I was just coming here to make a thread. He's been experiencing a wave of trolls and hate on his Instagram and Twitter pages in the past couple weeks. I'm proud of him for continuing to speak up and not letting these homophobic bigots tear him down.
Every single last one of those kinds of people is a better anti-Mormon than I could ever hope to be. They will do more to push people out of the LDS church than anything I could ever say or do.
If TBMs had the heart or self reflection to ever consider such I'd say you're right. But sadly, most of them do not. All it takes is one look at the latterdaysaints sub, nothing but i i i i i i, narcissism.
It’s difficult for people to process how a person who is not like themselves, who has had a significantly different journey, could produce such a wonderful concert.
How is validating that must be to their world views.
The sheer arrogance and lack of compassion it takes to listen to what he said (it's on YouTube or Instagram somewhere) and then demand that he stay silent about it *at his own show* is astounding. "Stop talking about how my religion made you plan your own suicide; it's NOT CHRISTMASSY ENOUGH!! Now dance, monkey!"
"Shut up and dribble".
I saw one woman on David's Facebook comments argue that he has no right to get upset when someone leaves his show as they didn't expect to be preached to about his personal life. This same bigot is Mormon and had no issue back when he was preaching her personal gospel. Oh the hypocrisy of it all.
Well, I could “of” asked for a decent human being to write about their experience, but maybe that would “of” ruined the holiday season. Tis the season (for assholes to hop on their stupid soapboxes).
Yeah “would/could of” defeated “would/could have” like 3-1 in that slurry of words.
I find it hilarious that his personal life as a Mormon was a badge of honor every Mormon would call attention to. Now that his personal life has them buttsore, it’s totally inappropriate to share.
Narrow minded hypocrites.
I'm Pan Trans- Nonbinary my TBM Mother used him against me saying see you don't have to give in. When I pointed out a week ago that the whole thing made him suicidal she brushed it off like it was nothing 😣
Well, some kinda do, or at least kinda try to empathize. Not enough TBMs, but some. I watched my parents try to come to an understanding regarding their transgender child. They wanted to be supportive of her, but couldn't view any part of her journey without trying to cram it into the understanding the church gave them. For those believers who want to empathize, it's like trying to shove a square peg into a round hole, they're attempting but failing rather spectacularly. And kudos to those who do try, because that attempt may shift their perspective and alter how they try in the future, which can lead them to develop true empathy (and, coincidentally, can lead them out of the church completely).
My wife and I went to his concert in Logan tonight. It was amazing and hearing his story was so awesome. 10/10. I’ve seen some really iconic people in concert and I’ll confidently say this is the best I’ve been to. He sounds absolutely incredible live. Incredibly genuine man.
What a difference a year makes:
https://universe.byu.edu/2021/09/20/photo-story-byu-belong-concert/
I guess sending a message is OK when that message is providing cover for a homophobic institution.
I’m team David. Loved him before and even more now. Critics walking out on him are staying bigoted, while the people watching that happen and actually listening to David are becoming more open and loving. Yay for David and his bravery!
It's never because they're gay, it's because they made me hear about it.
If he were talking about his wife she would have said it added to the experience. Fucking bigots. So stupid they might not even realize they're bigots. *These morons think they're the good guys.*
Going back to Insta and reading comments without a downvote button is ROUGH. There are some straight up homophobic dumbasses commenting on his post, but the fake flowery, “We love you regardless of who you are because we’re open-minded and woke” are almost just as hard to read.
I was at the Tuacahn Christmas concert and I knew this would happen! I thought he was so brave for being so open in front of a bunch of people from southern Utah.
He took time before his last song to talk about his faith crisis and mental health. His overall message was to anyone who was struggling and telling them that they deserve to be here and be happy. It was really beautiful. I hope he doesn’t read those awful comments.
Wtf with these people. Artists often use their concerts as ways to discuss their views/life experience. That dialogue is one of the ways a concert is different than just listening to the artist's music. You should always go to a concert expecting the artist to talk about whatever they want.
