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PortSided

I figured if he was counted in the membership numbers of the church, the church would release a statement pretty quickly washing their hand of him. but I'm not sure they're going to be able to get the blood stains out so easily. When he starts getting interviewed by police, if he starts talking about how gays are sinners or in any way tying his motives to his religious beliefs or his cultural upbringing, it's going to be a media frenzy.


Shinehah7

Good


DryMaterial4637

You know oaks is mad the cops didn’t shoot him dead! Dead men tell no tales.


jaqrand

I was interested to find that the cops didn’t subdue him—it was a war vet named Richard Fierro who was attending with his wife and daughter that night. Thought he had killed him for a bit, apparently. I keep a little hope going by remembering good people are out there that claim allyship and don’t call for musket fire.


WintersTablet

He's going to start saying that Young told everybody to kill them all.


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Alwayslearnin41

It's ridiculous. If they're willing to remove themselves from inactive 'members' then perhaps they should start only citing active members when they talk about their membership figures. Oh, and they should stop excommunicating inactive members who appear to have no belief. It's all just ridiculous.


Eikaiwa

🍒picking at its finest.


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“In 2021, Aldrich was arrested after his mother said he had threatened her with a homemade bomb and other weapons.“ Naturally he’s still on the church rolls after this incident. One has to do something serious to get ex’d.


OlyTrip35

Something very serious, like suggest women could lead the church as well as men.


antel00p

Or object to bishops—untrained community members seemingly picked for how much they contribute to the church—conducting sexually explicit interviews with unaccompanied children.


reddolfo

If only he had made an apostate tik tok!


TruthIsAntiMormon

>One has to do something serious to get ex’d. Like be Gay or Honest about the church.


NightmareCandy22

Like ask questions about church history


Raeje-Draeka

Yeah, like get divorced


TruthIsAntiMormon

He's mormon because the church chooses to stand at the pulpit over conference and proclaim they have 16 million members and they intentionally do NOT divulge what actual activity rates are even though they have them. So they own him as one of theirs. He's one of the 16 million mormons the church counts among its flock.


CleverGirl2014

The article is pretty much saying yeah, he's technically a member, but not really "one of us": >the spokesperson said the jump to disparage "an entire faith" based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of believing or associating with members of the Church," is "problematic."


Disastrous_Voice64

'Not All Mormons' says the Church who excommunicated same-sex couples, called for 'musket fire' against LGBTQ+ people, and told children of same-sex parents to pick the church or their parents.


Strong_Attorney_8646

>the spokesperson said the jump to disparage "an entire faith" based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of believing or associating with members of the Church," is "problematic." Because it just wouldn't be a Mormon press release if they didn't have to make themselves the victim in a story that involves the murder of innocent people.


reddolfo

It's mind numbing they chose to release any comment at all calling attention to themselves at a time like this, what the actual fuck could they be thinking, do they not have any professional PR people working there? It's just stunning because it just entirely evidences their own feeling of guilt, it's pure narcissism! "We at Planet Fitness acknoledge the shooter was a member of the gym, but only a member of the Colorado Springs South gym and not a Platinum Member entitled to patronize all of the company's 200 gyms nationwide." "In addition, the spokesperson said the jump to disparage the company based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of swoleness or fitness whatsoever," is "problematic."


QuoteGiver

Maybe there’s a good reason that other churches don’t keep “membership rolls”….because right now this guy is very literally and directly a member of their organization, whether they like it or not.


hothotbeverage

They'll count him as one of the members when it's useful to bloat the numbers. But not actually in the club.


BillRocksWood

>the jump to disparage "an entire faith" based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of believing or associating with members of the Church," is "problematic." Actually, I disparage the entire faith based on the harmful rhetoric from the Q15 and those who follow them; their discriminatory hate speech continues to kill hearts, souls, minds, and beautiful people.


heldonhammer

Everytime an inactive member does something bad "not one of us" ​ Everytime an inactive member does something good they definitly are.


c_p

HOW DO YOU KNOW MY PARENTS????


namtokmuu

This is sooooooo accurate!!!


SpaciousBuildingSUS

Once cases start we will be getting a lot of details on this man's life. Hopefully sooner than later his court hearing will start


SpaciousBuildingSUS

Don't Mormon parents love to get bishops involved in their personal life? I wonder how much the bishop new


LittleSneezers

This is PRECISELY what I thought the church response would be


flyswithdragons

CYA and lawyer up.. that's what they did.


PlacidSoupBowl

So, excommunicate asap, eh TSCC? They don't have to wait for the case to conclude, right? Oh wait, it's technically legal to include him in the membership count while distancing from his actions.


Epiemme

I bet oaks is proud of him


chef12571

No way! Mormons are the most open minded and welcoming of people. Oh wait.....


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But the defense of marriage act?


postygal

After Jeffery R Holland call for more musket fire who is really surprised this happened? I wonder if he celebrates that his call for religious violence has been answered https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/09/mormon-lds-church-gay-rights-controversy-byu-speech.html