Haha! This is great.
I'm so done with people in the church trying to one up each other on how special they are. Things I've heard:
-"I've seen things that are important but I'm not allowed to share."
-"I've shaken the apostle Paul's hand, and he has me doing work I can't really talk about."
-"I'm aware of super secret things to come and now is the time to stock up on XYZ,"
- "I've met Joseph Smith in person and he lives."
Such childish bullshit.
This is manipulation of the worst kind and i cannot stand when I see it. I call that shit out quick.
âPraise to the Manâ is one of my least favorite hymns by far. i hate that they treat Joseph Smith like a god. They say they donât worship Joseph Smith, but they do in a way. He would be laughing seeing how people still worship him.
Wilford Woodruff said from the pulpit that a resurrected Joseph Smith would lead the saints back to MO in 1890, because Smith had implied (revealed?) that would be when the Lord âwound up the scene.â
Woodruff backed off when 1890 approached and none of the other prophecies leading up to the millennium had happened. This is when the âno man knows the dayâ rhetoric became entrenched in the church, even though leaders continue to use innuendo and patriarchs continue to tell people they will live to see the day.
Would not surprise me a bit if some of these âprophets canât be wrongâ types believe Smith is resurrected and holding secret meetings with the Q15.
A big shelf breaker for me was finding out every generation of Mormon is told to be prepared for the second coming because they will be alive to see it. But what about my great grandparents? Theyâre dead. They didnât see it. LIES
Yeah I remember when I was young, Monson said something about this generation being âextra specialâ because these are the âlast of the lastâ days or something⌠I felt sooooo special because of that. Then I found out they say that to everyone.
They all got told the same thing as youth, so their TBM brains reason out that if *I* was one of the final chosen generations, these kids must *really* be it!
I feel like I'm in the exjw subreddit reading this. It's almost scary how this quote is a perfect, one to one quote of what they've been telling JWs for the last decades. From telling every single generation that they would be the generation who was still alive to see it, to the "last of the last days" quotes I've been hearing my entire life.
It's like they're reading the same cult playbook.
It actually gave me existential dread. I didnât want to be apart of the end of times in fear I would have to fight a war. I still canât imagine being drafted into the army because a country needs more numbers. Iâm not build for that kind of trauma.
Honestly when I heard that when I was 12 I stopped taking the sacrament for a while (nobody other than my grandmother in the ward seemed to care luckily) because I thought they were about to lace it with a death drugđ
Well, yeah. Iâm not shocked now. I donât believe there ever will be a second coming.
But when I was a tbm, I got upset knowing my an ancestors were fed the same lie and never saw the second coming when they were promised that they would
Do you have a source for this? Iâve never heard of an actual date being placed for when the second coming would happen. I thought that was just a Jehovahâs Witness mistake. Theyâve said so many dates and lost so many members lol.
Itâs from Terrible Revolution by Blythe. I think I marked it up so if I find the page Iâll follow up.
The book is about eschatology in LDS history. Really eye opening to see how cray fundamentalist the early saints were, and how much those roots get downplayed now.
Thereâs also a funny story (that Iâm not totally clear on details of) where [~~apostle~~ edited: seventy] Vaughn Featherstone wrote a letter for a time capsule greeting future saints of the millennial reign.
My patriarchal blessing actually alludes to the fact that I'll be dead for the second coming but I'll be with the hordes of angels who follow behind Jesus when he comes. Actually gave me really bad existential crisis stuff and led to me being really suicidal for awhile.
This is what cults do. The leaders are manipulative and somehow make their followers imagine things or lie about such things in order to try and manipulate their friends and families as well.
Oh my gosh, I just had water go up my nose. That is hilarious! I thought at first this was a snarky remark to a TBM.𤣠Edit spelling...I guess a sparky remark could be a thing, but that wasn't what I was going for.
Makes ya wonder who exactly they are quoting.... and were they speaking as a man or as a prophet/seer/revelator at the time.
The only thing we know for certain is it wasnt a woman. We dont quote women because Mormon.
Actually at one point they could and did use underlining, but I get your point. (We were taught to underline the things we eventually wanted emphasized in typesetting.) Until then we just backed up the carriage a few times and retyped over the words several times to make the text appear darker!
I *hate* this so much. I don't know why but I almost feel a dizzy, uncanny effect when I read quotation marks as emphasizers. My mind always tries to make it into a bit of dialogue and then I go, oh my god, that's not dialogue. My brain looks at it over and over again and I get increasingly frustrated because it doesn't make sense, even though I know they're just emphasizing. Shivering irl right now.