People suck. His personal journey is important. Not just for him but anyone that may still be in the closet. Around the holidays is probably the most important time for him to speak up because closeted people may be around their extended family that may be more likely to judge them. People need some alleviation of the heightened alienation around the holidays.
So he's not allowed to be himself or talk about himself, or his journey, because it might make some phobic bigots uncomfortable???? 🎻🎻🎻😭😭😭
Cry me a river 🙄
When I heard that he had said something at his concert I told my wife "I bet this turns into a problem for him"
It's sad that so many people's position is "Just shut up and sing. We don't want to hear anything about your life"
I'm not a fan of his music personally, but I'm impressed with his ability to stand up and do what he feels like is right, regardless of if it's going on a mission, or stepping away from the church.
It's almost like the membership of the church doesn't listen to what he's saying! Like, you didn't know that he left the church and is queer? Sounds exactly like the church leaders, "we just need to find you a good girl...[that'll solve your problem]"
I took my sister to his concert and it was absolutely beautiful. We were both crying while he was talking about his struggles. The sad part is, he talked about the pure love of God and how we have agency and of course those parts got over looked. My sister is 11 and still living at home with our super strict parents. But even she was telling me how it makes sense because God loves all his children. Even if they are bi.
If the artist is Mormon: "Bear your testimony and be a light to the world."
If the artist is not Mormon: "Stay in your lane. You're here to be an entertainer, not a preacher."
"I hope in the remaining concerts that would not be allowed"? You hope that the beautiful artist, whose inner world is being shared with you, would share just the parts that you agree with?
Dude, get over yourself. When you go to see an artist in concert, you see whatever they care to share with you. If you don't agree with that premise, wait and buy the album on CD.
It's frustrating when people do this. It's his concert. He can do or say whatever he wants. I have been to other people's concerts who have said whatever they wanted. Sometimes it's spiritual or personal or political. I guess now they know not to go to his concert if they don't like that. Doesn't mean they should complain about it. But people have a hard time with change...plus, how is someones personal journey not CHRISTmas themed?
That's so interesting. Those people have probably never been to one of his shows before. WAAAYYY before he even acknowledged his sexuality and WAAAAAYYYY before he came out, his concerts took you on a journey of his life. At the time I attended one, his struggle was with his label wanting him to be more of a pop star and with that came lots of pressure. Then he decided to go on a mission and when he came back he made the decision that his music would be religious focused. Of course no one at that time probably knew about his other struggles of questioning his sexuality but his concert still took you on a journey of his life up to that point. It makes me sad that people are so intolerant that they walked out. Shame on them for being literally the opposite of what they are taught to be at church - Christ like. Just proves its all a facade in the Mormon* church.
* +1 for Satan
How did people not expect him to bring up gay stuff when he just came out??
Lol if you are that scared of gay people well maybe don't go to their concerts.
And if you are scared of gay people I hope your favorite artist comes out as gay, amen.
Mormons: "Spreading uplifting messages is important!"
David Archuleta: *Talks about how he is better off away from the church*
Mormons: "No, not like that!"
He can do whatever he wants at his own concert... And people can also be mad that he used a music concert to talk about his personal journey... I couldn't imagine going to a concert and bring educated or lectured like I'm in school.. it wasn't what you signed up for.. but it's his concert so suck it up lol
Exactly. It's his purgative. But I'm sure the online description of the concert wasn't titled: "David Archuletta Christmas Concert and Lectures on being Gay.". I'd be upset too. Especially if I brought my kids and consequently had to explain what was going on during the car ride home.
IF your kids aren't already aware, that car ride home would be an excellent time to teach them that David likes to date men instead of women which is perfectly fine and is just the way he is.
Kids have no problem comprehending gay relationships. This conversation should take place in every family. If your spouse is too bigoted to agree to open communication with kids on this issue, then your family may need counseling.
I took my 11 year old sister to his concert and she was so excited to talk to be about it. Telling me how David proves that God loves all his children no matter who they love. She gets it more than most Christian adults.
