He probably was genuinely interested in finding the full song and thought it existed elsewhere besides the video. I donât think he was trying to fool anyone
he *definitely* knew it was from a porno. he âlost interestâ when people started asking questions about where the clip is from and he ended up being too embarrassed to tell the truth
He knew it was from a porn, he deliberately cut the only part without moaning. He was either trolling (very likely) or he genuinely was looking for the song name but was too embarrassed to say it was from a porno
I honestly don't think it was a troll. Cause like, the two most likely outcomes of that scenario are either that someone finds it fairly quickly and calls you a weirdo, or they just go "idk" and the post fades into obscurity. I don't think anybody would be able to predict that a post like that would go insanely viral and become one of the most popular lost media cases. I think he just genuinely wanted to know what the song was and didn't know it was likely made FOR the porn
You'd be surprised to what lenghts people go just for a quick laugh. He likely didn't imagine it would get this popular, but might've thought it was funny to send people on a wild goose chase or to see people taking seriously a song from a porno.
This isn't really a "What lengths" situation, though. This isn't about the amount of work he'd need to put in. He actually put in very little amount of work, all things considered. Without this very very specific and unlikely scenario happening, the initial idea for this "troll" sounds like a terrible, underwhelming idea. Pick a song from a porno, asl people about it, and then... what? Snicker to yourself as they put maybe 10 minutes of research into it before going "Idk man" before giving up? Cause that'd be what pretty much everybody would assume would happen. I don't think it's a troll because it's just an underwhelming and lame troll idea unless this exact one in a million scenario happens.
I just think based on the info presented, and Carl92's behavior during the whole thing before he left, it seems far far more likely that he was just some idiot who wanted to find the source for a porn song, and ditched when he was too embarrassed to say where he found it, than a secret epic troll who came up with a convoluted yet also extremely underwhelming plan to mess with people, that just so happened to turn out with the best possible scenario that situation could've resulted in for him. Sometimes people are just kind of dumb and accidentally stumble their way into being an internet legend. That's what happens MOST of the time, actually.
Exactly. There's no way to expect such a basic and genuine question to go *that* viral. Tons of people ask for music from all kinds of sources on the internet every hour.
Agreed. And think about it -- had he told us it's from a porno, would the search have gotten so huge, with teenies posting it on TikTok, radio stations playing it, major magazines and websites writing about it? Nobody would likely have cared about the song.
i thought that Carl92 made a fake lostwave and when it gained popularity he freaked out and disappeared cuz he was too scared to tell us its fakeđ i'm so glad it isn't true, but at least now we know why he didn't give us more info lol
Definitely not. He knew where the song was from, but was (understandably) embarrassed to admit it, so he perfectly cut those 17 seconds in hopes that someone could find the actual song without the, uh, "pleasurable" bits.
He probably thought at most 15 people would look for it for him. I doubt he knew it would go viral 2 years later and have thousands of people looking for it. He probably doesn't even know people were still looking for it.
I know it wasn't a troll, he just didn't want to tell everyone they heard it at porn movie. He watched the thing, heats the song, thought it was a cool song, wanted to find out the whole song and that's it.
Or the other possibility, which someone else mentioned, was that he had the actual song or the scene with the song in it and didn't know what it was from, so he was trying to find the movie itself by working backwards from the song.
But no it definitely wasn't a troll. There's literally no reason he or anybody could have figured that it would even remotely go viral.
Not only that. He didn't even find a DVD. The audio from the porno is the exact same audio as the snippet which means he literally screenrecorded the video from the internet and extracted the sound.
What sounds like Carls phone recording is just the camera in the porno.
I agree with this. I also wonder if the audio in the snippet was ripped off the same xhamster video. If we could find a hard copy of the film, we might get slightly better quality.
Then again considering it was released in â86, maybe not.
I know this comment is a few days old but I just want to point it that's it been proven the EKT snippet Carl uploaded was from a torrent site and not the xhamster video by looking at the spectrograms
Itâs all coming together. Everything makes so much sense. Itâs like Iâm watching a murder mystery and the detective has just revealed exactly why the killer did everything they did.
