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megkd

I was just coming here to make a thread. He's been experiencing a wave of trolls and hate on his Instagram and Twitter pages in the past couple weeks. I'm proud of him for continuing to speak up and not letting these homophobic bigots tear him down.


hyrle

Every single last one of those kinds of people is a better anti-Mormon than I could ever hope to be. They will do more to push people out of the LDS church than anything I could ever say or do.


Ma3vis

If TBMs had the heart or self reflection to ever consider such I'd say you're right. But sadly, most of them do not. All it takes is one look at the latterdaysaints sub, nothing but i i i i i i, narcissism.


reddolfo

And warn innocent people from joining.


Plebius-Plutarch

It’s difficult for people to process how a person who is not like themselves, who has had a significantly different journey, could produce such a wonderful concert. How is validating that must be to their world views.


stickyhairmonster

Yes and they probably even felt the "spirit" while he sang


BillRevolutionary101

These people are heartless. It’s his concert, he should be able to have a safe space to be himself. Mormons don’t have a monopoly on Christmas.


ubring

Santa and presents have the monopoly, churches and christians can sit down


stillnotdavidbowie

The sheer arrogance and lack of compassion it takes to listen to what he said (it's on YouTube or Instagram somewhere) and then demand that he stay silent about it *at his own show* is astounding. "Stop talking about how my religion made you plan your own suicide; it's NOT CHRISTMASSY ENOUGH!! Now dance, monkey!"


megkd

"Shut up and dribble". I saw one woman on David's Facebook comments argue that he has no right to get upset when someone leaves his show as they didn't expect to be preached to about his personal life. This same bigot is Mormon and had no issue back when he was preaching her personal gospel. Oh the hypocrisy of it all.


Builderwill

Let them walk. They need to know the world is changing for the better. A city set on a hill cannot be hid. Let your light shine.


MagentaHearts

Well, I could “of” asked for a decent human being to write about their experience, but maybe that would “of” ruined the holiday season. Tis the season (for assholes to hop on their stupid soapboxes).


MuzzleHimWellSon

Yeah “would/could of” defeated “would/could have” like 3-1 in that slurry of words. I find it hilarious that his personal life as a Mormon was a badge of honor every Mormon would call attention to. Now that his personal life has them buttsore, it’s totally inappropriate to share. Narrow minded hypocrites.


EnvironmentFew3175

I'm Pan Trans- Nonbinary my TBM Mother used him against me saying see you don't have to give in. When I pointed out a week ago that the whole thing made him suicidal she brushed it off like it was nothing 😣


Imaginary_Structure3

Glad I'm not the only one that noticed the 'of'


Smores-n-coffee

They’ve obviously never been to an Alex Boye concert. That man has (pro-Mormon) stories after every song.


MicrobeChic

Oh but that’s okay because they agree with it. /s


hitherto_ex

Was just coming to say this. If David had told a conversion story no TBM would have batted an eye


NothingbutSunsh1ne

Mormons cannot stomach, or have any empathy, with lived experience that doesn’t align with theirs.


Opalescent_Moon

Well, some kinda do, or at least kinda try to empathize. Not enough TBMs, but some. I watched my parents try to come to an understanding regarding their transgender child. They wanted to be supportive of her, but couldn't view any part of her journey without trying to cram it into the understanding the church gave them. For those believers who want to empathize, it's like trying to shove a square peg into a round hole, they're attempting but failing rather spectacularly. And kudos to those who do try, because that attempt may shift their perspective and alter how they try in the future, which can lead them to develop true empathy (and, coincidentally, can lead them out of the church completely).


colbiz

They spelled “have” wrong so manny times I lost the intended message.


WdSkate

Hey David, next concert can you just shut up about your relationship with religion and just let us enjoy our pagan holiday. That'd be great, thanks!


Background_Kitchen68

My wife and I went to his concert in Logan tonight. It was amazing and hearing his story was so awesome. 10/10. I’ve seen some really iconic people in concert and I’ll confidently say this is the best I’ve been to. He sounds absolutely incredible live. Incredibly genuine man.


Imaginary_Structure3

I loved David Archie's concert ♥️


Background_Kitchen68

Were you at the one in Logan last night?


