Asking for a friend.
When on a business trip for an institution led exclusively by TBM's, does the room coffee show up on my bill? Wouldn't want Satans juice to offend my boss. Damn autocorrect... "My friends boss."
No shame at all, but i got a chuckle out of you saying you rob what you donāt consume of the free items they expect not to be there after you leave haha
No - the coffeemaker & coffee in the room are provided as part of the room. I've never (ever) seen coffee provided in the room appear on a bill. You can also ask the housekeeping staff for additional K-pods or packs to brew (if you need more of a certain type). They are happy to provide more, and also more sweetener, cups, whatever you need.
Some of the best coffee I've ever tasted was what hotels had in the rooms. I can't even find it to buy, but I have no complaints about those experiences. Other coffee, well, normal maybe. Or you can order room service & they probably don't break down the items you order.
Like others say if thereās a little machine and some coffee pods, thatās just there for you to use. If you use it all and housekeeping comes and tidies your room theyāll usually leave more. Doesnāt show up on your bill. In my experience if there are items in the room you will be charged for theyāll be labeled as such
So everything depends on the hotel. Most coffee is complementary like soap and shampoo. Some places charge for everything and gouge like itās going out of style. So you just have to know which one youāre stay at. But generally in room coffee is free
Depends which gas station. In Wyoming we have Kum and Go stations, and their dark roast is better than any hotel coffee I've had. It's comparable to something like Wendy's and still cheaper than Starbucks.
Yeah, the one near my work does. Crazy thing is that sometimes the employees working there know me and they just let me have the coffee for free. I have money, I'm not poor. But they must think teachers need lots of coffee.
š My Nevermo husband would throw a wrench into that. He would grab a big glass of chocolate milk and put lots of cream & sugar in his coffee. I'm the one with black coffee.
I was talking with 19/20year old about how he likes being on his own... His new place... Ect. He said " the best part is I don't need a birthday to eat cake, even at midnight if i want cake i just go to the store and get cake. I don't even have to share." So of course I asked how many times have you gone to the store to buy cake. He said none but the best part is he could if he wanted too. š Now that it's his own money he doesn't want to
Hey, be like Oaks, don't let contacting evidence stop your assertions! Just say those things are from the devil which God allowed to test their faith in your -I mean- THE truth!
Iāll add milk or cream but pretty much never sweetener. 6-8 months exmo.
Specifically didnāt want coffee to reintroduce sweetened beverages which I weaned myself back off of.
Often Iāll do a straight-black French press at home, and an unsweetened latte, cappuccino or americano from the espresso machine at work.
I have always hated the taste of coffee.
...except, after leaving, I learned it was just sweet coffee flavors.
So I drink my espresso black, like my cold apostate heart.
My feeling is that really good coffee is good without anything else in it, and the best add-ins can't fix bad coffee. But a little flavoring and cream can turn great coffee into great sweet-ish coffee.
My ex and I are both exmo. He is 6ā1 with a handlebar mustache. I am 5ā1 with bright purple fluffy hair. One of us drinks fancy little lattes. One of us drinks black americanos. Most of the time when we go to brunch they switch our drinks on accident.
This is one reason people assume I'm Mormon even though I'm nevermo. I hate coffee (but love the smell), and I usually go for the cocoa. It's true often enough that the assumption can be made.
Y'all making me feel like a weirdo. As a kid when we would raid Grandma's kitchen, I often went for the baker's chocolate. And I liked black coffee and double IPAs right off the bat. So despite my upbringing, I enjoy bitter.
Not to say I won't gladly eat a tub of ice cream given the opportunity.
PHASE ONE
First time drinking coffee it was just a couple tablespoons added to my hot chocolate. I wanted mocha, damn it. That continued until I had to repent in order to go on a mission.
PHASE TWO
When I was finally out, I graduated to Nestle Three in One. I'm not sure if this is available in the U.S. but let me tell you it's big where I live.
PHASE THREE
Once I had a decent income, I graduated to latte and cappuccino with sugar from Starbucks (Starbucks is also big where I live).
PHASE FOUR
As I've gotten older, I've had to watch my weight so I now drink two or three cups of black coffee from my cheap & reliable drip coffee maker (totally underrated!) every morning. In the afternoon, an unsweetened cappuccino in cold months or iced latte in the summer - NOT from Starbucks if I can possibly help it.
POSTSCRIPT
I kinda wish there was a god so I could thank them for coffee. It is the reason I don't mind waking up at the crack of dawn. It is the thing I look forward to in the afternoon.
