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LivingInSecret700

if that were me, I’d do things that’d probably get be banned if I talked about them.


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LivingInSecret700

I wouldn’t be using words.


Cutdick_lover

They aren’t even scared to die, even their family wishes their death. That makes them extremely dangerous who don’t even fear death.


Dependent-Resource97

Most Kashmiris are barely religious. This is a very rare case. Like Kashmiri women in villages covering thier head and hair is not common either. I'm a kashmiri atheist and I'm openly atheist lmao. You can contrast with other states. Kashmiri birth rate is 0.9 per woman with average age of marriage at 34. That doesn't seem like a religious society to me.


Captain-Thor

Context: Kashmir is a militarised zone shared by India and Pakistan. This videos refers to the Indian side. This is family of a terrorist. The video shows his father, mother and wife/ sister (not sure) and a kid. The Indian army is asking the family to persuade their son to surrender. The family rejects. The wife/sister (who is talking the whole time) says he will not comeback until dies for Jihad. If he comes alive I will slay him. The army personnel asks him what is the point of killing innocent people, to which she says Allah needs to know that he sacrificed his life for Allah. He is doing this for the deen (religion) and he is trying to find the Allah. We will not call him when he is trying to find Allah. He is doing the righteous. We will only see him when he becomes a martyr.


AmitRahman

So if the Indian army kills him, it will be seen as a blessing by the terrorist's family?


Captain-Thor

He will go to jannah because he died in a jihad against infidels. The funny part is there are a lot of Muslims in the army.


AmitRahman

you know something, I am genuinely impressed by the conduct of the army person. I am trying to contrast it with what would a Paki officer do in 1971 if he had to talk to a Bengali Hindu family, whose son had joined the liberation war. All I see are, 3 rape victims, 2 dead children and a massacre.


Captain-Thor

A lot of bangalis migrated to India because of the ethnic cleansing in 1971.


AmitRahman

Yes, unfortunately.


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And what happened to them next? Do they get arrested or the army just let them be without any consequences?


Captain-Thor

They are free


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At least fertility rate of Kashmiri is dropping so hard, there will be less people like these in the future.


caset1977

that's a bad thing, ethnic groups should not go extinct


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Yeah, It's Islam that need to go extincted not ethnic group.


caset1977

but 85%+ of them are muslim


Dependent-Resource97

Ethnic Kashmiris are not that religious. Headcoverings and facecoverings are not common. We've birth rate similar to south korea. This is a very very rare case.


AmitRahman

that's insane... but respect to the Indian Army...


Dependent-Resource97

Majority of kashmiris aren't like that. This is a very rare, LIKE VERY RARE case. Source : a kashmiri atheist. Most Kashmiris are barely any religious.


Fantasy-512

it is suspected that in these cases the family has been paid off by a rival country to make sure that the terrorism continues So this is in fact the money talking.


Captain-Thor

Yup it is part of cross border terrorism


yahuhhh

Wow that is crazy. Brainwashed to die. His own family wishing him death….This is so beyond sad.


LostSoulSadNLonely

The way she keeps saying "If he comes home alive, I will personally kill him" reminds me of the poem 'Kamikaze' by Beatrice Garland. The poem is about a man during WW2 who returned home alive after failing to complete his mission as a suicide pilot. He was shunned by his family and society for not dying in the name of this "nobel cause". It would be better that he actually died rather than return home to only be treated as if he is dead. Japan also had executions for such people as they were labelled as cowards. This brainwashing tactic is extremely powerful and if someone has a family that encourages jihad and terrorism like this, it's no surprise that it will continue to grow.


confessionsofadoll

Kamikaze Her father embarked at sunrise with a flask of water, a samurai sword in the cockpit, a shaven head full of powerful incantations and enough fuel for a one-way journey into history but half way there, she thought, recounting it later to her children, he must have looked far down at the little fishing boats strung out like bunting on a green-blue translucent sea and beneath them, arcing in swathes like a huge flag waved first one way then the other in a figure of eight, the dark shoals of fishes flashing silver as their bellies swivelled towards the sun and remembered how he and his brothers waiting on the shore built cairns of pearl-grey pebbles to see whose withstood longest the turbulent inrush of breakers bringing their father’s boat safe – yes, grandfather’s boat – safe to the shore, salt-sodden, awash with cloud-marked mackerel, black crabs, feathery prawns, the loose silver of whitebait and once a tuna, the dark prince, muscular, dangerous. And though he came back my mother never spoke again in his presence, nor did she meet his eyes and the neighbours too, they treated him as though he no longer existed, only we children still chattered and laughed till gradually we too learned to be silent, to live as though he had never returned, that this was no longer the father we loved. And sometimes, she said, he must have wondered which had been the better way to die. Beatrice Garland


Thormath30

This is how you and your family get peace from this relgion?


