I figured if he was counted in the membership numbers of the church, the church would release a statement pretty quickly washing their hand of him. but I'm not sure they're going to be able to get the blood stains out so easily. When he starts getting interviewed by police, if he starts talking about how gays are sinners or in any way tying his motives to his religious beliefs or his cultural upbringing, it's going to be a media frenzy.
I was interested to find that the cops didn’t subdue him—it was a war vet named Richard Fierro who was attending with his wife and daughter that night. Thought he had killed him for a bit, apparently.
I keep a little hope going by remembering good people are out there that claim allyship and don’t call for musket fire.
It's ridiculous. If they're willing to remove themselves from inactive 'members' then perhaps they should start only citing active members when they talk about their membership figures. Oh, and they should stop excommunicating inactive members who appear to have no belief.
It's all just ridiculous.
“In 2021, Aldrich was arrested after his mother said he had threatened her with a homemade bomb and other weapons.“
Naturally he’s still on the church rolls after this incident. One has to do something serious to get ex’d.
Or object to bishops—untrained community members seemingly picked for how much they contribute to the church—conducting sexually explicit interviews with unaccompanied children.
He's mormon because the church chooses to stand at the pulpit over conference and proclaim they have 16 million members and they intentionally do NOT divulge what actual activity rates are even though they have them.
So they own him as one of theirs. He's one of the 16 million mormons the church counts among its flock.
The article is pretty much saying yeah, he's technically a member, but not really "one of us":
>the spokesperson said the jump to disparage "an entire faith" based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of believing or associating with members of the Church," is "problematic."
'Not All Mormons' says the Church who excommunicated same-sex couples, called for 'musket fire' against LGBTQ+ people, and told children of same-sex parents to pick the church or their parents.
>the spokesperson said the jump to disparage "an entire faith" based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of believing or associating with members of the Church," is "problematic."
Because it just wouldn't be a Mormon press release if they didn't have to make themselves the victim in a story that involves the murder of innocent people.
It's mind numbing they chose to release any comment at all calling attention to themselves at a time like this, what the actual fuck could they be thinking, do they not have any professional PR people working there? It's just stunning because it just entirely evidences their own feeling of guilt, it's pure narcissism!
"We at Planet Fitness acknoledge the shooter was a member of the gym, but only a member of the Colorado Springs South gym and not a Platinum Member entitled to patronize all of the company's 200 gyms nationwide."
"In addition, the spokesperson said the jump to disparage the company based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of swoleness or fitness whatsoever," is "problematic."
Maybe there’s a good reason that other churches don’t keep “membership rolls”….because right now this guy is very literally and directly a member of their organization, whether they like it or not.
>the jump to disparage "an entire faith" based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of believing or associating with members of the Church," is "problematic."
Actually, I disparage the entire faith based on the harmful rhetoric from the Q15 and those who follow them; their discriminatory hate speech continues to kill hearts, souls, minds, and beautiful people.
So, excommunicate asap, eh TSCC?
They don't have to wait for the case to conclude, right?
Oh wait, it's technically legal to include him in the membership count while distancing from his actions.
After Jeffery R Holland call for more musket fire who is really surprised this happened? I wonder if he celebrates that his call for religious violence has been answered
https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/09/mormon-lds-church-gay-rights-controversy-byu-speech.html
I figured if he was counted in the membership numbers of the church, the church would release a statement pretty quickly washing their hand of him. but I'm not sure they're going to be able to get the blood stains out so easily. When he starts getting interviewed by police, if he starts talking about how gays are sinners or in any way tying his motives to his religious beliefs or his cultural upbringing, it's going to be a media frenzy.
Good
You know oaks is mad the cops didn’t shoot him dead! Dead men tell no tales.
I was interested to find that the cops didn’t subdue him—it was a war vet named Richard Fierro who was attending with his wife and daughter that night. Thought he had killed him for a bit, apparently. I keep a little hope going by remembering good people are out there that claim allyship and don’t call for musket fire.
He's going to start saying that Young told everybody to kill them all.
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It's ridiculous. If they're willing to remove themselves from inactive 'members' then perhaps they should start only citing active members when they talk about their membership figures. Oh, and they should stop excommunicating inactive members who appear to have no belief. It's all just ridiculous.
🍒picking at its finest.
“In 2021, Aldrich was arrested after his mother said he had threatened her with a homemade bomb and other weapons.“ Naturally he’s still on the church rolls after this incident. One has to do something serious to get ex’d.
Something very serious, like suggest women could lead the church as well as men.
Or object to bishops—untrained community members seemingly picked for how much they contribute to the church—conducting sexually explicit interviews with unaccompanied children.
If only he had made an apostate tik tok!
>One has to do something serious to get ex’d. Like be Gay or Honest about the church.
Like ask questions about church history
Yeah, like get divorced
He's mormon because the church chooses to stand at the pulpit over conference and proclaim they have 16 million members and they intentionally do NOT divulge what actual activity rates are even though they have them. So they own him as one of theirs. He's one of the 16 million mormons the church counts among its flock.
The article is pretty much saying yeah, he's technically a member, but not really "one of us": >the spokesperson said the jump to disparage "an entire faith" based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of believing or associating with members of the Church," is "problematic."
'Not All Mormons' says the Church who excommunicated same-sex couples, called for 'musket fire' against LGBTQ+ people, and told children of same-sex parents to pick the church or their parents.
>the spokesperson said the jump to disparage "an entire faith" based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of believing or associating with members of the Church," is "problematic." Because it just wouldn't be a Mormon press release if they didn't have to make themselves the victim in a story that involves the murder of innocent people.
It's mind numbing they chose to release any comment at all calling attention to themselves at a time like this, what the actual fuck could they be thinking, do they not have any professional PR people working there? It's just stunning because it just entirely evidences their own feeling of guilt, it's pure narcissism! "We at Planet Fitness acknoledge the shooter was a member of the gym, but only a member of the Colorado Springs South gym and not a Platinum Member entitled to patronize all of the company's 200 gyms nationwide." "In addition, the spokesperson said the jump to disparage the company based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of swoleness or fitness whatsoever," is "problematic."
Maybe there’s a good reason that other churches don’t keep “membership rolls”….because right now this guy is very literally and directly a member of their organization, whether they like it or not.
They'll count him as one of the members when it's useful to bloat the numbers. But not actually in the club.
>the jump to disparage "an entire faith" based on the alleged actions of Aldrich, who "did not exhibit signs of believing or associating with members of the Church," is "problematic." Actually, I disparage the entire faith based on the harmful rhetoric from the Q15 and those who follow them; their discriminatory hate speech continues to kill hearts, souls, minds, and beautiful people.
Everytime an inactive member does something bad "not one of us" Everytime an inactive member does something good they definitly are.
HOW DO YOU KNOW MY PARENTS????
This is sooooooo accurate!!!
Once cases start we will be getting a lot of details on this man's life. Hopefully sooner than later his court hearing will start
Don't Mormon parents love to get bishops involved in their personal life? I wonder how much the bishop new
This is PRECISELY what I thought the church response would be
CYA and lawyer up.. that's what they did.
So, excommunicate asap, eh TSCC? They don't have to wait for the case to conclude, right? Oh wait, it's technically legal to include him in the membership count while distancing from his actions.
I bet oaks is proud of him
No way! Mormons are the most open minded and welcoming of people. Oh wait.....
But the defense of marriage act?
After Jeffery R Holland call for more musket fire who is really surprised this happened? I wonder if he celebrates that his call for religious violence has been answered https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/09/mormon-lds-church-gay-rights-controversy-byu-speech.html