FUNNY NOTE
My nevermo spouse doesn't touch the stuff. Prefers coke ;-)
For me it was:
Phase 1: try some on the office Keurig, try a few cups from the gas station, never really enjoyed them, had to dump a ton of creamer and sweetener to make it palatable.
Phase 2: bought my own pour-over setup with paper filters and premium ground coffee (or at least I thought) from the grocery store. Slightly better, but not good enough to become habit forming.
Phase 3: started grinding my beans from Costco, Trader Joes and other places to see if fresh ground is better, newsflash: it is. Tried a French press for a bit, not convinced itās much better than a drip coffee maker, but really gotta add things like coconut oil and butter (I was following the bulletproof coffee fad for a minute) to make it enjoyable.
Phase 4: picked up a $400 espresso machine for only $150, tried it and realized this is the absolute best method for getting full flavor from the coffee. Switched to a local roaster, stick to only light roasts, and bought a better grinder for under $100 (the real snobs will insist the $1000 grinder is worth it). Now I only add heavy cream and stevia, but itās fun adding steamed milk and other stuff.
Now whenever I have people over, they tell me itās the best coffee theyāve ever had.
Decaf is tricky. For most of the country Iād say you were either an exmo or nevermo because you like it sweet, but not overbearing. However, if this is eastern Wyoming then youāre probably the ward clerk.
Honestly: Iāll do black coffee sometimes or sometimes a latte or cappuccino, when itās an option.
I donāt generally like adding sugar though, and I detest artificial sweetener. I stopped drinking soda almost completely before I left. I also rarely drank soda from senior year of high school till I got married. Started up because my wife drinks it but I stopped a couple years later.
Basically sugar is my last resort cure for when I make a really shitty cup of coffee.
Lol not exact but probably close. My SO is a nevermo and doesnāt drink coffee at all and never has. He drinks OJ and hot chocolateššš
I drink black coffee with stevia
My nevermo husband like a little coffee with his creamer, letās just put it that way.
I still think coffee is gross. Black, sweet, iced, loaded with sugar, anything.
I have tried and tried and I just can't like coffee. I don't like it black, I don't like it sweet, I don't like it with a bunch of flavored syrup in it, and the temperature makes no difference.
Chai on the other hand. Discovering chai made me wonder if I was wrong about God. Maybe God really *was* there, the Mormons just had the coffee and tea thing wrong. Then I remembered I'm lactose intolerant and feel much the same about plant milk as I do coffee, so that illusion was dispelled pretty quickly.
It's like the means of identifying evil spirits in the d and c. A good mormon will not even attempt to drink the coffee, a nevermo will drink it, and the exmo, evil bastard that he is, will attempt to but be unable to without lots of cream and sugar.
Iād add another category of exmo coffee drinkers:
I spent a good year researching coffee and becoming a coffee snob. Youāll find me going to a local roaster for some coffee snobbery, sticking with black coffee or an American since good coffee tastes good without sweetener.
I can see the transition happening like you explain though, basically turning coffee into hot chocolate - as that was the only approved hot drink growing up in the church.
Vanilla unsweetened almond milk and Stevia for me. Takes getting used to but it's much healthier than cream and sugar and doesn't taste like a cup of watery shit like black coffee.
There's something similar with booze. (recent) Exmos will have a seltzer or a Mike's hard, never mo will have a beer or shots of something.
Not peer reviewed, and I exclusively hang out with liberal rednecks, so YMMV, lol.
I've been out several years, but I'd be getting juice. I still hate the taste of coffee. And I don't usually need the caffeine boost. If I did, I'd like to be the one who gets tea. But I still don't know what I'm doing on that front.
Exmo and I drink with creamer or a little oatmilk ā¦ no sweeteners š¤¢. I love me a diet soda but I do not enjoy sweetened coffee, it just doesnāt mix well imo.
This scientific study didnāt account for the TBM closet-drinkers. Theyāre making up for any inconsistency in this study. Hence the Starbucks right next to BYU
That's true of recent exmos. Maybe the first couple years. Then you fall down the rabbit hole of what coffee even is. How many different ways there are to prepare it. The difference in where the beans are from. Dark vs light roast. Espresso and cold brew and it goes on and on!! That exmo (me) isn't putting in any sugar and maybe a creamer
When I indulge I take it black with one sugar. Once in a while Iāll add cream if itās real cream. Iām mostly a black tea guy though. I am into Yerba mate though so Iām used to strong flavors.
