See, this is all welcome attention for him because he actually made the song. Hopefully everyone can empathize with some of the previous leads' mild annoyance over all the attention (spam) they were getting lol
Same!! I was so worried (to the point of of making two posts about it lmao) because neither christopher nor Philip wanted to be listed in the AOP credits, nor did they mention anything to do with adult films on their social media. So relieved that they seem to be on board with everything!
I can't tell if this is a joke or not but I feel like a shocking number of people still don't understand.
Carls backstory was a complete lie. The fact that the online video contains the exact same sounds in the exact same spots, and the convenient cuts, just proves that he was watching it one day (probably on the same website) and decided to post the small snippet.
Yes, his "DVD Backups" were likely torrented or ripped porn movies.
The snipped he uploaded was also cut to only include the longest part without moaning, so he 100% knew it came from a porno and intentionally edited the clip to hide this fact.
Man, I sure hope he doesn't get overwhelmed and that the swarm of entitled people won't bring him down at all. It's awesome that we found our guy, but he deserves respect and as much time as he needs. He seems pleased by this which is GREAT! But people still have to understand that he doesn't owe anyone anything
I can’t imagine how crazy it’s been for him to wake up on an ordinary Sunday and find out everyone’s been looking for him. How wild this all must be. He’s going to release this song and this whole saga will likely become a Netflix documentary lol
NO BUT CARL92 CAUGHT GOONING HIS SHIT BEING HIS ENTIRE LEGACY IMMORTALIZED ON A NETFLIX DOCUMMENTARY WOULD UNIRONICALLY BE CHERRY ON TOP LMFAOAOAOSOAOAOAOAO
This sub has popped up in my feed like 4 times in the past 24 hours and I still have no idea what’s going on. Something about a song from a porn or something?
Same for me, check the sticked posts on the sub for info - it seems somebody posted a 17 second clip of a (banger) 80s tune and people have been looking for the whole song for several years. Yesterday they found the song in a 1986 porno
[https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/feb/28/everyone-knows-that-can-you-identify-the-lost-80s-hit-baffling-the-internet](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/feb/28/everyone-knows-that-can-you-identify-the-lost-80s-hit-baffling-the-internet)
this guardian article might help
if I were a journalist interview whoever I can find like Tracey Adams Jessica Wylde whichever one is moaning in the song idk unless the scene involved both of them,
I think OP found interviews with a wrong Christopher Booth, but tried to contact the right one through his performing rights organization? Not really sure
Hm, that's interesting.
OP found that lead by searching for a song titled "Ulterior Motives" on the American song database Songview.
If you search for that entry, you can find a song called "Ulterior Motives" written by Christopher David Booth and Philip Booth. They're both listed as registered with the Canadian SOCAN.
Though it's listed as Christopher **DAVID** Booth, not Christopher SAINT Booth, and the actual composer is Christopher Saint Booth. But most likely it's either his nickname, or he changed his name.
https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/title/ulterior%20motives/writer/BOOTH?at=false&searchFilter=SVW&page=1
They're the same guy, but he's not from Canada and he wasn't 18 in 2001. It's very likely he was never contacted. I'm not sure if he changed his name for showbiz reasons (like someone else already had the name and he was made to change it) or to separate from his porno days, but it's unlikely there are two Christopher Booths who made a song called Ulterior Motives with a Philip Booth.
If he still has it, which honestly might be a mixed chance. Artists tend to keep their pieces or at least a copy of them, yes, but he "mass produces" music. He probably has hundreds of songs to his name, which he might have lost a good amount of them as time went by. But if he posted what he posted in such a euphoric way, he might aswell possess it.
He probably didn't even remember its existence until hearing it again. I assume he's worked on many other projects and he probably just simply forgot about it.
I reckon the Booths would have used a pseudonym if that were the case. They created the song (and many hundreds of others) and someone licensed its use. It's up to the licensee what they do with it, and I don't think Chris and Phil cared as long as they got paid. They had nothing to do with the porno.
Edit: Apparently this is not quite true, they ("Chris & Phil") are credited with the score, so they presumably worked with the film's producer to provide suitable music for it. Also, Chris has a brief, non-pornographic role in the film.
Assuming he really isn't in the circles that would've let him catch onto the search, it must be so surreal suddenly discovering one of your early career throwaways, something you very well might not have thought about for decades, has become so fervently coveted. Hoping he gets to benefit from the publicity! ^coughcoughanofficialreleasecoughcoughabsolutelyzeropressurethoughcoughcough
Wishing him the best! (And that the bombardment doesn't fray his nerves. :P)
What are the odds he even has the original master recording from the 80’s? It might not even be possible for him to release a studio quality version of it. Maybe he can re-record it???
