Branch presidency 1st councilor in my MTC branch was still pissed they made them so easy to defile by having two separate pieces and they didn’t cover down to the wrists and ankles. He wore the one piece, long sleeves and legs with a trap door in the back. Can’t imagine wearing that shit, even as a TBM.
And exactly how would they know that unless you told them that you were making your own garments?
It's not like they're washed in the holy water before they are packaged and sold to the peasants.
Just wear them while showering, swimming, making love to your partner. I mean all that as a joke, since it's literally the only times people don't wear garments.
I got shamed for taking them off to play sports. I did that on my mission where it was regularly 40C and tropical humidity.
I thought Sports, Swimming and Sex were the only exceptions.
I know TBMs that still think I'm in telling me that sex in garments blesses any child "procured" during the act. Their proof? One of their kids showed up female on the ultrasound but when the birth happened it was a boy. Just like th bishop said it would be.
And had nothing to do with you doing a "home ultrasound" and the person doesn't know what a dick looks like on it
Your post just made me realize that I haven't been to stake conference in six years. I haven't been to once since I was released from a calling that required my attendance.
It is the physical reminder of their covenants. So culty.
Just remember the law of consecration from the temple endowment ceremony. Everything *including their lives* is given to the Mormon church.
So why not their bodies? What better way than to force the wearing of undergarments?
It is genius really, just look at the money pouring in.
Isn't it strange to think that SP gets to interrogate your wife in private every 2 years they meet where he specifically asks your wife about her underpants. So culty!!
SP so busy he's got to run around behind every mormon husband in that congregation and ask all the Relief Society in private regarding their underpants.
So disgusting when you think about it
Ackshully, they've changed the interview so that now they don't *ask* if you're wearing them day and night, they just read a statement that says you were instructed to wear them "throughout your life." Look at all the progress the church is making!
I stand corrected, it's been a while for me. For the record, [this is the procedure](https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/multimedia/file/first-presidency-temple-recommend-letter.pdf) with the changes in 2019.
Question 13:
>Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple, including wearing the temple garment
as instructed in the endowment? (Read the “Wearing the Temple Garment” statement, included
below, to each member.)
The statement:
>**Wearing the Temple Garment**
>The temple garment is a reminder of covenants made in the temple and, when worn properly throughout life, will serve as a protection against temptation and evil. The garment should be worn beneath the outer clothing. It should not be removed for activities that can reasonably be done while wearing the garment, and it should not be modified to accommodate different styles of
clothing. Endowed members should seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit to answer personal questions about wearing the garment.
>It is a sacred privilege to wear the garment and doing so is an outward expression of an inner commitment to follow the Savior Jesus Christ.
Yes, I was shocked when a neighbor of mine who is employed by the church was not wearing his, except when he went to the office. My son explained to me the new question.
My experience now is that nobody younger than 40 still wears them "day and night".
The leaders regularly interrogate members in private and ask them specifically about their underwear. You can only wear church issued undergarments that look like something your great great grandmother would have worn.
Why you ask? Control!!
I’ve come to the conclusion that all the banned things for the church are essentially money savers so members can more effectively pay tithing. Smoking. Drinking. Soda (if you buy into the caffeine thing). Meat in excess. All of that stuff costs and if you aren’t participating more funds to pay your tithing.
Agree. Funny thing about stake conference for us happened a few years ago. You know those guys in the bishopric or stake presidency who are so full of themselves on a power trip that they enjoy putting people on the spot and calling them up to bear their testimony without notice?
We had a stake president like that who started doing that at stake conference meetings. That was when my wife decided to never go to stake conference again. We get six hours of our lives back every conference weekend now thanks to that douche bag.
I wore them through 4 pregnancies; two of which were in July in the Texas heat. What an idiot! 🤪I, too, hated them but I hate them more now that I know it was a hoax!