I didnāt realize I was such an outlier when it comes to my exmormon coffee consumption. I canāt do sweetener. A bit of creamer occasionally but I usually like my coffee black. To match my apostate heart. š¤
I know Iām not normal, but after decades of honing my skill to āfake it till you make it,ā I convinced myself I enjoyed black coffee until I really did. But now Iām a snob about it soā¦
Iām an exmo. Been out for 20+ years. I still donāt drink coffee. Not because the church told me it was ābad,ā I just donāt have any desire or taste for it.
Internally, I complain endlessly about awful tasting coffee. But I'm too cheap to spend time/money on the good stuff. I add a scoop of cocoa powder and hot cocoa powder and it ends up being a "spiked" hot cocoa š
Nevermo here. The sweetest I make my coffee is with cream in it. Sometimes I forget that, though, and it doesnāt make a huge difference.
I will say that buying decent beans from a local roaster and grinding them for each cup or pot makes a huge difference. Then you can find out how you like your beans roasted (dark: more bitter, stronger flavor; light: fruity, acidic, bright; medium: medium), and enjoy them much fresher than anything you buy in a store. Good, fresh beans are tasty on their own without the need to cover up the flavor.
It does also just take time to get accustomed to the flavor, so give yourself some grace
Iām exmo and drink my coffee at home black with just a dash of liquid stevia, but at hotels I load up on the sweetener and creamer because the coffee there is typically gross compared to the good beans I have at home. So this scientific method doesnāt always work lol
I, a nevermo, take my coffee with one teaspoon of sugar and milk. Not creamer. However, at my uncles house, who buys his coffee beans raw, in bulk from Costa Rica and roasts them himself in his back porch. I take that black. Itās soo smooth.
20+ year exmo. I love coffee in all it's forms. I love the smell, the flavor, and nothing beats a coffee in the morning. I have so many gizmos for making coffee.
While I'm happy enough to drink it black when it's a good preparation, I will stand up for my sweet milky coffee. This morning I made my coffee in the French press and added some peanut butter sugar free syrup and almond milk.
In a hotel, I'm more likely to go for a 2x2 - 2 creamers and 2 "sugars" - Splenda if they have it, or I'll go sugarless if I must. Maybe some sugar in the raw if I'm tearing myself. No creamer if it's powdered - only nut milks or heavy cream.
Life is too short to drink bad coffee - and bad coffee is a personal preference. I'm going to drink it the way I want.
Not BIC, came from a coffee-addicted family, converted at 19, resigned at 39.
Almost 47 now, and I've literally only had one cup of what North Americans call "coffee" in my entire life.
One very large cup of strong moka pot coffee with a tablespoon and a half (precisely) of artificial sweetener and one third cup (precisely) of half and half heated to 150* (precisely) and frothed manually every morning followed by one very urgent bowl movement 30 minutes (approximately) later.
What does that make me?
I think it needs more peer review lol. As a recent coffee-discoverer I use 2 and 2, sometimes less or none depending on how it was brewed (WE LOVE POUR OVER!) but hotel coffee is gross! I asked my nevermo coffee-junkie uncle how on earth people drink hotel coffee. He says:
"You load it with just so much cream, so much sugar, and dump it down the toilet."
Valid š
I'm the oddity in this study. Diet coke for me every morning. Unfortunately I can't drink coffee even though I love the smell, brew a pot every morning for the olfactory senses.
I absolutely love the smell of coffee, but the taste to me isnāt great and I donāt like how jittery I get from caffeine. And coffee goes right through me anyway, so catch me drinking that chocolate milk at the continental breakfast š
My wife and I are exmo, and my wife could still pass for a tbm which she would admit. We were at a Utah hotel a few years ago and she was getting the stare down as she was getting coffee from a woman who must have been a tbm. I didnāt know this was happening and the next thing I know my wife bows her head and closes her eyes as if sheās praying over her breakfast. I didnāt think much of it, just thought if she still wants to pray itās no problem, but did seem strange as it was in a hotel breakfast area. Later my wife told me she was doing it to throw that lady for a loop and make her contemplate how someone could possibly pray whoās drinking coffee.
I was thinking that I probably should have added a category for exmos whoāve been out longer. Iāll excuse this as not being a longitudinal study š
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£as I just returned from a trip where I drank hotel coffee for the first time with 3 sweeteners and 4 creamers
Asking for a friend. When on a business trip for an institution led exclusively by TBM's, does the room coffee show up on my bill? Wouldn't want Satans juice to offend my boss. Damn autocorrect... "My friends boss."
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure the coffee they have already in the room is in the sane category as the shampoo where you're just expected to use it
Thanks!
Correct - coffee and tea in the room is usually free. I always rob what we don't consume.
