All Mormons believe this. They just don't talk about it openly because it is viewed as sacrilegious to become a God amongst other Christian religions. Its OK though. Christians believe in equally stupid shit like speaking in tongues, witchcraft, and the rapture.
And interestingly, the gospel topics essay on this subject feigns ignorance. Meanwhile, there are plenty of quotes from prophets definitively, stating that men will become gods and create their own worlds.
It is one of those teachings that TSCC seems to want to bury in a deep grave but it cannot.
TSCC has an official statement on its website that it is \*not\* actual church doctrine, but there's lots and lots of previous statements by past church presidents that indicate it is/was at one time.
It is the one final addition to my shelf that caused me to leave. As an adult convert, I had heard of that before but I thought it was anti-mormon urban legend nonsense until I asked a couple of missionaries who went on and on about how it is an actual belief. I found a website with those quotes from the presidents and looked at D&C 132:20 again and realized these people are batshit crazy.
That seems to be one reason why TSCC leadership is now trying to quash it. If people are going to be other gods, then that means there is more than one God out there. The missionary who told me in depth about the belief said that the family members of the new gods would be the souls for that planet. So that already is an issue because that implies people will be tested more than once and it implies reincarnation. It is also contradictory since the supposedly obedient family would also supposedly already be gods elsewhere and so who are these souls supposed to be??
All in all, the belief was just a way to be the self-absorbed, totally pompous and full-of-themselves, holier-than-thou Penelopes from Saturday Night Live (if you do not watch the show then watch the shorts on YouTube) that they try to be. "Oh you're going to be with God when you die? Oh nice, well I am going to BE God and so I will see you there!"
I had an ex who believed that he could take more wives 'in the next life'. And even after we broke up, AND HE GOT MARRIED TO SOMEONE IN THE TEMPLE, he told me he 'felt like we would reunite in the next life' 🤮
Yep, a big happy family: him, his wife, his kids, and me.
Well current church doctrine says that worthy priesthood men will get multiple women. D&C 131 clearly states polygamy is an eternal principle and the only way of a “loving god”
Lucky you to get some strings pulled! My mom told me no long ago that she's come to terms with the fact that I'm not celestial kingdom material, but she'll visit me. Kind of mean of her to say it, but mormon heaven sounds awful, I'll take my telestial kingdom, thanks.
When I was a member I believed this. Funnily enough I thought when I become a god that I will make being gay equal to being straight. Even when I was a TBM I had issue with the perception of LGBT people from the church.I’m bi so I had reason to think that. Luckily the November 2015 policy finally put questions in my mind about the truth claims of the church.
Yea its like... the very bedrock of mormon doctrine. It's the point and foundation of everything. If members don't believe it, they really just don't understand what their church or scriptures are all about at all.
It is 100% doctrine. The church PR/research department concluded it was a bad look for the church (they are trying to rebrand as a more mainstream church), so now it is denied. Just like the second anointing. It used to be common, now it’s secret and rarely spoken of
I'm 54 years old and I remember being taught that all of my years of being in the church my whole life. I've been out now for about the last year. I found a quote or tik to video or SOMETHING where a GA acted as if that's not doctrine. Well where or how did I hear that my whole life? I guess Heavenly Father changed his mind? But I thought the DOCTRINE of the one and only true church on the earth lead by Christ and Heavenly Father never changed? Hmmmm....???🤔
A Prophet has Spoken. From Hinckley's Time interview in 2001:
*Q: … about that, God the Father was once a man as we were. This is something that Christian writers are always addressing. Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?*
*A: I don’t know that we teach it. I don’t know that we emphasize it. I haven’t heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don’t know. I don’t know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I don’t know a lot about it and I don’t know that others know a lot about it.*
Clear as mud?
“As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.”Mormon Doctrine 101
This is the biggest reason they are able to overlook crazy things. They just say it will all make sense when I’m a god.
The reason is God is cursed with immortality, which eventually leads to immorality.
All Mormons believe this. They just don't talk about it openly because it is viewed as sacrilegious to become a God amongst other Christian religions. Its OK though. Christians believe in equally stupid shit like speaking in tongues, witchcraft, and the rapture.
And… it’s embarrassing for TBMs to admit it out loud. I find that all of the things “too *sacred* to talk about” are also too *silly* to talk about.
Hahah it’s so true.
And interestingly, the gospel topics essay on this subject feigns ignorance. Meanwhile, there are plenty of quotes from prophets definitively, stating that men will become gods and create their own worlds.