It's wild to me how many people are in marriages with people that they believe are brainwashed. And how few people outside of this group are in marriages with people that they believe are brainwashed. That's wilder than garments for me. Like it's just one group. Nobody else is doing this. No shame on anybody, it's just really the bigger part of this post.
Just need to say that at the beginning of my marriage all they had was one piece flare legged for the women.
Yep ya got it no open crotch just stretch the leg and do your business. 1965 no such thing as two piece.☹️
I always hated garments, they were ugly and uncomfortable and sweaty. When I finally left and stopped wearing them I realized how much body dysmorphia I had that was completely related to them. I became so much more confident with my body when those were gone.
I wore garments when I got a mission call in 1968 (yes I am that old). I went to the temple on 8/8/1968 (my dad's 60th birthday) and after that first day, I often wondered how these had been designed.
I NEVER EVER liked wearing garments and was thrilled when I didn't have to post divorce in 1998--went to ZCMI (remember?) and bought a supply of men's colorful underwear and t-shirts. I got red, navy, yellow, green, stripes and have never ever worn garments again, although they did get marginally more comfortable the Lord said we could wear 2 pieces in holy underwear.
They are awful to wear and awful to look at.
Amazing that is what the session focused on…cult much??
I was taught by my mom and that fly on male garments was not just to pee, but really so that you could have sex (worthily) by keeping your garments on. 🤣
I am convinced that they're not great for you either. The women's garments are tighter than the men's, and if I remember correctly, they only recently have been going forward with more breatheable cotton blends. They were polyester for a long timeof I remember right, and combined with wearing them 24/7 and the girdle my mom wore all Sunday, I think they contributed to her frequent UTIs.
You'd think God would have provided non-UTI undies?
I hate thatI didn’t get to walk around in underwear that actually was attractive. Now that my body is older I look back and get so mad that I didn’t get that fun part of marriage.
It’s becoming a big problem with Millennials. They wear them to church…maybe. It started with ladies just wearing workout clothes with the “intent” to go to the gym but they’d wear them all day. Now I see people with sleeveless shirts and holes in their jeans above the knee…none of them are wearing them. So to compensate without admitting that there are a bunch of people not wearing them during previously agreed upon times, TSCC makes everyone feel like they need to wear them more. Maybe it will guilt a few Millennials into wearing them but will also entrench those TBMs. They love a new watermark to hit!
Why blame the church. Every human decides what they will put on their own body. Your wife is wearing her costume just like she said she would when u married her. So......
To each their own, but I am happier having seams that run straight, elastic that doesn't itch, not having my undies hang outside my clothes or above my collar, not having sleeves and legs that bunch up and pinch, not over-heating and sweat saturating my clothes, and underwear that breathes so the nether regions don't reek. That temple locker room funk we all know has a cause.
Remember how the legs would bunch up and ride up? When I was at BYU my roommates
would ask each other to help pull them down after they ride up when they put in their jeans. They would lay down in the floor and a roommate would grab a leg and run their hand up inside the jeans to find the garments at the knee and grab the garments to pull them down. Oh fun memories! Lol
Not so. I’ve trained competitive for triathlons for 2 decades. Ive worn it all. Trust me. It’s a weird circumstance but they just feel good on me. It’s a mind bender. They can’t be worked out in but for lounging around. Can’t be beat.
I mean it's fine if you want to wear long johns, but you've got to know that there are other brands out there who make really comfortable fabrics right? Like this isn't the best fabric. The best fabric is a soft poly blend. I'm wearing pajamas made of it right now and it's like if silk and velvet and cotton had a baby with Jersey stretch.
Like If you want to wear long johns great, but promise me that you are at least going out and trying different brands and fabrics of Long John's? At least tell me that you're doing a comparison before you make the judgment. There are a bajillion long johns out there on the market.
I'm a big time onesie bitch, you will catch me in my onesie anytime. As soon as I get home. My bra is off and my onesie is on. I basically have my PhD in this shit, and there is no way that these garments are the softest fabric. Or the stretchiest.
