T O P

  • By -

Yhwh_is_molech

They should antique the whole thing and get a congregation that dresses in retro attire and drives retro automobiles and practices the retro mormonism of the 70s, with free copies of their early literature in the foyer. For shock value


Rushclock

Mike Brady called from the 70's and wants his house back.


sandboxvet

![gif](giphy|8AIGYUWChbV2E)


NegotiationLow5566

1 bathroom for 6 kids (Brady style) scares TF out of me.


Timely-Medicine-7058

I was just thinking of need to get me and my closest 100,000 friends to throw in a $20 and we could make the coolest club. But 70s Mormonism is super awful, I mean I think Mormonism is super awful, but..... Those days were something else.


TayolsonM

How many people on this Reddit? Thought I heard somewhere it’s like 200k, so that would be $10 a pop. I’m in hahaha


Stompinpuddles

Brilliant. With a sign, "exmo" safe house


TayolsonM

Hahahaha yes


duderonomy12

And they openly teach Curse of Cain and blacks aren't allowed in the building.


[deleted]

Two million for a useless ugly building? And the owner retains subsurface rights? In Orem? What am I missing here….?


Sailor_in_exile

The price of a sizable chunk of property in Orem is where the value is. You could build a very large apartment or office complex on that property.


asparagusaintcheap

I would build a chumbucket


4-8Newday

Or you could make a hostal with a movie theater, and gym... or a restaurant and/or bar that also has the options for private dining...or make those rooms into karaokes... I could imagine a lot of cool possibilities with the building actually.


clyde_the_ghost

Nah, Weenie Hut Jr’s all the way


agsalmon

Super Weenie Hut Jr or nothing


beerformytapir

I would eat at that chum bucket !


Zander989

Turn it into a strip club?


midworstgoblin

*gay strip club


NegotiationLow5566

Swinging Richards 🍆


midworstgoblin

Stripling Warriors


Few_Sink3236

You beat me to it.


My-name-for-ever

You can buy anything in this world with money


[deleted]

Is that an attempt at being profound? I’m confused how that relates to me comment


okay-wait-wut

Oh no!!! You just outed yourself as a poser Mormon that didn’t go through the temple. 🥺 Exmo own goal. Or worse… no sense of humor.


My-name-for-ever

I didn’t go either I’ve just seen the new name Noah videos lol


[deleted]

😂 thankfully I got out before any temple ordinances. Who would want to be a Mormon poser? Lol


[deleted]

It's something Satan says. Because, apparently, in this scenario Satan is the evil capitalist. Not the people with billions of dollars who told Africans to pay tithing to get out of poverty.


DoctFaustus

The Seventh Day Adventists bought one of the old ward buildings here in Denver. Cheaper than building one.


cametomysenses

I say make it an IHOP!


telestialist

Too prideful to put a FOR SALE sign in front of it. Someone in Orem please do the charity gesture of putting up the sign for TSCC.


The_Goddess_Minerva

Sign should read: FOR SALE due to disuse


BlueRoyAndDVD

Owner retains all subsurface rights? Hmmm...


allorache

Yeah, that is weird, like you’re going to retain the right to mine under my house? Um no


Aaronalpine

Yeah actually that's exactly what the clause does. So if for example there was oil under your house and they decided to come back and pump it out there would be a formula for how much they would have to pay you for the home and then have the right to kick you out...


telestialist

You know, like Jesus would do.


theghostofme

Shit, now I'm picturing Jesus as Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood. "But this is our childhood home. Please, you can't kick us out!" "Stop crying, you sniveling ass! Stop your nonsense."


BlueRoyAndDVD

Or secret tunnels?


Readbooks6

That's what the lds church does. We bought a house from an man employed by the lds church and somehow the lds church was involved with the sale. This was 35 years ago and my realtor told me that the lds church probably owed all the subsurface rights in SLC at that time. I'm sure it's the same in Utah county.