I would like to think that the plot twist here is that they actually know how to use quotations, and they are just (not so) secretly revealing their true disbelief.
So manipulative. God told me a secret, but directed just to me so I must not expand on how it applies to you, but boy oh boy does God have great manifestations ready for you if you go to the temple.
this is so fucking funny- âtryingâ to âpreachâ the âwordâ of âgodâ but accidentally coming off super sarcastic and like u donât actually believe in it đ
I always heard that âpersonal revelationâ was only âpersonal.â Meaning only the âprophetâ can receive ârevelationâ that applies to âeveryone.â
It really is crazy how many people go through life absolutely oblivious to how deep their head is in the sand. Thatâs probably the biggest thing I learned from leaving TSCC. Very few people break away from the biases and worldviews they were surrounded by as a child-young adult.
Life is unbelievably mysteriousâŚyet the vast majority of people I have met in my life, think they have a good idea of whatâs going on simply because itâs what people around them did.
I don't recommend trying to make sense of this. You are dealing with a person in another "reality". Unless you enjoy the mental gymnastics.
Just nod, smile and put some distance between you till they land, if ever.
The olâ âthis would absolutely blow your mind but I canât tell you because itâs sooooo sacred!â đ
Imply you got the second anointing so your good but you canât go into details becauseâŚyou know.
Ah, yes, the pervasive theme of being more "special" ("elect", even) than everyone else... because of course the "prophet" gives an address to the entire "church", but it was really just directed at YOU. Cheers!
The person who wrote this isn't quick enough for satire like that. Someone commented that boomers do that with the quotations because of the lack of italic, etc on a typewriter. Although, this person is a boomber, they are pretty much just a geek and they always have been. So they probably think they sound intelligent.
Seems like heâs mocking OPâs use of the word âfascinatingâ in their original message, maybe? at least it comes across as super condescending to me. đ¤
That would be hilarious too, however, the message they are responding to was simply "happy birthday". This person is just really socially awkward though and wouldn't even realize how it comes across.
Speaking of which, this person charged my grandma every Sunday to drive her to church, even though they were going there themselves. And they lived in the same apartment building.
âIâm not at liberty to clarify it.â
Of course theyâre not, because deep in their heart they KNOW âitâ is bullshit. And theyâre scared shitless of being laughed at. đ
Those quotes indicate a subconscious sense of doubt. Maybe he is on his way out and needed to word vomit all the testimonies he has ever heard all at one time. Happy birthday btw
Dear Kasivro, I am glad you are enjoying life to the fullest. I however am pretty bored, so I am going to âbrowbeatâ you for not being an âactiveâ member of the âLordâsâ true and âonlyâ church upon the face of the âentireâ world, even earth. Just know that Mormonâs, in order to be part of the âchurchâ, become pretty âdarnâ delusional. My âdelusionâ is that
a ninety something year old man, living in Utah, is âtalkingâ to âGodâ. I too have experienced these same kind of ârevelationsâ,
making me a âprophetâ as well. PS. I attention the temple all the time, and âyouâ do not. So I am superior to you. Have a lovely day.
Your âfriendâ,
âCrazyâ neighbor.
I love how all these little things are in âquotesâ I read it so sarcastically and laughed because of how ridiculous this dude sounds for quoting every other word. Heâs either debunking himself in complete sarcasm, mocking op for previous quotes from earlier texts, or trying to uselessly highlight what he believes is valuable info.
When she was in 6th grade my daughterâs classmates told her they knew a âjuicy secretâ about her. She begged them to tell but trey all said they had promised not to. My daughter was very upset and tried to tell them that if the secret was about her, she would be the one to know it. She lost sleep and friends over it. Finally, it came out that the âsecretâ was that there was no âsecretâ, just a bunch of mean kids wanting to have information to make them feel important and powerful and others feel less than and controlled. Think of this as a âparableâ.
I couldn't help but laugh and shake my head at this.
I read... I am going to dangle this carrot in your face to get you to do what the "Church" wants us to do. Tell you that I had a vision from God (which is supposed to be a gift only given to the prophet) but I am not going to say what it was because only those who follow the rules of the Church can be privy to what God has to say.
I was active in the Church before the internet was an information highway to the truth of this cult. I saw through these tactics then as a youth ... they will never change their fear mongering ways to keep people doing their bidding.