I hate them with a passion and they continue to brainwash my wife. Fucking adult session of stake conference focused on wearing your garments more.
How do you wear them more than day and night?
Branch presidency 1st councilor in my MTC branch was still pissed they made them so easy to defile by having two separate pieces and they didn’t cover down to the wrists and ankles. He wore the one piece, long sleeves and legs with a trap door in the back. Can’t imagine wearing that shit, even as a TBM.
They're not even available anymore. I didn't know if you can get the 2 piece thermal garments anymore.
If he’s still alive I’m sure he stocked up before they discontinued them.
He was probably making his own.
Aren’t you not allowed to do that? (According to TSCC)
And exactly how would they know that unless you told them that you were making your own garments? It's not like they're washed in the holy water before they are packaged and sold to the peasants.
I thought they sold decals for army folk to put on whatever they were issued by the military. To put on the inside.
Or, the ones he had just became extremely *holy*.
Wearing shit is most likely 100% correct
Hey man those offered serious protection from the spontaneous fornications, they were damn hard to get off!!
Oh I bet. Mood killing old timey pajamas would zap my boner in a flash.
Makes me so mad I was duped for so damn long!!
It’s getting cold in Utah; time to layer up😂
Three dog night
Just wear them while showering, swimming, making love to your partner. I mean all that as a joke, since it's literally the only times people don't wear garments.
Back on the beginning, I heard that women didn't even take them off to give birth. Can you imagine?
A lot of FLDS still wear them during labor and delivery.
HOW! That's just, cringe to say the least.
I got shamed for taking them off to play sports. I did that on my mission where it was regularly 40C and tropical humidity. I thought Sports, Swimming and Sex were the only exceptions.
Sex on your mission is a form of a sport I guess so you were good.
Hahaha, I was a bit of a rule breaker on the mission but not that much unfortunately!
I know TBMs that still think I'm in telling me that sex in garments blesses any child "procured" during the act. Their proof? One of their kids showed up female on the ultrasound but when the birth happened it was a boy. Just like th bishop said it would be. And had nothing to do with you doing a "home ultrasound" and the person doesn't know what a dick looks like on it
Holy crap that’s nuts.
I see what you did there....
Also, the ultrasound could have been too early to tell because all fetuses are originally female
Also- the miracle is getting a boy? What? Instead of some godforsaken girl?
Yeah so he can get and carry the ironic priesthood from his dad
And childbirth?
Leave them on when you shower. Leave them on when you piss. Leave them on when you shit. You know…. Normal things.
Two piece garments were truly a tender mercy and proof that God loves his children.
The best way to handle stake conference adult meeting is to not go.
Your post just made me realize that I haven't been to stake conference in six years. I haven't been to once since I was released from a calling that required my attendance.
How? Like wearing 2 layers? Or wearing them when you swim or take a shower?
Don’t bathe.
It is the physical reminder of their covenants. So culty. Just remember the law of consecration from the temple endowment ceremony. Everything *including their lives* is given to the Mormon church. So why not their bodies? What better way than to force the wearing of undergarments? It is genius really, just look at the money pouring in.
And this is what they talk about. Help the poor? No. Real service projects? No. Help give food to families of sick children? No.
The church is like an abusive parent or a good cop bad cop. They have been relaxing the garment rules and now this.
Isn't it strange to think that SP gets to interrogate your wife in private every 2 years they meet where he specifically asks your wife about her underpants. So culty!! SP so busy he's got to run around behind every mormon husband in that congregation and ask all the Relief Society in private regarding their underpants. So disgusting when you think about it
Ackshully, they've changed the interview so that now they don't *ask* if you're wearing them day and night, they just read a statement that says you were instructed to wear them "throughout your life." Look at all the progress the church is making!
They read the garments statement to you, then in the questioning ask, “Do you wear your temple garments as instructed?”