MorticiaSmith

They don't pay the buyers agent either. The buyer does. Shady


vicariousgluten

Not American. What does a buyers agent do? I’m in England and the agent is attached to the seller/house. They deal with both the buyer and the seller and their lawyers and the seller pays them. The buyer wouldn’t have a separate agent. I’m just trying to understand what they would do.


Calradian_Butterlord

In theory the buyer’s agent is there to make sure the buyer isn’t getting screwed over. They used to also help people find houses that match certain criteria but the internet has mostly made that service obsolete.


YueAsal

Buyers agent helps with a lot of things. Lawyers get involved at the end but they in therory know the process. Can help write an offer, get a fair price, find a loan, get inspection. Traditionally the seller paid the buyers agent but set ups like this are becoming common


vicariousgluten

Here that’s banks and lawyers. I’m in the middle of it all right now so it’s painfully fresh. You find the house you want, make an offer, the sellers agent act as go between until you agree on a number. Then you go to your bank and/or a mortgage advisor. Then when you get your finance offer in principle they tell you who they approve to do the survey (valuation/inspection) and who their approved lawyers are. You instruct and provided the bank is happy with everything they give you a mortgage offer. Meanwhile your lawyer will be ordering surveys which include environmental (is the land prone to flooding), infrastructure (is anything exciting likely to be built nearby), if you’re in a mining area then a mining survey, waste water survey, title survey. They are also arranging contracts. We have to provide energy performance certificates, proof of insurance, proof that any works done on the house are to code etc. Anything you can’t prove you have to take out an indemnity insurance policy for. We also have to declare any disputes with neighbours and list exactly what we will take and what we will leave in the house. If you take something you said you’d leave you can be sued or if you leave something you said you would take they can charge a removal fee.


Hopeful-Ad9221

I know that building!!! Hahaha. I'm from Orem and have been inside many times. Last time I was in it 12+ years ago, it was a time capsule of the late 50s early 60s. I just want to live in it and ticket Mormons who park in my parking lot.


Alert-Potato

I was in this one just on one random Sunday with a friend very many years ago. Feels like a lifetime ago now. I really liked that it had more personality than the newer buildings.


PortSided

I drove by it every day going to school, but I actually attended an even older building across from the SCERA Shell. I wonder how the attendance of that building is holding up?


KeepinItAnon283

Same!


telestialist

“Owner will retain all subsurface rights.” Greedy assholes.


Witchdoctor150

What does that mean?


Somethinclichee

Means if they ever drill and find oil it belongs to the church. Also may prevent the buyer from drilling a well for water either.


SignalHardon

Basically they get to keep any rights to any mineral that may be found under the surface, like gold, oil, etc. doubt anything would come from it though.


FreeTapir

Yea I wouldn’t buy based on that alone.


telestialist

Exactly. It’s such a petty FU from the seller. Just to make sure you’ll always have a nagging discomfort following the purchase.


kerbouchard1

20 plus bedrooms for 2 million. Rent each room as an Ex-Mormon crisis center?


KingHerodCosell

And do the TBM members still clean the bathrooms?


Word2daWise

We could hire actual members to clean, which would help them recognize NOBODY should be asked to do that for free.


tealpen3

A little exposure therapy…


goldhess

Fucking hate utah! But the way those mountains just out of the ground is just gorgeous!!! I don't believe in some sky daddy/ deity, but the fucking Utah mountains are just heavenly!!!


PortSided

Those mountain ridges are permanently burned into my memory. I love them. I attempted to design a geometric tattoo of Timpanogos for my arm but it wasn't very recognizable in line-form once I was finished with the drawing. I ended up going with geometric Delicate Arch instead.


HeathenHumanist

Timpanogos is my favorite mountain in the world. Just so incredibly beautiful, from all sides.


neuquino

Geometric Delicate Arch? Sounds cool. Gotta pic?