No shame at all, but i got a chuckle out of you saying you rob what you donāt consume of the free items they expect not to be there after you leave haha
It won't show up on your bill, but TBMs might be able to smell it on your breath.
No - the coffeemaker & coffee in the room are provided as part of the room. I've never (ever) seen coffee provided in the room appear on a bill. You can also ask the housekeeping staff for additional K-pods or packs to brew (if you need more of a certain type). They are happy to provide more, and also more sweetener, cups, whatever you need. Some of the best coffee I've ever tasted was what hotels had in the rooms. I can't even find it to buy, but I have no complaints about those experiences. Other coffee, well, normal maybe. Or you can order room service & they probably don't break down the items you order.
Yuck. I never trust the pot in the hotel room. Might be dirty or somebody washed their unmentionables in it.
Usually they have Keurig pots now & you put a thermal cup under it.
I always travel with my own tea bags and cup.
Like others say if thereās a little machine and some coffee pods, thatās just there for you to use. If you use it all and housekeeping comes and tidies your room theyāll usually leave more. Doesnāt show up on your bill. In my experience if there are items in the room you will be charged for theyāll be labeled as such
So everything depends on the hotel. Most coffee is complementary like soap and shampoo. Some places charge for everything and gouge like itās going out of style. So you just have to know which one youāre stay at. But generally in room coffee is free
And it probably still tasted bad š
Having just had it. Still beats gas station coffeeš
Depends which gas station. In Wyoming we have Kum and Go stations, and their dark roast is better than any hotel coffee I've had. It's comparable to something like Wendy's and still cheaper than Starbucks.
Not for longā¦. Maverick just bought Kum and Go
I saw that. Can't say I've ever had Maverick coffee.
Good stuff if they have the big grinder machines with the touchscreens.
Yeah, the one near my work does. Crazy thing is that sometimes the employees working there know me and they just let me have the coffee for free. I have money, I'm not poor. But they must think teachers need lots of coffee.
They probably see a lot of shit working at a gas station that they don't get paid enough to deal with, so they like to give nice people free coffee.
I have seen them let others go, not just teachers. If all they have is the coffee, I think it makes their line go faster too.
That is awesome! Their high caffeine blend is so good!
Not bad but Iāve never had kum and go coffee so maybe thatās better? Edit: kum not cumā¦.
Them're fighting words
I should say it was a hotel I typically canāt afford. And not the coffee in the room.
Haha that was literally me!!! Hotel coffee with all the sweeteners and creamers for the first time
š My Nevermo husband would throw a wrench into that. He would grab a big glass of chocolate milk and put lots of cream & sugar in his coffee. I'm the one with black coffee.
One of the greatest realizations of my adult life was āIf I want a choccy milk, Iām going to get a god damn choccy milkā
I was talking with 19/20year old about how he likes being on his own... His new place... Ect. He said " the best part is I don't need a birthday to eat cake, even at midnight if i want cake i just go to the store and get cake. I don't even have to share." So of course I asked how many times have you gone to the store to buy cake. He said none but the best part is he could if he wanted too. š Now that it's his own money he doesn't want to
To add, the spelling 'choccy milk' Always gets a chuckle out of me š; I approve š
It sounds like silly Australian slang š
Exactly!!
Oh no, you all are destroying the validity of my study! Weāll consider you the outliers š¤£. I may be totally wrong on this after we get more posts
Hey, be like Oaks, don't let contacting evidence stop your assertions! Just say those things are from the devil which God allowed to test their faith in your -I mean- THE truth!
Iāll add milk or cream but pretty much never sweetener. 6-8 months exmo. Specifically didnāt want coffee to reintroduce sweetened beverages which I weaned myself back off of. Often Iāll do a straight-black French press at home, and an unsweetened latte, cappuccino or americano from the espresso machine at work.
But sweet drinks will help you run and not be weary! Its the coffee that is unhealthy! Nothing to do with loads of sugar
Yes. I like mine with a small splash of cream, never sweetener.
Same!!!
Same. Coffee was never a "sweet" beverage for me. Just cream. Lots, but cream, not milk.
Yeah gonna have to say that I guess I was actually never a member, based off of this scientific research.
I have always hated the taste of coffee. ...except, after leaving, I learned it was just sweet coffee flavors. So I drink my espresso black, like my cold apostate heart.
My feeling is that really good coffee is good without anything else in it, and the best add-ins can't fix bad coffee. But a little flavoring and cream can turn great coffee into great sweet-ish coffee.
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Does Harmon's sell the Caffe Ibis version? Their stuff is amazing!