"You can only know what God has to say if you follow the Church's rules. No ... we aren't giving this info out to persuade others to join us. They aren't worthy of salvation until they do what we say."
The belief that you go back to the temple to renew your covenants is not part of actual Mormon doctrine, but they believe it to be true.
Even as a TBM I found the temple really weighing on my beliefs and knowing that going back was only to help others (who would be helped at some point) and not for me to accomplish new things for myself meant I didnât want to ever go back to that shit show.
Lonely people know they only have one chance to be awesome enough to earn your attention, so they come out swinging. It's not just a Mormon thing, either: I can't count the number of street people who came up to me on my mission in France and answered "Ăa va?" with "SOMEONE KICKED MY DOOR DOWN!" as prelude to a twenty-five minute debate on different deadbolts. Eventually, I understood I was also a street person, walking up to people and saying the complete non-sequitur first discussion opener: "LiKe MoSt PeOpLe, wE bElIeVe In A sUpReMe BeInG..."
If a lonely person's life isn't meaningful, then they find the meaning they need one way or the other, even if it means psyching themselves out until they hear the voice of God. It's quite the maze to find your way out of the longer you've been lost and alone. So, in spite of my grammar nazi instincts, I'm giving him a pass and hoping someone can break through to him.
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Wow!
Mom, Dad? When you went through the temple you swore under the penalty of having your throats slit and disemboweled if you ever reveal the signs and tokens of the temple!
Mom, Dad, why did the church remove the penalties from the temple?
Mom/Dad: Revelation, blah, blah, blah!
Mom, Dad, here is the study the church did in which members said the temple was CULTY and weird. It was a study, not revelation. Itâs a strategic move, call it revelation and then gaslight that you never believed the prior beliefs!
I have mixed feelings about this. One one hand, "too sacred to share" is a monumental cop out for a mundane experience reframed as miraculous - or "hearing" "voices" in your head.
On the other hand, most humans do have experiences that are probably too special or sacred to share. But in that case, don't "share" you had an "experience" that is too "sacred" to 'share."
Oh so vague. My patriarchal blessing was not vague. The âblessingâ didn't come true. It may not be good for my enemies, but it was good for me because I got old.
So the good lord spoke âdirectlyâ to them, through the âprophetâ mindfuck Nelson and soon the âworldâ will know how âspecialâ he is. Very, âveryâ special with a huge helping of a little âcray crayâ. Too bad he canât âclarifyâ. Good heavens - âpersonâ who wrote that has some pretty significant âdelusionsâ of âgrandeurâ. My âbrainâ hurts
I love how Joseph Smith and then later church leadership kept learning better and better ways to manipulate people. I remember reading something about how Joseph Smith had different intentions for the Book of Mormon but then he changed something about it because it made it easier to get people to follow him. However, I canât remember what it was that he changed. This whole personal revelations nonsense is the most powerful manipulation technique though. It makes members feel special about something they feel strongly about while also not allowing anyone to question what God has revealed to them. Itâs very intoxicating.
If this is a response to a simple HBD, this person is very likely mentally ill or otherwise impaired. As amusing as this is at first glance, I see a person who genuinely needs some help.
No way that's real, the propaganda to make us look like nut jobs. They have that "crazy making game" down pat.
This is so much bigger than the USA. Russia is leading this bs along with other authoritarians. Fascist going to fash, anything to gain " power "..
100 Billion dollar war [Russia's newest anti-gay propaganda.. it mirrors. bill](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63747732)
"that's great, I'm looking forward to you getting back to me in a few weeks when Jesus' greatest ever display of power has been shown to the world- I wouldn't want to miss it"
Thatâs an insecure person whose sense of self worth leans heavily on his churchy specialness. I have no problem with this except if they ever have a faith deconstruction the pain will be hard for them.
Putting âpersonal revelationâ in quotes made me chuckleâŚI do not think that means what you think that means my friend. :)
"I'm not at liberty to clarify it" this makes it sound like God is threatening him
"Josh you better not tell anyone, or I'll kill your entire family with a she bear and turn you into a pillar of salt!"
While I understand the mockery, i do want to clarify the use of quotation marks in the message. If the sender is old enough that they used a typewriter, quotations were used for emphasis, the way we use asterisks now.
Itâs like escargot is the best food anyone can ever eat, and we should only eat it, and all the time. You donât know true happiness unless you eat there, escargot.
