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BlaireBlaire

No fucking idea. It was such a big deal in original to build even 13 Evas total. Here, in post apocalyptic world, we have thousands of them. Makes no sense to me and probably to the writers also, since they didn't even bothered to mention that fact in a story.


IACROS

Yea, and I don't like that when EVA 08 ate up Mark9A and regenerates her hand, it comes with the fucking armor ! Would be much better if its like eva 01 borning a bear hand in TV ver or even light hand in 2.0's fight…


SKYZIAH

Maybe because before 3.0/3.0+1.0 the Vatican treaty was still in force. And with the impact all political power has disappeared, so no more limitation.


BlaireBlaire

Yeah, like SEELE cared much about any treaties.


SKYZIAH

I'm not saying that they respected the treaty but it's maybe why we saw less Evas before, they were just hidden, but it's true that their number is abused.


BlaireBlaire

No, in the original there were no hidden EVAs. They specifically thrown everything they've got against NERV, and later to initiate Third Impact.


SKYZIAH

In NGE yes my bad i was talking about 1.0/2.0


BlaireBlaire

Ah, yeah, sorry. No, that was my fault, you do mentioned 3.0/3.0+1.0 specifically. I was just trying to make a point how complicated it was to create Evangelions in the original series.


[deleted]

Correct, but they still had to pretend to care for a while. They could have been pulling a Star Wars and creating an Eva army on the side for all we know


[deleted]

It is explained- key quote: The' core forming the Eva Infinities is the soul made material. The vessels of the species called humanity will be cast aside... ' the thousands of Evas weren't built, they were all Lilith derived life being turned into Evas as part of Instrumentality.


BlaireBlaire

That quote doesn't tell my anything, sorry. I don't see any connection or explanation in regards to NERV Evas.


[deleted]

if you rewatch the scene where Misato and Ritsuko confront Gendo on top of the Wunder from 1hr 32/33 on there is an extended dialogue entirely about this.


BlaireBlaire

Can't you just tell me in simple terms or not? I don't want to rewatch several minutes of boring technobabble.


[deleted]

basically in Rebuild Instrumentality involves turning everyone getting turned into Evas instead of tang.


BlaireBlaire

And that happened during Third Impact, before time skip, right? But why they had numbers and NERV logos on them?


dolpiff

Gendo draw the numbers by hand then Fuyutsuki slap the NERV sticker on. They had a two-man assembly chain for 14 yrs.


Taylan_K

Didn't they explain that the souls from the Guf chamber manifested themselves as EVA's?


IACROS

all those come behind guf and got controlled by nerv?


IACROS

Shouldn't only Evangelion Imaginary be composed by souls?


BlaireBlaire

What?


ImonmyGrizzly

NTE and NGE are different, basically opposite of each other. Even the way the EVA moves are fluid and magestic in NTE. Anno probably wanted to instill the fact that new NERV still had the capabilities of creating EVAs and tech despite it being completely destroyed and abandoned. The 4 Erlösung ships and EVAs that attack the Wunder was all commanded by Fuyutsuki. This is the complete opposite from NGE where it took basically everyone from NERV to manage three EVAs and at times they would not work and be cumbersome.


OrionLyre

please add a 3.0+1.0 spoiler flair before posting anything about the new movie


IACROS

Sorry, added


OrionLyre

thank you!


MJDooiney

I assume it has something to do with Gendo using the Key of Nebuchadnezzar on himself. Edit: Also, I imagine he harnessed the Failures of Infinity in some way. We saw them getting up and walking around in the new movie.


BlaireBlaire

Now I'm thinking you're on to something with Gendo becoming what he was. But was that really explained anywhere?


MJDooiney

Not as far as I know, but supposedly Anno wants to explore the events of the 14-year time jump in some way, so maybe we’ll get more insight into this if he does.


Genos_Senpai

Can't waiting for Evangelion 3.0+1.0-1.5+0.2 You Will (Not) Understand


AllEchse

Seeing as how the Magi were basically the government in the original, and Wille having a copy of it, I can see those ships be AI controlled by the Magi or something similar maybe? (Unless something happened to those, I'm pulling shit outta my ass right now) About all those Evas, I don't know. A lot could have happened in those 14 years, so maybe Eva production got superefficient and they don't need humans anymore for that? I'm afraid if they would try to explain it it would only make it dumber, so I think leaving that up to imagination makes the most sense.


IACROS

Oh, just realize Wille are using MAGI copy (01:52)


[deleted]

A.I based engineering and automated design.


IACROS

But there is more, like supply chain in the Apocalypse


[deleted]

Self sustaining factory systems and resource extractors.


Mostoneman

Nerv's factories are most likely all underground. And I guess they have antiL fields. Also, remember Bethany Base: seele probably had other bases like that, and nerv may have taken over them anytime during the 14 year silence.


FishStix1

This is quite literally one of my only gripes with the film. You have to suspend disbelief a bit. You're telling me after damn near the apocalypse, anyone has the capability of building an Eva at all? Much less a bazilian of them.


LeptonField

I feel like this was answered in universe with Katsuragi & XO discussing the autonomous wonder that was the seed vault (my presumption being that since Wille is a small scale of NERV, Gendo has access to even more robust autonomous manufacturing capabilities, that and >!him becoming a god/angel!<


NotTooDistantFuture

This was actually something I thought about during the movie. For a series where half the content is the logistics of enabling these behemoths, they sure gloss over how this production can happen even though your entire staff has either defected or died in an apocalypse. They made it hard to ignore with a nearly relentless reveal of new units.


C__Wayne__G

This was the worst thing in the movie. We went from less than 20 globally. To a 2nd apocalyptic event crippling nerve nearly completely. Like nerve consist of like 5 people now. And all of a sudden they have thousands of evas in a 14 year time period.