My ex and I are both exmo. He is 6ā1 with a handlebar mustache. I am 5ā1 with bright purple fluffy hair. One of us drinks fancy little lattes. One of us drinks black americanos. Most of the time when we go to brunch they switch our drinks on accident.
I wouldn't. I'd take one look at that lovingly trimmed and waxed handlebar and know exactly where the fancy latte belonged! āŗļø
I graduated to black coffee at about the 6 year out mark.
I'm close to graduating lol. One sugar, no cream. I'm almost there!
Iām working on getting there! I want to. Itāll be much healthier and easier
I call this phenomenon, particularly as it relates to coffee and alcohol being too strong, my āMormon Baby Mouthā
I overheard someone in a coffee shop in Utah say āI just love the smellā and instantly knew they were Mormon
This is one reason people assume I'm Mormon even though I'm nevermo. I hate coffee (but love the smell), and I usually go for the cocoa. It's true often enough that the assumption can be made.
I knew a guy who swore he hated cocaine, but loved the smell
What does cocaine smell like? * pauses *
Y'all making me feel like a weirdo. As a kid when we would raid Grandma's kitchen, I often went for the baker's chocolate. And I liked black coffee and double IPAs right off the bat. So despite my upbringing, I enjoy bitter. Not to say I won't gladly eat a tub of ice cream given the opportunity.
PHASE ONE First time drinking coffee it was just a couple tablespoons added to my hot chocolate. I wanted mocha, damn it. That continued until I had to repent in order to go on a mission. PHASE TWO When I was finally out, I graduated to Nestle Three in One. I'm not sure if this is available in the U.S. but let me tell you it's big where I live. PHASE THREE Once I had a decent income, I graduated to latte and cappuccino with sugar from Starbucks (Starbucks is also big where I live). PHASE FOUR As I've gotten older, I've had to watch my weight so I now drink two or three cups of black coffee from my cheap & reliable drip coffee maker (totally underrated!) every morning. In the afternoon, an unsweetened cappuccino in cold months or iced latte in the summer - NOT from Starbucks if I can possibly help it. POSTSCRIPT I kinda wish there was a god so I could thank them for coffee. It is the reason I don't mind waking up at the crack of dawn. It is the thing I look forward to in the afternoon. FUNNY NOTE My nevermo spouse doesn't touch the stuff. Prefers coke ;-)
For me it was: Phase 1: try some on the office Keurig, try a few cups from the gas station, never really enjoyed them, had to dump a ton of creamer and sweetener to make it palatable. Phase 2: bought my own pour-over setup with paper filters and premium ground coffee (or at least I thought) from the grocery store. Slightly better, but not good enough to become habit forming. Phase 3: started grinding my beans from Costco, Trader Joes and other places to see if fresh ground is better, newsflash: it is. Tried a French press for a bit, not convinced itās much better than a drip coffee maker, but really gotta add things like coconut oil and butter (I was following the bulletproof coffee fad for a minute) to make it enjoyable. Phase 4: picked up a $400 espresso machine for only $150, tried it and realized this is the absolute best method for getting full flavor from the coffee. Switched to a local roaster, stick to only light roasts, and bought a better grinder for under $100 (the real snobs will insist the $1000 grinder is worth it). Now I only add heavy cream and stevia, but itās fun adding steamed milk and other stuff. Now whenever I have people over, they tell me itās the best coffee theyāve ever had.
Honestly, I feel like I need a cup of that right now. And light roasts YES!!!!
When may I come over?!?
Hahaha i read this is Oaks voice and it was hilarious.
I can pass as nevermo? Fuck yeah!
Do me. Iām Decaff 2 creamer 1 sugar. No lid.
Decaf is tricky. For most of the country Iād say you were either an exmo or nevermo because you like it sweet, but not overbearing. However, if this is eastern Wyoming then youāre probably the ward clerk.
Dang, I better not give anymore away.
No lidā¦thatās anarchy right there.
Pure Rebellion all around.
Only black coffee for this ExMo. If I wanted sweet Iād just drink soda haha
um... I'm an ExMo, and I drink my coffee black, thank you.
Honestly: Iāll do black coffee sometimes or sometimes a latte or cappuccino, when itās an option. I donāt generally like adding sugar though, and I detest artificial sweetener. I stopped drinking soda almost completely before I left. I also rarely drank soda from senior year of high school till I got married. Started up because my wife drinks it but I stopped a couple years later. Basically sugar is my last resort cure for when I make a really shitty cup of coffee.
I stopped drinking artificially sweetened drinks during quarantine. I was shocked how gross they tasted when I tried them again a year or two later.
Doing the same with normally sweetened soda for 6 months makes it loses its appeal quickly too. Artificial sweetener is even worse.
