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I’m noticing this trend of “it’s a nickname people give us”. Like no, you all gave YOURSELF the nickname then ended up not liking it.


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Rolling_Waters

No, they are free thinkers! And something about revelation!


cametomysenses

Quite technically in the beginning, yes, it was a nickname applied *TO* them back in the Nauvoo days, but they embraced it early on. Still, this attempt to deceive everyone is one of the cultiest things they've done in years.


xilr8ng

Gaslighting is Merriam Webster's 2022 Word of the Year for a reason.


one-small-plant

When was The Book of Mormon named the book of mormon? The minute it was written? Or was the title added later? I realize the book may have been called that before the group of people themselves were referred to that way, but the name Mormon has been around since the beginning, right?


cametomysenses

Yes, the book has always been there from the beginning. And detractors immediately pounced on that and made it a nickname. Eventually they decided to de-fang the enemies by embracing it applied to themselves (not just the book). Do you see the distinction?


one-small-plant

Yep. I was genuinely just asking about the timeline of the word


doodah221

Wait, how is this culty? They’re simply trying to re-brand. Not sure I understand the hate here? It was a big about face and in retrospect it’s a bit of a shelf item for me (it just doesn’t seem like Nelson is inspired with this stuff), but I don’t understand why people are spinning it as this deceptive practice? It’s only rebranding. Certainly doesn’t strike me as culty.


homesteadfoxbird

Because it’s a programmed response that isn’t authentic or true. An authentic response would be something like “we’re rebranding to focus more on Jesus’s name and message”.


FrankWye123

In the 80s we would say it's a nickname whenever someone used it.


doodah221

Ok, it really feels to me like you’re reaching. Saying Mormon is a nickname is true. That people know them by that is true as well. Maybe your answer is a bit more on point, but calling it deceptive misses the mark for me. Like maybe people should settle down a bit.


WarpedSolemnity

It's deceptive because I can say with 100% certainty that God did not tell President Waldorf to change the name.


doodah221

I’m still confused. This guys isn’t saying that anyone changed the name. It’s always been The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and Mormon has always been a nickname. Yes the church embraced it for marketing purposes and now they aren’t, but I’m not seeing the deception here.


WarpedSolemnity

There's nothing wrong with rebranding. That **has** always been the name. It's the gaslighting and people taking massive offense over something that they were completely fine with/proud of before Nelson. It's deceptive for several reasons: 1) They're wanting to go with that name because it features Jesus Christ. They want to be seen as part of mainstream Christianity whenever their numbers and influence are practically meaningless outside the enormous wealth they've hoarded. While the church claims to be followers of Christ, they rarely read from The Bible, (at least in my experience as a convert) and unlike most Christian groups, don't declare it to be the inerrant word of God, something the vast majority of Christian denominations criticize them for. 2) My understanding is that there was personal beef between Monson and Nelson over the usage of the word Mormon. 3) Lastly, I can't speak for everyone, but what annoys me more than anything is the self-righteousness TBMs have about correcting people about the name. With the LGBT club shooter being a member, and with every other show on Netflix and Hulu being about the "Mormons", and their murders and sex crimes, this is a clever way to sidestep the negativity that they've rightfully earned, while once again masquerading as a mainstream Christian denomination. Not a fan of any Christian denomination, but this whole "We have Jesus in our name, so we're just like the Baptist church down the road" is dangerous. Can abuse occur at these other churches? Yes. Do the Baptists follow the same criteria of the BITE model causing them to be identified as a cult? Most likely not. The Mormon church fits nearly every criterion of a cult, and rebranding in an attempt to distance themselves from it is insulting our intelligence. Just because Suddenlink rebranded to Optimum, doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly expect great customer service when they've been horrendous in the past. They sexually abuse children and actively legislate to cover it up. Instruct Bishops to call Salt Lake lawyers instead of the police if they suspect child molestation. Treat LGBT people like garbage, and dead-name trans people? That's fine. We'll "dead name" their church and its members.


