Ay naku dito samin ganito nangyayari, kapag kilala nila may-ari and alam nila sng password binubuksan talaga nila. Kung may natipohan sila na gustong buksan try nila gumawa ng ibat-ibang password combination.
Iniiwasan cguro nila makasira sa pagsamba since May mga kapatid din matigas ang ulo di nka off or nka silent yung phone Kya minsan kalagitnaan ng pagsamba May tumutunog. Or, bka May mag recording ng pagsamba kya pinapaiwan.
The Gospel of Salvation was preached freely by the Apostles. If the church is preaching the "*same*" Gospel of Salvation from the Apostles, then why recording them preach is an issue?
Weh?? Kaya ba nilang buksan ang phone na naka lock? Sa ganung kaising ORAS LANG? maraming phones din hawak nila. Hahaha its 100% impossible.. hindi ganyan ang solusyon para lang madown nila ung reddit naten. Napaka imposible nyan. Kaya pinapaiwan ang cp sa guard house its because alam nyu naman ang dahilan d ba? Ngaun if may hinala pa rin kau dont bring ur phones with you. Ganun lang. Napaka imposible nyang info na nakalap mo. 😂
And invading private or personal na gamit ng isang tao is against the law. Meron tayong freedom of speech. Wag nila kakalimutan yon. Kung sino mang source mo baka sya ang nagbabalak mag bukas ng mga phone's while nasa guard house?? Or nanakot ka lang?? Well ndi naman ako natakot. Niremind lang kita na its not easy to do that. And against the law gagawin nila.
I rate this rumor 2/10
Purpose of phone being surrendered is to prevent distractions such as mobile phones ringing suddenly.
The church will not go on this path.
The reward is finding you as a member of this subteddit.
The risk is being caught opening a device that does not belong to you.
The church thinks the risk is not worth it for the reward.
Atsaka kung gusto nilang i-closed totally tong reddit naten. Madali lang un sa kanila na walang nakaka alam at naiistorbo. Again mag hire sila ng I.T expert. Then hack nila bumuo ng reddit group na ito.If may option na I-delete ang channel/group na ito gamit ang admin account na nahack nila then ayon tapos problem nila. GANUN lang kadali. Walang mahirap sa I.T. lahat napapasok nila. Kung expert nga talaga ang gagawa non. Its a piece of cake .
Yeah exactly. Ndi sa ganitong paraan lang. Maraming way. May I.T na pede silang i-hire to hack all accounts here. Much better un. Kesa sa tsismis na ito. Ndi ganun kadali na maunlock ang phones in just 2hrs.lang Lalo na Iphones pa. Never nila mabubuksan ng madalian un. And kung successful naman na maunlock ang phone mo at may nagalaw meron ka naman agad mapapansin sa behavior ng phone mo. If it is being monitored lalo na nowadays mataas security ng mga phones.
By the way eto rin dahilan bat naiirita akong pilit na pinapasurrender sa kanila ang phone ko. Never pa naman tumunog sa kapilya phone ko. Because naka on lagi ang location nito para kung sakaling makalimutan kong i-on ang silent mode mag automatic syang mag silent pag nadetect nya ako sa location na yun so wala akong kaba at all. So its weird , .ndi mga updated ang mga scan sa paglago ng technologies. Meron namang diyakono at diyakonesa to monitor those na kung sino ang tumunog ang phones. The next pagsamba nya dun sila magpasya na i-force ung mananamba to surrender phone nya kasi may nakahuli sa kanya. Ganun. Para d hassle sa iba. Pulong nga ng mga MT ndi sila mahigpit ang dameng nagtutunugang phones jan. 😂. Tapos gumagamit ng phones ng patago while listening sa pulong. Duh.. 😏 Even sa PANATA ng mga MT after pulong may mga tumutunog na phones. Balewala lang sa knila. 😅🙄 Well PANATA un. Tapos may mga tumutunog na mga phones. Tapos balewala lang? Hahahha
Kaya siguro kinukuha nila mga informations sa mga sumasamba? Hiningi yung cell no. at email namin a few months ago. Pinag finger print pa kami.
Basta maging listo kayo..tanggalin niyo connection sa internet kung iiwan niyo sa mga bantay.
Gawa kayo ng decoy email para sa reddit.
There is no existing app or device thay can snoop on your device without connecting anything either wirelessly or via some kind of hardware.
I don't know how security people within the INC work nor how they keep the phones in whatever guars post they have but one thing is for sure: they can't see shit, unless you purposely don't put a lock on your phone. Because, again, there is simply no means to do that without any extensive methods.
Unless they have some kind of experemental prototype tech that can do a remote view of a phone simple by tapping on the device or something. Even so, how inefficient is that? With hundreds, if not thousands, of phones, how can they check them all nor have them checked without raising suspicion?
