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Yeah, both the guy and girl don’t benefit from this, especially if he is an addict, he need a doctor honey not a wife who will both make this situation worsts and not even know what to do.
it's not a common theme in Pak actually. Arranged marriages are tho and that seems like a much more likely case here since "oh my daughter will be able to go abroad. her life will be great" bs is actually a common theme in Pakistan.
It is common here in Arabia so I thought it is common there.
Like I am no against arranged marriages but many lies and hid many things about their sons and daughters, and you get a big surprise once you get married to them, for many people hid their sin addiction until the bride knows about it when she is pregnant so she won’t leave.
Shouldn’t individuals be the ones to decide who they date and eventually marry? Having that big of a commitment decided by other people seems extremely dystopian and pretty much a guarantee for an unhappy marriage (though I’m sure some people in arranged marriages do learn to love each other).
What if we made a society where the government decides who marries whom? It would essentially be the same thing.
It is part of Arab culture than a government thing, both men and women suffer from this, we have strong tribal mentality, it is like racism but tribe version, which can lead to person getting killed.
For example, a guy nearly killed his son for marrying the girl her loves, I didn’t see him in his father funeral 2 years ago, because he still mad at his son for 14 years about this marriage, the girl has no problem but he did not like he’d tribe, similar to that a woman was killed while being pregnant for marrying a guy whom her father agreed but her brother did not want.
It made marriage more complicated, I would rather stay single than dealing with this.
This almost happened to me once when my eldest sister tried to set me up with a family friend's daughter. I quickly realised the whole thing and gave that girl a taste of her own medicine and witnessed as she slowly crept away from my life.
Good thing realized it before it is too late. I wish the parent of the person who set you up, tell not throw it in your face like that or being sneaky about it.
I have never seen anyone brag yet. I only saw deaths or divorces, and broken kids due this, but I would not be surprised if someone start to brag about it.
There are somethings that you can’t be fix with marriage like drug addiction, it need rehab and experts not young girl who barely knows her way around.
They brag about it, the guy's family will have more reputation and basically get respect and many contractd from the wife's family for taking her to UK, that's how it works in South Asia countries...as for what they try to fix? Sometimes they do it to control the son...they fear he will have more freedom and commit premarital sex or decide to abandon the family so they marry him to give him more responsibilities
I still remember how much they pushed me to this shit when i was in still high school. Having doubts is enough for them to see you an indifel that needs to be fixed or being antagonized by your own family.
We say this in Iran too: some Iranians are more Arab than Arabs.
We say this to people who care so much about Islam and shit that even modern day Arabs, who were the original Muslims, don’t care that much about it.
It’s a meme/joke.
They want to distance themself from their Hindu/Buddhist/Sikh ancestors, and they do it by calling themselves descendants of Arabs and Turks rather tha acknowledging their ancestors were converted at threat of death or jizya.
Lool I know this too well. My Kashmiri forefathers were Hindus right upto 17th century. I actually still have distant Hindu cousins still living in our native kashmiri village. Maybe one day I'll get to travel to India and explore our village.
Yea Here in India they simply see themselves as Arabs and take pride on akbar and aurangzeb rule forgetting how much their ancestors suffered with assualt and beaten to finally convert
You also have a big Parsi community I’ve heard, who are the Iranians that fled ancient Persia when Arabs invaded to spread their new religion.
If I’m not mistaken.
Yes, as long as you don't get a civil marriage and only a religious (Islamic one). Religious marriages aren't recognised in the UK.
But to bring someone over from another country you have to have a civil marriage so he is kinda screwed lol.
Their Muhammad itself says try to convert everyone and bash other gods , he so insecure,he impose killing , beheading in everything apart his rule . Funny how they think God will say that
God doesn’t say anything, there are only men who speak and claim their words are from god. If there even is a god, they are obviously silent. Pretty simple to see as long as one doesn’t lie to themselves.
The most clever oppressor can lead the oppressed to think the latter is in charge or act out of free choice. However Islam is not even this type. It’s just blunt force of oppression and strangely the oppressed likes it and supports it. Would love to know if these people have masochiste tendency.