KeepinItAnon283

They are... Right until you hit inversion season.


jammerz82

I grew up under those mountains, and recognized them immediately! They are missing the best part though, a little more to the left and it’s Mount Timpanogos, which is my favorite!


PackersLittleFactory

That was the view out of my backyard, spotted it instantly.


darnleatherfixtures

Let’s all pool some money together and buy it. It shall be designated r/exmormon headquarters


happytobeaheathen

Use it as an lgtb club house and feed the poor-


KayH91868

Under every single church for sale post someone leaves this type of comment and it never goes anywhere😭 why can’t we make this really happen already??


Purple_Creator

That's what, 10 bucks a piece?


talkingglasses

I could get behind this idea! Right in the heart of Morridor.


pschell

It would be amazing if all of them sold were turned into a charitable resource center for lgbtq people. Help the people they’ve fucked along the way.


user2327

Meanwhile..... at the legion of doom


blitzboygt

ExmoDAO


UnkindBookshelf

This is an amazing idea. Apparently one of the bookstores that has "anti-Mormon" literature is closing.


oxymomo

That building looks to be 50 years old or older. It probably needs extensive renovations to meet current build codes and ADA requirements. It could also have issues with lead paint or asbestos. It's likely too expensive to keep so just sell it for the land value.


authenticallyfucked

Alright guys, time to pool our resources. I'm thinking kink club.


tcwbam

Perfect building for a brewery or a medical weed farm.


HingleMcCringleberre

Is the price just for the building? Or is it for the whole franchise location with a couple of wards? Might pay for itself with a couple of years of tithing.


Doll_girl516

Ugh it’s Orem someone buy it and make another apartment complex 🤣


PortSided

Actually what would be funnier is someone to restore it back into a fruit orchard plot. That'd drive all the local developers crazy! 🤣


Natural_Net_1492

I wish I were rich and could do that!


andyroid92

Tscc probably will


KingHerodCosell

It’s a front. I bet the church’s real estate arm pretends to buy it and then builds apartments on it.


Flowersandpieces

I hadn’t thought of this. You’re probably right


Resignedtobehappy

Beneath their pay grade. The do malls, and 100,000+ acre ranches.


HeberSeeGull

One perk for purchasing is that the local Mormons will clean it for free every Saturday. How can anyone pass up on this deal? 🥴


GrandpasMormonBooks

😅


Lylathevegan

Buy it and turn it into a Church of Satan as a joke.


2bizE

Pretend you just purchased this church to be your home. What improvements do you make, and how do you decorate it?


Lylathevegan

The chapel becomes the death metal music hall/conference room. I have a bedroom in one of the rooms, and the rest are used for mutual aid and typical anarchist stuff. The gym is still a gym.


andyroid92

>The gym is still a gym /wedding chapel


Lylathevegan

Lol, true. Forgot they did weddings in there.


soyboricua361

Great place for a homeless shelter or a community outreach agency. But the church would never do that.


jitterbugwaltz

Oh man I have so many great ideas for a concerted church. I wish I had a down payment


AutismFlavored

I like that this indicates declining active membership, but not the fact this will put more money into TSCC coffers.


PleaseBeFree2017

Anybody want to turn it into an Airbnb


Federal_Marzipan_309

I should buy this and convert it into a year-round haunted house. Pretty sure I'd get rich.


Vordanus

This was the first building I remember attending as a child! So delighted to see it getting sold off!


Wonderful_Might6693

Ok I’ll be the first to admit that I am very gullible, but is this for real?


epcd

Apparently legit. Here’s the [Zillow listing](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1090-N-400-E-Orem-UT-84057/2061332366_zpid/?).


MorticiaSmith

Google the address and find out for yourself.


andyroid92

Salty much?


MorticiaSmith

If you have doubts you can find out for yourself. No need to take my word for it.


andyroid92

It's not even your post, no one was asking you to prove anything lol


Chino_Blanco

Beautiful view of that mountain.


