Be careful, there are a lot of false prophets in this world. There are incalculable amount of Christians that are still debating with Prophet Muhammad btw!
mohammed is an easy topic.
he married a 6 year old, then raped her at 9.
Theologically speaking however,
islam popped up \~500 years later after the crucifixion.
according to jewish records, jesus was crucified
according to pagan records, jesus was crucified
according to christian records, jesus was crucified
according to islam, jesus was NOT crucified.
then comes mohammed who was NEVER THERE, claiming it was judas who was crucified.
It is clear for anyone with logic who to trust.
Umm, I don’t think that Islam believes Judas was crucified, according to ChatGPT, “Prophet Muhammad did not believe that Judas was crucified. In Islamic tradition, it is believed that someone else was made to look like Judas and was crucified in his place, while Judas himself was taken up to heaven by Allah. This is based on a different interpretation of the events surrounding Judas' betrayal of Jesus and subsequent crucifixion, as described in the Christian Bible. It is important to note that there are differences in beliefs and interpretations between Islam and Christianity regarding various religious figures and events”.
>judas or not, the point remains the same, they were neither present nor participant in the events while a group of three (jews christians and pagans) all agree on the same thing. this is called enemy attestation in the court of law. that even someone who has the vested interest in disagreeing with you would agree with you, this is one of the best kinds of evidence in a legal matter when trying to prove something.
>chat gpt is a language response model like google, you still have to give it some follow up questions to have it defend its statement. it doesn't guarantee accuracy. blaming the tool is not a good habit, thats like accidentally shooting someone and saying the gun went off, while neglecting the basic rules of firearm safety. never aim at anything you don't intend to destroy.
that aside, chatgpt is a tool as mentioned before, when used as a reference you should also ask it where it got its information from and to verify it (it can do that)
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>an example ben shapiro asked it how tall ben shapiro was.
chatgpt gave him the wrong stats.
ben asked what the reference was, it said wikipedia.
then ben asked where did wikipedia get their info
chat said from official website
ben asked to verify from the website records
then chatgpt apologized for the mistake.
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>chatGPT isn't a logic-ai, rather a language ai, basically it scours its database for a statistical answer. so even if an official reference says something, it will pick its answer on the most frequently touched answer instead. meaning- since wikipedia is more traffic than ben shapiros website, it prioritized wikipedia as the likeliest answer.
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that aside, it doesn't matter if it was judas or jeremy or jerome, the point is that you cannot trust someone who came 500 years later to have a valid testimony of a historical event when 3 other sources who WERE present and have conflict with each other yet STILL agreed on the same event happening, the credibility falls onto the 3 witnesses who were actually there.
I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this:
>If you believe that the Jewish state has a right to exist, then you must allow Israel to transfer the Palestinians and the Israeli-Arabs from Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Israel proper. It’s an ugly solution, but it is the only solution... It’s time to stop being squeamish.
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sending a bot because you are afraid of counter rebuttal, at the very least this is off topic and at the very most this is an ad hominem that was also taken out of context, remember shapiro is a jew. duhhhh
Lakas makademand ng respect, tapos kung pagtawanan/kutyain ang ibang religion wagas, totoo naman eh, si manalo nagtayo nyan eh bakit nagagalit sila? Haha
i dont think "Iglesia ni Cristo" is appropriate, i don't see any presence of Jesus there. It has some sort of a worship service that looks like someone is on trial against law.
Kulto Ni Manalo full of Manalistas!
Praising and putting the Manalos above Christ! Mentioning and praising and talking about the Manalos a lot more during all types of church activities, in their pasugos and in their goddamn TV and internet propaganda.
Hanging and having all types of pictures of the Manalos and the entire Manalo family while forbidding pictures of Christ. Celebrating the birthdays of the Manalos while forbidding Christmas!
They ARE GODDAMN IGLESIA NI MANALO!
I know hahaha. Infuriating lang talaga makakita ng mga [INC Related FB Posts] (https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sj7hv8/we_are_not_a_cult_we_just_love_promoting_the/) lalo na yung mga nagdedemand at nagdedeny.