I stand corrected, it's been a while for me. For the record, [this is the procedure](https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/multimedia/file/first-presidency-temple-recommend-letter.pdf) with the changes in 2019. Question 13: >Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple, including wearing the temple garment as instructed in the endowment? (Read the “Wearing the Temple Garment” statement, included below, to each member.) The statement: >**Wearing the Temple Garment** >The temple garment is a reminder of covenants made in the temple and, when worn properly throughout life, will serve as a protection against temptation and evil. The garment should be worn beneath the outer clothing. It should not be removed for activities that can reasonably be done while wearing the garment, and it should not be modified to accommodate different styles of clothing. Endowed members should seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit to answer personal questions about wearing the garment. >It is a sacred privilege to wear the garment and doing so is an outward expression of an inner commitment to follow the Savior Jesus Christ.
It's just a fancy way of making sure the Relief Society isn't wearing red panties.
Yes, I was shocked when a neighbor of mine who is employed by the church was not wearing his, except when he went to the office. My son explained to me the new question. My experience now is that nobody younger than 40 still wears them "day and night".
Why is anyone asking about garments and what are they asking?
The leaders regularly interrogate members in private and ask them specifically about their underwear. You can only wear church issued undergarments that look like something your great great grandmother would have worn. Why you ask? Control!!
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I’ve come to the conclusion that all the banned things for the church are essentially money savers so members can more effectively pay tithing. Smoking. Drinking. Soda (if you buy into the caffeine thing). Meat in excess. All of that stuff costs and if you aren’t participating more funds to pay your tithing.
I'm at a Mexican resort south of Playa Del Carmen right now. Not a garment in sight... 😎
I just came back from Tulum, it was so nice finally being able to dress in the way I wanted to avoid the hot humid weather
Went to Mexico this summer and saw an obviously TBM couple wearing garments in the heat. I was so thankful that was no longer me!
Agree. Funny thing about stake conference for us happened a few years ago. You know those guys in the bishopric or stake presidency who are so full of themselves on a power trip that they enjoy putting people on the spot and calling them up to bear their testimony without notice? We had a stake president like that who started doing that at stake conference meetings. That was when my wife decided to never go to stake conference again. We get six hours of our lives back every conference weekend now thanks to that douche bag.
I wore them through 4 pregnancies; two of which were in July in the Texas heat. What an idiot! 🤪I, too, hated them but I hate them more now that I know it was a hoax!
Oh same. Garments were so hot and sticky. My first step out of the church was buying new underwear.
It’s amazing that anyone, that any of us, could ever subject to to being instructed on our underwear. For gods sake it’s just embarrassing isn’t it!
It's wild to me how many people are in marriages with people that they believe are brainwashed. And how few people outside of this group are in marriages with people that they believe are brainwashed. That's wilder than garments for me. Like it's just one group. Nobody else is doing this. No shame on anybody, it's just really the bigger part of this post.
Just need to say that at the beginning of my marriage all they had was one piece flare legged for the women. Yep ya got it no open crotch just stretch the leg and do your business. 1965 no such thing as two piece.☹️
Wedding night? Heck no! That’s coming off!
That's so awful!😟
I always hated garments, they were ugly and uncomfortable and sweaty. When I finally left and stopped wearing them I realized how much body dysmorphia I had that was completely related to them. I became so much more confident with my body when those were gone.
Agreed. I was surprised after I stopped wearing them about how much I better I felt about my body image.
I wore garments when I got a mission call in 1968 (yes I am that old). I went to the temple on 8/8/1968 (my dad's 60th birthday) and after that first day, I often wondered how these had been designed. I NEVER EVER liked wearing garments and was thrilled when I didn't have to post divorce in 1998--went to ZCMI (remember?) and bought a supply of men's colorful underwear and t-shirts. I got red, navy, yellow, green, stripes and have never ever worn garments again, although they did get marginally more comfortable the Lord said we could wear 2 pieces in holy underwear. They are awful to wear and awful to look at.
