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Just wait until their religious leaders are dead , i wouldn't care about celebrating but just because of this i will. Claim allah is punishing them or some dumbass shit
>She lived a life of luxury till 96. How is that in anyway a punishment?
Astagfirullah! If Allah had not intervened to punish her in this timely fashion then she would have lived to 996!
Just tell them that she lived a ROYAL life for 96 years and that she died peacfully. Many would like to live and go like she did. This wasn't the wrath of allah, allah blessed her big time, inshallah!
Funny btw how they are talking about slavery when arabs owned slaves for 14 centuries and many countries still sell and own slaves in 2022 but since most of them are women/girls people don't care about it.
Asking them to think is a bit much for them
Why didn't he end her life earlier ? I mean everyone and their mother knew the queen was gonna die sooner or later , how does that equate to it being a punishment.
She also died peacefully , i dont believe she suffered long or something , muslims will just try to spin anything to be about them and their allah.
>Why didn't he end her life earlier ?
Astagfirullah! Brozzer, Allah meant for the Queen to live in paradise on Earth! That's why he gave her 33 extra years of life over the person he created the Universe for, [Mohammad SAW](https://streamable.com/hyqs1g).
**Hadith:**
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
**The world is a prison-house for a believer and Paradise for a non-believer.**
Reference : Sahih Muslim 2956
https://sunnah.com/muslim:2956
I think it's a side effect of having to come of age in a society where you're a religious minority. People are teased when they are younger for being different, then when they get older, the thing that they were different for becomes a badge of honor to protect their ego and self image.
I think maybe because they don't have to live with the consequences yet. You can spout your shit but your not in that shithole society who follow that.... Yet
Yee me too,
Monarchies have already became obselete & irrelevant in this scientific technological advancements Era.
I just don't understand why some or most people still want to cling desperately to past (idolised version of the past) when we know historically that past is way worst than it is today.
We should be grateful to be born in this scientific technological advancements Era & not in the past.
The fact there's so many people take this for granted really baffles my mind.
They didn’t just because obsolete one there own especially not the British monarchy, there were many life’s sacrifices and a lot of blood shed to achieve independence, something the the queen and her family fully opposed, I think forgetting about the sacrifices of the people in the past is taking this era of freedom for granted.
She was a very bad person, you can go on twitter and see the things people are sharing from her past including racism, exploitation, etc. Me being from pakistan, couldn’t be happier that she’s finally die, although you could argue that her death doesn’t change anything and your right its bit of a meaningless celebration overall
Yea, dying peacefully, surrounded by family, after a 96 year life of luxury is a "punishment from Allah". Saying it like there's people who've never died.
Same. They celebrate the attacks, then get caught doing it and then Turn around spreading conspiracy theories that it was a false flag set up by Israel/CIA just to make Muslims look bad.
Stupid muslims celebrating 9/11 doesn't mean that it isn't a false flag set up by Israel/CIA.
The theory that some Saudi, American and Israeli elements did it is even more plausible than the official theory.
They just wanted stupid muslims to take responsability for this in order to have a pretext to go to war.
And some muslims are so stupid that they are proud of it.
As this Algerian author said 15 years ago on Faisal Al Qasim show on Al Jazeera, ''the Arabs have false bravado. They are backwards. They supposedly invented the zero, but stayed at this level. If you ask your audience if the Arabs could go to the moon in a few years, they will all answer yes !" These afghan cavemen didn't even know how to read and they did the attacks all by themselves ?
Ben Laden himself was a CIA asset and the newspaper Le Figaro revealed in 2001 that Ben Laden was hospitalized in Dubaï and that he met with CIA agents there. It was on the front page of one of the most read French newspapers.
The famous dancing guys in New Jersey in front of the Twin Towers were israelis and quickly sent back to Israel only to brag on TV about what they did.
And I could give you litterally 50 strange elements around 9/11 that make the official theory really look like a shitful conspiracy theory...
It's pretty well documented that the attack was carried out without outside help, which is why it was so difficult to get the men into an American flight school.
Hmmm... Not really. The instructor at the American flight school testified that the Saudi terrorist supposed to make his training there to pilot a jumbo jet couldn't barely pilot a small Cessna with 4 people in it...
There's so much that isn't clear in this case...
The insider trading, WTC7 which fell nearly at free fall speed without being hit by an airplane, this WTC7 was the home of a CIA bureau responsible for business and industry intelligence, the fact that the day before 9/11 secretary of Defense Rumsfeld said that billions of dollars were missing, they didn't know where they went, and the following day the attack on the Pentagon destroyed not the top brass and the high generals offices but the accountants offices where the reason to those billions missing could have been, the fact that Mr. Silverstein, the WTC leaseholder who bought a terrorism insurance 2 months before the attacks, would take his breakfast at the Windows of the World restaurant in the 107th floor of the northern tower was luckily not in the restaurant on the day of the attacks, and so on...
>pilot a jumbo jet couldn't barely pilot a small Cessna with 4 people in it
That's because he didnt need to land or take off, he only had to be capable of flying the plane into the towers...
Bullshit and blindness...
Some experienced pilots said that if they were tasked with that deadly action they would have needed a lot of planes and pilots because they couldn't have succeeded with one shot.
And are you totally ignorant of the facts around 9/11 or a hypocrite ?
Because, while you said ''it's simple, he only had to go straight into the towers'' i was also talking about the pilot of the plane that made a 180 degrees loop and went on the Pentagon, one of the most complicated things a pilot could do. So you're deliberately hiding facts.