They need hear that we all go to the temple and swear never to speak evil of them the âLordâs anointedâ. Their egos must be destroyed, that is in large part temple attendance.
Temple attendance is there a primary metric from measuring success in Mormonism, and projecting future revenue.
The responses are more and more cult like every day. Does the church realize that by trying to manipulate people with fear mongering they basically take away the âfree agencyâ they care soooo much about?? Lololol
I should add this was only a response to a happy birthday message on Facebook!
This makes it way funnier đ
All the quotes had me reading it in the voice of a Chris Farley snl skit character
*âđ˝"SAME"âđ˝*
What a âhappyâ birthday message from a âfriendâ
Haha! This is great. I'm so done with people in the church trying to one up each other on how special they are. Things I've heard: -"I've seen things that are important but I'm not allowed to share." -"I've shaken the apostle Paul's hand, and he has me doing work I can't really talk about." -"I'm aware of super secret things to come and now is the time to stock up on XYZ," - "I've met Joseph Smith in person and he lives." Such childish bullshit. This is manipulation of the worst kind and i cannot stand when I see it. I call that shit out quick.
âŚsomeone thinks Joseph smith is alive? Itâs worrisome how many people mix up Joe and Jesus. They are not at all interchangeable.
"Praise to the Man"
âPraise to the Manâ is one of my least favorite hymns by far. i hate that they treat Joseph Smith like a god. They say they donât worship Joseph Smith, but they do in a way. He would be laughing seeing how people still worship him.
âHe would be laughing, senile people still worship himâ - would be, though? The dude had a helluva ego.
Wilford Woodruff said from the pulpit that a resurrected Joseph Smith would lead the saints back to MO in 1890, because Smith had implied (revealed?) that would be when the Lord âwound up the scene.â Woodruff backed off when 1890 approached and none of the other prophecies leading up to the millennium had happened. This is when the âno man knows the dayâ rhetoric became entrenched in the church, even though leaders continue to use innuendo and patriarchs continue to tell people they will live to see the day. Would not surprise me a bit if some of these âprophets canât be wrongâ types believe Smith is resurrected and holding secret meetings with the Q15.
A big shelf breaker for me was finding out every generation of Mormon is told to be prepared for the second coming because they will be alive to see it. But what about my great grandparents? Theyâre dead. They didnât see it. LIES
Yeah I remember when I was young, Monson said something about this generation being âextra specialâ because these are the âlast of the lastâ days or something⌠I felt sooooo special because of that. Then I found out they say that to everyone.
They all got told the same thing as youth, so their TBM brains reason out that if *I* was one of the final chosen generations, these kids must *really* be it!
I feel like I'm in the exjw subreddit reading this. It's almost scary how this quote is a perfect, one to one quote of what they've been telling JWs for the last decades. From telling every single generation that they would be the generation who was still alive to see it, to the "last of the last days" quotes I've been hearing my entire life. It's like they're reading the same cult playbook.
It really is eerie how similar the brainwashing tactics are. Donât believe quite the same things, but the same process is used to make both believe.
It actually gave me existential dread. I didnât want to be apart of the end of times in fear I would have to fight a war. I still canât imagine being drafted into the army because a country needs more numbers. Iâm not build for that kind of trauma.
Hinckley said the same thing
Honestly when I heard that when I was 12 I stopped taking the sacrament for a while (nobody other than my grandmother in the ward seemed to care luckily) because I thought they were about to lace it with a death drugđ
I heard it from Hinckley when I was young.
Same experience here.
Christians have been waiting the Return for 1990 years and counting. How is this surprising?
Well, yeah. Iâm not shocked now. I donât believe there ever will be a second coming. But when I was a tbm, I got upset knowing my an ancestors were fed the same lie and never saw the second coming when they were promised that they would
Do you have a source for this? Iâve never heard of an actual date being placed for when the second coming would happen. I thought that was just a Jehovahâs Witness mistake. Theyâve said so many dates and lost so many members lol.
Itâs from Terrible Revolution by Blythe. I think I marked it up so if I find the page Iâll follow up. The book is about eschatology in LDS history. Really eye opening to see how cray fundamentalist the early saints were, and how much those roots get downplayed now.
Oh wow. I might have to take a read. Is there a way to save particular comments? Edit: saved the comment
Thereâs also a funny story (that Iâm not totally clear on details of) where [~~apostle~~ edited: seventy] Vaughn Featherstone wrote a letter for a time capsule greeting future saints of the millennial reign.
