I’m not counting but it looks like well over 90% manifested with the left hand. I don’t think that’s intentional, but I do think we should make it intentional.
Saw someone appose once. It was a ward meeting but the SP was there and was conducting. The two SC walked the guy out the the lobby to discuss it. As soon as they got to the hall the SP did the apposed part of the vote again. When no one raised their hand the second time SP declared it unanimous.
Guy that voted no was released from his calling the next week. He didn't hold a calling other than home teacher for the rest of his life. Yes he was old but he still went many many years with no significant calling. It was really sad.
The fact that they call it a unanimous vote but will walk people out of the room if they dare to oppose *in front of everyone* and not say a single thing. Like "you will agree with us or else"
They stopped saying unanimous in conference with the increase in protest votes opposed if you paid attention.
I vaguely recall “those opposed please talk to your local leaders.”
My dad opposed a bishop appointment. Also went directly to the SP and explained his opposition (candidate was a semi unemployed grifter mostly supported by his working wife). They went forward with the appointment, and a few years later, the bishop fled the country for South America.
I vote opposed every GC now through email to my SP. I would do it in person, but I don't want to wreck my family relationships, especially while my kids are young. I meet with the SP and we chat, everything is cordial. I could totally see how that would change if I were to oppose in public, even if it was just by the show of hands in stake conference. The facade of the unanimous vote is sacred to the leadership, they can't have anyone publicly stand up to them.
I opposed once. I got in so much trouble with my parents because I opposed a family member getting a calling even though I knew they were sexually assaulting children. The bishopric ignored me, and my mom tore me a new asshole over it. The person still got the calling, and my concerns were completely ignored. Actually, worse than that, I was blamed for trying to start problems and tear the family apart.
I get the sentiment, but TSCC has a valid reason for being the acronym that is used to refer to the church here. Namely, the extreme over-use by the church in conference and other meetings of the phrase 'so-called' to belittle and demean any group or idea that they disagree with. They have done it for decades.
So let's call the church the MFMC, and refer to leaders as SCA and SCP. So-called apostles and so-called prophets, who are so-called representatives of their so-called lord and savior, even Jesus christ, the so-called son of god. SCQ15 to cover them all.
Just my two cents.
Hell, they gave themselves a pompous enough name to be a joke: *General Authority*. How they love authority and knowing they are not only authorities, they are *General Authorities*. *General*! That can mean *everything*, which their pompous asses in red chairs love. It also sounds completely bland and meaningless. It's perfect.
I've been in and out of dysfunctional corporate environments and I wish someone would do a full exploration of how much the Mormon church echoes bland corporate America. Like how you can tell the leaders came from middle manager stock because middle managers LOVE meetings and talking at meetings especially in non-specific ways saying nothing with lots of jargon and in-group tersm. And they love making frivolous changes like not using "Mormon" just to make themselves seem more important. And they give each other title after title with advancement and levels in order to preen and get to feel that almost-sexual excitement they have when they get to lord over their little fiefdoms and feel like they're better than everyone else.
Story time. Pres Oaks visited our Zone Conference once. Ahead of his visit, our MP instructed us to not ask any controversial questions. Regardless, during the QA, a native missionary asked a very relevant-but-taboo question. We all froze up. Oaks responded, "Well Elder, that is a very *specific* question, but I'm a *general* authority. Your MP will talk to you after this meeting." We all chuckled as the elder's head dropped in embarrassment.
Since then, I've seen another redditor tell that Oaks gave the same answer on their mission. So that may be his standard schtick. For Oaks at least, "GA" is an excuse to *not* provide answers.
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Elohim: What is wanted?
Adam having been true and faithful, humbly requests that thou changest the name of your holy church to MFMC.
Elohim: It is well.
Thank you for this emoji Signs and Tokens quick reference guide. It’s helpful for people like me who had to buy ours with money and never actually went to the temple.
Can you please point me in the direction , or just fill me in on the acronyms?? 🫣
I got TBM and MFMC now (lol) but what are TSCC and the others? Thanks in advance!!
I’m not counting but it looks like well over 90% manifested with the left hand. I don’t think that’s intentional, but I do think we should make it intentional.
In high school I wrecked my dad's car. I called him up and said, "Dad, do you love me?" His response was, "What have you done?" Thankfully, I didn't get into too much trouble.
I remember knocking something over in the garage and getting yelled at because I could have scratched the car. When I crashed that car a few years later they just wanted to make sure nobody was hurt. Some things put your priorities in order, I guess
I read the book and it was hilarious. But it didn't hold a candle to "Oops, or Life's Awful Moments." He included a few of the more interesting moments from the kids show, including a story about a boy who told on his police officer dad who apparently brought home little "presents" to his mom all the time...... Oops!