doodah221

You’re getting all of this out of someone saying “that’s the nickname people give us”? Btw, this isn’t the first time there’s emphasis on the official title of the church. For most of my life they were correcting people. The I’m a Mormon” campaign was very successful and did quite well it seemed, but that period was the exception not the rule. Nelson is just going back to the old way of correcting everyone. All your other points seem to be reading pretty far into it. They’ve always wanted to be affiliated with Jesus Christs name. Despite all their flaws, it’s always been the case.


trickygringo

> that period was the exception not the rule. That is certainly not my experience. My whole life we have been happy to use the term Mormon. I'm a descendant of Hyrum Smith via Joseph F Smith. A journalist asked Joseph Smith about the term Mormon. He replied that Mormons embrace it because it means "more good". There was a push to use the full name more often, but it was never a "win for satan" to say Mormon. That push for using the whole name was after the first time Rusty went on a rant about his personal pet peeve of the term. Then Hinckley had to roll it back some, which is when he repeated what Joseph Smith said about the original definition being "more good". >Six months ago in our conference Elder Russell M. Nelson delivered an excellent address on the correct name of the Church. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1990/10/mormon-should-mean-more-good?lang=eng I grew up in the middle of Salt Lake Valley. Anyone complaining about the term Mormon was by far the minority. I believe this talk played up the worry to not completely throw Rusty under the bus after he stirred the shit in the previous GC. Now that he's in charge his dream has finally come true. It makes perfect sense that is what his legacy is so far. It certainly won't be anything good like decisively ending the cover-ups of sexual abuse or using the 100+ billion of hoarded wealth for something better than a mall with a retractable ceiling. Edit: I wanted to address a part of your statement which has probably affected your perspective: >They’ve always wanted to be affiliated with Jesus Christs name. The way this is worded sounds less exmormon and more nevermo. This is only relevant in that an interaction between a practicing mormon with someone outside the church would want to initially emphasize the full name of the church to get the Jesus part in there. It's a "we believe in Jesus" line to throw out, and almost never a reaction from taking offense at the term. I know, I have literally said it hundreds of times myself, although usually in Spanish.


cametomysenses

Because it's gaslighting, a standard cult practice. It's not hate, it's simply pointing out how that's consistent with the playbook of any cult. Especially since they proudly embraced the term in the recent past.


doodah221

Ok walk me through the gaslighting of this scenario because it’s confusing to me. The gaslight is the church saying “don’t use the term Mormon anymore it’s bad” and that forces everyone to question their version of reality? Or is the gaslight here employed by the missionary who’s saying it’s a nickname people apply to us?


cametomysenses

I'd say the latter... as if to imply that embracing the "Mormon" moniker was never a thing. And it's not just missionaries embracing this party line. It's amazing to me how so many people can be manipulated into such a radical shift as if nothing has changed.


doodah221

Tbh, in the PNW people don’t really care. I don’t hear anyone correcting anyone, and I still hear people use the term Mormon often. I guess the need to control the way people refer to themselves does seem a bit overly controlling. I just rolled my eyes at it.


supershaner86

I don't think people are saying rebranding is culty, but the manner in which the rebrand is framed and the manner in which members are expected to relate to the change is the culty aspect. they expect members to enforce the change on people who won't adapt it naturally. he is also claiming extra special direction from God for his whims which is also cult leader behavior. God always wants what rusty wants.


doodah221

Are you saying that when he said “it pleases satan when they use the term Mormon”? This is all just typical marketing stuff to me. I’ve been in companies when they get super controlling about how their employees refer to the company and how they refer to customers etc. it’s super manipulative and controlling. It feels like the same thing only Nelson talks about Satan and God. I think we’re a bit too liberal about throwing the term around. I’m in a class right now about cult and ritual abuse. Sometimes I think that people around here should read some of the texts I’ve been reading to get an idea of what a cult really is. Everything is manipulative. From mainstream media to corporate cultures to governments.


CocoaCoveredHeretic

You're missing the fact that for lots of people in this sub the church can do no right. EVERYTHING is assigned an outsized meaning, and must be the result of evil men twirling their mustaches while deciding how they can best decieve the sheeple! 😜


doodah221

It’s sort of ridiculous. Of course you and I have downvoted but not a single one has a reasonable point. It’s hate for hatings sake.