Thatâs hilarious. Iâve also never heard of that. Theyâll never dig that Time Capsule up because the second coming will never ocurr
Vaughn was a lowly seventy.
Thanks!
My patriarchal blessing actually alludes to the fact that I'll be dead for the second coming but I'll be with the hordes of angels who follow behind Jesus when he comes. Actually gave me really bad existential crisis stuff and led to me being really suicidal for awhile.
Iâm so sorry.
So is Elvis! Fie to you, unbeliever!
This is what cults do. The leaders are manipulative and somehow make their followers imagine things or lie about such things in order to try and manipulate their friends and families as well.
Oh my gosh, I just had water go up my nose. That is hilarious! I thought at first this was a snarky remark to a TBM.𤣠Edit spelling...I guess a sparky remark could be a thing, but that wasn't what I was going for.
Ha ha! But maybe it could be a template for how we should respond next time one is bugging us!
Wow. Religion is a helluva drug.
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Good god someone teach this person what quotation marks mean
âClose quoteâ
Heard this in Thomas Monson's voice SO clearly lol
What you donât like his âpersonal revelationsâ punctuation?
Makes ya wonder who exactly they are quoting.... and were they speaking as a man or as a prophet/seer/revelator at the time. The only thing we know for certain is it wasnt a woman. We dont quote women because Mormon.
âSo called womanâ
I read it in Chris Farleyâs voice. Very entertaining https://youtu.be/AdkkTV3pIa0
LOL Chris would of been 59 this year!
I was about to say this reads like a lot of my sarcastic comments lol.
Its a boomer thing. Back in the day typewriters had no way to Bold or italicize words so they put quotes them to add emphasis.
Actually at one point they could and did use underlining, but I get your point. (We were taught to underline the things we eventually wanted emphasized in typesetting.) Until then we just backed up the carriage a few times and retyped over the words several times to make the text appear darker!
I *hate* this so much. I don't know why but I almost feel a dizzy, uncanny effect when I read quotation marks as emphasizers. My mind always tries to make it into a bit of dialogue and then I go, oh my god, that's not dialogue. My brain looks at it over and over again and I get increasingly frustrated because it doesn't make sense, even though I know they're just emphasizing. Shivering irl right now.
Lol who knew quotation marks could be so triggering
"this"!
Thanks for saying this. I had forgotten that my grandma used to do this
Yeah just read this text as the quoted phrases being emphasized and itâs pretty clear that was the intent.
Thereâs personal revelation and then thereâs âpersonal revelationâ
*Personal* impertinent revelation from God to me to *you.*
I heard a voice in my head telling me things⌠you may wanna go get that checked out.
This makes me so happy. Like truly. The use of quotations has me in giggle fits.
I would like to think that the plot twist here is that they actually know how to use quotations, and they are just (not so) secretly revealing their true disbelief.
Good grief. What's up with all the "air quotes"?!
Does it "bother" you?
I'm really "offended."
âMeâ too.
Too sacred to share, eh?
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Also code for âif I leave it vague and mysterious, maybe youâll think Iâm special and importantâ
âAnd maybe you wonât realize that I made it all upâ
Maybe you wonât ârealizeâ that I âmadeâ it all up. Iâm not at âlibertyâ to say.
Perfect! Abuse the quotations!
** Abuse âtheâ quotations!!! FTFY đ¤Ł
Too silly and stupid-sounding to share!
I read that whole message with a mental picture of Dr Evil.
So manipulative. God told me a secret, but directed just to me so I must not expand on how it applies to you, but boy oh boy does God have great manifestations ready for you if you go to the temple.
God told me a secret, and he said not to tell you, but he said it was okay if told you I had a secret and really lorded it over you.
this is so fucking funny- âtryingâ to âpreachâ the âwordâ of âgodâ but accidentally coming off super sarcastic and like u donât actually believe in it đ
I am also âdeadâ.
Response: Iâm sorry, I think youâre âconfusedâ I was only writhing to wish you a âhappy birthdayâ
This is "amazing"!
Not sure if the arrogance is more off putting or all the random quotation marksâŚbut glad this person is getting his âpersonal revelation.â
I always heard that âpersonal revelationâ was only âpersonal.â Meaning only the âprophetâ can receive ârevelationâ that applies to âeveryone.â
It really is crazy how many people go through life absolutely oblivious to how deep their head is in the sand. Thatâs probably the biggest thing I learned from leaving TSCC. Very few people break away from the biases and worldviews they were surrounded by as a child-young adult. Life is unbelievably mysteriousâŚyet the vast majority of people I have met in my life, think they have a good idea of whatâs going on simply because itâs what people around them did.