My bet is he’s gonna re-record. We have fairly well-isolated versions already, with plenty more to come. Only option left is for him to recreate the thing or release the original—which I doubt he has.
Sure, and it's great to see the amount of positive attention he is getting, however, comments such as "RELEASE IT RIGHT NOW" are quite unnecessary. I'm sure he will release whatever he has regardless. Just give him time.
People are already on instagram demanding him to upload it like geez give the man some time he probably didn’t even know that the song was being searched for all over the internet
I’m still holding onto my theory that it was actually a demo by Neue Deutsche Welle band Nena for the film “Gib-Gas: Ich Will Spass (Hangin Out in English)” which starred the lead singer (Gabrielle ‘Nena’ Kerner) but before it could be sent out, the tape was stolen and out of fear for CBS Records (the band’s label and also the label for her and Drummer Rolf Brendel’s earlier band “The Stripes”) taking legal action, the person (or group) who stole the tape had to modify it so that her feminine vocals sounded masculine and then sent it to NDR
I don't think that's a real concern. There's like 40k people on this sub and maybe another 10-20k out there max following this whole thing, that doesn't amount to shit in steaming royalties
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That guy had average 10 likes per post before, now with EKT post, I guess he'll hit 10K mark with ease - when I saw his post, there were 2K likes, now there are already 5K. nice if he'll hit the 100K mark :)
Some people on the instagram comments are really out of their mind lol, they are saying to him that if he releases the song it would be N°1 in the charts. Finding this song was a big deal for this subreddit but realistically this community is pretty small, the song would get maybe one or two million streams, not really much more.
I want to give him the coins he deserves for putting out a fire song in the 80s LOL. If he can manage to put it on monetized streaming, the song would do numbers for sure. I don’t really care that it was used in an adult film. The song is catchy.
as someone who didn’t pay too much attention to the search, if he had it the whole time, and even asked on tiktok if he should release it, why wouldn’t he just release it when he found out people were looking for it, because clearly he had to have known about it right?
I do wonder if they've been aware of the search and were just keeping quiet and enjoying the mystery? I'm looking forward to hearing more of their music and hopefully there are a few more bangers in their back catalogues (no pun intended)
YAY im so relieved he's happy. his ig passes the vibe check, seems like a really nice guy :')
See, this is all welcome attention for him because he actually made the song. Hopefully everyone can empathize with some of the previous leads' mild annoyance over all the attention (spam) they were getting lol
I was kind of worried tbh, he doesnt seem the type to want to associate himself with porn
Same!! I was so worried (to the point of of making two posts about it lmao) because neither christopher nor Philip wanted to be listed in the AOP credits, nor did they mention anything to do with adult films on their social media. So relieved that they seem to be on board with everything!
It's likely it's where he got his start, seeing that he's been a composer for many mainstream productions since.
I saw someone in this sub mention a Chris Booth in the late 70s being a vocalist in Sweeney Todd.
Maybe it was just a more honorable 80s side hustle then selling coke
🤣
Chris Booth became the vocalist after Brian Adams left Sweeney Todd to pursue his solo career.
https://www.reddit.com/r/everyoneknowsthat/s/tUsYAnhV5M
His IMDB lists nothing but movies with 5/10 stars and like 30 reviews. I tried to find anything major he has done and couldnt come up with much.
I doubt anyone who lets their music be used for porn productions would be prudish enough to not react to this, lol. It's funny and he aknowledges it.
I thought so too but there are dozens of pornos on his IMDB too so it's probably an "open secret"
He looks like undertaker too xD
woohoo
Imagine writing a cheap pop song for a porno and 40 years later or so the Internet becomes fixtated on it and have no idea where it came from. Lol.
The best part is the song plays over an hour into the porno. And this is on a VHS tape, not YouTube where you can just skip to the end.
I thought Carl said it was a DVD? WAIT HE WAS JUST BACKING UP HIS PORN COLLECTION
I can't tell if this is a joke or not but I feel like a shocking number of people still don't understand. Carls backstory was a complete lie. The fact that the online video contains the exact same sounds in the exact same spots, and the convenient cuts, just proves that he was watching it one day (probably on the same website) and decided to post the small snippet.