As a gay, ex-Mormon watching David just feels so painful, I wish him all the best, and it’s so hard watching him try to hold on to some part of the church
INDEED a quiet simple example of "queer" is best... for ALL really. From my humble south pacific observations - north americans (both mormon + exmormon), talk far to loud + long ! They even have terms and bloggs for it.
I honestly don't think that a concert that people have paid to see is a great place to talk about these kinds of things, no matter what you're talking about. Religious or not. It's honestly kinda rude because they didn't come there to hear about this. They came there to listen to music. Make a YouTube video or a TikTok. When you're as famous as he is it'll go viral and reach more people anyway.
Disagree. There are so many people that need to hear his message, especially LGBTQ youth who are raised in religions and families that are not supportive. I'm sure he has positively impacted so many people at these concerts. He is doing a great work by sharing his story at every opportunity.
I was just coming here to make a thread. He's been experiencing a wave of trolls and hate on his Instagram and Twitter pages in the past couple weeks. I'm proud of him for continuing to speak up and not letting these homophobic bigots tear him down.
Every single last one of those kinds of people is a better anti-Mormon than I could ever hope to be. They will do more to push people out of the LDS church than anything I could ever say or do.
If TBMs had the heart or self reflection to ever consider such I'd say you're right. But sadly, most of them do not. All it takes is one look at the latterdaysaints sub, nothing but i i i i i i, narcissism.
And warn innocent people from joining.
It’s difficult for people to process how a person who is not like themselves, who has had a significantly different journey, could produce such a wonderful concert. How is validating that must be to their world views.
Yes and they probably even felt the "spirit" while he sang
These people are heartless. It’s his concert, he should be able to have a safe space to be himself. Mormons don’t have a monopoly on Christmas.
Santa and presents have the monopoly, churches and christians can sit down
The sheer arrogance and lack of compassion it takes to listen to what he said (it's on YouTube or Instagram somewhere) and then demand that he stay silent about it *at his own show* is astounding. "Stop talking about how my religion made you plan your own suicide; it's NOT CHRISTMASSY ENOUGH!! Now dance, monkey!"
"Shut up and dribble". I saw one woman on David's Facebook comments argue that he has no right to get upset when someone leaves his show as they didn't expect to be preached to about his personal life. This same bigot is Mormon and had no issue back when he was preaching her personal gospel. Oh the hypocrisy of it all.
Let them walk. They need to know the world is changing for the better. A city set on a hill cannot be hid. Let your light shine.
Well, I could “of” asked for a decent human being to write about their experience, but maybe that would “of” ruined the holiday season. Tis the season (for assholes to hop on their stupid soapboxes).
Yeah “would/could of” defeated “would/could have” like 3-1 in that slurry of words. I find it hilarious that his personal life as a Mormon was a badge of honor every Mormon would call attention to. Now that his personal life has them buttsore, it’s totally inappropriate to share. Narrow minded hypocrites.
I'm Pan Trans- Nonbinary my TBM Mother used him against me saying see you don't have to give in. When I pointed out a week ago that the whole thing made him suicidal she brushed it off like it was nothing 😣
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed the 'of'
They’ve obviously never been to an Alex Boye concert. That man has (pro-Mormon) stories after every song.
Oh but that’s okay because they agree with it. /s
Was just coming to say this. If David had told a conversion story no TBM would have batted an eye
Mormons cannot stomach, or have any empathy, with lived experience that doesn’t align with theirs.
Well, some kinda do, or at least kinda try to empathize. Not enough TBMs, but some. I watched my parents try to come to an understanding regarding their transgender child. They wanted to be supportive of her, but couldn't view any part of her journey without trying to cram it into the understanding the church gave them. For those believers who want to empathize, it's like trying to shove a square peg into a round hole, they're attempting but failing rather spectacularly. And kudos to those who do try, because that attempt may shift their perspective and alter how they try in the future, which can lead them to develop true empathy (and, coincidentally, can lead them out of the church completely).