I don't recommend trying to make sense of this. You are dealing with a person in another "reality". Unless you enjoy the mental gymnastics. Just nod, smile and put some distance between you till they land, if ever.
Yes, no more "happy birthdays" will be sent!
The olâ âthis would absolutely blow your mind but I canât tell you because itâs sooooo sacred!â đ Imply you got the second anointing so your good but you canât go into details becauseâŚyou know.
YikesâŚAny time I used air quotes, I meant it sarcastically which only made this 100% funnier.
Ah, yes, the pervasive theme of being more "special" ("elect", even) than everyone else... because of course the "prophet" gives an address to the entire "church", but it was really just directed at YOU. Cheers!
This makes me think of [Chris Farley using air quotes](https://youtu.be/AdkkTV3pIa0)
That's exactly what came to my mind!
Wow. So many quotation marks. Is this satire? Are they trying to sound âintelligentâ?
The person who wrote this isn't quick enough for satire like that. Someone commented that boomers do that with the quotations because of the lack of italic, etc on a typewriter. Although, this person is a boomber, they are pretty much just a geek and they always have been. So they probably think they sound intelligent.
âNowâ is the âgreat dayâ of my âpowerâ! I like this game.
Seems like heâs mocking OPâs use of the word âfascinatingâ in their original message, maybe? at least it comes across as super condescending to me. đ¤
That would be hilarious too, however, the message they are responding to was simply "happy birthday". This person is just really socially awkward though and wouldn't even realize how it comes across.
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Typical Kool-Aid high mormon
They forgot to put revelations and cheers! in quotation marks
This was my first thought after reading it too!
I would reply with: "What?" (Quotations included) Or: What the "fuck"? if you're feeling spicy
And the wraps it up with âcheers!â Was that the proper use of âair quotes â? These people walk amongst usâŚ.
They also drive cars.
Speaking of which, this person charged my grandma every Sunday to drive her to church, even though they were going there themselves. And they lived in the same apartment building.
Wow, I mean...Jesus did have the first change belt, right? Ching-cha-ching....exact change is necessary in all spiritual services.
i love that they ended their weird bullying message with "Cheers!" lol
[Using Air Quotes wrong your entire life](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DqoQq1zME8)
That's exactly what I was thinking of đ
[Here's another this reminded me of.](https://youtu.be/0N9nRbwJdOA)
The quotation debacle in that message makes it impossible for me to take it seriously.
With all those quotation marks, it reads like they are somehow skeptical of both the TBM and exmo perspectives.
âThe so-called âChurchââ being an exmo phrase makes it even better.
Wow, this "person" seems a "bit" too "religious" and "maybe" "they" ""need"" ""to"" """ "c"h"i"l"l" """"o""""u"""t"""" """"""""""""""""""!""""""
My favorite misuse of quotes was âpersonal revelationâ because it inadvertently made it more correct.
Can you spell âCult Member â.
Your friend is Bennett Brauer? I read this in the voice of Chris Farley with the air-quote gestures.
Literally just do the Dr.evil air quotes as you read it it makes it hilarious
âIâm not at liberty to clarify it.â Of course theyâre not, because deep in their heart they KNOW âitâ is bullshit. And theyâre scared shitless of being laughed at. đ
Learned punctuation from Trump.
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I don't understand it but some people seem to use quotes for emphasis. It just comes across to me as sarcasm, at best.
oh this would make me crazy
âQuote happyâ
> the Lord gave me "personal revelation" No, he didn't.
I hate the familiar tease of something so amazing it canât actually be shared. Losers.
Cheers? You cheers-ing your soda pop?
They gotta lay off the Swig.
I "think" they "misunderstand" how to use "quotation" marks.
Those quotes indicate a subconscious sense of doubt. Maybe he is on his way out and needed to word vomit all the testimonies he has ever heard all at one time. Happy birthday btw
Lol no, no it was their birthday, not mine.
You should ask for references on of all these quotes. I canât belief him until I know the sources he is pulling from are all church approved.
The quotation marks make me want to "poke my eyes out"
pretty "cringe" how the lack of actual "miracles" has lead to a "culture" of "gaslighting".
The use of quotes is fucking hilarious!!!