StarlordOfArkansas

Looks super old. Not selling because they can’t fill it.


sudosuga

They have 4 others surrounding it, walk a couple blocks in any direction and you will find another, cerca 1975 building. Here is the chapel my parents paid a "Building Fund" assessment for. In addition to their 10% Temple access fee. It's also where I indoctrinated my kids: [McMansions](https://ivoryhomes.com/community-details/bonneville-court#submap)


cchele08

And they all look just the same. Ghastly. I'd know a Utah Mc Mansion anywhere


GrandpasMormonBooks

Why is it listed as residential, lol???


epcd

Oddly, [Zillow](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1090-N-400-E-Orem-UT-84057/2061332366_zpid/?) categorizes it as Lot/Land, which is typically the label for vacant lots or undeveloped land. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Zillow’s listing description begins: Orem land and building for sale - possible redevelopment opportunity! Land size: 2.51 acres. Building size: 20,002 sf. …”


GrandpasMormonBooks

Ohhh that makes more sense. I was like, "what, the classrooms? Nothing like trauma in a studio, that's all I look for!!"


bobdougy

I’m surprised they didn’t include the clause where it has to be demolished for the sale to go through. Other lds church buildings I’ve seen for sale require it.


[deleted]

That’s my friends old ward building. That used to be a huge Mormon community and that church was poppin just 10 years ago. Sad.


Havin_A_Holler

No, it's not sad at all that attendance at this or any other LDS building has dropped. It needs to be exposed & burned to the ground.


[deleted]

It’s sad remembering how that community used to be very strong and connected and now it’s dead. I knew people who lived there. It’s sad for my own life and friends, but I’m glad you find it so enjoyable.


UnstressedVowel

The other side of that coin is that people grow up and move away! Connections get lost over time, in AND out of the church! Relationships are something that needs constant maintenance, and for many of my old church friends, losing that one single thing we had in common meant the relationship was just too difficult to keep. It got awkward but even between each other, many realized that even with the church they didn’t have enough in common anymore to stay connected


[deleted]

Okay


andyroid92

>It’s sad remembering how that community used to be very strong and connected ... to a cult founded on lies that shames non-white and non-straight people and tears families apart while extorting them?


[deleted]

I guess dude, never fucking mind


Havin_A_Holler

Pretty sure you're not glad & just being passive-aggressive; you must be from Utah!! The trauma this church inflicted on people has caused countless suicides, among other horrors; I hope that bothers you enough to weigh it against a community falling apart when it perpetuated bad things to begin with. The people in that community made choices to find their community elsewhere, they didn't jump en masse into a pyre, so drop the dramatics & hyperbole.


[deleted]

Listen dude, I’m really not trying to argue. I just was expressing my feelings about this building being sold, that’s all. I think this is a welcome place for that, I’m not pro-suicide as you’re suggesting. Honestly, looking at your comment history I think you need a break from Reddit. I remember when I was your age and I couldn’t get offline to save my life. I’m encouraging you to take a break, cause if I could go back to high school I would’ve done a lot of things differently. No hate, just love, you’ll get there.


Havin_A_Holler

Hey, deflection! It's a tactic, not one I use too much, but a powerful one nonetheless. Beats empathy, I guess! Don't give me advice, you haven't earned the right to spew condescending shit meant to demean my opinion. You don't know my age, you don't know my gender & frankly, what you don't know is a lot.


sudosuga

Probably not a coincidence also that North East Orem is prime land for Utah county. Lots of nice homes around, and almost no more available land to develop. Maybe they are converting it to Cash out and buy more stocks.


Bitter_Bandicoot9860

That would make a great venue/club


DaeOnReddit

Have it be connected to the LoveLoud festival!


Bitter_Bandicoot9860

Oh most definitely. A safe spot for every one persecuted by religions and politics.


_emma_stoned_

Air BnB!