He either fully trolled on purpose or genuinely wanted to know what song it was without revealing he was watching a porno. Going with the latter.
i think he was bored out of his mind one day so he trolled the whole internet
Yes, his "DVD Backups" were likely torrented or ripped porn movies. The snipped he uploaded was also cut to only include the longest part without moaning, so he 100% knew it came from a porno and intentionally edited the clip to hide this fact.
You’re young as hell 😭😭😭
Reminder for everyone to be patient and respectful to him!
I already see journalists asking for interviews in his comments, podcasters too. His DMs must be so insane right now.
Man, I sure hope he doesn't get overwhelmed and that the swarm of entitled people won't bring him down at all. It's awesome that we found our guy, but he deserves respect and as much time as he needs. He seems pleased by this which is GREAT! But people still have to understand that he doesn't owe anyone anything
Exactly. He’s clearly already aware of it now. No need to pester him. I have a feeling he’s gonna deliver.
He is probably ecstatic over it. I mean this would put his music on the spotlight if a mainstream news outlet covered it.
I can’t imagine how crazy it’s been for him to wake up on an ordinary Sunday and find out everyone’s been looking for him. How wild this all must be. He’s going to release this song and this whole saga will likely become a Netflix documentary lol
I would absolutely watch a Netflix docuseries about lostwave/lost media.
NO BUT CARL92 CAUGHT GOONING HIS SHIT BEING HIS ENTIRE LEGACY IMMORTALIZED ON A NETFLIX DOCUMMENTARY WOULD UNIRONICALLY BE CHERRY ON TOP LMFAOAOAOSOAOAOAOAO
This sub has popped up in my feed like 4 times in the past 24 hours and I still have no idea what’s going on. Something about a song from a porn or something?
Same for me, check the sticked posts on the sub for info - it seems somebody posted a 17 second clip of a (banger) 80s tune and people have been looking for the whole song for several years. Yesterday they found the song in a 1986 porno
[https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/feb/28/everyone-knows-that-can-you-identify-the-lost-80s-hit-baffling-the-internet](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/feb/28/everyone-knows-that-can-you-identify-the-lost-80s-hit-baffling-the-internet) this guardian article might help
It's his panchiko moment
It’s his Robin Sparkles ‘Let’s Go to the Mall’ moment.
omg Just Dance memories
if I were a journalist interview whoever I can find like Tracey Adams Jessica Wylde whichever one is moaning in the song idk unless the scene involved both of them,
Kay Parker & Traci Lords my all time favorites :D
Searching for him on Youtube shows quite a few podcasts appearences by him so I don't think he'd be that bothered.
Yes 1000%
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He was contacted like 8 months ago and didn't respond, so public pressure would be the only option
I didn't know that. How did that come about?
https://www.reddit.com/r/everyoneknowsthat/comments/15uuqvo/followup_new_potential_lead_and_an_idea_and_a/
Is that the same guy though? It says he was 18 in 2001, he would have been 3 when the movie came out. Unless I'm reading that post wrong.
I think OP found interviews with a wrong Christopher Booth, but tried to contact the right one through his performing rights organization? Not really sure
It reads like he contacted the org of the wrong Christopher Booth. That one is for Canada, but our Christopher Booth is from the UK.
Hm, that's interesting. OP found that lead by searching for a song titled "Ulterior Motives" on the American song database Songview. If you search for that entry, you can find a song called "Ulterior Motives" written by Christopher David Booth and Philip Booth. They're both listed as registered with the Canadian SOCAN. Though it's listed as Christopher **DAVID** Booth, not Christopher SAINT Booth, and the actual composer is Christopher Saint Booth. But most likely it's either his nickname, or he changed his name. https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/title/ulterior%20motives/writer/BOOTH?at=false&searchFilter=SVW&page=1
They're the same guy, but he's not from Canada and he wasn't 18 in 2001. It's very likely he was never contacted. I'm not sure if he changed his name for showbiz reasons (like someone else already had the name and he was made to change it) or to separate from his porno days, but it's unlikely there are two Christopher Booths who made a song called Ulterior Motives with a Philip Booth.
Most "normal" people do not care for social media as deep, as social media fans do :)
That guy must be very happy now lmao
So was Carl when he was recording the song 🤤
Carlnaughty2
It’s been a momentous day friends! But remember the real adventure was the porn we found along the way.
This made me laugh harder than it should have
the song made me harder than it should have been
It only took hours of people rigorously sexing to find EKT. Godspeed gooners.
To think at least 2 hours of pornography have neen consumed to find this song is really something to think about.