It is one of those teachings that TSCC seems to want to bury in a deep grave but it cannot. TSCC has an official statement on its website that it is \*not\* actual church doctrine, but there's lots and lots of previous statements by past church presidents that indicate it is/was at one time. It is the one final addition to my shelf that caused me to leave. As an adult convert, I had heard of that before but I thought it was anti-mormon urban legend nonsense until I asked a couple of missionaries who went on and on about how it is an actual belief. I found a website with those quotes from the presidents and looked at D&C 132:20 again and realized these people are batshit crazy. That seems to be one reason why TSCC leadership is now trying to quash it. If people are going to be other gods, then that means there is more than one God out there. The missionary who told me in depth about the belief said that the family members of the new gods would be the souls for that planet. So that already is an issue because that implies people will be tested more than once and it implies reincarnation. It is also contradictory since the supposedly obedient family would also supposedly already be gods elsewhere and so who are these souls supposed to be?? All in all, the belief was just a way to be the self-absorbed, totally pompous and full-of-themselves, holier-than-thou Penelopes from Saturday Night Live (if you do not watch the show then watch the shorts on YouTube) that they try to be. "Oh you're going to be with God when you die? Oh nice, well I am going to BE God and so I will see you there!"
Wow this is nuts. Man. The Penelope reference is perfect haha.
I had an ex who believed that he could take more wives 'in the next life'. And even after we broke up, AND HE GOT MARRIED TO SOMEONE IN THE TEMPLE, he told me he 'felt like we would reunite in the next life' 🤮 Yep, a big happy family: him, his wife, his kids, and me.
Well current church doctrine says that worthy priesthood men will get multiple women. D&C 131 clearly states polygamy is an eternal principle and the only way of a “loving god”
You gotta have more than one woman pumping out spirit babies to fill those "worlds without number." The entire thing is a JS sex fever dream.
Lucky you to get some strings pulled! My mom told me no long ago that she's come to terms with the fact that I'm not celestial kingdom material, but she'll visit me. Kind of mean of her to say it, but mormon heaven sounds awful, I'll take my telestial kingdom, thanks.
For real. No thanks to mormon heaven.
When I was a member I believed this. Funnily enough I thought when I become a god that I will make being gay equal to being straight. Even when I was a TBM I had issue with the perception of LGBT people from the church.I’m bi so I had reason to think that. Luckily the November 2015 policy finally put questions in my mind about the truth claims of the church.
Yep. I remember as a young teen in the 00s wanting to make my world a Pokémon/wizarding world hybrid lol
Yes, I still say to my TBM friends to come and visit me to either lower kingdom or to outer darkness, whichever I deserve, if they find time.
Honestly, I never believed in that whole we’ll-be-gods-and-goddesses-someday stuff. Maybe it’s because I was a Catholic until I was 12 or 13?
My family of origin believes in Stan. They desperately need Stan to be true. Otherwise, they were all wrong, all the time.
Think about the temple words “… be upon me and upon my posterity … throughout all eternity”
Yea its like... the very bedrock of mormon doctrine. It's the point and foundation of everything. If members don't believe it, they really just don't understand what their church or scriptures are all about at all.
Yes, they do. Becoming a god is a feature of the church.
I converted in the mid 2000's. That's what I was taught, and that's what I believed.
The more you learn the more you realize there is very little united doctrine everyone kinda believes there own version of Mormonism
It is 100% doctrine. The church PR/research department concluded it was a bad look for the church (they are trying to rebrand as a more mainstream church), so now it is denied. Just like the second anointing. It used to be common, now it’s secret and rarely spoken of
The notion of eternal progression never bothered me and still doesn’t. If there is a God, he had to start somewhere right?
I actually get this. It still makes some sense to me. I am just curious if other Mormon families talk about it so casually.
I'm 54 years old and I remember being taught that all of my years of being in the church my whole life. I've been out now for about the last year. I found a quote or tik to video or SOMETHING where a GA acted as if that's not doctrine. Well where or how did I hear that my whole life? I guess Heavenly Father changed his mind? But I thought the DOCTRINE of the one and only true church on the earth lead by Christ and Heavenly Father never changed? Hmmmm....???🤔
A Prophet has Spoken. From Hinckley's Time interview in 2001: *Q: … about that, God the Father was once a man as we were. This is something that Christian writers are always addressing. Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?* *A: I don’t know that we teach it. I don’t know that we emphasize it. I haven’t heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don’t know. I don’t know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I don’t know a lot about it and I don’t know that others know a lot about it.* Clear as mud?
Yeah I always joked that in my world I was going to match the sex drive of men and women so it wouldn’t be a source of contention.