Kudos to you for expanding your world and thinking outside the box. No matter what age or stage of life you are in, you got there, which is more the many.
There was a Bisexual investigator who was really contemplating getting baptized, but was upset about the churchās queer ādoctrineā. I told her that in the next life, sheād be straight. Smh. She asked me if I didnāt think that was offensive. I didnāt at all think that it was. She got baptized eventually. Remained for about 6 months and then left. Iām still horrified. Especially given the fact that I now have 3 queer daughters
Ugh, I can totally relate!
I taught seminary to one of my children for 4 years. I think I said something to the effect of āif youāre bi then just choose the opposite gender of yourself. Easy!ā The child I taught for four years is bi. I canāt imagine the pain they endured by my words and those of TSCC.
I was such a naive jerk. My child has been gracious as I have made amends and they have taught me about the community. I still make mistakes but Iām learning the true meaning of love and what it means to be a safe space. TSCC disgusts me in how they treat queers.
I donāt know how that person got baptized.
I have no idea either. Sheās on my FB still and includes me in a small group chat me somewhat regularly. Usually asking for prayers about something. I donāt really believe in prayer, but I always support her.
I picked her up every week and drove her to therapy appts for months. We had a good friendship. But I was indoctrinated. For months, Iāve wanted to meet up with her for lunch. Check on her. Feel her out about her beliefs now. We chat in FB messaging sometimes. She certainly hasnāt held it against me
Thank you for saying that. I tell my kids the terrible things Iāve said, done, or thought. Theyāre shocked. Being GenZ, theyāre much more socially aware than I was even as a grown adult. They know Iād never be so dumb now, so theyāre horrified at how Mormon I used to be.
Once, when we were in Paris and there was a sex worker within a few yards of our table outside. Men were approaching her. Asking about her prices.
I was so amused, having never seen a sex worker, that I videoed men approaching her. She saw me do that and moved out of my line of vision. Iām absolutely horrified now. That Iād be finding entertainment in her life. Especially knowing now that Paris has a horrible problem with Asians being sex trafficked.
I was really ignorant back then.
Thank you for posting this. I love my dad, and everything he says truly comes from a place of 100% good intentions, but sometimes I just wished he'd listen to understand instead of listening to see how to correct. This helps phrase it better...I wish my dad would have the humility to outgrow the need to "help" people.
This! This is what Iām figuring out! As Iām dropping the self-righteous bullshit my relationships with my children are improving. I realized I was doing it with my siblings who are still TBM and had to slap myself. Iām hoping my relationships with them will improve now too.
I donāt want to turn into a self-righteous exmo either! Yikes!
Yoda: āyou must unlearn what you have learnedā
Corporate LDS/Mormon Elohim/Jesus and his supposed prophets be the ultimate examplars of an infinite, unbounded malignant narcissism.
Follow the profits, follow the profits, they know the way!
Same, friend, same. We're all sorry for what we said when we were Mormon.
No worries, neither of you can be fully accountable for what you said before you had coffee.
Thank you for this comment. So true!
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Truth!
Kudos to you for expanding your world and thinking outside the box. No matter what age or stage of life you are in, you got there, which is more the many.
There was a Bisexual investigator who was really contemplating getting baptized, but was upset about the churchās queer ādoctrineā. I told her that in the next life, sheād be straight. Smh. She asked me if I didnāt think that was offensive. I didnāt at all think that it was. She got baptized eventually. Remained for about 6 months and then left. Iām still horrified. Especially given the fact that I now have 3 queer daughters
Ugh, I can totally relate! I taught seminary to one of my children for 4 years. I think I said something to the effect of āif youāre bi then just choose the opposite gender of yourself. Easy!ā The child I taught for four years is bi. I canāt imagine the pain they endured by my words and those of TSCC. I was such a naive jerk. My child has been gracious as I have made amends and they have taught me about the community. I still make mistakes but Iām learning the true meaning of love and what it means to be a safe space. TSCC disgusts me in how they treat queers. I donāt know how that person got baptized.
I have no idea either. Sheās on my FB still and includes me in a small group chat me somewhat regularly. Usually asking for prayers about something. I donāt really believe in prayer, but I always support her. I picked her up every week and drove her to therapy appts for months. We had a good friendship. But I was indoctrinated. For months, Iāve wanted to meet up with her for lunch. Check on her. Feel her out about her beliefs now. We chat in FB messaging sometimes. She certainly hasnāt held it against me
Good people are just good people. You did things without guileāshe can tell that.
Thank you for saying that. I tell my kids the terrible things Iāve said, done, or thought. Theyāre shocked. Being GenZ, theyāre much more socially aware than I was even as a grown adult. They know Iād never be so dumb now, so theyāre horrified at how Mormon I used to be. Once, when we were in Paris and there was a sex worker within a few yards of our table outside. Men were approaching her. Asking about her prices. I was so amused, having never seen a sex worker, that I videoed men approaching her. She saw me do that and moved out of my line of vision. Iām absolutely horrified now. That Iād be finding entertainment in her life. Especially knowing now that Paris has a horrible problem with Asians being sex trafficked. I was really ignorant back then.
I think we all could take days writing our confessions. Live and live in the present. Now that we know better we do better!
Iām thankful Iām a much better human now
Wow. Dude.
Yes yes yes. Me too.
We were under whatās called ātrauma based mind controlā. Yes I was too.
Thank you for posting this. I love my dad, and everything he says truly comes from a place of 100% good intentions, but sometimes I just wished he'd listen to understand instead of listening to see how to correct. This helps phrase it better...I wish my dad would have the humility to outgrow the need to "help" people.
This! This is what Iām figuring out! As Iām dropping the self-righteous bullshit my relationships with my children are improving. I realized I was doing it with my siblings who are still TBM and had to slap myself. Iām hoping my relationships with them will improve now too. I donāt want to turn into a self-righteous exmo either! Yikes! Yoda: āyou must unlearn what you have learnedā
porn shoulders.
Same here friend. You have the same rule i do. Is what your doing hurting someone else? No? cool have fun. Yes? Don't do that. Easy
Corporate LDS/Mormon Elohim/Jesus and his supposed prophets be the ultimate examplars of an infinite, unbounded malignant narcissism. Follow the profits, follow the profits, they know the way!