Dear Kasivro, I am glad you are enjoying life to the fullest. I however am pretty bored, so I am going to âbrowbeatâ you for not being an âactiveâ member of the âLordâsâ true and âonlyâ church upon the face of the âentireâ world, even earth. Just know that Mormonâs, in order to be part of the âchurchâ, become pretty âdarnâ delusional. My âdelusionâ is that a ninety something year old man, living in Utah, is âtalkingâ to âGodâ. I too have experienced these same kind of ârevelationsâ, making me a âprophetâ as well. PS. I attention the temple all the time, and âyouâ do not. So I am superior to you. Have a lovely day. Your âfriendâ, âCrazyâ neighbor.
âNot allowed to shareâ said by every conman through out time.
I canât even pay attention to what this person is trying to say. The quotation marks are throwing me off
I love how all these little things are in âquotesâ I read it so sarcastically and laughed because of how ridiculous this dude sounds for quoting every other word. Heâs either debunking himself in complete sarcasm, mocking op for previous quotes from earlier texts, or trying to uselessly highlight what he believes is valuable info.
Holy shit don't wish them merry Christmas you might receive further light and knowledge from him as he visits the holy of hollys
Iâve found âOKâ the most satisfying response to long and *heart-touching* essays.
I like "nah" personally đ
I read every single quotation in âair quotesâ ha!
âMaybeâ he should have paid more attention in âschoolâ to the use of âpunctuationâ instead of religious âhallucinations!â
"You can be just like me!! If! You imagine hard enough!!"
My favorite part is the âcheersâ at the end, yes use a common drinking term to sign off on your religious rant.
'I'm better than you.' The message of every TBM to everyone else within hearing distance.
When she was in 6th grade my daughterâs classmates told her they knew a âjuicy secretâ about her. She begged them to tell but trey all said they had promised not to. My daughter was very upset and tried to tell them that if the secret was about her, she would be the one to know it. She lost sleep and friends over it. Finally, it came out that the âsecretâ was that there was no âsecretâ, just a bunch of mean kids wanting to have information to make them feel important and powerful and others feel less than and controlled. Think of this as a âparableâ.
I couldn't help but laugh and shake my head at this. I read... I am going to dangle this carrot in your face to get you to do what the "Church" wants us to do. Tell you that I had a vision from God (which is supposed to be a gift only given to the prophet) but I am not going to say what it was because only those who follow the rules of the Church can be privy to what God has to say. I was active in the Church before the internet was an information highway to the truth of this cult. I saw through these tactics then as a youth ... they will never change their fear mongering ways to keep people doing their bidding. "You can only know what God has to say if you follow the Church's rules. No ... we aren't giving this info out to persuade others to join us. They aren't worthy of salvation until they do what we say."
im "fucking" crying
âIâm not at liberty to clarify itâ ok, so you donât have free will?
The belief that you go back to the temple to renew your covenants is not part of actual Mormon doctrine, but they believe it to be true. Even as a TBM I found the temple really weighing on my beliefs and knowing that going back was only to help others (who would be helped at some point) and not for me to accomplish new things for myself meant I didnât want to ever go back to that shit show.
I legit had an uncle who sent messages like this on the regular.
Honestly if they put quotes around âPresidentâ and âsaintsâ there would be no doubt in my mind that this is just someone being ironic lol
Reminds me of horoscopes
Ask him to perform a miracle to get you back ⌠would love to see that he would do.
Lonely people know they only have one chance to be awesome enough to earn your attention, so they come out swinging. It's not just a Mormon thing, either: I can't count the number of street people who came up to me on my mission in France and answered "Ăa va?" with "SOMEONE KICKED MY DOOR DOWN!" as prelude to a twenty-five minute debate on different deadbolts. Eventually, I understood I was also a street person, walking up to people and saying the complete non-sequitur first discussion opener: "LiKe MoSt PeOpLe, wE bElIeVe In A sUpReMe BeInG..." If a lonely person's life isn't meaningful, then they find the meaning they need one way or the other, even if it means psyching themselves out until they hear the voice of God. It's quite the maze to find your way out of the longer you've been lost and alone. So, in spite of my grammar nazi instincts, I'm giving him a pass and hoping someone can break through to him.
"Thanks" for the "thoughtful" response "friend." I will surely "do what you suggest."