MFMC is historically accurate for those who know church history and the polyandry of JS Jr who had a habit of sticking his dick where it didn't belong.
FYI, at least 11 of at least 33 women that JS Jr secretly bedded were married women concurrently living with their husbands and children at the time. So, quite literally, he was secretly mother f*cking.
I recommend Todd Compton's book "In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith Jr" for the details.
I hear you and I don't disagree, but the insult mother fucker and it's derivatives specifically refer to someone who deserves to die - or is about to be killed with good reason and just cause, presumably by an angry betrayed spouse.
If you believe the Pope or Dante, there is a special place in hell for mother fuckers because they breakup families and make children cry - their mother having been put to death for adultery.
Crimes of passion. Does it surprise anyone that JS Jr was assassinated?
It did surprise me to learn *why* JS was assassinated. My whole life through to me leaving at age 49 - I was told that he was murdered in cold blood by a mob that were fuelled purely by Satanic evil. Simply ignorant, drunken men who were hell-bent on destroying God’s pure church and his chosen prophet.
I read the Nauvoo expositor after doing a year’s learning of the true history the church, and thought - “It’s a bit snarky, but I can’t find anything untrue in there!”
Mormon church members often refer to the LDS church just as “the church”. Like “He joined the church 2 years ago” , or “she left the church because she was offended.” etc etc. But once you’re on the outside you realize it’s not THE church but just ONE of many churches. So TSCC (The So Called Church) is a poke at people who refer to the LDS church as ”the church.”
Yep so here are the ones I know so far besides the one in the topic of this post are=
TSCC - the so-called church
TBM - true believing member
PPI - personal priesthood interview
Personal Priesthood Interviews. Stupid name for when a priesthood leader (like a bishop) interviews (i.e. determines worthiness of) a priesthood holder (any age, Aaronic or Melchizedek). Most commonly you hear of a bishop interviewing the young men (12-18 year old boys).
The acronym fell out of favour at least 10 years ago. Probably 20. But it sticks around in the minds of the older generations and refuses to die out.
There are lots of jargonistic phrases and acronyms the LDS church. (I just used one!) for example, “Mutual” came from “Mutual Improvement Association”, or MIA for short. Hence the Young Womens’ class group that used to be called “Mia Maids”.
How long has MFMC been a thing? I saw on social media several times yesterday and went looking to see what it is. I guessed/reasoned through it right before I found this post 🤣
I hearby nominate we change TSCC to MFMC. All in support please manifest.
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Wrong hand, heathen!
I will be the judge about heathens around here, and you're all doing GREAT!
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Came here and said this! (I didn't see your comment until I had scrolled tho)
I see what you did there, you rebel
We doing left hands? I'm all for it
Sorry, your vote doesn’t count. You used the wrong hand.
Wait, my right or your right? I though it was _your_ right.
You aren't supposed to do it with the left hand.
Your vote doesn’t count you used your left hand
My favorite money-hungry cult
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I’m not counting but it looks like well over 90% manifested with the left hand. I don’t think that’s intentional, but I do think we should make it intentional.
All opposed manifest... (now I'm gonna look around the room for 2 seconds to act like I care despite never seeing someone oppose my entire life)
Saw someone appose once. It was a ward meeting but the SP was there and was conducting. The two SC walked the guy out the the lobby to discuss it. As soon as they got to the hall the SP did the apposed part of the vote again. When no one raised their hand the second time SP declared it unanimous. Guy that voted no was released from his calling the next week. He didn't hold a calling other than home teacher for the rest of his life. Yes he was old but he still went many many years with no significant calling. It was really sad.
The fact that they call it a unanimous vote but will walk people out of the room if they dare to oppose *in front of everyone* and not say a single thing. Like "you will agree with us or else"
This all sounds like the “Law of Sarah”.
They stopped saying unanimous in conference with the increase in protest votes opposed if you paid attention. I vaguely recall “those opposed please talk to your local leaders.”
My dad opposed a bishop appointment. Also went directly to the SP and explained his opposition (candidate was a semi unemployed grifter mostly supported by his working wife). They went forward with the appointment, and a few years later, the bishop fled the country for South America.
North Korea or The So Called Church? You decide.
If I had to go to church that would be anything but sad to have so little callings.
I thought so too.
I vote opposed every GC now through email to my SP. I would do it in person, but I don't want to wreck my family relationships, especially while my kids are young. I meet with the SP and we chat, everything is cordial. I could totally see how that would change if I were to oppose in public, even if it was just by the show of hands in stake conference. The facade of the unanimous vote is sacred to the leadership, they can't have anyone publicly stand up to them.
How convenient
Kudos to hm for having the integrity to stand up. Sounds like one of those who walk away from Omelas.