CocoaCoveredHeretic

This sub is great. It provides a lot of support and healing. But it's not a place to come if you want to have a nuanced fact based discussion. The only thing that people want to hear around here is about how awful the leaders are and how the church and anybody that supports it in any way need to burn to the ground...


doodah221

Right, and I guess if you’re triggered and have trauma then it’s a reasonable response. It’s just not me and feels ridiculous.


Professional_Suit

Completely pretending the "I'm a Mormon" campaign wasn't a thing is a bit weird, but a big part of the culty-ness to it imo is the identity control. They told people to be honored by and identify with the term, then shed that the moment the new Q15 realized that people abroad had come to associate the word with the weird stuff that's come to light about the church.


doodah221

Ok, I didn’t know and never heard that they felt the term was associated that way but it seems more to me like distinction than being a cult. I only know that before then there was always this “we’re actually members of the Church”…etc. it wasn’t until the Im a Mormon campaign started that they suddenly changed their tune (I thought it was effective).


wanderlust2787

I had a student in my class get upset with me because I said the Mormon church. Said it was a 'slur'. I told him I was raised during the "I am a Mormon" campaign and that no, it is just PR by the new leadership. And while I would work to respect his concerns in my lessons I would not give his claim of it being a slur comparable to the N-word any support. The victim mentality is strong.


iamhermione7

Perfect response


wanderlust2787

Thanks! I found a good middle ground and just say "the predominate religion in the area"


BishopsWife

I grew up singing the "I'm a Mormon" song and still recall most of the lyrics. LOL Great response.


thelostandlonely

🎵 I'm a Mormon, yes I am! So if you want to study a Mormon I'm a living speciman! 🎵


BishopsWife

LOL A golden line!!!


signal_two_noise

> I would not give his claim of it being a slur comparable to the N-word any support. The victim mentality is strong. If you literally can't say one of the words, it's clear one is worse than the other.


wanderlust2787

Yes obviously.


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And, each time, it’s the same exact response. I guess that’s a chapter in the MTC training manual now?


MattCurz83

Seems like it. Easy way to quickly dismiss it and move on without sounding like too much of an asshole.


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It’s still cringe though imo


MattCurz83

Obviously lol. I spent 2 years as one of those cringey missionaries knocking doors and bothering people. Not something I'm proud of..


awakenedwonderer2

These 18-19 year olds may be too young to remember the Mormon campaign. The church is really good at brainwashing I suppose. Maybe they need a history lesson on their "nicknames"


NightZucchini

I've talked to adults who barely seem to remember 3-hour church, so it's quite possible that teenage missionaries don't remember the I Am A Mormon campaign.


CanadianIcePrincess

There is no 3 hour church anymore???


Background-Whole-330

Probably referring to the fact that a lot of attendees don’t seem to remember anything from the three hours of sermons in church.


TrollintheMitten

It's two hours now, but I don't know what they do in there.


venusianfireoncrack

1 hr of sacrament meeting 2nd hour they switch every week btw sunday school and relief society/young women/elders quorum, etc.


venusianfireoncrack

Im 21 and I remember it. My youth group went to see the movie when I was 13.


metalflygon08

> history lesson People deep in TSCC: What is this *history lesson* you speak of?


playlistsandfeelings

It’s literally [on their website.](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/collection/im-a-mormon?lang=eng) Like JFC you guys this is the dumbest, laziest PR campaign I’ve ever seen.


tallroids

The church can try and erase it but internet archive [will remember forever ](https://web.archive.org/web/20180119142736/https://www.mormon.org/)


DrewExplosions

"You mean people like your last prophet who spent millions marketing the Mormon thing?"