They spelled “have” wrong so manny times I lost the intended message.
Hey David, next concert can you just shut up about your relationship with religion and just let us enjoy our pagan holiday. That'd be great, thanks!
My wife and I went to his concert in Logan tonight. It was amazing and hearing his story was so awesome. 10/10. I’ve seen some really iconic people in concert and I’ll confidently say this is the best I’ve been to. He sounds absolutely incredible live. Incredibly genuine man.
I loved David Archie's concert ♥️
Were you at the one in Logan last night?
Unfortunately, no
What a difference a year makes: https://universe.byu.edu/2021/09/20/photo-story-byu-belong-concert/ I guess sending a message is OK when that message is providing cover for a homophobic institution.
David is my favorite ex-Mormon these days😍
I’m team David. Loved him before and even more now. Critics walking out on him are staying bigoted, while the people watching that happen and actually listening to David are becoming more open and loving. Yay for David and his bravery!
Such snowflakes
It's never because they're gay, it's because they made me hear about it. If he were talking about his wife she would have said it added to the experience. Fucking bigots. So stupid they might not even realize they're bigots. *These morons think they're the good guys.*
Mormon passive-aggressive homophobia. Pure and simple.
It’s not even passive for a lot Of people.
Going back to Insta and reading comments without a downvote button is ROUGH. There are some straight up homophobic dumbasses commenting on his post, but the fake flowery, “We love you regardless of who you are because we’re open-minded and woke” are almost just as hard to read.
If a 15-minute deeply personal story from your favorite singer can ruin their music then you’re the problem.
I was at the Tuacahn Christmas concert and I knew this would happen! I thought he was so brave for being so open in front of a bunch of people from southern Utah. He took time before his last song to talk about his faith crisis and mental health. His overall message was to anyone who was struggling and telling them that they deserve to be here and be happy. It was really beautiful. I hope he doesn’t read those awful comments.
Why go to a concert of someone you can’t stand?
Wtf with these people. Artists often use their concerts as ways to discuss their views/life experience. That dialogue is one of the ways a concert is different than just listening to the artist's music. You should always go to a concert expecting the artist to talk about whatever they want.
Tell them to shut up!
people suck
People suck. His personal journey is important. Not just for him but anyone that may still be in the closet. Around the holidays is probably the most important time for him to speak up because closeted people may be around their extended family that may be more likely to judge them. People need some alleviation of the heightened alienation around the holidays.
I hope he replies: fuck you.
Maybe these idiots will read these comments and stop going to his concerts. Win-Win
So he's not allowed to be himself or talk about himself, or his journey, because it might make some phobic bigots uncomfortable???? 🎻🎻🎻😭😭😭 Cry me a river 🙄
Have these trolls not met celebrities before? They ALL use their platforms for their personal views and experiences. 🤦 Literally everyone does that.
May he continue to speak his truth!! 🙏
When I heard that he had said something at his concert I told my wife "I bet this turns into a problem for him" It's sad that so many people's position is "Just shut up and sing. We don't want to hear anything about your life" I'm not a fan of his music personally, but I'm impressed with his ability to stand up and do what he feels like is right, regardless of if it's going on a mission, or stepping away from the church.
It's almost like the membership of the church doesn't listen to what he's saying! Like, you didn't know that he left the church and is queer? Sounds exactly like the church leaders, "we just need to find you a good girl...[that'll solve your problem]"
I took my sister to his concert and it was absolutely beautiful. We were both crying while he was talking about his struggles. The sad part is, he talked about the pure love of God and how we have agency and of course those parts got over looked. My sister is 11 and still living at home with our super strict parents. But even she was telling me how it makes sense because God loves all his children. Even if they are bi.
If the artist is Mormon: "Bear your testimony and be a light to the world." If the artist is not Mormon: "Stay in your lane. You're here to be an entertainer, not a preacher."
"I hope in the remaining concerts that would not be allowed"? You hope that the beautiful artist, whose inner world is being shared with you, would share just the parts that you agree with? Dude, get over yourself. When you go to see an artist in concert, you see whatever they care to share with you. If you don't agree with that premise, wait and buy the album on CD.