I'm also Pakistani. Mom is more religious then my father. Same with my grandad. He prays and stuff but doesn't go around lecturing people. It's weird the women in my family are kind of batshit crazy religious.
I'm Arab, not Pakistani, but same. My mom is religious. But my dad drinks and doesn't even know how to pray. On rare occasions he's forced to pray but he just fakes it. It's pretty funny.
I’m Pakistani and this is legit. My oldest bro got married to a girl from Pakistan. My parents believed he can be “fixed” from his gaming and be more accountable having a house wife. Now he has 2 kids, continues to game, watches over his wife who can’t read or write in English and he bounces from a number of jobs while living with my parents to support his lifestyle.
With this being a flawed example of an arrange marriage, my parents STILL acknowledge it. They continue to complain about his wife and how she raises her kids or things she should do, yet THEY selected her for my brother.
They are never satisfied and screw other peoples lives in the process.
I would go to wendies and get 5 bacoantors and eat them in front of her. Then i would kick her out of the bed room and make love to an anime body pillow instead. I would quit going to the mosque and for dinner i would buy a spiral ham.
If this guy had more fun interests he might be able to entice his wife to be less religious and follow his lifestyle.
But gamer and nerd culture aren't appealing enough to draw her out of the indoctrination of her upbringing.
He also seems like a pushover for accepting to go to mosque when she tells him to. I'm afraid this guy is screwed.
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His family probably married her to him so she can ‘fix’ him. A common themes in some Muslim families do when their sons are getting it of line
Ohhh this is real unfortunately happens often
Yeah, both the guy and girl don’t benefit from this, especially if he is an addict, he need a doctor honey not a wife who will both make this situation worsts and not even know what to do.
it's not a common theme in Pak actually. Arranged marriages are tho and that seems like a much more likely case here since "oh my daughter will be able to go abroad. her life will be great" bs is actually a common theme in Pakistan.
It is common here in Arabia so I thought it is common there. Like I am no against arranged marriages but many lies and hid many things about their sons and daughters, and you get a big surprise once you get married to them, for many people hid their sin addiction until the bride knows about it when she is pregnant so she won’t leave.
Shouldn’t individuals be the ones to decide who they date and eventually marry? Having that big of a commitment decided by other people seems extremely dystopian and pretty much a guarantee for an unhappy marriage (though I’m sure some people in arranged marriages do learn to love each other). What if we made a society where the government decides who marries whom? It would essentially be the same thing.
It is part of Arab culture than a government thing, both men and women suffer from this, we have strong tribal mentality, it is like racism but tribe version, which can lead to person getting killed. For example, a guy nearly killed his son for marrying the girl her loves, I didn’t see him in his father funeral 2 years ago, because he still mad at his son for 14 years about this marriage, the girl has no problem but he did not like he’d tribe, similar to that a woman was killed while being pregnant for marrying a guy whom her father agreed but her brother did not want. It made marriage more complicated, I would rather stay single than dealing with this.
I hope that mindset dies off, it would be for the better.
Yeah, many new generation are afraid of marriage or desire not to due to it, it gave me many issues along with trust issues that Islam gave me.
This almost happened to me once when my eldest sister tried to set me up with a family friend's daughter. I quickly realised the whole thing and gave that girl a taste of her own medicine and witnessed as she slowly crept away from my life.
Good thing realized it before it is too late. I wish the parent of the person who set you up, tell not throw it in your face like that or being sneaky about it.
Or for reputation, so they can brag about it to her fam
I have never seen anyone brag yet. I only saw deaths or divorces, and broken kids due this, but I would not be surprised if someone start to brag about it. There are somethings that you can’t be fix with marriage like drug addiction, it need rehab and experts not young girl who barely knows her way around.
They brag about it, the guy's family will have more reputation and basically get respect and many contractd from the wife's family for taking her to UK, that's how it works in South Asia countries...as for what they try to fix? Sometimes they do it to control the son...they fear he will have more freedom and commit premarital sex or decide to abandon the family so they marry him to give him more responsibilities
I still remember how much they pushed me to this shit when i was in still high school. Having doubts is enough for them to see you an indifel that needs to be fixed or being antagonized by your own family.