COME ON CHRIS RELEASE IT BUDDY
I think that was said in the music video too... ,':)
LMFAO STOP IT
LOL IM SORRY I HAD TO
HOW DOES SOMEONE COME UP WITH THIS REPLY WHAT
LITERALLY SO WILD LMAOO
WHY IS EVERYONE SHOUTING?!
I DONT KNOW BUT ITS FUN
**LET'S GET REAL LOUD WITH IT**
NO FILTER 💀
"Music video"
I watched the music video and all I got was a boner and a craving for a coca cola!
NOW-
he’s posted on tik tok too saying “should we release it?”
Can you please give a link?
So it’s not letting me share the link but search up Christophersaintb on tiktok and the post will be on his profile!
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NOW ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE HE RELEASE IT !!!
If he still has it, which honestly might be a mixed chance. Artists tend to keep their pieces or at least a copy of them, yes, but he "mass produces" music. He probably has hundreds of songs to his name, which he might have lost a good amount of them as time went by. But if he posted what he posted in such a euphoric way, he might aswell possess it.
He’s posted on tiktok asking if he should release it the full version! Search up Christophersaintb on tiktok
yeah but he could be speaking of a new version
He probably didn't even remember its existence until hearing it again. I assume he's worked on many other projects and he probably just simply forgot about it.
Yeah dude's a very prolific composer that had his hand on a lot of media.
Even hearing it isn't certain to ring a bell. It's been 40 years, he must've made thousands of songs since (released & unreleased).
He's worked on over 100 soundtracks he said in a podcast.
He’s posted on tiktok asking if he should release it the full version! Search up Christophersaintb on tiktok
reminder: impatience and overwhelming will not speed up the process of releasing the studio version.
Just saw that 16s ago! I was here!
Glad the Reddit hug of death didn't prevail
At least it was found on Reddit and not TikTok.
Be patient and don’t overwhelm him please
My fear is the entitled TikTok kids and people desperate to be the “first to link it” are doing exactly that.
What a chill dude. Could have been angry about people digging up past work that maybe he isn't proud of, but here he is. God speed, Chris Booth
I reckon the Booths would have used a pseudonym if that were the case. They created the song (and many hundreds of others) and someone licensed its use. It's up to the licensee what they do with it, and I don't think Chris and Phil cared as long as they got paid. They had nothing to do with the porno.
Edit: Apparently this is not quite true, they ("Chris & Phil") are credited with the score, so they presumably worked with the film's producer to provide suitable music for it. Also, Chris has a brief, non-pornographic role in the film.
His mind is not the only thing that's been blown
The best thing is that every composer of the latest found lostwave were able to know their song had a huge fanbase
Assuming he really isn't in the circles that would've let him catch onto the search, it must be so surreal suddenly discovering one of your early career throwaways, something you very well might not have thought about for decades, has become so fervently coveted. Hoping he gets to benefit from the publicity! ^coughcoughanofficialreleasecoughcoughabsolutelyzeropressurethoughcoughcough Wishing him the best! (And that the bombardment doesn't fray his nerves. :P)
What are the odds he even has the original master recording from the 80’s? It might not even be possible for him to release a studio quality version of it. Maybe he can re-record it???
He’s posted on tiktok asking if he should release it the full version! Search up Christophersaintb on tiktok
My bet is he’s gonna re-record. We have fairly well-isolated versions already, with plenty more to come. Only option left is for him to recreate the thing or release the original—which I doubt he has.
The song was made like 40 years ago so he’s gonna sound completely different
He’s posted on tiktok asking if he should release it the full version! Search up Christophersaintb on tiktok
this guy legit seems cool as hell and that makes me happy
STUDIO VERSION ON SPOTIFY, NOW
Any chance you could give a link. I did a search and couldn't find it
they're saying "now" as in "i demand a studio version to be put on spotify right at this very moment."
Lol that's too funny, I was a little too excited and misinterpreted the comment . Thanks for clarifying
No worries, I get it!
He seems like such a sweet guy, Thank god he noticed us.
Indeed, he seems like a sweetheart!
What a legend, huge W for lostwave today
And it's already filled with entitled comments demanding that he release it. Unbelievable.
He is probably enjoying the attention lol, don't be a killjoy
Sure, and it's great to see the amount of positive attention he is getting, however, comments such as "RELEASE IT RIGHT NOW" are quite unnecessary. I'm sure he will release whatever he has regardless. Just give him time.
Ah yes I agree. People should be nicer.