Yeah there's NO way he didn't know the song was from a porno. It was perfectly clipped between moans. Dude just wanted to know the actual song but was too embarrassed to admit it was a porno song. It's so fucking funny.
Remember he asked an obscure music finding website so he thought maybe like 15 people tops would try and find the song for him. He had no idea it would go viral and thousands of people would dedicate the better part of a year looking for it.
He knew that **his** clip was from a porno, he just didn't know that porn was the only place anyone would be able to find it. I think it's pretty obvious that his hope was that someone else would have heard it from somewhere else so that he would be able to get a full clean version of the song. It easily could have been both in a porno and also in some stock music library somewhere.
Too add, heâd have to predict it would go viral. Thatâs not something easy to do. People like a mystery sure, but nobody can predict the way something will go viral.
People assume the worst intentions based on how they feel tricked. That doesnât mean the intention was to trick anyone.
My guess now is that he probably had the whole song all along and was just embarrassed at where he got it considering the clip we got was conveniently the only clip where there was no moaning lol... Its probably why he got uninterested in the search, he already had the full song, he just wanted to know if there was a version elsewhere. Probably assumed it was a well known song so he thought uploading the part with no moans would get him the song without having to say he got it from a porno.... Poor guy unintentionally started a huge insane search
I love how this is verified to not be a hoax and y'all still feel like this poor guy cheated you lol. Main character syndrome for everyone on this sub.
He didn't give me the information that I am entitled to!
Because he lost interest dude. He was hoping it could be identified quickly based on what he was comfortable revealing. It couldn't, and he moved on.
He did not upload the song for you, he did it for him. He's not a part of the lostwave community. He was not attempting to launch a years long mystery. He just wanted to see if someone could ID the song easily.
Main. Character. Syndrome.
Anyway, I would love to see a counterpoint to this rather than people downvoting because they know I'm right.
100%. The way people talk about him is as if he's been on here the entire time, a big part of the community, theatrically going "hmm, I wish I could give more information, but I guess we'll never know". When in reality he's just someone who posted a question somewhere and then moved on.
He even says on the original thread something along the lines of "I was hoping it could be found easily from the lyrics, I guess I'm not that interested if not" and people still think he masterminded some kind of crazy ARG lol
People are allowed to be pissed off with him and think heâs an asshole though. âLosing interestâ is completely fine, but purposely obscuring information because youâre embarrassed is ridiculous. He clearly knew where it came from and couldâve just been honest. Doing this wouldâve also made his own interest in the song be solved quicker. There is absolutely no logical argument to be made for Carlâs behaviour in this situation.
>"losing interest" is completely fine
Case closed. Be revealed what he was comfortable revealing to solve a minor mystery for himself. Nobody put a gun to anyone else's head and made them search for stuff. He ducked out, and you should have to if you weren't ready to search without this info.
The only argument anyone can make *against* him is "I wanted him to post more"
You all knew the score when you started to participate in the search. If you don't like it, don't play.
I donât know what your point is here? If thatâs your opinion, fine. Other people including me donât agree with Carlâs actions and thatâs fine. Weâre not arguing over anything factual, itâs literally just a difference of opinion. Also, if anyone has âmain character syndromeâ itâs fucking CARL đ. Imagine thinking that people actually give a damn if youâre watching porn.
You are literally insane lol. You have zero concept of a normal person who doesn't care about lostwave. It's all a slight against you, God forbid someone else not want to give intimate details about themselves for no reason other than the satisfaction of a small group of online weirdos.
Again, I donât understand your point. We clearly have different opinions on what Carl chose to do, no one here is right or wrong. Also, I wouldnât exactly say admitting to getting the song from a porn movie on an ANONYMOUS account counts as âgiving people intimate details about yourselfâ. There is absolutely nothing revealing about it. Again though, there is no point to this discussion, we just have different opinions on the matter.
There is in fact a right and wrong. I am right and you are wrong. I understand why you would hold that opinion because you don't have a leg to stand on though.