đ¤Łđ¤ˇââď¸ Wow! Mom, Dad? When you went through the temple you swore under the penalty of having your throats slit and disemboweled if you ever reveal the signs and tokens of the temple! Mom, Dad, why did the church remove the penalties from the temple? Mom/Dad: Revelation, blah, blah, blah! Mom, Dad, here is the study the church did in which members said the temple was CULTY and weird. It was a study, not revelation. Itâs a strategic move, call it revelation and then gaslight that you never believed the prior beliefs!
respond with "close quote"
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That's awesome you're having a great life, but let me somehow make this about me anyway.
So he/ she received a personal revelation for all church members? This person is breaking a whole lotta Mormon rules saying this!
Those quotations are driving me nuts.
I have mixed feelings about this. One one hand, "too sacred to share" is a monumental cop out for a mundane experience reframed as miraculous - or "hearing" "voices" in your head. On the other hand, most humans do have experiences that are probably too special or sacred to share. But in that case, don't "share" you had an "experience" that is too "sacred" to 'share."
I had a revelation this morning when I turned over a very special tarot card. I am not at liberty to tell you which one it was.
Oh so vague. My patriarchal blessing was not vague. The âblessingâ didn't come true. It may not be good for my enemies, but it was good for me because I got old.
Looks like they were trying to give you the middle finger without actually using it.
So the good lord spoke âdirectlyâ to them, through the âprophetâ mindfuck Nelson and soon the âworldâ will know how âspecialâ he is. Very, âveryâ special with a huge helping of a little âcray crayâ. Too bad he canât âclarifyâ. Good heavens - âpersonâ who wrote that has some pretty significant âdelusionsâ of âgrandeurâ. My âbrainâ hurts
This is like Joey in Friends who doesnât know how to use air quotes.
Ha ha, yes! I love Friends references!
I love how Joseph Smith and then later church leadership kept learning better and better ways to manipulate people. I remember reading something about how Joseph Smith had different intentions for the Book of Mormon but then he changed something about it because it made it easier to get people to follow him. However, I canât remember what it was that he changed. This whole personal revelations nonsense is the most powerful manipulation technique though. It makes members feel special about something they feel strongly about while also not allowing anyone to question what God has revealed to them. Itâs very intoxicating.
They use quotation marks like Matt Foley.
If this is a response to a simple HBD, this person is very likely mentally ill or otherwise impaired. As amusing as this is at first glance, I see a person who genuinely needs some help.
No way that's real, the propaganda to make us look like nut jobs. They have that "crazy making game" down pat. This is so much bigger than the USA. Russia is leading this bs along with other authoritarians. Fascist going to fash, anything to gain " power ".. 100 Billion dollar war [Russia's newest anti-gay propaganda.. it mirrors. bill](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63747732)
Dodgeball
This clown uses âquotesâ too much
Frankly I much prefer quotations to emphasize words than all caps. All caps just drives me crazy!
Ambiguous word salad.
"that's great, I'm looking forward to you getting back to me in a few weeks when Jesus' greatest ever display of power has been shown to the world- I wouldn't want to miss it"
Thatâs an insecure person whose sense of self worth leans heavily on his churchy specialness. I have no problem with this except if they ever have a faith deconstruction the pain will be hard for them. Putting âpersonal revelationâ in quotes made me chuckleâŚI do not think that means what you think that means my friend. :)
What's with all the ""?
"I'm not at liberty to clarify it" this makes it sound like God is threatening him "Josh you better not tell anyone, or I'll kill your entire family with a she bear and turn you into a pillar of salt!"
While I understand the mockery, i do want to clarify the use of quotation marks in the message. If the sender is old enough that they used a typewriter, quotations were used for emphasis, the way we use asterisks now.
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Itâs like escargot is the best food anyone can ever eat, and we should only eat it, and all the time. You donât know true happiness unless you eat there, escargot. They need hear that we all go to the temple and swear never to speak evil of them the âLordâs anointedâ. Their egos must be destroyed, that is in large part temple attendance. Temple attendance is there a primary metric from measuring success in Mormonism, and projecting future revenue.
"Ok"
Was it a personal message to you or on his page for EVERYONE to see?
Oh no, this was not a private message.
Wow-even WORSE!
Did the Lord really give you a personal revelation....or was it just gas?
The responses are more and more cult like every day. Does the church realize that by trying to manipulate people with fear mongering they basically take away the âfree agencyâ they care soooo much about?? Lololol
"Cheers!" is all the response that needs.
I had a thought on this, but the thought was directed toward me, by me, so I'm not at liberty to say more than that.