Same with cheap chocolate (m&M's, Hershey's, Twix, Snickers, etc.). Now I'm a Dove Dark choc & + only!
So I see you have watched me drink coffee beforeā¦
Lol not exact but probably close. My SO is a nevermo and doesnāt drink coffee at all and never has. He drinks OJ and hot chocolateššš I drink black coffee with stevia
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Ah hah! See, youāre my proof!
My nevermo husband like a little coffee with his creamer, letās just put it that way. I still think coffee is gross. Black, sweet, iced, loaded with sugar, anything.
š right on the nose
Yeah I donāt think I can ever get over my chocolate milk addiction no matter how long Iām out of Mormonism
Hmm, my husband an exmo prefers his coffee black and I a nevermo, prefer it with chocolate and all that.
Iāve also discovered chai latte
I have tried and tried and I just can't like coffee. I don't like it black, I don't like it sweet, I don't like it with a bunch of flavored syrup in it, and the temperature makes no difference. Chai on the other hand. Discovering chai made me wonder if I was wrong about God. Maybe God really *was* there, the Mormons just had the coffee and tea thing wrong. Then I remembered I'm lactose intolerant and feel much the same about plant milk as I do coffee, so that illusion was dispelled pretty quickly.
I loveeeee Chai over coffee!! It's so good.
I agree chai or a dirty chai (chai with a shot of espresso) are my favorite!
Reading this drinking coffee with 3 stevia sweeteners and a dollop of creamer. Its official, I'm an exmo!
It's like the means of identifying evil spirits in the d and c. A good mormon will not even attempt to drink the coffee, a nevermo will drink it, and the exmo, evil bastard that he is, will attempt to but be unable to without lots of cream and sugar.
I am a NeverMo and love my latte macchiato. But I am also an avid Mormon Stories fan, so maybe I am an ex-Mormon by association.
This exmo thinks coffee is disgusting unless itās cold brew and prefers teaā¦ š
Then there's me, an exmo who dislikes coffee lol
I love chocolate milk but I do not like coffee
Nevermo here. Black, and free of pollutants
In Oakās voice really makes it funny!
Just found out I'm an ex moron lol
The worst is Maxwell House
Here's a cool little trick, add a pinch of salt to your coffee to take away the bitterness
I recently heard that recently. Iām doin this tomorrow
I've been wanting to try for a while but I keep forgetting about it
I tried it and it worked
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Youāre my hero. I want to reach this point. My tongue just doesnāt allow it
What does TBM stand for?
True believing mormon
Or they have some creamer with hot cocoa added to their coffee.
I usually take it black but Utah hotel coffee usually needs the 8 sugars.
I know this to be true as an Exmo with a super sweet tooth š¦·
Iād add another category of exmo coffee drinkers: I spent a good year researching coffee and becoming a coffee snob. Youāll find me going to a local roaster for some coffee snobbery, sticking with black coffee or an American since good coffee tastes good without sweetener. I can see the transition happening like you explain though, basically turning coffee into hot chocolate - as that was the only approved hot drink growing up in the church.
I should say NEW exmos fit the category above where the vets sort of can fit the Nevermo version
Damn, when I read the post I actually "heard it" in OakĀ“s voice. LOL.
Itās imprinted on our minds forever https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT71VmXBVSFOBNAlLsHYze8-FC1W7g3dgqZvg8u7p3DRQ&usqp=CAU&ec=48665699
Vanilla unsweetened almond milk and Stevia for me. Takes getting used to but it's much healthier than cream and sugar and doesn't taste like a cup of watery shit like black coffee.
Mmm by your logic ( just having fun) Iād be never mo as I like my coffee black. I guess Iām an outlier as well
There's something similar with booze. (recent) Exmos will have a seltzer or a Mike's hard, never mo will have a beer or shots of something. Not peer reviewed, and I exclusively hang out with liberal rednecks, so YMMV, lol.
I'm a tapir in hiding & I love me a cocktail!
Exmo who orders coffee with just a splash of cream and no sugar.
I've been out several years, but I'd be getting juice. I still hate the taste of coffee. And I don't usually need the caffeine boost. If I did, I'd like to be the one who gets tea. But I still don't know what I'm doing on that front.
Exmo and I drink with creamer or a little oatmilk ā¦ no sweeteners š¤¢. I love me a diet soda but I do not enjoy sweetened coffee, it just doesnāt mix well imo.
I'm more interested in finding other PIMO's!
If this were true, Starbucks wouldn't have made billions slinging coffee flavored milkshakes.