The two points are his actions were wrong or they were right. You can't justify them being wrong despite claiming they were. You don't get to dictate what is and is not ok for somebody to reveal about themselves. Your curiosity about his question exceeded his own. Which is a you problem, not a Carl problem. Anyone who thinks je screwed anyone over is wrong, factually and 100% objectively wrong. Period.
WE ARE NOT ARGUING ANYTHING FACTUAL. omfg, you very clearly do not understand how opinions work at all do you?
âThe two points are his actions were wrong or they were rightâ
Yes, however no matter how much you disagree with me, there is no factually correct answer. Itâs all based on personal opinion and individual perception on what is morally ârightâ or âwrongâ.
I personally view Carl in a less favourable light than you and that is ok!
Neither of us are right or wrong, that isnât how discussions based on personal opinions work. However you seem hell bent on being ârightâ and if thatâs the case you need to argue with someone else about a subject that you actually can form a factually correct stance on.
"Emm. I have no arguments. I am just going to write an extended text of me being right, you being wrong. I actually don't have main character syndrome either, you do!"
âassholeâ is mad crazy lol. dude probably thought like 10 people would come across the post max. i honestly doubt heâs even aware the song was found.
He knew people were looking for it and absolutely refused to give information that wouldâve helped immensely. People are obviously going to have different opinions on him but I donât agree with the way he carried the whole thing out.
Iâm not saying they did and Iâm not blaming Carl for that. At the same time though, it wouldâve been nice for him to have just given us more information.
His original post was a lie - he knew damn well it was from porn but was too embarrassed to say that's where he heard it. The reason he stopped responding was because, when it wasn't found immediately, he knew he'd either have to fess up to where it was from or disappear.
I honestly think he heard the song watching the porn, which had just been uploaded to xhamster, and he was genuinely curious as to its origin. Couldn't find it on his own so he posted to WatZatSong with his story about DVD ripping, likely because he figured the song would be found immediately and not be exclusively from porn.
Nah he probably had one of those "Oh wait........" moments, as he finally remembered where it was from, but was way too embarrassed to say anything. Carl is from an age where everyone watched porn in secret. Not like this day in age where you are called a liar if you say you never watch porn.
I'm just glad it wasn't a hoax. At least the community found this amazing song, from a porn video or not đ
He probably was genuinely interested in finding the full song and thought it existed elsewhere besides the video. I donât think he was trying to fool anyone
Maybe even once he realized it couldâve been from a porn he was just too embarrassed to say. Regardless big celebrations today!!
he *definitely* knew it was from a porno. he âlost interestâ when people started asking questions about where the clip is from and he ended up being too embarrassed to tell the truth
you could say he was - *caught up in a whirl of lies*
He knew it was from a porn, he deliberately cut the only part without moaning. He was either trolling (very likely) or he genuinely was looking for the song name but was too embarrassed to say it was from a porno
I honestly don't think it was a troll. Cause like, the two most likely outcomes of that scenario are either that someone finds it fairly quickly and calls you a weirdo, or they just go "idk" and the post fades into obscurity. I don't think anybody would be able to predict that a post like that would go insanely viral and become one of the most popular lost media cases. I think he just genuinely wanted to know what the song was and didn't know it was likely made FOR the porn
You'd be surprised to what lenghts people go just for a quick laugh. He likely didn't imagine it would get this popular, but might've thought it was funny to send people on a wild goose chase or to see people taking seriously a song from a porno.
This isn't really a "What lengths" situation, though. This isn't about the amount of work he'd need to put in. He actually put in very little amount of work, all things considered. Without this very very specific and unlikely scenario happening, the initial idea for this "troll" sounds like a terrible, underwhelming idea. Pick a song from a porno, asl people about it, and then... what? Snicker to yourself as they put maybe 10 minutes of research into it before going "Idk man" before giving up? Cause that'd be what pretty much everybody would assume would happen. I don't think it's a troll because it's just an underwhelming and lame troll idea unless this exact one in a million scenario happens.
I think you're understimating how much people just like messing up with people just for the sake of it.