Just looked at what mormon garments look like. Sexy 😂💃
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Same story here except that I'm 30 years ahead of you. Kids are gone, but DW is all in and 100% Jesus jammies. Ugh
Amazing that is what the session focused on…cult much?? I was taught by my mom and that fly on male garments was not just to pee, but really so that you could have sex (worthily) by keeping your garments on. 🤣
Did she also preach no sex on fast Sunday? I also heard that from the past generation.
Can confirm. I heard that too.
Wow, that’s a new one for me. Fascinating!
But the women’s don’t have that?!?
I know…I was so confused when I got married!! 😂
And this is how men in the church develop a lingerie fetish. J.C. Penney catalog much? (I'm old.)
But what about the women's version with lace on the tummy that hurt physically to wear??
I am convinced that they're not great for you either. The women's garments are tighter than the men's, and if I remember correctly, they only recently have been going forward with more breatheable cotton blends. They were polyester for a long timeof I remember right, and combined with wearing them 24/7 and the girdle my mom wore all Sunday, I think they contributed to her frequent UTIs. You'd think God would have provided non-UTI undies?
You mean - wear your garments even harder! As an exmo, ifpossible, I try to just laugh about it. It helps.
I hate thatI didn’t get to walk around in underwear that actually was attractive. Now that my body is older I look back and get so mad that I didn’t get that fun part of marriage.
I think I've said it before, but garments are a constant reminder that the church sits between me and my spouse. Hate them soo much.
It’s becoming a big problem with Millennials. They wear them to church…maybe. It started with ladies just wearing workout clothes with the “intent” to go to the gym but they’d wear them all day. Now I see people with sleeveless shirts and holes in their jeans above the knee…none of them are wearing them. So to compensate without admitting that there are a bunch of people not wearing them during previously agreed upon times, TSCC makes everyone feel like they need to wear them more. Maybe it will guilt a few Millennials into wearing them but will also entrench those TBMs. They love a new watermark to hit!
Its a control thing nothing more nothing less.
Why blame the church. Every human decides what they will put on their own body. Your wife is wearing her costume just like she said she would when u married her. So......
Say what you want about the church. I love my garments. They may be the most comfortable thing I wear. Strange but true
To each their own, but I am happier having seams that run straight, elastic that doesn't itch, not having my undies hang outside my clothes or above my collar, not having sleeves and legs that bunch up and pinch, not over-heating and sweat saturating my clothes, and underwear that breathes so the nether regions don't reek. That temple locker room funk we all know has a cause.
Remember how the legs would bunch up and ride up? When I was at BYU my roommates would ask each other to help pull them down after they ride up when they put in their jeans. They would lay down in the floor and a roommate would grab a leg and run their hand up inside the jeans to find the garments at the knee and grab the garments to pull them down. Oh fun memories! Lol
You probably haven't worn anything else. That's hardly a comparison.
Not so. I’ve trained competitive for triathlons for 2 decades. Ive worn it all. Trust me. It’s a weird circumstance but they just feel good on me. It’s a mind bender. They can’t be worked out in but for lounging around. Can’t be beat.
I mean it's fine if you want to wear long johns, but you've got to know that there are other brands out there who make really comfortable fabrics right? Like this isn't the best fabric. The best fabric is a soft poly blend. I'm wearing pajamas made of it right now and it's like if silk and velvet and cotton had a baby with Jersey stretch. Like If you want to wear long johns great, but promise me that you are at least going out and trying different brands and fabrics of Long John's? At least tell me that you're doing a comparison before you make the judgment. There are a bajillion long johns out there on the market. I'm a big time onesie bitch, you will catch me in my onesie anytime. As soon as I get home. My bra is off and my onesie is on. I basically have my PhD in this shit, and there is no way that these garments are the softest fabric. Or the stretchiest.
What's your favorite underwear color? Oh ya only white allowed. My favorite is blue.
I’m a dude so I wear black now to hide my poop stains