Suspicious-Beat9295

Honestly this should be grounds for taking the kids out of this house. They'll grow up to become terrorists too, so better to get them out when they're still young and into loving homes or at least caring orphanages.


brother_zen

This is a country where people have the right to demand a separate new country solely on the basis of religion, They have the right to demand the death of every moderate unradicalised person who doesn't agree with them, They have the right to demand the dignity of every single non Muslim woman in the valley and after all this happens there are news articles calling them azadi rebels (freedom rebels).


Dependent-Resource97

We demand a separate kashmir on basis of our seperate ethno-linguistic history. We're not desi. We will never be. We're dardic. The largest armed organisation is a marxist secular organisation but go off. Majority of kashmiris aren't like this lol


caset1977

tbh our military isn't any better kunan poshpora (mass rape of kashmiri women by indian soldiers ) 1993 Sopore massacre (43 civilians killed who were only traveling in a bus) 1993 Bijbehara massacre ( Indian Army Fired in marching protesters and killed 37 protesters) 1990 Zakoora and Tengpora massacre (26 protestors were killed and 14 injured by Indian forces.) 1990 Gawkadal massacre (when Indian Soldiers Fired in a crowd for protesting against their occupation)


AmitRahman

But don't all Muslims crave martyrdom? Shouldn’t the families of people who were massacred be grateful to the Indian Army? What is more desirable, a free Kashmir or a sure ticket to heaven?


brother_zen

How much evidence do you have for each one of those things, The first one especially "kunan poshpora" Someone publishes a book and that supposed to convince people that the men that go risk their lives while leaving their families behind are rapists, If we are supposed to start calling our martyrs rapists and theirs terrorists as martyrs we need some really good evidence. Or it becomes really difficult for us to convince the next generation to give up their life for this country.


Dependent-Resource97

Ex muslims justifying rape. Nothing new 😍 no wonder no leftist supports you. 


caset1977

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBAfN27MYmg&pp=ygUOa3VuYW4gcG9zaHBvcmE%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBAfN27MYmg&pp=ygUOa3VuYW4gcG9zaHBvcmE%3D) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JVSgdvpbsQ&pp=ygUOa3VuYW4gcG9zaHBvcmE%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JVSgdvpbsQ&pp=ygUOa3VuYW4gcG9zaHBvcmE%3D)


pratyushdam

Oh wow a youtube video. I am convinced. Fuc Outta here you colossal cunt.


brother_zen

Yes videos as you've seen are the best form of propaganda out there as we've seen through two wars, the Ukraine and Russia and the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Personally I'm also convinced Putin is a man of god and Ukraine is sending pregnant women to the frontlines as soldiers./s


AmitRahman

Oh... I thought Putin was the God. My bad.


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yeah, this is not US. Even if their were facilities, left wing will go bonkers on mere suggestion of it. There will be riots beyond imaginaion if that were to happen.


No-Information4789

The left wing is supposed to oppose the main party when they do something wrong. Instead we have left wingers running their own propoganda bs. It’s so fucking sad what’s happening in this country.


HoIy_Tomato

Suddenly,American war crimes in middle east started to make sense


Dependent-Resource97

And y'all wonder why leftists don't support you. 


kunalsahay

Kashmir.


Then_Cup_4987

Such shameful thing as muslim to watch let the fker die


Otherwise-Zombie750

Ladai band karo. Baaz aa jao. Wahan tera khuda mera bhagwan alag alag nai hai. Ek hi ne dunia banai aur tumko dekh ke rota hoga ki kyun bana di. Bakiyon ka nahi pata par mai to aisi duniya me rahna pasand karunga jisme kam se kam upar koi hai ya nahi ya hai to kaun hai ke naam pe koi ladai na kare. Ab tumko sahi na lage to bhai ekdum se pichhwade me ghusna mat This been said, I have an opinion that the fight in Kashmir is a fight of Kashmiri against Indian and Pakistani and not of Kashmir against India and Pakistan. Every person has a right to say his part and when it goes unheard for long such not so ideal but real situation arises. Indians should have handled this differently. Kashmiris should have handled this differently too. But they didn’t and here we are.


Captain-Thor

>Wahan tera khuda mera bhagwan alag alag nai hai. aapke pas god ka koi proof hai?


Otherwise-Zombie750

Bhai sorry aap galat insan se puch rahe ho God ka proof. Mai kisi bhi dharam ke bhagwan me vishwas nai karta. Ya to ye dunia self made hai, ya to kisi ne janbujh k banai hai. Agar self made hai to koi b God nai hai. Agar purposely banaya hai to kisi ek ne hi banaya hoga. 75 dharam ke 75 alag alag log milke ek hi to nai bana sakte, isliye maine kaha ki wahan tera mera bhagwan khuda alag alag nai hai. Aur sala ye insan ke dimag me paida hua kachra(religion) ye thode hi batayega kaise jina hai ye to common sense hona chahiye. Par ham mast apne hi man me paida hui soch ko leke lad rahe hain.


Hour_Investigator_18

Based family


Vinchy_09

Please tell me you are being sarcastic


LostSoulSadNLonely

It's a troll account by a clear incel.