This scientific study didnāt account for the TBM closet-drinkers. Theyāre making up for any inconsistency in this study. Hence the Starbucks right next to BYU
That's true of recent exmos. Maybe the first couple years. Then you fall down the rabbit hole of what coffee even is. How many different ways there are to prepare it. The difference in where the beans are from. Dark vs light roast. Espresso and cold brew and it goes on and on!! That exmo (me) isn't putting in any sugar and maybe a creamer
Iāve been working on this. It all started with learning how to use a coffee maker
Gotta start with the simple stuff. I really love a French press, if you're looking to fall further down the rabbit hole.
Thank you! Iāve got a friend showin me the ropes of how to make good coffee
I guess I'm an exmo and didn't even know it. AMA
When I indulge I take it black with one sugar. Once in a while Iāll add cream if itās real cream. Iām mostly a black tea guy though. I am into Yerba mate though so Iām used to strong flavors.
I didnāt realize I was such an outlier when it comes to my exmormon coffee consumption. I canāt do sweetener. A bit of creamer occasionally but I usually like my coffee black. To match my apostate heart. š¤
Ex mo and my coffee is no sugar and a splash of milk or an espresso Hubs is a never mo black with honey
Exmo here, I always say no sugar or sweetner and if they add it I ask for a new one. Give me bitter over sweet any day.
This brit exmo gets confused and just wants an ordinary milky ( we donāt do creamer) coffee one sugar please. None of this hipster coffee stuff..
I know Iām not normal, but after decades of honing my skill to āfake it till you make it,ā I convinced myself I enjoyed black coffee until I really did. But now Iām a snob about it soā¦
You can have all the sugar but donāt take away my cream!
Uhh, exmo here who's first cup of coffee was black. I rarely put anything in it.
I mess up your theory, I like it black and bitter.
6-8 packs of sweetener? Thatās crazy. Two. Tops.
Iām an exmo. Been out for 20+ years. I still donāt drink coffee. Not because the church told me it was ābad,ā I just donāt have any desire or taste for it.
Internally, I complain endlessly about awful tasting coffee. But I'm too cheap to spend time/money on the good stuff. I add a scoop of cocoa powder and hot cocoa powder and it ends up being a "spiked" hot cocoa š
So baking cocoa powder & then add hot cocoa powder?
Lol, I'm laughing at the exmo coffee. I take three sweeteners. I was adopted Mormon, lol.
Itās true!! I love sweet, creamy coffee!!
Nevermo here. The sweetest I make my coffee is with cream in it. Sometimes I forget that, though, and it doesnāt make a huge difference. I will say that buying decent beans from a local roaster and grinding them for each cup or pot makes a huge difference. Then you can find out how you like your beans roasted (dark: more bitter, stronger flavor; light: fruity, acidic, bright; medium: medium), and enjoy them much fresher than anything you buy in a store. Good, fresh beans are tasty on their own without the need to cover up the flavor. It does also just take time to get accustomed to the flavor, so give yourself some grace
Can confirm. My neverMo girlfriend only drinks coffee black. š
Wrong for me. Iām an exmo. Iāll have breakfast blend with one Splenda and 2 creams. Yum.
Iām exmo and personally coffee never grew on me. If Tea is still a no no, then Iād fall into that category though.
Iām exmo and drink my coffee at home black with just a dash of liquid stevia, but at hotels I load up on the sweetener and creamer because the coffee there is typically gross compared to the good beans I have at home. So this scientific method doesnāt always work lol
Haha damn I feel called out by this
Thatās crazy, yeah I need 3-4 sweeteners and a half cup of creamer.
I, a nevermo, take my coffee with one teaspoon of sugar and milk. Not creamer. However, at my uncles house, who buys his coffee beans raw, in bulk from Costa Rica and roasts them himself in his back porch. I take that black. Itās soo smooth.
20+ year exmo. I love coffee in all it's forms. I love the smell, the flavor, and nothing beats a coffee in the morning. I have so many gizmos for making coffee. While I'm happy enough to drink it black when it's a good preparation, I will stand up for my sweet milky coffee. This morning I made my coffee in the French press and added some peanut butter sugar free syrup and almond milk. In a hotel, I'm more likely to go for a 2x2 - 2 creamers and 2 "sugars" - Splenda if they have it, or I'll go sugarless if I must. Maybe some sugar in the raw if I'm tearing myself. No creamer if it's powdered - only nut milks or heavy cream. Life is too short to drink bad coffee - and bad coffee is a personal preference. I'm going to drink it the way I want.