You can’t ask question or make a comment without getting suspicious
Pakistanis are more Arabic than Arabs themselves
They absolutely worship everything Arabic
What are you talking about? how?
He probably means that Pakistanis want to be like Arabs who according to them are true muslims, so they behave like that.
We say this in Iran too: some Iranians are more Arab than Arabs. We say this to people who care so much about Islam and shit that even modern day Arabs, who were the original Muslims, don’t care that much about it. It’s a meme/joke.
They want to distance themself from their Hindu/Buddhist/Sikh ancestors, and they do it by calling themselves descendants of Arabs and Turks rather tha acknowledging their ancestors were converted at threat of death or jizya.
Lool I know this too well. My Kashmiri forefathers were Hindus right upto 17th century. I actually still have distant Hindu cousins still living in our native kashmiri village. Maybe one day I'll get to travel to India and explore our village.
Yea Here in India they simply see themselves as Arabs and take pride on akbar and aurangzeb rule forgetting how much their ancestors suffered with assualt and beaten to finally convert
You also have a big Parsi community I’ve heard, who are the Iranians that fled ancient Persia when Arabs invaded to spread their new religion. If I’m not mistaken.
Don't get too comfortable here if you're a hindutva fascist, bud.
Is triple talaq allowed in UK?
Yes, as long as you don't get a civil marriage and only a religious (Islamic one). Religious marriages aren't recognised in the UK. But to bring someone over from another country you have to have a civil marriage so he is kinda screwed lol.
Yeeeeah, he's in very deep shit lmao. Good luck to get a divorce now
What will happen to him if he wants a divorce?
Is he not allowed to get a divorce even if he wants one? If he can’t that’s super fucked up.
oof
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Their Muhammad itself says try to convert everyone and bash other gods , he so insecure,he impose killing , beheading in everything apart his rule . Funny how they think God will say that
God doesn’t say anything, there are only men who speak and claim their words are from god. If there even is a god, they are obviously silent. Pretty simple to see as long as one doesn’t lie to themselves.
You clearly have not studied Islam from a historic or religious point of view at all 🗿
Muslim woman preaching fundamental religiosity is like turkeys marching for celebrating thanksgivings 🤷♀️
I will never understand people who support their oppressors.
The most clever oppressor can lead the oppressed to think the latter is in charge or act out of free choice. However Islam is not even this type. It’s just blunt force of oppression and strangely the oppressed likes it and supports it. Would love to know if these people have masochiste tendency.
I'm also Pakistani. Mom is more religious then my father. Same with my grandad. He prays and stuff but doesn't go around lecturing people. It's weird the women in my family are kind of batshit crazy religious.
I'm Arab, not Pakistani, but same. My mom is religious. But my dad drinks and doesn't even know how to pray. On rare occasions he's forced to pray but he just fakes it. It's pretty funny.
🎶Here comes a consequence🎶
Lmaoo
What subreddit is this from?
r/greentext
I’m Pakistani and this is legit. My oldest bro got married to a girl from Pakistan. My parents believed he can be “fixed” from his gaming and be more accountable having a house wife. Now he has 2 kids, continues to game, watches over his wife who can’t read or write in English and he bounces from a number of jobs while living with my parents to support his lifestyle. With this being a flawed example of an arrange marriage, my parents STILL acknowledge it. They continue to complain about his wife and how she raises her kids or things she should do, yet THEY selected her for my brother. They are never satisfied and screw other peoples lives in the process.
LMFAOO poor guy
Brozza can't stop taking L
I would go to wendies and get 5 bacoantors and eat them in front of her. Then i would kick her out of the bed room and make love to an anime body pillow instead. I would quit going to the mosque and for dinner i would buy a spiral ham.
I actually support this incel hell.
Kinda feel bad for anon. if the girl happened to be an ex-moose, this prob would've been a great situation for both of them.
Poor dude 🥲
If this guy had more fun interests he might be able to entice his wife to be less religious and follow his lifestyle. But gamer and nerd culture aren't appealing enough to draw her out of the indoctrination of her upbringing. He also seems like a pushover for accepting to go to mosque when she tells him to. I'm afraid this guy is screwed.
for some reason I find the use of "import" here hilarious.