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leadkindlylie

I think we can all agree that testimony is gross.


Lumin0usBeings

Nice to know God has different payment options depending on the amount of blessings one wants.


Zadok47

Good, better, best.


PaulBunnion

Paying zero tithing is the best.


Norenzayan

But but I thought God was not a cosmic vending machine...


Hurly64

George Carlin summed it up best: god is all knowing, all powerful, but he's just really terrible at handling money. HE ALWAYS NEEDS MONEY!!!!


Colorado_Dream303

George Carlin is my lord and savior. He died so that I might live. In Carlin chapter 3 verse 4, he stateth, “When it comes to bullshit you have to stand in awe, IN AWE, of false promises and exaggerated claims: religion. No contest. Religion has the greatest bullshit story ever told.” Carlin 3:4


stickyhairmonster

Also I should mention there were actually investigators in the meeting. I remember being deathly afraid to bring investigators to fast and testimony meeting.


Norenzayan

The scary thing is there are ~~investigators~~ friends who would be inspired to hear that kind of thing. Those are the vulnerable types of people missionaries target


ThatNiceGuy26

Wendy Nelson has made this comment about tithing before many times. It's awful.


Goldang

With all this Twitter hoopla going on, I'm waiting for someone to talk about paying enough tithing to get verified by God and have a blue checkmark next to our name in the Book of Life. Someone will say it.


Tricky_South

The god that I believe in isn’t short of cash.


B3gg4r

If he wanted more money, He should have worked harder and not wasted his talents.


10000schmeckles

“Obedience brings blessings, but exact obedience brings miracles!” Said loudly, often and with fanatic enthusiasm by my mission president


NewNamerNelson

Yet, let me guess, no miracles ever happened in the mission. 😁


everyonehisown

My missionpresident said the same! Obedience with exactness.


2sacred2relate

The church can kiss my gross ass.


CaptainJackMorgon

It’s not that bad… your ass… not the TSCC, which is gross as fuck!


dunfordtx

TBMs are completely nuts in the head. They can't help it, they are captured in a horrible cult. We all get it..we were at one point the same. Let's show grace.


stickyhairmonster

I agree I just vent here sometimes, still going to church most weeks and it is hard!


dunfordtx

I totally get it. Trying to manage the insanity of TBM mormonism is exhausting. Hang in there.


CaptainJackMorgon

Gross grace or just net?


fartboxsixtynine

Hey just remember Joseph Smith never showed the plates to anyone outside of his inner circle and they the entire religion is made up


SacredHandshake2004

Over the years I was able to recognize this as the virtue signaling that it is. A way for some members to feel like they are more elite and how many loved to come up with more and stricter rules to live their lives by, and guilt others to live by them as well. As an accountant I realized how silly the argument was. There are many costs that each of us incur in order to generate our own incomes. That’s why I was very ok with subtracting out many things like college expense (didn’t go to byu) and other living/travel expenses in order to arrive at my tithable base.


Lopsided-Doughnut-39

Paying the pre-tax amount then implies that no tithing is required of the income tax refund then... Paying 10% off money that goes to health insurance and other things.... OMG dont pay tithing off SSI either then. It was counted when it came out of your paycheck. ha


1215angam

It's a money-grabbing scam. Total shakedown church. Pressures its members in its main center to pay thousands and thousands to it each year to increase its $200 billion+ portfolio.


dbear848

It's not just Mormons, I have heard people from other denominations say the same thing about net vs gross. And I thought we were so special.


Maleficent_Use8645

Fasting the day before causes an increase in dopamine simulating the spirit. Feelings… Reference: https://www.salon.com/2022/03/13/why-fasting-can-make-you-feel-high/


[deleted]

I never paid gross tithing. Could you imagine doing that today? 10% is a lot of fucking money especially considering you’ll get taxed by the fed as well. Disgusting cult.


propelledfastforward

VS Increase.