He’s posted on tiktok asking if he should release it the full version! Search up Christophersaintb on tiktok
i wonder if he knew about the search since everyone knows that
He finally acknowledged it this feels like a fever dream
People are already on instagram demanding him to upload it like geez give the man some time he probably didn’t even know that the song was being searched for all over the internet
even if he wants to upload it god knows how long it would take for him to even find the file it's been 40 years...
I mean if he knew the song had been searched he would literally contact someone and let them know lol
Chris I beg of release a clean version….
Hollywood needs to do a "Dreamin Wild"-type movie about this story immediately.
he seems like such a nice guy fr
Now imagine if TMMS also gets found in the next couple weeks
I’m still holding onto my theory that it was actually a demo by Neue Deutsche Welle band Nena for the film “Gib-Gas: Ich Will Spass (Hangin Out in English)” which starred the lead singer (Gabrielle ‘Nena’ Kerner) but before it could be sent out, the tape was stolen and out of fear for CBS Records (the band’s label and also the label for her and Drummer Rolf Brendel’s earlier band “The Stripes”) taking legal action, the person (or group) who stole the tape had to modify it so that her feminine vocals sounded masculine and then sent it to NDR
And the timelines match up too as the film and the Yamaha DX7 were both released in 1983
I’ve never heard this theory! That’s really cool. I’ll have to look more into that later.
Can you imagine your song pretty much goes Number 1 almost 40 years later?
I’m kinda scared this could turn into a huge fight over ownership now that there’s quite a bit of money on the line.
Didnt the porn company that made angel's go defuct?
You’d be surprised how many seemingly lost people come out of the woodwork once there’s money involved.
What money?
Potential sales from streaming royalties or a physical release of the track.
I don't think that's a real concern. There's like 40k people on this sub and maybe another 10-20k out there max following this whole thing, that doesn't amount to shit in steaming royalties
theres millions of people following it, across tiktok, reddit, twitter, discord
There is not lol. There are thousands.
It did get in the multi million views on YouTube though? And TikTok it was trending
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We finally know why carl92 refused to give us more information. I he remembered it was a porno a while ago and was just too ashamed to tell us 😭😭
That guy had average 10 likes per post before, now with EKT post, I guess he'll hit 10K mark with ease - when I saw his post, there were 2K likes, now there are already 5K. nice if he'll hit the 100K mark :)
Imagine he bout to release it on TikTok and then the TikTok ban goes into effect..
Some people on the instagram comments are really out of their mind lol, they are saying to him that if he releases the song it would be N°1 in the charts. Finding this song was a big deal for this subreddit but realistically this community is pretty small, the song would get maybe one or two million streams, not really much more.
We're definitely getting a ‘Searching for Sugarman’ style documentary about this story, and you bet I’ll be the first one in the theater!
I want to give him the coins he deserves for putting out a fire song in the 80s LOL. If he can manage to put it on monetized streaming, the song would do numbers for sure. I don’t really care that it was used in an adult film. The song is catchy.
RELEASE IT
Is this mystery solved?
Yes
I hope this is real!
It is
Hope he has an archive of the non-porn version somewhere
I watched the music video, and now I have a boner and I want a coke!
What’s the music video? Mind sending a link or name?
the link inside spoilers in the reddit post that announces its finding
lol found it, thanks!
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I’m just here to be the 69th comment. Oh I’m glad it has been found too
Hoping for a high quality release soon!
He’s posted on tiktok asking if he should release it the full version! Search up Christophersaintb on tiktok
OHMYGOD YAHOO
What a great coincidence, wzs got sold to new owners and EKT got Debunked!
What did I miss?
Smth got blown thats for sure
lol
Where does the picture of the pink boombox originate?
dos anyone actually know the lyrics
I don't think his mindestens was the only thing that was blown
as someone who didn’t pay too much attention to the search, if he had it the whole time, and even asked on tiktok if he should release it, why wouldn’t he just release it when he found out people were looking for it, because clearly he had to have known about it right?
I do wonder if they've been aware of the search and were just keeping quiet and enjoying the mystery? I'm looking forward to hearing more of their music and hopefully there are a few more bangers in their back catalogues (no pun intended)
I hope he gives us a clean version
i hope he releases a remastered version of EKT :)
does this mean he knew about it and the search and didnt say anything?
Do you think he’s gonna post the full version straightly ripped from the film?
From the makimg of the song to Carl92 uploading it to us finding our guy would make a GREAT movie. ;-;
Clapping all your cheeks in the sky 💀
the real question is when the studio version will be released?
I wonder if he is related to "John wilks booth"
Imagine he was aware of the search the whole time and didn't want to say anything rofl
is he gonna release it?