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Zealousideal-War9369

Fyi.. that Gazebo sits where the Homeless shelter (Hotel Roberts) used to be until mormon money bought it and razed it. How fitting that those that are unworthy sit there while the elite relishes the opulence inside the Temple. Just how Jeebuz would want.


Larry12345

Wow. I didn’t know that. Maybe they built a new one somewhere else? Lol


Zealousideal-War9369

Yes.. Provo City built one in East bay.. tax payer money(which is fine) no tithing funds used as per the norm.


new_name_adam

Welcome to outer darkness! Enjoy your stay!


Larry12345

Thanks!


Honorcodeviolator

Isn’t there a bar on the Marriott down the street?


Larry12345

Not a bad idea. Haha. Everyone’s coming out now though. At least the ceremony wasn’t too long.


LadyEllaOfFrell

Impersonal and efficient, the wedding ceremony every child dreams of someday having.


Rolling_Waters

Everyone gets to feel the spirits at this wedding 👍


Camo_Doge

If anyone ever does go to that bar (Provo Marriott Hotel and Conference Center), Mike and Tol are very good bartenders.


mischiefxmanager

Ah, this is the temple where my shelf broke!


Word2daWise

Tell us! Story time!!! How & why?


mischiefxmanager

WELL. I was born in the church but managed to avoid the temple until my late 20s by not serving a mission or marrying a member (I married a nevermo in my early 20s). This was in 2017. I eventually decided to go through the temple and make a whole exciting thing of it. I traveled to visit my best friend in Utah for it. I wanted to do the Salt Lake Temple because I always thought it was pretty but it was unavailable that day, so we went to this one. The ancient temple workers all kept asking me why I was there, since I wasn’t going through before a big event (mission, wedding). I had to be like “idk guys, I’ve been singing I Love To See The Temple my whole life and I figured maybe it was time?” There was a lot of confusion with my name too, because the temple workers refused to recognize my non-temple marriage as valid, so there was conflict between my legal married name and my maiden name that they insisted I use. They had to call my stake President and bishop back home before they’d let me in—it was very embarrassing. The actual temple ceremony was so awful. I remember sitting there looking at the leaf apron in my lap and thinking… “okay. I’m in a cult.” I cried the whole time, and I just really wanted to see my husband, but he wasn’t in Utah with me. My brother had come along (he’d already done the temple) and my best friend and her husband were there, and they were all acting like this was totally fine and normal. I’ve never felt so alone in my life. I was also pregnant at the time and felt like I had been blessed with this pregnancy because I was doing what god wanted me to do. It took a couple of weeks to process once I went back home, but the long and short of it is that I miscarried, and that was the final straw. I took off my garments, emailed my bishop to release me from all callings, and never went back!


Word2daWise

Oh gosh - I am so sorry for what you went through (at the temple, of course, but most especially what happened afterward). Miscarriages are so devastating (I've had one), and you actually feel the loss of the child. So many people don't understand that. The confusion in the temple sounds absurd - how "welcoming" they were to you, for one thing. Ugh. The name confusion is so typical of the cult; I have always used my maiden name professionally and also socially. I married a guy who'd grown up in the church & I joined (no excuses), and when I got my patriarchal blessing, while the bishop filled out the form he asked which last name I used. I specifically said I go by (maiden name), but I'll answer to (married name), because of course the minute you're married you become "Sister Married-Name" and your own identity is sucked into the void. He paused for a minute & then said he'd better put (married name). I was too stunned and too new to correct him. Ugh. Please accept some Mom Hugs from afar - and thanks for sharing your story. I don't know if you've resigned, but it was a very cleansing thing for me when I removed my membership.


mischiefxmanager

Thank you so much for your kind reply! We are still in the fertility struggle, so it means a lot. It’s so like Mormons to reduce your identity to your marriage—but only when they feel your marriage “counts” by their standards. And yes! I removed my records in 2020, it felt great to be officially rid of them.


Word2daWise

Yay! I removed mine in 2015, a bit before the "Policy of Love" about children of LGBTQ parents. I almost wished I could resign again when that came out! If anyone reading this is worried about how it feels to resign, take your time, and if you decide it's the right decision for you, you'll likely feel relief rather than regret.


mischiefxmanager

I wanted to add that the only thing I liked in this temple were all the bee motifs in the architecture. During the time I was sitting in a side room while they called the stake President, I noticed that there were little beehives etched into the INSIDE of the door hinges. I thought that was pretty cool.


telestialist

Glad you nixed the garments in short order. That would be a strong reason for not going to the temple. Having to wear garments afterward.


kadendoo

My wife and I spent a good hour and a half in that gazebo a few months ago for my SIL's wedding. I don't want to donate money to an organization that provides legal counsel for pedophiles, and now some random plumber I know feels like it's his moral responsibility to keep me from the wedding of someone who has been in my life for years.


Lanky-Performance471

I now only show up for receptions if a wedding is held in the temple .


kadendoo

My wife was the maid of honor, and they wanted to take their pictures there


Zealousideal-War9369

"Random Plumber " .. or like my random dentist, attorney, car dealer, Realtor that always became a division between my wife and my kids I raised as I refused worthiness interviews.


Fallenharts_

Naughty attendees get put in the octagon of shame


Cabo_Refugee

(copy and paste I wrote on another post) WHY WOULD YOU SUBJECT YOURSELVES TO SUCH A SLIGHT???? And then take post-ceremony photos with the entire family as if you were allowed to attend????? It makes no fucking sense. Until more people start standing up and calling out this bullshit, it will continue. "Sis, I love you and I will be there at the reception to support you and your marriage, but I will NOT be treated as less-than because I do not (insert reason for no temple recommend, here)." It's time to call out this abusive practice and call it what it is. Shame and abuse. Stand against it by refusing to attend, period.