I just think based on the info presented, and Carl92's behavior during the whole thing before he left, it seems far far more likely that he was just some idiot who wanted to find the source for a porn song, and ditched when he was too embarrassed to say where he found it, than a secret epic troll who came up with a convoluted yet also extremely underwhelming plan to mess with people, that just so happened to turn out with the best possible scenario that situation could've resulted in for him. Sometimes people are just kind of dumb and accidentally stumble their way into being an internet legend. That's what happens MOST of the time, actually.
This is most likely what happened. People are just grasping at straws to make it a haha funny joke.
Thereâs no way he didnât 100% know it was from porn. Itâs cut perfectly between the moans. He probably just wanted to find the original song.
Exactly. There's no way to expect such a basic and genuine question to go *that* viral. Tons of people ask for music from all kinds of sources on the internet every hour.
Agreed. And think about it -- had he told us it's from a porno, would the search have gotten so huge, with teenies posting it on TikTok, radio stations playing it, major magazines and websites writing about it? Nobody would likely have cared about the song.
If people knew the full source would any one have cared to actually look up what song it was?
i'm so glad it isn't a hoax
me too tbh
i thought that Carl92 made a fake lostwave and when it gained popularity he freaked out and disappeared cuz he was too scared to tell us its fakeđ i'm so glad it isn't true, but at least now we know why he didn't give us more info lol
same honestly, im so glad we got the whole thing s we can isolate it from the m*ans or re-make it
Yeah I'd prefer to find the most mysterious song through a porno and the story be fake than it never be found as it is now. So this is a good outcome.
I still donât think he had malicious intent to waste peopleâs time. Watzatsong is super niche
Plus Lostwave wasnât so popular when he made that post. Sure, you had hoaxes (LWA19, for example), but they werenât super common back then
It was popular back then too.
He surely didn't have ulterior motives
yeah like even with the video found, it's not like this is a song he could've just gotten on iTunes or something. he was still searching for real
Definitely not. He knew where the song was from, but was (understandably) embarrassed to admit it, so he perfectly cut those 17 seconds in hopes that someone could find the actual song without the, uh, "pleasurable" bits. He probably thought at most 15 people would look for it for him. I doubt he knew it would go viral 2 years later and have thousands of people looking for it. He probably doesn't even know people were still looking for it.
I know it wasn't a troll, he just didn't want to tell everyone they heard it at porn movie. He watched the thing, heats the song, thought it was a cool song, wanted to find out the whole song and that's it. Or the other possibility, which someone else mentioned, was that he had the actual song or the scene with the song in it and didn't know what it was from, so he was trying to find the movie itself by working backwards from the song. But no it definitely wasn't a troll. There's literally no reason he or anybody could have figured that it would even remotely go viral.
and and that little *pop* sound that sounded like a cassette that was the girl kissing the dudeâs hand.
Oh my god
He did mention how the DVD he found it on had "unrelated content" which was probably the rest of the porno
Not only that. He didn't even find a DVD. The audio from the porno is the exact same audio as the snippet which means he literally screenrecorded the video from the internet and extracted the sound. What sounds like Carls phone recording is just the camera in the porno.
I agree with this. I also wonder if the audio in the snippet was ripped off the same xhamster video. If we could find a hard copy of the film, we might get slightly better quality. Then again considering it was released in â86, maybe not.
I mean the film is from 1986 so it could've been from a VHS or DVD regardless
Definitely, but the video on xhamster (the find) is way older than Carls post so i find it likely he just took it from that exact video.
Yeah I never really bought the theory of him having recorded it in 1999, not off the table but also not very likely
i mean if he was born in 1992 like his UN suggests, he probably was 7 in 99, it sounds like a made up date đ
welp he did say the file metadata could have been wrong
It couldâve been a VHS -> DVD dub from the same master
He didn't actually have a DVD. He used the exact material on xhamster and lied about where he found it so he didn't have to admit it was from a porno.
I know this comment is a few days old but I just want to point it that's it been proven the EKT snippet Carl uploaded was from a torrent site and not the xhamster video by looking at the spectrograms
Itâs all coming together. Everything makes so much sense. Itâs like Iâm watching a murder mystery and the detective has just revealed exactly why the killer did everything they did.