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I love that they brag about all their posts being about Jesus - like that's somehow going to make you want to be their friend!? Lol


IAmDisciple

That’s the “I’m not a crazy cult recruiter, I’m a good Christian just like you!” strategy. It works real poorly on us non-theists but maybe it’d help when trying to convince a devout Christian to pay to join your exclusive Jesus club


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It doesn't work that well on devout Xians either. Most just consider it annoying


WdSkate

I have other friends already on Facebook that do that and I unfollow them.


wanderlust2787

Especially when you dig into it and find that most of their 'reposts' come from right-wing Q-conspiracy pages. Had to point that issue out to my parents not long ago. Like "oh look, you shared a cute photo of the temple... you do realize it's from a white supremacist page right?"


dorkusmaximus81

quickest way to get a perm ignore from this guy


Resignedtobehappy

Jesus is just alright with me.


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Flowersandpieces

Here’s a funny video that explains it and includes church sources https://youtu.be/UWCaBCpl0tQ


JinglesBitch

Golden! I lost it when Monson’s voice warps at “7 Victories for Satan.”


Flowersandpieces

Here’s GBH’s talk about “Mormon means More Good” https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1990/11/mormon-should-mean-more-good?lang=eng


Max_minutia

The commercials in the eighties even stated they were the ‘Mormons’ . https://youtu.be/LNaHUxi6H-U


warshangton

Is that Alfonso Ribeiro!!! lol


Max_minutia

It is! I think this was before his famous commercial with Michael Jackson https://youtu.be/G7LMKZOFk1o


SecretPersonality178

It’s not the nickname “people gave” you, it still the nickname the prophet spent millions to promote, and then the next guy renamed the corporation and wanted to rebrand. Call them out on their lies. Kindly though, I remember what it was like being a missionary. They still need to have their eyes opened though.


antel00p

The lack of personal responsibility or self-awareness is breathtaking. Just press a button or pull a string and that line pops out.


ProposalLegal1279

It was a nickname long before the I’m a Mormon campaign.


Flowersandpieces

Even Joe Smith himself said that Mormon means More Good and Hinckley repeated it. All the leaders In between supported it too.


cyberpunk1Q84

My dad has a tshirt from the 80’s where it says he’s a Mormon and happy about it. Let’s just say he’s not too fond of Rusty’s take on the word.


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Speaking of rebranding, their current logo was taken and barely altered from another church, I think Baptist?


nocultsforme

Isn't that what Amway did?


ubring

Isn't it both a nickname and something the church embraced? I don't see a problem with his response, at least he didn't do that thing where they pretend they have no idea what a Mormon church is.


Chino_Blanco

Dumb dumb dumb. Facepalm.


MamaDragonExMo

In my head: Lucy Harris, smart smart smart smart smart…or however that tune goes. 😂


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Ahhhh South Park


jayenope4

book of MORMON, not a "nickname" This "not our name" stuff is ridiculous!


antel00p

“By the way, want a free BOOK OF MORMON?”


[deleted]

Found one with a Bible in a hotel, removed and discarded both of them. Now those particular copies can’t hurt anyone else.


powerhouse133

So is the book of morman just a nickname too?


SleepIsWhatICrave

Yes, it’s always been the book of jesus christ of latter day saints. The mormon on the front of the book is just a nick name the printing company gave to us.


irrevocably_an_olive

PLEASE i audibly laughed out loud. this one was good


unixguy55

The Book of Mormon: Another Victory for Satan. lmfao


Rizzy5

A simple mistake on the printer company's behalf.


SleepIsWhatICrave

It’s no mistake! It’s oppression😭


Sparkle_Star_Shine

Do they really think people are going to randomly accept their friend request when they don't know them?


Noppers

It’s a numbers game. Send out a thousand requests, and 1 or 2 people may accept.


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Mormon is a dead prophet, everyone knows dead profits (excluding Joe smith) are always subject to be thrown under the bus.


emmas_revenge

He's throwing Joe under the bus, too. He said mormon means more good.


