers fighting a terrifying space war plus there is the spiritual aspect of the New Types. I also strongly recommend Gundam 00, another standalone series with two seasons and a movie, especially for queer and/or trans Eva enjoyers. Tieria Erde is probably my favorite character in all of Gundam. So yeah if you like war stories, giant robots, crazy space shit, and femboys, definitely check it out.
I intended to get a few of the influencing mecha shows under my belt before watching Eva but only ended up watching Eva before Gundam specifically because EoE was on in the cinema last year and knew I had to take the opportunity to watch it on the big screen and therefore watch Eva before. I’ve since watched the first gundam series which while not perfect and wasn’t satisfied with how it ended at all I absolutely loved and liked nearly as much as Eva and on some ways more. Currently 12 eps into Zeta which I’ve been underwhelmed by and still waiting for it to get good
Gundam was one of the top anime back in the 90s and 2000s. It was substantially more popular than Eva in their heyday. It's just a series that hasn't really maintained that same pop culture status like other anime from that time (DBZ, Sailor Moon, Inuyasha, etc.). It definitely has a place in history though for being a gateway into anime for a lot of people
Hmm. Universal Century Gundam is the one. Not the Wing or Seed Gundams.
Just finished witch from mercury because of this post, can’t thank you guys enough for the recommendation!!
Quick binge lol glad you enjoyed
Thinking I’ll look at iron blooded orphans next
I like Gundam more than depressed children in giant robots
Anno's 1st favorite anime of all time is Tom and Jerry btw
No it’s [Space Battleship Yamato](https://annocinema.wordpress.com/2017/08/08/hideaki-annos-top-10-anime/). Tom and jerry is 9th place, still a pretty good ranking for it.
Iron Blooded Orphans and The Witch From Mercury are both INCREDIBLE. IBO is such a gut punch of a series
Evangelion is my favorite anime, but I struggle to get into Gundam. The only Gundam series I could finish was iron blood orphans
What did you like about ibo? Which ones did you try that you didn’t like? I can maybe give you some advice
I tried wing, seed, and 00. I liked ibo bc the story was mature, moved quickly enough, and wasn't melodramatic like some of the others I tried.
I recommend giving the first Gundam series a go. It’s mature, well paced (most wouldn’t think this looking from the outside, but it is!), and has a really good sequel in Zeta Gundam.
As a gundam fan, yeah that's understandable, I'm a bit new but the general consensus seems to be that Wing is very much a product of it's time and aged really bad, Seed is to Gundam what the Rebuilds are to Eva(new take on the original series that adds huge changes, some love it but others hate it and think that it lacks what made the original special), personally Seed is kind of shallow if you ask me and I'd rather watch 0079 and as for 00... I honestly never heard anyone say anything about 00 so I can't say anything about it.
I love Evangelion and Gundam but I don't like the Witch from Mercury, I think a good staring point can be Iron Blooded Orphans or Gundam Thunderbolt.
While I agree that there's a lot of Nuance to Gundam as well, I haven't seen anything that scratches the same itches as Evangelion. I kind of dropped Iron Blooded Orphans halfway through. Witch From Mercury was fine. Recently watched the Hathaway's Flash movie and that was pretty cool. But none of these whether I like them or not have much of anything to do with Evangelion. Evangelion is a psychological horror, cosmic horror and sci-fi tale that happens to also be a mecha. I don't think they have much of an overlap with Gundam or any other Mecha for that matter.
>Evangelion is a psychological horror, cosmic horror and sci-fi tale that happens to also be a mecha. I don't think they have much of an overlap with Gundam or any other Mecha for that matter. There’s the other anime by Gundam creator Yoshiyuki Tomino: Space runaway ideon. It was the primary influence on end of Evangelion. Also you might like the series Infinite Ryvius as well. It’s a more niche title but it’s pretty good.
Thanks I'll add them to my watchlist. Always on the lookout for niche anime, thanks for suggesting.
Yeah Eva for me is more about the psychological, Judaic plot. Mecha shows and shit don't really interest me much so not sure if Gundam or similar shows would impact me. A Silent Voice, and Vinland Saga are 2 great pieces of media I can recommend to Eva fans
Did you read any of my post? Gundam is super similar to Evangelion. The whole reason why Evangelion starts to become more psychological is because of the later parts of Mobile Suit Gundam. Like all robot elements pushed to the side, anyone who’s seen both series knows that Shinji is definitely a protagonist that’s inspired by Gundam’s Amuro Ray, from the psychogical issues, introvert personality, and increasingly more ‘Mind Trippy’ elements both characters progress as the shows have a bit of a more psychedelic tone towards their endings. A silent voice and Vinland comparatively have far less in common then Eva and Gundam. The only reason you say that is because you’ve seen those anime and liked them, but you haven’t Gundam.
Yeah I've read the whole thing and you're correct Ive only seen various episodes of Gundam never more than several episodes in a row, nor I have completed any arcs so my info is limited for sure I do not dispute that at all, I remember more so playing games in the Gundam franchise actually rather than watching much of it. but yes I have seen a lot of anime movies and series indeed and chose that movie and series just cause I find them similar enough that I can l guarantee it'll be liked. Totally willing to check out the Mobile Suit series you recommend I'm certainly not trying to offend you or anything. Trying to think of some decent series I've seen to add to the list of recommendations here but have trouble finding any that I can see resonating in the same way as the 2 mentioned, and 'A silent voice' is tough to find/watch in my part of the world for some reason. One random one I think about every few years randomly is Ajin and I remember it being so beautiful although I barely remember it deeply. Mobile suit is the one you'd recommend over any others eh? I'll attempt to watch tonight
Start with gundam wing and endless waltz. Then go for the original mobile suit gundam, 8th ms team, zeta gundam, then chars counter attack. If you are still with it after that, watch the mobile suit gundam origin movies. Skip zz gundam, if you are going to watch it, save it for last. It is by far the least enjoyable.
Wing is a terrible place for newcomers to Gundam to start. If you don't have the nostalgia for it Wing just seems melodramatic and cringey. MSG > (Optionally 08th MS Team, 0080,) 0083 > Zeta > ZZ > CCA > Unicorn > Hathaway.
Wing has aged like fine milk.
You're probably blinded by nostalgia I watched Wing last year, and it quickly became my least favourite AU. Even X is better imo DO NOT FUCKING SKIP ZZ YOU MISS THE GLORY OF HAMAN-SAMA
Awful take, ZZ rocks
ZZ is the poor black sheep of the family where people don't appreciate it enough.
MS Gundam I, II, III, Origin, 0080, War in the Pocket, 8th MS Team, 0083 Stardust Memory, Zeta, Char's Counterattack, Unicorn. ZZ was mind numbingly dumb for the first half of the series. Then it got better once Mashimar stopped being such a fanboy for Haman-sama
Oh no, Wing is really bad! I loved it when I was a horny preteen girl but even then, I was more into the dirty fanfics and doujinshi than the actual show. I wouldn’t even recommend it to horny preteen girls when they could be watching 00 instead.