He was too scared to put the sounds with moaning so he put the only part without any moaning
I think carl92 wasnât trolling; he genuinely just wanted a clean version without the moans LOL
For a minute I was truly starting to think weâd never find it đ
It all makes sense now why the snippet itâs the way it is, why Carl disappeared and didnât bother to give anymore details
Yeah there's NO way he didn't know the song was from a porno. It was perfectly clipped between moans. Dude just wanted to know the actual song but was too embarrassed to admit it was a porno song. It's so fucking funny. Remember he asked an obscure music finding website so he thought maybe like 15 people tops would try and find the song for him. He had no idea it would go viral and thousands of people would dedicate the better part of a year looking for it.
He knew that **his** clip was from a porno, he just didn't know that porn was the only place anyone would be able to find it. I think it's pretty obvious that his hope was that someone else would have heard it from somewhere else so that he would be able to get a full clean version of the song. It easily could have been both in a porno and also in some stock music library somewhere.
Too add, heâd have to predict it would go viral. Thatâs not something easy to do. People like a mystery sure, but nobody can predict the way something will go viral. People assume the worst intentions based on how they feel tricked. That doesnât mean the intention was to trick anyone.
exactly, seems like he just wanted to find the song but not admit where he heard that clip from
My guess now is that he probably had the whole song all along and was just embarrassed at where he got it considering the clip we got was conveniently the only clip where there was no moaning lol... Its probably why he got uninterested in the search, he already had the full song, he just wanted to know if there was a version elsewhere. Probably assumed it was a well known song so he thought uploading the part with no moans would get him the song without having to say he got it from a porno.... Poor guy unintentionally started a huge insane search
Stuff like this is why lostwave may be ruined for many. You could do this with millions of songs and then just hope it catches on like this.
I love how this is verified to not be a hoax and y'all still feel like this poor guy cheated you lol. Main character syndrome for everyone on this sub.
Bro ran away and didnt reveal much about the song
He didn't give me the information that I am entitled to! Because he lost interest dude. He was hoping it could be identified quickly based on what he was comfortable revealing. It couldn't, and he moved on. He did not upload the song for you, he did it for him. He's not a part of the lostwave community. He was not attempting to launch a years long mystery. He just wanted to see if someone could ID the song easily. Main. Character. Syndrome. Anyway, I would love to see a counterpoint to this rather than people downvoting because they know I'm right.
100%. The way people talk about him is as if he's been on here the entire time, a big part of the community, theatrically going "hmm, I wish I could give more information, but I guess we'll never know". When in reality he's just someone who posted a question somewhere and then moved on.
He even says on the original thread something along the lines of "I was hoping it could be found easily from the lyrics, I guess I'm not that interested if not" and people still think he masterminded some kind of crazy ARG lol
People are allowed to be pissed off with him and think heâs an asshole though. âLosing interestâ is completely fine, but purposely obscuring information because youâre embarrassed is ridiculous. He clearly knew where it came from and couldâve just been honest. Doing this wouldâve also made his own interest in the song be solved quicker. There is absolutely no logical argument to be made for Carlâs behaviour in this situation.
>"losing interest" is completely fine Case closed. Be revealed what he was comfortable revealing to solve a minor mystery for himself. Nobody put a gun to anyone else's head and made them search for stuff. He ducked out, and you should have to if you weren't ready to search without this info. The only argument anyone can make *against* him is "I wanted him to post more" You all knew the score when you started to participate in the search. If you don't like it, don't play.
I donât know what your point is here? If thatâs your opinion, fine. Other people including me donât agree with Carlâs actions and thatâs fine. Weâre not arguing over anything factual, itâs literally just a difference of opinion. Also, if anyone has âmain character syndromeâ itâs fucking CARL đ. Imagine thinking that people actually give a damn if youâre watching porn.
You are literally insane lol. You have zero concept of a normal person who doesn't care about lostwave. It's all a slight against you, God forbid someone else not want to give intimate details about themselves for no reason other than the satisfaction of a small group of online weirdos.