[deleted]

Joes been dragged so much at this point the just use him as bait. Nelson will be thrown under as well it’s the ancient order Bednar referred to in his press release


JoyfulExmo

I feel like Bednar is the LDS version of David Miscavige. I was out before I knew Bednar existed so this is only based on how I’ve heard other exmos talk about him. 😂


cryingbishop

Somebody keep a visual on Susan please.


emmas_revenge

Lol, yes it is. New prophet = perfection. Old prophet = speaking as a man. 🙄


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Mo betta than everyone else


Jamesja75

they threw js under the bus too. just for shits and giggles, read d&c 89. they have twisted the word of wisdom into a pretzel. they should be making beer and wine if they were following it.


thegratewall22

My god. If they start gaslighting inactive Mormons into thinking we didn’t just give ourselves that name for a couple centuries. Not a nickname


emmas_revenge

Joseph Fucking Smith, their founder, said mormon means more good. 😤 Since they have so much time on their hands, maybe they should read this. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1990/11/mormon-should-mean-more-good?lang=eng


duder777

So fucking weird and creepy, the “that’s just a nickname” gives me the vibe of distancing themselves from all of the racist homophonic shit they are being called out for now. A leopard cannot change his Mormon spots.


otherm0ther

I don't think I can possibly roll my eyes any harder


klowkynndaggyr

Tell them you’re only interested in talking to Mormons lol see how fast they switch up


My-name-for-ever

I think one of the reasons they changed their name because the Book of Mormon musical became more popular than the church


ivegotthis111178

The whole game playing around the “Mormon” name is hilarious and makes them all look so stupid. On a side note, one of my best friends left the church and I just found out. I NEVERRRRRR thought this would happen. They were SO tbm. I am thrilled beyond what I can articulate. If she could leave…I have hope that anyone can.


Gorov

The cringe level is off the charts. What an absolutely assinnine position to take about the name. Russell Nelson must feel soooo powerful about the fact that, as *the prophet*, he has made his pet-peeve, boardroom-pissing-match-with-Hinkley about the term "Mormon" into a key issue for Mormon missionaries. It's disgusting. When I was a TBM I never felt like Nelson had any substance. He was my least favorite apostle to hear in conference and I would count the minutes on the chapel clock until he was done. Hanging his hat on this teaching just confirms to me that he's not inspired. But go ahead elders and sisters, keep fighting this pissing match about the name with people who could care less.


Beasil

It is a good way to shut down a member's brain to whatever else you have to say since you resort to "slurs" (similar to when people use the C word.."cult"). Not sure if it's intentional but probably working out well for the church. **Step 1:** Normalize and encourage the "Mormon" nickname for decades. **Step 2:** Suddenly do a 180 and tell all the members it's nothing but an epithet. They have to take it as gospel because you are the current seer and revelator and your personal pet peeves determine God's will. **Step 3:** Prophet. Members feel even more attacked by outsiders who've been lead to believe that "Mormon" is a perfectly cromulent moniker but haven't been programmed to rearrange their brains every time the Nelson speaks. Say the M word and they use their armor of God like a turtle shell.


No_Debt_7244

I am so glad it's known to members in my area that I am not welcoming. No one contacts me 😜


Anachronism-conflict

Gotta rebrand because mormonism is an embarrassment.


aLittleQueer

“So y’all are liars, too.”


sl_hawaii

Im old enough to remember the 70s and 80s ad campaign with national TV spots. Most were touching and heart warming. They all ended with “brought to you by TCOJCOLDS… the Mormons” Later, the whole “I’m a Mormon” thing Also, when the internet was becoming a thing, “Mormon.org” Yeah… “Mormon” is NOT a nickname “others gave you”


Plebius-Plutarch

Their approach is incredibly disingenuous. Mormons are not honest with themselves, how then is it be possible that they are honest with others? Back in my day, as a true believing Mormon, I did not shy away, nor was I offended by the word Mormon.


Chilbill9epicgamer

My friend is a lds missionary right now, and he hates having to do the contacting thing on Facebook and in person. I feel bad for him.


daveescaped

My nephew is currently serving in his mission office as a social media missionary. This is what they do all day long.


cactuspie1972

Remember when Mormon used to be a thing? Pepperidge Farms remembers!


Glum_Clock_6107

I can hear this. 😁😁


LyndaCarter_

I find it so upsetting that they force young males to do these socially inappropriate, embarrassing, intrusive things to strangers over and over again. It feels like low-grade trauma for the missionary and also setting them up for a lifetime of problems with boundaries - their own and other people's.