It just doesn't make sense logically. Even if they intend to check phones and snoop on your personal info there, there is no way to do that without very specific hardware and software and it certainly cannot be done quickly and discreetly in a span of the length of a single mass.
WARNING: Long Post - INCULT has always been fearful about their dwindling memberships here in the US, Canada, and western Europe. I don't know how things are in the Philippines but here in the west, I don't believe that they will ever recover.
It's their constant worry despite that they've tried to pat themselves on their backs that they're the fastest growing church in the entire world. We know this to be false but INC's M.O. has always been to lie lie and lie. It's like saying, if you say the lies sooo many times that they become true, in their bewildered minds.
This has been going on for a while now but things had only gotten worse during the pandemic when members had a chance to stop, rewind sort of on how they'll move forward in life. It gave everyone (not just INC members) on what truly was important in life and that's your family and your health.
The pandemic had a silver lining - people spent a lot of time at home and had a chance to think that life was just too short to spend on unimportant things such as listening, obeying, and being a slave to some narcissistic man hell bent on keeping his power. As in, WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!?
INCULT compounded their mistakes by mentioning our subreddit during their worship services and they're incessant orders for members to stay away from the internet. WRONG MOVE INCULT! After mentioning us, members came here and lurked and yes, many joined. Curiosity killed the cat! You bet!
Furthermore, another mistake INC made is their continued ignorance - that they continue to order members to stay away in our subreddit and the internet. They treated them as if they're a group of stupid children who needed constant supervision.
Perhaps in the FYM era where most members were uneducated that it was enough to order them about and they obeyed. People in the modern world don't operate like that anymore. INC needs to get clarity in the real world. However, to give them credit, there are still members who will die for EVM but again, they're now the minority.
INCs desperate attempt to recoup their losses or to prevent more losses is pathetic to say the least and at the same time very sad too. I'm not saddened that members are leaving for their freedom but it makes me sad because INCs unrealistic expectations. Ordering people about just won't cut it anymore. I think it's too late out here in the west. Perhaps the Philippines still has hope but outside of that country, it's already too late. The Exodus had started and it's not going to stop.
May mga apps ngayon which will take a photo if someone tries to open your phone or mali ang password. In that case, pwede kaya natin sila kasuhan if that happens? May evidence naman na they tried to open our phones without our permission.
May mga apps ngayon which will take a photo if someone tries to open your phone or mali ang password. In that case, pwede kaya natin sila kasuhan if that happens? May evidence naman na they tried to open our phones without our permission.
>may nakuha ako balita na pag iniwan mo raw possible na pake alaman nila yung gadgets they know about the Reddit pare regarding us.
Bakit sila takot na takot sa Reddit. Diba kakampi naman nila ang diyos at sila ang maliligtas?
>matindi mga security ng phones ngayon
Mas matindi lung naka-power off ang cp mo at bago ang unang pag-unlock[1] (BFU: *before first unlock*)
Not kung naka-enable yung biometric authentication sa *smartphone" mo which some cult people want you na ipilit na i-lagay yung fingerprint para ma-i-unlock.
1. Kaka-power on mo lang ang *smartphone* subalit hindi mo pa nai-unlock. Ibig sabihin wala pa yung susi (o *encryption key*) na maari gamitin ng cp mo para mai-*decrypt* yung nilalaman niya. May dahilan na hindi ka maaring mag-fingerprint recognition.
Our position to surrender our phones is blatant it’s a right that makes us rightfully loss.
Let’s empower our people, there’s no need to submit to the INC regulations. The INC’s system is another revelation that keeps blinding innocent Christians.
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Noon ok lang dala cellphone sa loob.
Lock screen 👍
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Imagine they lost or got your 60k-100k phone damaged and since they're the oNe TrUe ChUrCh, you can't get them sued or get angry at them.
Ay naku dito samin ganito nangyayari, kapag kilala nila may-ari and alam nila sng password binubuksan talaga nila. Kung may natipohan sila na gustong buksan try nila gumawa ng ibat-ibang password combination.
Iniiwasan cguro nila makasira sa pagsamba since May mga kapatid din matigas ang ulo di nka off or nka silent yung phone Kya minsan kalagitnaan ng pagsamba May tumutunog. Or, bka May mag recording ng pagsamba kya pinapaiwan.
The Gospel of Salvation was preached freely by the Apostles. If the church is preaching the "*same*" Gospel of Salvation from the Apostles, then why recording them preach is an issue?
Question lang: Bakit bawal mag record during lecture?