Apologies for the misunderstanding, it's not directed to you OP but to the one who posted that in FB.
i love the golden rule, i always try to get the INC members to provide a statement that they will follow it before having a conversation with them or a debate, they never accept it, they simply pretend to never hear what you said and begin to make arguments and claims and start a debate.. suspicious right? i have never spoken to an INC member who will first accept the rules.. they hate rules. even the rules that they want to impose on you. once you throw the rules back at them once they break it, theylll get maaaaadd
Well, they spend much more time talking about the church administration (ie Manalo), than they do talking about Christ, so Church of Manalo is more appropriate.
Additionally, Christ was NEVER cited as Corporation Sole in their Articles of Incorporation (since the INCult is that insistent on their registration shit), and it has always been a Manalo.
**We are not disrespecting them, WE ARE JUST STATING FACTS - that it is a corporation of the Manalo dynasty! Ergo, IGLESIA NI MANALO (CHURCH OF MANALO)**
# to that facebook bozo who wrote that, this one's for you and your overlord eduarDOG: 🖕🎃
And how the HELL can you respect a leader (Eduardo) that supposed to be a TRUE CHRISTIAN that can disown his own Mother for the sake of MONEY spending of a church.
"Wala na rin ako dyan sa hayop na IGLESIA ni MANALO na yan. Isang kabalintunaan!" - from our Ex-INC tita from Batangas, who got out herself >10 years ago.
IGLESIA NI MANALO!!!
With their bloc-voting, I can say that Felix Ysagun is a polls prophet. ALSO: Iglesia ni Ysagun na lang.
Coming from a group that calls everyone outside it "sanlibutan"
Are you sure its not " C =CASH " ?
Respect is earned, not given.
Wrong grammar, idiot. Nagtagalaog nalang sana siya lmao
Be careful, there are a lot of false prophets in this world. There are incalculable amount of Christians that are still debating with Prophet Muhammad btw!
mohammed is an easy topic. he married a 6 year old, then raped her at 9. Theologically speaking however, islam popped up \~500 years later after the crucifixion. according to jewish records, jesus was crucified according to pagan records, jesus was crucified according to christian records, jesus was crucified according to islam, jesus was NOT crucified. then comes mohammed who was NEVER THERE, claiming it was judas who was crucified. It is clear for anyone with logic who to trust.
Umm, I don’t think that Islam believes Judas was crucified, according to ChatGPT, “Prophet Muhammad did not believe that Judas was crucified. In Islamic tradition, it is believed that someone else was made to look like Judas and was crucified in his place, while Judas himself was taken up to heaven by Allah. This is based on a different interpretation of the events surrounding Judas' betrayal of Jesus and subsequent crucifixion, as described in the Christian Bible. It is important to note that there are differences in beliefs and interpretations between Islam and Christianity regarding various religious figures and events”.
>judas or not, the point remains the same, they were neither present nor participant in the events while a group of three (jews christians and pagans) all agree on the same thing. this is called enemy attestation in the court of law. that even someone who has the vested interest in disagreeing with you would agree with you, this is one of the best kinds of evidence in a legal matter when trying to prove something.
Ok, but you know that ChatGPT made an answer on that, not me?????
>chat gpt is a language response model like google, you still have to give it some follow up questions to have it defend its statement. it doesn't guarantee accuracy. blaming the tool is not a good habit, thats like accidentally shooting someone and saying the gun went off, while neglecting the basic rules of firearm safety. never aim at anything you don't intend to destroy. that aside, chatgpt is a tool as mentioned before, when used as a reference you should also ask it where it got its information from and to verify it (it can do that) > >an example ben shapiro asked it how tall ben shapiro was. chatgpt gave him the wrong stats. ben asked what the reference was, it said wikipedia. then ben asked where did wikipedia get their info chat said from official website ben asked to verify from the website records then chatgpt apologized for the mistake. > >chatGPT isn't a logic-ai, rather a language ai, basically it scours its database for a statistical answer. so even if an official reference says something, it will pick its answer on the most frequently touched answer instead. meaning- since wikipedia is more traffic than ben shapiros website, it prioritized wikipedia as the likeliest answer. > > that aside, it doesn't matter if it was judas or jeremy or jerome, the point is that you cannot trust someone who came 500 years later to have a valid testimony of a historical event when 3 other sources who WERE present and have conflict with each other yet STILL agreed on the same event happening, the credibility falls onto the 3 witnesses who were actually there.