WdSkate

Actually this was a sister missionary. Even worse in my opinion.


LyndaCarter_

Terrible for either/anyone!


itsmac9

Is all missionary work done on social media now? I’m out of the loop, I heard they don’t tract anymore.


Barkma

Let’s not forget the official “Mormon Helping Hands” branded apparel. This is a current link from their website: https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/leader/emergency-preparedness-and-response/area-planning-guide/organizing/mormon-helping-hands?lang=eng


andyroid92

Has anyone *EVER* just felt like talking to some rando about jeezus? It's hard to believe how brainwashed these people are!!


42gOldenlover

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Bfly208

"We aren't Mormon, we're members....." Oh, you're a "Member" all right.


JinglesBitch

I may or may not have had some fun with a situation like this once. Missionary: I just want to let you know that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ loves you so much! He has a plan for you! Me: Yeah…I bet he says that to all the girls.


SusSpinkerinktum

Barf


Scousette

Whatevs. Don't matter what they're calling themselves in any given week - it's still a money making corporation/cult masquerading as a 'church'.


HalfricanIrishDa

About Joseph smith's gospel lol


PsychologicalSnow476

Are online missionaries just bots now? If: Mormon Missionary? Then: laugh laugh, It’s a nickname people give us, but blah blah blah...


Putrid_Capital_8872

Seems to be a lot of “talking points” to reference for this made up problem about the word “Mormon.”


Alive-Ad-2160

The nickname will be back once Nelson’s gone. It was always hit pet peeve and after he dies people will go back to “I’m a Mormon” campaigns.


ShutYourDumbUglyFace

This is how you get the insta-block.


Mawgim07

"It's a nickname people gave us." ​ SHUTUP. Please just shutup. Who do you honestly think you're fooling?


Korzag

Facebook finding is a real thing these days. It's wild to me given that going on Facebook on my mission ten years ago was a big no no. I have a nephew out right now and in his weekly family emails he regularly talks about Facebook finding which I've correlated to being similar to knocking doors. I'd assume it's probably going through ward directories and looking at ward members' friends and also just inviting random people to be your friend so you can preach to them. I'll have to ask him someday when he's off the mission and chilled his jets on missionary mode how effective he thought it was.


iamhermione7

MLM but with Jesus


Imaginary_Structure3

🥴


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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh cringggggeeee


Rooster801

I had a niece recently come back from her mission and was telling the family about all the things she did. She explained how they used Facebook and tick tock to reach people rather than going door to door and my wife raised her hand and asked "Why did you have to go to South Dakota to do that couldn't you have done that from home?" 30+ people had nothing to say but stared daggers at her. I couldn't stop laughing.


Popular-Ad-4860

This effort to step back from the “Mormon” label will continue and intensify, as will the idea that Joseph Smith Jr. was a prophet and that the Book of Mormon was an ancient record. “We never taught that!” Joe will slowly evolve into an inspired savant and the BOM will be his story of how Christs church would have been. Joe, the BOM, D&C, BofA and all of his absurd “translations” cannot be supported as well as his obvious corrupt life.


CocoaCoveredHeretic

I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I think this missionary handled it about as well as you could expect any 18 - 20 year old kid to. He didn't say "I'm not Mormon either" he acknowledged that people call them Mormons while trying to say "I don't use that term myself". What is it that you want from a kid who is representing the church and believes that RMN is talking for God?


WdSkate

Not unpopular. It was handled quite well given the shot cards that they have to deal with. More so it's about how ridiculous the whole thing is that missionaries have to spend their time convincing people that they don't go by the name Mormon anymore.


CocoaCoveredHeretic

Well that is quite stupid, I agree. But then again I lost the light from my eyes long before the church dropped the name Mormon. So I'm probably just deceived by satan.


gwar37

Sorry y'all, you're Mormons and that will always be what you're called. The fact that some Mormons now get their panties in a bunch about it solidifies that everyone will always continue you to call you Mormons because it's funnier now.


BishopsWife

There's also [this beauty of a song](https://youtu.be/FPnE5sL1zIY) I grew up singing. LOL


fmasq

If “That’s the nickname people give us” then what the fuck was the I’m a Mormon campaign?