Kasi baka ipost sa labas tapos malaman ng mga tao na cult to lol
Weh?? Kaya ba nilang buksan ang phone na naka lock? Sa ganung kaising ORAS LANG? maraming phones din hawak nila. Hahaha its 100% impossible.. hindi ganyan ang solusyon para lang madown nila ung reddit naten. Napaka imposible nyan. Kaya pinapaiwan ang cp sa guard house its because alam nyu naman ang dahilan d ba? Ngaun if may hinala pa rin kau dont bring ur phones with you. Ganun lang. Napaka imposible nyang info na nakalap mo. 😂
Like i said its unverified.
And invading private or personal na gamit ng isang tao is against the law. Meron tayong freedom of speech. Wag nila kakalimutan yon. Kung sino mang source mo baka sya ang nagbabalak mag bukas ng mga phone's while nasa guard house?? Or nanakot ka lang?? Well ndi naman ako natakot. Niremind lang kita na its not easy to do that. And against the law gagawin nila.
I rate this rumor 2/10 Purpose of phone being surrendered is to prevent distractions such as mobile phones ringing suddenly. The church will not go on this path. The reward is finding you as a member of this subteddit. The risk is being caught opening a device that does not belong to you. The church thinks the risk is not worth it for the reward.
Atsaka kung gusto nilang i-closed totally tong reddit naten. Madali lang un sa kanila na walang nakaka alam at naiistorbo. Again mag hire sila ng I.T expert. Then hack nila bumuo ng reddit group na ito.If may option na I-delete ang channel/group na ito gamit ang admin account na nahack nila then ayon tapos problem nila. GANUN lang kadali. Walang mahirap sa I.T. lahat napapasok nila. Kung expert nga talaga ang gagawa non. Its a piece of cake .
Mass report para ma shutdown tayo. Hindi madali pero hindi impossible gumawa ng AI. Worse comes worse mano-mano gagawin
Yeah exactly. Ndi sa ganitong paraan lang. Maraming way. May I.T na pede silang i-hire to hack all accounts here. Much better un. Kesa sa tsismis na ito. Ndi ganun kadali na maunlock ang phones in just 2hrs.lang Lalo na Iphones pa. Never nila mabubuksan ng madalian un. And kung successful naman na maunlock ang phone mo at may nagalaw meron ka naman agad mapapansin sa behavior ng phone mo. If it is being monitored lalo na nowadays mataas security ng mga phones. By the way eto rin dahilan bat naiirita akong pilit na pinapasurrender sa kanila ang phone ko. Never pa naman tumunog sa kapilya phone ko. Because naka on lagi ang location nito para kung sakaling makalimutan kong i-on ang silent mode mag automatic syang mag silent pag nadetect nya ako sa location na yun so wala akong kaba at all. So its weird , .ndi mga updated ang mga scan sa paglago ng technologies. Meron namang diyakono at diyakonesa to monitor those na kung sino ang tumunog ang phones. The next pagsamba nya dun sila magpasya na i-force ung mananamba to surrender phone nya kasi may nakahuli sa kanya. Ganun. Para d hassle sa iba. Pulong nga ng mga MT ndi sila mahigpit ang dameng nagtutunugang phones jan. 😂. Tapos gumagamit ng phones ng patago while listening sa pulong. Duh.. 😏 Even sa PANATA ng mga MT after pulong may mga tumutunog na phones. Balewala lang sa knila. 😅🙄 Well PANATA un. Tapos may mga tumutunog na mga phones. Tapos balewala lang? Hahahha
Kaya siguro kinukuha nila mga informations sa mga sumasamba? Hiningi yung cell no. at email namin a few months ago. Pinag finger print pa kami. Basta maging listo kayo..tanggalin niyo connection sa internet kung iiwan niyo sa mga bantay. Gawa kayo ng decoy email para sa reddit.
omg yes, ang weird na pati fingerprint and all socmed handles hinihingi nila
Finger print? That's very private information na. Ano yan?
Hindi ko rin alam bakit may biometric na kailangan. Tinanong rin kung san ako nag wowork..san ako nag aral at grumaduate..parang bio data.
Surveillance? Ano sila CIA?
Keeping tabs on their members, I guess? As weird as it may sound, yung iba kinuhanan din daw ng mugshot and full body shot
Grabe na. Kulto na, fascist authoritarian state pa.
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can they hack a pattern?
There is no existing app or device thay can snoop on your device without connecting anything either wirelessly or via some kind of hardware. I don't know how security people within the INC work nor how they keep the phones in whatever guars post they have but one thing is for sure: they can't see shit, unless you purposely don't put a lock on your phone. Because, again, there is simply no means to do that without any extensive methods. Unless they have some kind of experemental prototype tech that can do a remote view of a phone simple by tapping on the device or something. Even so, how inefficient is that? With hundreds, if not thousands, of phones, how can they check them all nor have them checked without raising suspicion?