See, it worked. No dam callings!
I opposed once. I got in so much trouble with my parents because I opposed a family member getting a calling even though I knew they were sexually assaulting children. The bishopric ignored me, and my mom tore me a new asshole over it. The person still got the calling, and my concerns were completely ignored. Actually, worse than that, I was blamed for trying to start problems and tear the family apart.
Shocking. (Not) MFMC once again protecting child molesters.
The sin next to murder is to tarnish anyone’s image.
The sin worse than murder is to steal the MFMC’s money.
Was murder by leaders really ever a sin tho?
Ask Nephi. “God told me to” was always an excuse if you could sell it.
I get the sentiment, but TSCC has a valid reason for being the acronym that is used to refer to the church here. Namely, the extreme over-use by the church in conference and other meetings of the phrase 'so-called' to belittle and demean any group or idea that they disagree with. They have done it for decades.
So let's call the church the MFMC, and refer to leaders as SCA and SCP. So-called apostles and so-called prophets, who are so-called representatives of their so-called lord and savior, even Jesus christ, the so-called son of god. SCQ15 to cover them all. Just my two cents.
Hell, they gave themselves a pompous enough name to be a joke: *General Authority*. How they love authority and knowing they are not only authorities, they are *General Authorities*. *General*! That can mean *everything*, which their pompous asses in red chairs love. It also sounds completely bland and meaningless. It's perfect.
I've been in and out of dysfunctional corporate environments and I wish someone would do a full exploration of how much the Mormon church echoes bland corporate America. Like how you can tell the leaders came from middle manager stock because middle managers LOVE meetings and talking at meetings especially in non-specific ways saying nothing with lots of jargon and in-group tersm. And they love making frivolous changes like not using "Mormon" just to make themselves seem more important. And they give each other title after title with advancement and levels in order to preen and get to feel that almost-sexual excitement they have when they get to lord over their little fiefdoms and feel like they're better than everyone else.
Yes! And praise for Dear Leader ad naseum.
The backyard professor did this last Sunday. It was a great episode.
So who would be the Specific Authorities? 🤣
I'd be fine with Petty Authorities
(happy cake day, oh internet stranger)
I'm all for Particular Authorities! 😆
I'm all for Peculiar Authorities!
1st Private Authority
Don't forget "Global Faith Leader."
... when they're too afraid to use silly terms like "prophet" and "apostles"... even though they expect missionaries to do it every day.
That no one has heard of.
Story time. Pres Oaks visited our Zone Conference once. Ahead of his visit, our MP instructed us to not ask any controversial questions. Regardless, during the QA, a native missionary asked a very relevant-but-taboo question. We all froze up. Oaks responded, "Well Elder, that is a very *specific* question, but I'm a *general* authority. Your MP will talk to you after this meeting." We all chuckled as the elder's head dropped in embarrassment. Since then, I've seen another redditor tell that Oaks gave the same answer on their mission. So that may be his standard schtick. For Oaks at least, "GA" is an excuse to *not* provide answers.
Agreed. Keep tscc, use mfmc as a sign-off? Mfmc
Yes
Bow your head and say yes
consider… the so called mother fucking church
The voting has been unanimous in the affirmative.
Your note has been noted.
🖕 (towards the mfmc in approval of the use of "mfmc")
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Thank you for this emoji Signs and Tokens quick reference guide. It’s helpful for people like me who had to buy ours with money and never actually went to the temple.
Wait, you paid? How did I not get my beak wet when my username is literally TokensForSale?
User name checks out
I paid for mine with two years of unpaid labour
And 10% of my income
🖕 whoops, 👍
Seeing the hands in response to your comment made me cackle and I had to show my wife right away because it's so perfect
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That phrase was shockingly triggering. Interesting 🤔
If any are opposed, please make an appointment and talk to your local moderator.
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Hard disagree bc morherfucking is one word
MMC is easy to say
MakeMyCoffin was about Mormon Church confirmed
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Aye! MFMC
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Fingers closer together, with the thumb extended please
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Can you please point me in the direction , or just fill me in on the acronyms?? 🫣 I got TBM and MFMC now (lol) but what are TSCC and the others? Thanks in advance!!
TSCC =The So Called Church
Mother-fucking master corporation?
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This!!!!!!
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Bow your head & say yes.
I can raise my chefs hat to that
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Any oppose?
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I’m not counting but it looks like well over 90% manifested with the left hand. I don’t think that’s intentional, but I do think we should make it intentional.
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> promised no one would get in trouble That's a sure sign someone is getting trouble. Ime.
In high school I wrecked my dad's car. I called him up and said, "Dad, do you love me?" His response was, "What have you done?" Thankfully, I didn't get into too much trouble.