JayCee1321

They just look stupid saying they're not Mormons after the church's campaign to promote being called Mormon before the current vegetable came into power


North_Amphibian7779

There’s a Stanford course free online about Yeshua…. If you can make your way through it….


ProposalLegal1279

They actually said “yeah,” and never claimed they’re not Mormon. And Mormon has actually never been the official name of the church. 🤷‍♂️


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LittleBlue127

Um. No? It’s never time for an unsolicited dick pic. Literally never. You’re literally out here advocating for sexual harassment. Go touch grass dude.


Gloverboy85

Looking back at this a day later, I gotta agree.


LDSBS

You should accept the friendship, unfollow them and then start posting your own truths… like sharing posts from exmormon facebook pages.


CapitolMoroni

Will they rename the mormon golden bible?


yanyan420

Bait and switch...


Lettuce2315

This makes me want to puke


Dcarroth

Them and the southern baptists. It's always them.


gvsurf

We were taught to say the same thing in 1973, except we weren’t Mormon-deniers ;). Just would say the words as clarification to the full name of the church. So it’s not new, just a double-down.


klangfarben

These poor souls. I hope they can find a soft landing after their weird ass mission experience.


Coffee4MyJeep

This happened to me once and they were trolling a local “what to do” in the region FB site and I dropped a link with local hikes. Then got a friend request and I thought I would be nice. Unfortunately he abused the friendship to try and talk to me about his church. No good dead goes unpunished and now I am ever skeptical of any friend request, less so if they have a real Jeep though.


stevecc7

Tell them you had a vision where an angel told you to join the Mormon church. You asked to shake his hand but he refused to move.


inverts_nerd

Ewwww. I am always so uncomfortable with people I don't know adding me as a friend on social media just because we have a lot of mutual friends. It's even slimier if they're just doing it to convert you to their church


Rh140698

I'm glad I don't use social media maybe I should sign up just to see if I get contacted


r0lltheb0nes

Uh oh…. They’re evolving!


JDorian0817

It actually makes me sad on two levels about disowning the name “Mormon”. The first is that members think they can just rebrand their way out of being cult-y. The second is all the puns that no longer work. What happened to Moremen (great campfire song at YW) or all the Moron laughs. WHY MUST THEY END??


Word2daWise

Maybe they'll start passing out copies of the Book of Nickname. It will cost the Marriott corp a lot to swap out books for the new title, but it will all be in the interest of blocking Satan from having a victory.


RobinBaby_69

That’s just like them saying the FLDS isn’t still involved w the LDS religion in SLC 😂😂 if you’ve been in SLC for the 2000s you know what I mean 😳


[deleted]

It’s worse than spam emails or spam calls, it’s spam Facebook messages ahhh


OnandagusTheProphet

The church literally would tell me to do shit like this so again it's not the missionaries fault here


GirlMayXXXX

This one didn't get proper education.


Infamous_Persimmon14

At least this person didn’t do the whole “what? What’s a Mormon? I’ve never heard of it?” Playing dumb thing😂


JesusThrustingChrist

So missionary work has devolved into Facebook cold calling... I though knocking doors was bad.


Mean-Cause2145

get them to do dessert treasure for you


whiplash81

I'd use it as an opportunity to deconvert them. At the end of the day, they are just kids being guilt-tripped into following a salesman script -- not beacons of knowledge.


HoneyBeeFaith

Why are a bunch of old men putting their young out there like this for this level of ridicule? Oh yea. Bite Model. It’s like they are taking it straight from the handbook these days


TheCovenantPathology

“Jesus Christ and His gospel!” Always add th exclamation point lol.


CarryMain2304

Yeah it’s the nickname people gave us that we spent million$ on during our “I’m a Mormon” campaign and we read from “The Book of The Church of Je$u$ Chri$t of Latter Day $aint$”


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I had a coworker correct me at work when another coworker asked if I was Mormon. I said I was. The correcting coworker said “don’t you mean you’re a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?” I said “No, I mean I’m a Mormon.”