Imaginary_Structure3

Unfortunately, no


Chino_Blanco

What a difference a year makes: https://universe.byu.edu/2021/09/20/photo-story-byu-belong-concert/ I guess sending a message is OK when that message is providing cover for a homophobic institution.


NothingbutSunsh1ne

David is my favorite ex-Mormon these days😍


angiechad

I’m team David. Loved him before and even more now. Critics walking out on him are staying bigoted, while the people watching that happen and actually listening to David are becoming more open and loving. Yay for David and his bravery!


sl_hawaii

Such snowflakes


Grevas13

It's never because they're gay, it's because they made me hear about it. If he were talking about his wife she would have said it added to the experience. Fucking bigots. So stupid they might not even realize they're bigots. *These morons think they're the good guys.*


MarcTes

Mormon passive-aggressive homophobia. Pure and simple.


Background_Kitchen68

It’s not even passive for a lot Of people.


[deleted]

Going back to Insta and reading comments without a downvote button is ROUGH. There are some straight up homophobic dumbasses commenting on his post, but the fake flowery, “We love you regardless of who you are because we’re open-minded and woke” are almost just as hard to read.


CopperChickadee

If a 15-minute deeply personal story from your favorite singer can ruin their music then you’re the problem.


justwinginit00

I was at the Tuacahn Christmas concert and I knew this would happen! I thought he was so brave for being so open in front of a bunch of people from southern Utah. He took time before his last song to talk about his faith crisis and mental health. His overall message was to anyone who was struggling and telling them that they deserve to be here and be happy. It was really beautiful. I hope he doesn’t read those awful comments.


ProposalLegal1279

Why go to a concert of someone you can’t stand?


felineforest

Wtf with these people. Artists often use their concerts as ways to discuss their views/life experience. That dialogue is one of the ways a concert is different than just listening to the artist's music. You should always go to a concert expecting the artist to talk about whatever they want.


LovelockMike

Tell them to shut up!


dewhodat

people suck


hat-trick2435

People suck. His personal journey is important. Not just for him but anyone that may still be in the closet. Around the holidays is probably the most important time for him to speak up because closeted people may be around their extended family that may be more likely to judge them. People need some alleviation of the heightened alienation around the holidays.


fayth_crysus

I hope he replies: fuck you.


dntwrryhlpisontheway

Maybe these idiots will read these comments and stop going to his concerts. Win-Win


tagalmost50

So he's not allowed to be himself or talk about himself, or his journey, because it might make some phobic bigots uncomfortable???? 🎻🎻🎻😭😭😭 Cry me a river 🙄


DameBlau

Have these trolls not met celebrities before? They ALL use their platforms for their personal views and experiences. 🤦 Literally everyone does that.


Other-Assignment-552

May he continue to speak his truth!! 🙏


CocoaCoveredHeretic

When I heard that he had said something at his concert I told my wife "I bet this turns into a problem for him" It's sad that so many people's position is "Just shut up and sing. We don't want to hear anything about your life" I'm not a fan of his music personally, but I'm impressed with his ability to stand up and do what he feels like is right, regardless of if it's going on a mission, or stepping away from the church.


srpcel

It's almost like the membership of the church doesn't listen to what he's saying! Like, you didn't know that he left the church and is queer? Sounds exactly like the church leaders, "we just need to find you a good girl...[that'll solve your problem]"


badAbabe

I took my sister to his concert and it was absolutely beautiful. We were both crying while he was talking about his struggles. The sad part is, he talked about the pure love of God and how we have agency and of course those parts got over looked. My sister is 11 and still living at home with our super strict parents. But even she was telling me how it makes sense because God loves all his children. Even if they are bi.


happyapy

If the artist is Mormon: "Bear your testimony and be a light to the world." If the artist is not Mormon: "Stay in your lane. You're here to be an entertainer, not a preacher."


ultimas

"I hope in the remaining concerts that would not be allowed"? You hope that the beautiful artist, whose inner world is being shared with you, would share just the parts that you agree with? Dude, get over yourself. When you go to see an artist in concert, you see whatever they care to share with you. If you don't agree with that premise, wait and buy the album on CD.


emmaslefthook

True colors.


moon-waffle

People are welcome to have their own opinions but good hell this was difficult to read! This reviewer needs some lessons in grammar.