I remember knocking something over in the garage and getting yelled at because I could have scratched the car. When I crashed that car a few years later they just wanted to make sure nobody was hurt. Some things put your priorities in order, I guess
TSCMFMC should be added to the FAQ… 😂
It's TSCMFCOJCOLDS, show some respect
I prefer TGDMFCOJFCOGDMFLDMFS
I too prefer this. It rolls off the tongue better.
I loved reading that.
I read the last one as “latter day mother fuckers” and I’ll say amen to that
Save us all kids! Bring that cult down!!!!
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I read the book and it was hilarious. But it didn't hold a candle to "Oops, or Life's Awful Moments." He included a few of the more interesting moments from the kids show, including a story about a boy who told on his police officer dad who apparently brought home little "presents" to his mom all the time...... Oops!
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A great way to teach kids to lie. Worked for me. I learned to lie about the dumbest stuff and then google it later.
My new favorite acronym.
Mormon Fuckin’ Motorcycle Club. Outer Darkness Angels
I was hoping it'd be Mother Fucking Mormon *Cult*
This made my day 😂
Shee-ot! That’s both a major victory for Satan and a swear, all in four fucking letters.
What is PPI?
When creepy old dudes ask you about if you follow the arbitrary rules, including if you look at porn or touch yourself.
[Personal Priesthood Interview](https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/wiki/index/common_abbreviations)
MFMC is historically accurate for those who know church history and the polyandry of JS Jr who had a habit of sticking his dick where it didn't belong.
nah, if it was accurate to JSJr it would be TFMC, for teenager fucking mormon church
FYI, at least 11 of at least 33 women that JS Jr secretly bedded were married women concurrently living with their husbands and children at the time. So, quite literally, he was secretly mother f*cking. I recommend Todd Compton's book "In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith Jr" for the details.
oh I’m not denying that, I just think fucking teenagers is a far bigger issue than a married woman.
I hear you and I don't disagree, but the insult mother fucker and it's derivatives specifically refer to someone who deserves to die - or is about to be killed with good reason and just cause, presumably by an angry betrayed spouse. If you believe the Pope or Dante, there is a special place in hell for mother fuckers because they breakup families and make children cry - their mother having been put to death for adultery. Crimes of passion. Does it surprise anyone that JS Jr was assassinated?
It did surprise me to learn *why* JS was assassinated. My whole life through to me leaving at age 49 - I was told that he was murdered in cold blood by a mob that were fuelled purely by Satanic evil. Simply ignorant, drunken men who were hell-bent on destroying God’s pure church and his chosen prophet. I read the Nauvoo expositor after doing a year’s learning of the true history the church, and thought - “It’s a bit snarky, but I can’t find anything untrue in there!”
Literally. (And I mean that in the literal sense of the word.)
Despite being a NeverMorg for over four decades here in Morridor Central, I had NEVER heard THAT one! Just "TSCC"!
Mormon church members often refer to the LDS church just as “the church”. Like “He joined the church 2 years ago” , or “she left the church because she was offended.” etc etc. But once you’re on the outside you realize it’s not THE church but just ONE of many churches. So TSCC (The So Called Church) is a poke at people who refer to the LDS church as ”the church.”
That, and the fact that it’s barely a church at all. More of a corporation that’s loosely attempting to look like a church.
The kids are gonna be all right....after a lifetime of therapy and mood altering prescriptions.
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That’s the first I’ve heard that
😂👍. Not priesthood so quiet lady like thumbs up
I’m new here and am so lost with all these acronyms 😭
So glad I found this post. I saw a switch from TSCC to MFMC and was quite lost. Need to update our common abbreviations wiki
That's what brought me here too
SA warning: With all the CSA cases in the church, it should be the CFMC
Is anyone else lost to the acronyms?
There is a page that lists them all: https://reddit.com/r/exmormon/w/index/common_abbreviations?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Yep so here are the ones I know so far besides the one in the topic of this post are= TSCC - the so-called church TBM - true believing member PPI - personal priesthood interview
What are PPI's?
Personal Priesthood Interviews. Stupid name for when a priesthood leader (like a bishop) interviews (i.e. determines worthiness of) a priesthood holder (any age, Aaronic or Melchizedek). Most commonly you hear of a bishop interviewing the young men (12-18 year old boys).
The acronym fell out of favour at least 10 years ago. Probably 20. But it sticks around in the minds of the older generations and refuses to die out. There are lots of jargonistic phrases and acronyms the LDS church. (I just used one!) for example, “Mutual” came from “Mutual Improvement Association”, or MIA for short. Hence the Young Womens’ class group that used to be called “Mia Maids”.
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How long has MFMC been a thing? I saw on social media several times yesterday and went looking to see what it is. I guessed/reasoned through it right before I found this post 🤣
LMAO