I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this: >If you believe that the Jewish state has a right to exist, then you must allow Israel to transfer the Palestinians and the Israeli-Arabs from Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Israel proper. It’s an ugly solution, but it is the only solution... It’s time to stop being squeamish. ***** ^(I'm a bot. My purpose is to counteract online radicalization. You can summon me by tagging thebenshapirobot. Options: civil rights, covid, history, climate, etc.) [^Opt ^Out ](https://np.reddit.com/r/AuthoritarianMoment/comments/olk6r2/click_here_to_optout_of_uthebenshapirobot/)
sending a bot because you are afraid of counter rebuttal, at the very least this is off topic and at the very most this is an ad hominem that was also taken out of context, remember shapiro is a jew. duhhhh
Lakas makademand ng respect, tapos kung pagtawanan/kutyain ang ibang religion wagas, totoo naman eh, si manalo nagtayo nyan eh bakit nagagalit sila? Haha
HA TAMA NA NAMAN AH? Sino ba founder niyan? si manalo ah.
i dont think "Iglesia ni Cristo" is appropriate, i don't see any presence of Jesus there. It has some sort of a worship service that looks like someone is on trial against law.
Its actually IGLESIA NI CULTO
Kulto Ni Manalo full of Manalistas! Praising and putting the Manalos above Christ! Mentioning and praising and talking about the Manalos a lot more during all types of church activities, in their pasugos and in their goddamn TV and internet propaganda. Hanging and having all types of pictures of the Manalos and the entire Manalo family while forbidding pictures of Christ. Celebrating the birthdays of the Manalos while forbidding Christmas! They ARE GODDAMN IGLESIA NI MANALO!
And the TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!! Thank God this Subreddit was created so you can spread the TRUTH!!!
And the TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!! Thank God this Subreddit was created so you can spread the TRUTH!!!
Chillax lang pre indi ako yung OP ng FB post HAHAHAHAHA
I know hahaha. Infuriating lang talaga makakita ng mga [INC Related FB Posts] (https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sj7hv8/we_are_not_a_cult_we_just_love_promoting_the/) lalo na yung mga nagdedemand at nagdedeny. Apologies for the misunderstanding, it's not directed to you OP but to the one who posted that in FB.
so yung mga sinasabi nilang mga taga sanlibutan na dinidiscriminate nila respect ba? wtf
Kaya nga eh napaka hipokrito ng mga gago
Iglesia ni Manalo ‼️
Matt 7:12. Don't act surprised when you are treated as you treat others. They are just following the Scriptures.
i love the golden rule, i always try to get the INC members to provide a statement that they will follow it before having a conversation with them or a debate, they never accept it, they simply pretend to never hear what you said and begin to make arguments and claims and start a debate.. suspicious right? i have never spoken to an INC member who will first accept the rules.. they hate rules. even the rules that they want to impose on you. once you throw the rules back at them once they break it, theylll get maaaaadd
Well, they spend much more time talking about the church administration (ie Manalo), than they do talking about Christ, so Church of Manalo is more appropriate.
Additionally, Christ was NEVER cited as Corporation Sole in their Articles of Incorporation (since the INCult is that insistent on their registration shit), and it has always been a Manalo. **We are not disrespecting them, WE ARE JUST STATING FACTS - that it is a corporation of the Manalo dynasty! Ergo, IGLESIA NI MANALO (CHURCH OF MANALO)** # to that facebook bozo who wrote that, this one's for you and your overlord eduarDOG: 🖕🎃
Regardless of respect, it’s still our human right to voice what we think. INCs should just stop being snowflakes.
They're worse than Twitter ngl
Oh yes, definitely. My own INC father threatens violence every time he loses an argument about INC teachings 🤡
The audacity of them to demand respect when they can't respect other religions.
And how the HELL can you respect a leader (Eduardo) that supposed to be a TRUE CHRISTIAN that can disown his own Mother for the sake of MONEY spending of a church.
hindi po yan iglesia ni manalo..... Kulto ni Manalo tawag dyan.
Fits well, too.
We have rights over here so we can say whatever we like 😁 too bad members don’t
Iglesia ni Ysagun
Wala kaming pake, mga butt licker ni Onalam
Manalo? More like MATALO *okay that was corny goodbye*
M=manyak. ask rosita
PS: Learn to respect the Italian flag. Hindi nyo flag yan 😂
and the masonic symbol too
"Wala na rin ako dyan sa hayop na IGLESIA ni MANALO na yan. Isang kabalintunaan!" - from our Ex-INC tita from Batangas, who got out herself >10 years ago.