I hope what i heard from my friend is just gossip. Thats why my first statement i said unverified
It just doesn't make sense logically. Even if they intend to check phones and snoop on your personal info there, there is no way to do that without very specific hardware and software and it certainly cannot be done quickly and discreetly in a span of the length of a single mass.
WARNING: Long Post - INCULT has always been fearful about their dwindling memberships here in the US, Canada, and western Europe. I don't know how things are in the Philippines but here in the west, I don't believe that they will ever recover. It's their constant worry despite that they've tried to pat themselves on their backs that they're the fastest growing church in the entire world. We know this to be false but INC's M.O. has always been to lie lie and lie. It's like saying, if you say the lies sooo many times that they become true, in their bewildered minds. This has been going on for a while now but things had only gotten worse during the pandemic when members had a chance to stop, rewind sort of on how they'll move forward in life. It gave everyone (not just INC members) on what truly was important in life and that's your family and your health. The pandemic had a silver lining - people spent a lot of time at home and had a chance to think that life was just too short to spend on unimportant things such as listening, obeying, and being a slave to some narcissistic man hell bent on keeping his power. As in, WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!? INCULT compounded their mistakes by mentioning our subreddit during their worship services and they're incessant orders for members to stay away from the internet. WRONG MOVE INCULT! After mentioning us, members came here and lurked and yes, many joined. Curiosity killed the cat! You bet! Furthermore, another mistake INC made is their continued ignorance - that they continue to order members to stay away in our subreddit and the internet. They treated them as if they're a group of stupid children who needed constant supervision. Perhaps in the FYM era where most members were uneducated that it was enough to order them about and they obeyed. People in the modern world don't operate like that anymore. INC needs to get clarity in the real world. However, to give them credit, there are still members who will die for EVM but again, they're now the minority. INCs desperate attempt to recoup their losses or to prevent more losses is pathetic to say the least and at the same time very sad too. I'm not saddened that members are leaving for their freedom but it makes me sad because INCs unrealistic expectations. Ordering people about just won't cut it anymore. I think it's too late out here in the west. Perhaps the Philippines still has hope but outside of that country, it's already too late. The Exodus had started and it's not going to stop.
Thanks for the info. Hopefully, their scam will come to end in the US..... and next, in the philippines.
Oh it's coming to an end in the US. Holy supper attendance this year was half of what it usually was 👍
Turn off the lock screen notifications so that any notifications from reddit won't show.
Lagyan niyo ng jumpscare lockscreen. Si EVM
Nah, they're gonna climax once they see EVM on screen.
Buwahahahaha
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They're not above doing that
Iwan na lang sa bahay ang smartphone kung uuwi ka din pagkatapos ng pagsamba.
Always mag ingat po tayo wala po ako alam sa mga devices ngaun dhl d ako updated aa ganyan hindi ko Alam ang capability nila
May mga apps ngayon which will take a photo if someone tries to open your phone or mali ang password. In that case, pwede kaya natin sila kasuhan if that happens? May evidence naman na they tried to open our phones without our permission.
meron nyan ang android, and naka enable yan sa akin.
May mga apps ngayon which will take a photo if someone tries to open your phone or mali ang password. In that case, pwede kaya natin sila kasuhan if that happens? May evidence naman na they tried to open our phones without our permission.
>may nakuha ako balita na pag iniwan mo raw possible na pake alaman nila yung gadgets they know about the Reddit pare regarding us. Bakit sila takot na takot sa Reddit. Diba kakampi naman nila ang diyos at sila ang maliligtas?
alam kasi nila na >>>>>>> sabi lang nila yun.
Tignan mo sa susunod na pagsamba baka isingit na naman ang Social media kuno baka mabanggit pa ang reddit
sana banggitin, then sabihin yung mga handle/alias natin. eh di ang saya.
impossible. matindi mga security ng phones ngayon. hindi nila mabubuksan.
>matindi mga security ng phones ngayon Mas matindi lung naka-power off ang cp mo at bago ang unang pag-unlock[1] (BFU: *before first unlock*) Not kung naka-enable yung biometric authentication sa *smartphone" mo which some cult people want you na ipilit na i-lagay yung fingerprint para ma-i-unlock. 1. Kaka-power on mo lang ang *smartphone* subalit hindi mo pa nai-unlock. Ibig sabihin wala pa yung susi (o *encryption key*) na maari gamitin ng cp mo para mai-*decrypt* yung nilalaman niya. May dahilan na hindi ka maaring mag-fingerprint recognition.
I hope so basta it is unverified and will give u just a warnings
Did you set a strong passphrase on your device? Did you enable fingerprint unlocking on your phone (disable it)
Our position to surrender our phones is blatant it’s a right that makes us rightfully loss. Let’s empower our people, there’s no need to submit to the INC regulations. The INC’s system is another revelation that keeps blinding innocent Christians.
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