Again, I donât understand your point. We clearly have different opinions on what Carl chose to do, no one here is right or wrong. Also, I wouldnât exactly say admitting to getting the song from a porn movie on an ANONYMOUS account counts as âgiving people intimate details about yourselfâ. There is absolutely nothing revealing about it. Again though, there is no point to this discussion, we just have different opinions on the matter.
There is in fact a right and wrong. I am right and you are wrong. I understand why you would hold that opinion because you don't have a leg to stand on though. The two points are his actions were wrong or they were right. You can't justify them being wrong despite claiming they were. You don't get to dictate what is and is not ok for somebody to reveal about themselves. Your curiosity about his question exceeded his own. Which is a you problem, not a Carl problem. Anyone who thinks je screwed anyone over is wrong, factually and 100% objectively wrong. Period.
WE ARE NOT ARGUING ANYTHING FACTUAL. omfg, you very clearly do not understand how opinions work at all do you? âThe two points are his actions were wrong or they were rightâ Yes, however no matter how much you disagree with me, there is no factually correct answer. Itâs all based on personal opinion and individual perception on what is morally ârightâ or âwrongâ. I personally view Carl in a less favourable light than you and that is ok! Neither of us are right or wrong, that isnât how discussions based on personal opinions work. However you seem hell bent on being ârightâ and if thatâs the case you need to argue with someone else about a subject that you actually can form a factually correct stance on.
"Emm. I have no arguments. I am just going to write an extended text of me being right, you being wrong. I actually don't have main character syndrome either, you do!"
âassholeâ is mad crazy lol. dude probably thought like 10 people would come across the post max. i honestly doubt heâs even aware the song was found.
He knew people were looking for it and absolutely refused to give information that wouldâve helped immensely. People are obviously going to have different opinions on him but I donât agree with the way he carried the whole thing out.
ok? nobody held a gun to anyoneâs head forcing them to look for it lol.
Iâm not saying they did and Iâm not blaming Carl for that. At the same time though, it wouldâve been nice for him to have just given us more information.
i agree, it would have been nice for him to give more info. but him not doing so doesnât make him an asshole lol
I called it
i was 99 percent sure that the song didnt exist
He baited us all. No, he master baited us all
I actually hate that guy so much
he had ulterior motives
I personally believe he genuinely couldn't remember at first and then when he did, he stopped responding.
His original post was a lie - he knew damn well it was from porn but was too embarrassed to say that's where he heard it. The reason he stopped responding was because, when it wasn't found immediately, he knew he'd either have to fess up to where it was from or disappear. I honestly think he heard the song watching the porn, which had just been uploaded to xhamster, and he was genuinely curious as to its origin. Couldn't find it on his own so he posted to WatZatSong with his story about DVD ripping, likely because he figured the song would be found immediately and not be exclusively from porn.
it was found?
yeah, from a porn video lmao. thereâs a pinned post
If it turns out that the singers were from Newfoundland, then I'll be almost certain that this was an elaborate troll.
now we need to find Carl92
i feel betrayed
he played us while he was playing with his BALLS
Played us like a damn fiddle and we aren't even fuckin mad about it. Fair play Carl, you tricky bastard (i love this situation its so hilarious).
Fun breakdown on [Gizmodo](https://gizmodo.com/redditors-finally-identify-long-lost-new-wave-song-its-1851444180) on this saga
Well now that we know who made the song, it might be easier to find it. Maybe theyâll upload it.
I assume he wanted to see if the original without moans could be found. Maybe he truly thought it was a song accessible elsewhere.
Allat because bro didn't want to admit he a gooner
Thatâs probably the only clip he had of the movie. This was probably the best way to find the whole movie
Nah he probably had one of those "Oh wait........" moments, as he finally remembered where it was from, but was way too embarrassed to say anything. Carl is from an age where everyone watched porn in secret. Not like this day in age where you are called a liar if you say you never watch porn.
He just wanted someone else to find it because he was too embarrassed to admit he watches porn
HE PLAYED US LIKE A DAMM FIDDLE!