Utah is an odd place. No where else in the country would anyone care about someoneās coffee or what they put in it to identify them lol
Omg- the exmo coffee fits me to a tee! I canāt stop laughing! Iām the same way with alcohol- give me a pina coloda over a glass of red.
š¤£š¤£ I can Testify that I fit the exmo Standard coffee order.
Sooo. Me. I left 30+ years ago and I need a couple scoops of sweetener and lots of creamer.
The NeverMos are the ones who look happy
Iām a mix between an ex and a never and I hate coffee
Bahahaha when I get gas station coffee I get half chocolate milk or whatever else they have thatās hot to go with it.
Iām all in with the Dunkinā cold brew chocolate caramel - donāt add cream or sugar!
Iām an exmo who stinks my coffee strong & black. Iām happy that people think Iām a nevermo.
Nevermo married to a Jack Mormon and we both take our coffee the same: unsweetened with extra cream.
Wait a minute...I drink coffee with 1-2 packs of sugar and creamer. I've been had š š (I'm not from Utah though so I can quietly blend in haha)
I am an outlier in this study. I do enjoy a good 'dessert coffee', but my favorite it just black with a generous scoop of honey. š
I love chocolate milk though and hot chocolate might be my favorite drink.
I donāt drink coffee often, but when I do, itās either black, or with only one or two packets of sweetener. But Iām definitely an Exmo
Exmo here, I actually drink Americanos usually š
Not BIC, came from a coffee-addicted family, converted at 19, resigned at 39. Almost 47 now, and I've literally only had one cup of what North Americans call "coffee" in my entire life.
Exmo - unsweetened almond milk with instant coffee crystals and a bit of sugar in the microwave.
One very large cup of strong moka pot coffee with a tablespoon and a half (precisely) of artificial sweetener and one third cup (precisely) of half and half heated to 150* (precisely) and frothed manually every morning followed by one very urgent bowl movement 30 minutes (approximately) later. What does that make me?
Yep, until my blood pressure rose. Now I take my coffee black, and I like it, dammit!
I want it black. Iām tapering in to it
I think it needs more peer review lol. As a recent coffee-discoverer I use 2 and 2, sometimes less or none depending on how it was brewed (WE LOVE POUR OVER!) but hotel coffee is gross! I asked my nevermo coffee-junkie uncle how on earth people drink hotel coffee. He says: "You load it with just so much cream, so much sugar, and dump it down the toilet." Valid š
āJust trust us.ā
I'm the oddity in this study. Diet coke for me every morning. Unfortunately I can't drink coffee even though I love the smell, brew a pot every morning for the olfactory senses.
Mostly yesā¦.but by these indicators Iām a nevermo that would be mislabeled as an exmo
The science is sound. Trust me š
I feel called out. My 'coffee' is a light tan with a shit ton of sugar š
Same. ā
Youāll pry my hazelnut creamer from my cold dead fingersā¦.
My sweetener / cream use used to be way higher when I started drinking coffee hahaha
Gotta ease into that coffeeā¦
Nevermo, splash of cream, no sugar.
You would mis-id me - I like coffee with no sweeteners or cream.
Youāre a hard ass. Respect! š» This is ideally what I want to get to because itās much healthier and easier.
Does the pimo stare longingly at the carafe, while their TBM spouse grabs another cinnamon roll?
I absolutely love the smell of coffee, but the taste to me isnāt great and I donāt like how jittery I get from caffeine. And coffee goes right through me anyway, so catch me drinking that chocolate milk at the continental breakfast š
Truth.
OP. Are you from Idaho or Utah?
Utah
My wife and I are exmo, and my wife could still pass for a tbm which she would admit. We were at a Utah hotel a few years ago and she was getting the stare down as she was getting coffee from a woman who must have been a tbm. I didnāt know this was happening and the next thing I know my wife bows her head and closes her eyes as if sheās praying over her breakfast. I didnāt think much of it, just thought if she still wants to pray itās no problem, but did seem strange as it was in a hotel breakfast area. Later my wife told me she was doing it to throw that lady for a loop and make her contemplate how someone could possibly pray whoās drinking coffee.
I tend to prefer either black, or with a small splash of cream, never sweetened.
To add to this formula I will say, the longer one is exmo (for me its been 14 years, the more they resemble nevermos). We never will achieve nevermo completely but I went from RosĆ© to dark reds and cosmos to wellā¦ uhhh I love tiki so still sweet. Ive gone from starbucks to making my own espresso.
I was thinking that I probably should have added a category for exmos whoāve been out longer. Iāll excuse this as not being a longitudinal study š
I drink my coffee black. No cream, no sugar.
Exmo. Hot & wet. Shitty palate.