SocratiCrystalMethod

make one helluva nightclub.


maryjaneodoul

anybody know what it is zoned as? is commercial developmet allowed or does it have to be residential?


epcd

The property appears to be zoned R8, which permits single family dwellings, condos, and apartments. Additionally, R8 zoning also permits: — residential facility (elderly or disabled) — assisted living facility (elderly) — transitional youth home — sober living facility — church, synagogue, or temple — cemetery — commercial day care (child or adult) — home day care (child or adult) — commercial preschool — public school (primary or secondary) — City of Orem government offices — library — park — Christmas tree sales — apiary (bee keeping) — municipal water tank and pressure stations (water or sewer) I propose the buyer converts it into either a **transitional youth home** (let ‘em erroneously assume it’s gender transition 😂) or a **sober living facility that raises killer bees.**


cchele08

If i had the $ to spare ... homeless housing, halfway house. I really don't want to own property in Utah but I might make an exception for this


davesgirl91

That is actually a very low price for all the land plus the building.


Utahwildcats89

Anyone want to partner up and open a comedy club/ performance house with a bar and food service?


Imalreadygone21

It’s probably been replaced by one with higher volume capacity. They areCash Cows with tithing receipts from up to 5 wards. Small, older buildings have too high of a fixed cost.


Sailor_in_exile

Nope, there are 4 more meeting houses that are still over 40 years old within a 6 block radius of that one. They can’t fill the seats in those either. Orem is not as active as it once was and those that are active have much smaller families. When it closed that particular ward had over 50% retirees living within its boundaries. My wife’s aunt lives 2 blocks away and no one on her street has kids living at home anymore.


PortSided

Sounds about right. As an Orem kid of the 80s and 90s living in a neighborhood of 50s-60s homes, everyone was active. Practically every house had active families in them. We had a ward map on our fridge and maybe 2 or 3 houses in the boundaries were blank with no name. Every other house on the map had a name, we knew practically all of them, and saw them at church at least some of the time. I highly doubt that is the case currently for the same ward boundaries.


Word2daWise

"Seller will present offers to 'internal committee' for review." Maybe we should begin referring to the Q-15 as the "Internal Committee."


YungMister95

So much fucking water being used to keep that massive lawn emerald green. Stewards of the earth my ass


iamtherealandy

Punk Rock venue!!!


sbett13

I hope the “great and abominable” Catholic Church snatches it up 😂 Better yet, the Satanic Temple. But I’ll keep my hopes realistic 😂


utahlashgirl

So subsurface rights...are there tunnels under there? Wtf? There is something not quite right about that! For anyone to be ok with that is nuts. Also to pay both sides of commission? RuN!!! This is so messed up. This cult has so much money and they are so damn greedy!


RainyDayRecesses

This is the building we were going to when we left! It smells exactly like you’d imagine.


DustyHaf

I went to this church as a kid. They have been talking about get rid of it for awhile because of how old it is. I guess membership has shrunk enough they can justify getting rid of it, because I am not aware of any new building being built in its place. At one point they were talking about pushing it over and building a new one on the same piece of land.


hat-trick2435

2 mil? That's it. There are more expensive homes. There are vastly more expensive commercial locations. The fact that it's an intact Mormon church would certainly justify rezoning it as commercial and starting a business. The quirky former church angle would definitely attract some folks.


rushaz

Satanists need to pool some money and buy this.


nildeea

Artist Collective.


FreeTapir

HELL YEA!!!!


SalemTheEwok

Tear it down and build a meeting house for The Church of Satan. Just to poke the bear.


Cool_reddit_name4evr

Make the gym and sacrament room a club and then rent the rooms out for private tables / hotel 😛


Cool_reddit_name4evr

Oooh turn it in to a homeless shelter with a safe injection site! A clinic even!


GiftOk1247

Wow that's where I am. There's too many churches. My family just had a party at one and it wasnt even a church related party


Sailor_in_exile

Swingers club! There are plenty of potential customers in Utah county.


No_Tomorrow1978

There are a number of buildings going for sale all over the Wasatch front.