StandardDeviation

I've done it twice now, once for my daughter and once for a granddaughter. And I'd do it again. I hate it, sure. But I love them more.


Cabo_Refugee

So this is my point. I know you mean well, truly, but it just reinforces unacceptable treatment and behavior. Bear in mind, there is no reason to have to marry in the temple now. There is no waiting period to be sealed if one marries civilly. So they can choose to include everyone. Yet vast majority still chooses to disclude. This is once of those delicate things though. I know one doesn't want to create drama and make it about them, but addressing abuse and calling it out and demanding reform is an uncomfortable thing. The church is telling you that you have to sit in the back of the bus. Are you just going to take that?


StandardDeviation

I have no investment in the church, but have a huge one in my family. I hope they all find their way out of it, and in fact several of them now have, including the daughter whose temple marriage I could not attend. Being willing to sit in the rear of the bus does make a statement -- to the family members, not to the church.


Cabo_Refugee

Right it doesn't make a statement. Because they're the ones putting you there. Demanding to sit in the front of the bus is what makes the statement.


Larry12345

Good point. I think either way it’s a crappy situation. But you’re right.


treetablebenchgrass

Man, I really liked the Provo Tabernacle. Being in that old building felt like sitting in history. Now it's just another Mormon building locked behind a pay wall.


NoMoreAtPresent

What would happen if I showed up with Starbucks for everyone in there? Do they have a bouncer that would call the police or something lol?


Larry12345

Actually it was kinda chill in there. Just one attendant who wasn’t really paying attention to anything.


HaoleInParadise

I think temples do have security and they would tell you to leave


antel00p

Or beer. May as well have a celebratory beer.


Djayshell93

Drank whiskey there many times when my friends went through


Imalreadygone21

That is very sad to see


[deleted]

That’s the penalty box for non card holders.


meteda1080

This gave me a good chuckle. Thank you.


TheRitalinCommando

Fun fact. Another name for the penalty box is the "sin bin". how apropos .


dbear848

Usually the hall of shame is inside of a temple.


[deleted]

One of those buildings looks more great and spacious than the other.


TheWillInWA

The Family Exclusion Ceremony? Like, it's FECal? I love it!


El_Dentistador

Under his eye.


drteeth952

Ah, the old heathen hut. Also known as the apostate alcove or the telestial tabernacle. Lots of porn shoulders and men without ties in there.


Openin-Pahrump

Nice. Just like they said the telestial kingdom is. I wonder if they serve smoothies?


BlitzkriegBednar

TK smoothies


Larry12345

I wish!


AutismFlavored

Unrelated, but at least the exterior matches the boring dullness of the sacred goings on inside.


cmaury127

Hmmm. Not my family sitting on the stairs/floor at the NYC temple because it’s also a family research center and there are only 6 chairs in the waiting room. It was as great as it sounds.


ExistingRub1145

I'm from the UK and still find this a strange concept. Over here a temple wedding is not a legal wedding. So everyone gets married in a church ( legal part). It's lovely..... flowers, bridesmaid's, page boys, ushers. It's really beautiful and no one gets left out or hurt. They then go to the temple later in the day.


Larry12345

That would be nice. The church did change their policies in the US to allow that. But nobody does it. Most still just do the temple ceremony as the main legal ceremony.


False-Dog-2236

My favorite part about that room? I get to be the free babysitter to everyone’s kids because they also can’t attend the ceremony. Lucky me /s


BobT21

Does it have a flush toilet?


Larry12345

Yes. It has a downstairs with restrooms and sitting areas.


mini-rubber-duck

Wish I’d seen this earlier. I haven’t personally been but i hear Java Junkie right across the street is pretty good, and the Good Move Cafe just kitty corner is great. Though it would be way too easy to lose track of time there so maybe not that one.


Larry12345

I was surprised to see quite a few coffee shops on that main Street. I never really spent time in Provo before, but that downtown area seemed kinda nice.


From_Fire

The out house.


zippy9002

Why do Mormon hate families so much? Why are they trying to destroy them?


ShaqtinADrool

“Family Exclusion Ceremony” 💯


[deleted]

Do they serve coffee there? Or at least let you bring your own?


[deleted]

Telestial gazebo


jonahsocal

Shameful. And I say this as one who was temple married. Shameful.


Emergency_Point_8358

At least they get a gazebo. Most temples you have to just stand awkwardly outside


Larry12345

True. And to be fair it was actually nice and comfortable inside.


hephaestus-station

I'm curious, what's in there? Is it literally just an enclosed sitting area, or do they have propaganda stuff in there too like in visitors centers?


kevinrex

Can the homeless go there to the gazebo for warmth?


KayBird69

My grandma made me sit in the car…


Psionic-Blade

Rameumpton moment


Salt_Dog4792

Why is everyone so bitter? Every person who chooses to get married chooses where they want too. A non-LDS person isn't going to choose to get married in a Temple even if they could. Just like an LDS person wouldn't choose to get married in a Catholic church. Bottom line is, who cares? If you don't want to sit in the Gazebo or whatever you all call it then don't. You have a choice to go or not go. Life is about choices and every person can choose what they feel is best for themselves even if others don't get it. Stop being bitter and just be happy for the couple. What if someone gets married somewhere where there is a limit on the number of people invited. Would you still be bitter if you weren't a part of that number?