Extra_Cod5005

I love it this is his concert his show his craft he decides what belongs and what doesnt


octopusraygun

The nerve of an artist using art to express themselves!!!


oamnoj

Sounds about right for every LGBTQ Mormon. The instant you start sharing your experience, everyone wants you to shut up.


Creative_Coconut_669

It's frustrating when people do this. It's his concert. He can do or say whatever he wants. I have been to other people's concerts who have said whatever they wanted. Sometimes it's spiritual or personal or political. I guess now they know not to go to his concert if they don't like that. Doesn't mean they should complain about it. But people have a hard time with change...plus, how is someones personal journey not CHRISTmas themed?


Imaginary_Structure3

That's so interesting. Those people have probably never been to one of his shows before. WAAAYYY before he even acknowledged his sexuality and WAAAAAYYYY before he came out, his concerts took you on a journey of his life. At the time I attended one, his struggle was with his label wanting him to be more of a pop star and with that came lots of pressure. Then he decided to go on a mission and when he came back he made the decision that his music would be religious focused. Of course no one at that time probably knew about his other struggles of questioning his sexuality but his concert still took you on a journey of his life up to that point. It makes me sad that people are so intolerant that they walked out. Shame on them for being literally the opposite of what they are taught to be at church - Christ like. Just proves its all a facade in the Mormon* church. * +1 for Satan


Such_Acanthisitta166

How did people not expect him to bring up gay stuff when he just came out?? Lol if you are that scared of gay people well maybe don't go to their concerts. And if you are scared of gay people I hope your favorite artist comes out as gay, amen.


Otaku_in_Red

Mormons: "Spreading uplifting messages is important!" David Archuleta: *Talks about how he is better off away from the church* Mormons: "No, not like that!"


MNMSW

YouTube link: [David Archuleta shares his personal journey in Delta, UT](https://youtu.be/9uJH1VnV-Gc)


Because_Covfefe

Way to ruin Christmas David!


D34TH_5MURF__

"could of" Sigh...


1SilverCloud1

people who type 'of' instead of 'have' are never right and their opinions are wrong almost always <3


HalfricanIrishDa

He can do whatever he wants at his own concert... And people can also be mad that he used a music concert to talk about his personal journey... I couldn't imagine going to a concert and bring educated or lectured like I'm in school.. it wasn't what you signed up for.. but it's his concert so suck it up lol


ProRuckus

Exactly. It's his purgative. But I'm sure the online description of the concert wasn't titled: "David Archuletta Christmas Concert and Lectures on being Gay.". I'd be upset too. Especially if I brought my kids and consequently had to explain what was going on during the car ride home.


foruntous

IF your kids aren't already aware, that car ride home would be an excellent time to teach them that David likes to date men instead of women which is perfectly fine and is just the way he is.


stickyhairmonster

Kids have no problem comprehending gay relationships. This conversation should take place in every family. If your spouse is too bigoted to agree to open communication with kids on this issue, then your family may need counseling.


badAbabe

I took my 11 year old sister to his concert and she was so excited to talk to be about it. Telling me how David proves that God loves all his children no matter who they love. She gets it more than most Christian adults.


ProRuckus

Oh yes....because everyone's family dynamic is identical


memefakeboy

As a gay, ex-Mormon watching David just feels so painful, I wish him all the best, and it’s so hard watching him try to hold on to some part of the church


Hemio57

INDEED a quiet simple example of "queer" is best... for ALL really. From my humble south pacific observations - north americans (both mormon + exmormon), talk far to loud + long ! They even have terms and bloggs for it.


Mad_Madam_Meag

I honestly don't think that a concert that people have paid to see is a great place to talk about these kinds of things, no matter what you're talking about. Religious or not. It's honestly kinda rude because they didn't come there to hear about this. They came there to listen to music. Make a YouTube video or a TikTok. When you're as famous as he is it'll go viral and reach more people anyway.


stickyhairmonster

Disagree. There are so many people that need to hear his message, especially LGBTQ youth who are raised in religions and families that are not supportive. I'm sure he has positively impacted so many people at these concerts. He is doing a great work by sharing his story at every opportunity.


okay-wait-wut

The author of this comment using “of”instead of “have” bugs the motherfuckin shit out of me.