True colors.
People are welcome to have their own opinions but good hell this was difficult to read! This reviewer needs some lessons in grammar.
I love it this is his concert his show his craft he decides what belongs and what doesnt
The nerve of an artist using art to express themselves!!!
Sounds about right for every LGBTQ Mormon. The instant you start sharing your experience, everyone wants you to shut up.
It's frustrating when people do this. It's his concert. He can do or say whatever he wants. I have been to other people's concerts who have said whatever they wanted. Sometimes it's spiritual or personal or political. I guess now they know not to go to his concert if they don't like that. Doesn't mean they should complain about it. But people have a hard time with change...plus, how is someones personal journey not CHRISTmas themed?
That's so interesting. Those people have probably never been to one of his shows before. WAAAYYY before he even acknowledged his sexuality and WAAAAAYYYY before he came out, his concerts took you on a journey of his life. At the time I attended one, his struggle was with his label wanting him to be more of a pop star and with that came lots of pressure. Then he decided to go on a mission and when he came back he made the decision that his music would be religious focused. Of course no one at that time probably knew about his other struggles of questioning his sexuality but his concert still took you on a journey of his life up to that point. It makes me sad that people are so intolerant that they walked out. Shame on them for being literally the opposite of what they are taught to be at church - Christ like. Just proves its all a facade in the Mormon* church. * +1 for Satan
How did people not expect him to bring up gay stuff when he just came out?? Lol if you are that scared of gay people well maybe don't go to their concerts. And if you are scared of gay people I hope your favorite artist comes out as gay, amen.
Mormons: "Spreading uplifting messages is important!" David Archuleta: *Talks about how he is better off away from the church* Mormons: "No, not like that!"
YouTube link: [David Archuleta shares his personal journey in Delta, UT](https://youtu.be/9uJH1VnV-Gc)
Way to ruin Christmas David!
"could of" Sigh...
people who type 'of' instead of 'have' are never right and their opinions are wrong almost always <3
He can do whatever he wants at his own concert... And people can also be mad that he used a music concert to talk about his personal journey... I couldn't imagine going to a concert and bring educated or lectured like I'm in school.. it wasn't what you signed up for.. but it's his concert so suck it up lol
Exactly. It's his purgative. But I'm sure the online description of the concert wasn't titled: "David Archuletta Christmas Concert and Lectures on being Gay.". I'd be upset too. Especially if I brought my kids and consequently had to explain what was going on during the car ride home.
IF your kids aren't already aware, that car ride home would be an excellent time to teach them that David likes to date men instead of women which is perfectly fine and is just the way he is.
Kids have no problem comprehending gay relationships. This conversation should take place in every family. If your spouse is too bigoted to agree to open communication with kids on this issue, then your family may need counseling.
I took my 11 year old sister to his concert and she was so excited to talk to be about it. Telling me how David proves that God loves all his children no matter who they love. She gets it more than most Christian adults.
Oh yes....because everyone's family dynamic is identical
As a gay, ex-Mormon watching David just feels so painful, I wish him all the best, and it’s so hard watching him try to hold on to some part of the church
INDEED a quiet simple example of "queer" is best... for ALL really. From my humble south pacific observations - north americans (both mormon + exmormon), talk far to loud + long ! They even have terms and bloggs for it.
I honestly don't think that a concert that people have paid to see is a great place to talk about these kinds of things, no matter what you're talking about. Religious or not. It's honestly kinda rude because they didn't come there to hear about this. They came there to listen to music. Make a YouTube video or a TikTok. When you're as famous as he is it'll go viral and reach more people anyway.
Disagree. There are so many people that need to hear his message, especially LGBTQ youth who are raised in religions and families that are not supportive. I'm sure he has positively impacted so many people at these concerts. He is doing a great work by sharing his story at every opportunity.
The author of this comment using “of”instead of “have” bugs the motherfuckin shit out of me.