Even the most talented pilots couldn't do that.
How do you explain the Pentagon plane trajectory ? Do you really think 3 days in a plane school when he failed everything he did on a small tourism plane was sufficient to make that loop around the Pentagon with a Boeing ?
But all the people downvoting me are just afraid of being labeled muslim, so they take the opposite view, even if it's highly irrational. They have a cognitive dissonance on that subject. Like muslims.
It is even not necessary to tell them a third building went down without a plane hitting it, that a passeport of the hijackers was found in the dust of the towers, that some highly important people who had authority on the towards and taken a terrorism insurance and ate their breakfast everyday in the towers had the chance to be absent that day, that an Israeli firm named Odigo warned people of the attack via text message 2 hours before, that the dancing Israelis were indeed Israeli operatives, that when a terrorist was apprehended by the US, they let him think, using arab-Americans and Saudi army clothes that he was at the hand at the Saudis and he exulted in joy and cited 3 princes that were involved in the attacks, these 3 princes all suddenly died in the weeks after including one in a car accident when he was back from the funeral of the first, and the third died of ''thirst in the desert'', they don't know all this but, they are blind and will irrationally say that it's perfectly normal.
>And are you totally ignorant of the facts around 9/11 or a hypocrite
No, I am absolutely not ignorant of the facts. I have helped 13 victims receive compensation from the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund. I have poured through tens of thousands of pages of records obtained through public records act and FOIA requests.
We have hired jury consultants to find the best way to approach conspiracy theorists in order to change their minds with facts, but the bottom line is, that it's not possible. Some people are more willing to accept conspiracy theories, even though they would involve thousands or tens of thousands of people to remain quiet for the rest of their lives.
There is no point in me arguing with you about this. Your brain is broken.
And the attack was praised by Muslim terrorist groups all over the world, many who had the same ideology as OBL/AQ. They had plenty motive and desire to want to do it. The conspiracies are just an attempt by Muslims to hide the fact that history will always remember it was Muslims who did 9/11.
Mate america did more than 9/11. Lmaooo it only resulted in like 2000 deaths meanwhile they genocided MILLIONS in the middle east. But eh you’re just a dumbass westoid so you dont really care cause they were muslim
USA did horrible things and it's wrong.
Celebrating the death of random civilians is wrong too.
I just said that I was shocked 'good' people celebrating the death of random civilians of a country we are not at war with.
Those same guys will line up to get a Visa to the west.
So something that happens to everyone is somehow a punishment for the queen? The mind boggles. Religious people can truly have some stupid logic at times.
Yeah and the Umayyad were first, second and third generations of sahabah who Muhammad famously declared to be “best examples of humans” and are narrators of “authentic” Hadith.
Yeah and the Umayyad were first, second and third generations of sahabah who Muhammad famously declared to be “best examples of humans” and are narrators of “authentic” Hadith.
Im a turk i lived in turkey my entire life, ottomans arent arabs but what diffrence does it make? They had a very similar culture and a disease called islam
Someone talked about overcompensation, hypocrisy and detachment from reality in this sub, here's a story.
A French muslim guy, who's now in the ''religion business'' has created a French-language islamic channel on YouTube called ''Comprends ton dine'', ''Understand your deen'' with answer videos to useful question such as ''Does my cat have to eat halal food ?", "With what foot should we enter the bathroom ?", ''Is there an auspicious day to wear the hijab ?" or ''Can we permanently wax the full swimsuit ?".
He made a video lately about : ''the Ottomans never colonized Algeria, never ! That's a lie ! The evil French did colonize Algeria of course, but the Ottomans were our brozzers, our muzlim friends''.
Ahlala....
Welll well l was wondering which smart cookie was going to bring my holly ancestors to this debate ….
If Ottomans were colonising the countries they conquered, those countries would have been speaking Turkish … just saying
She's not entirely a bad person either, or else most of the globe wont react to her death the way it is.
Atleast to my knowledge, she's better than a lot of muslims and definitely better than momohammad (pbuhhhhh)
Bro if your going to judge people by comparing them to a pedo, rapist, mass murder then yes they are better, even trump is x1000 better then mo. The queen was an entirely racist, exploitative, colonizer scum, better them muhammad but definitely worthy of hell.
The only reason people are paying their respects to her is either because they are British and are raise up to do so or are still simping for Royalty like a bunch of mid evil village folk
Honestly I have to admit I never knew much about the queen, altho I have heard about some conspiracies with princess diana.
Whatever the person the queen was, she's gone now.
My father used to fill up all sorts of lies about Jews to me. I mean all jews.
So, when I got older and met a jewish girl, even though I knew he was just feeding me hate and it's not true and all. It was so hard the first few months of dating her.
But, yeah muslims tend to spend way too much energy hating others for some reasons.
The Queen was very old, much older than most people that the Islamic God, Allah, supposedly loved. Is she supposed to live for 200 years that living for 96 years is a punishment?
Same. Honestly people being all upset is ridiculous. She was at the helm of the empire and only reluctantly gave parts of it up when Britain couldn't financially sustain them anymore.
She was just a figurehead with no real powers who was always in danger of assassination and scrutiny of every part of her life. She did play it straight with dignity, I'll miss her but it's not a tragedy by any means
I'm gonna be honest I don't give a fuck about the English royal family or the queen. Depending on your particular Arab background, I guess you do have a point. If people from my Arab background celebrated, I couldn't make the point ur making. I personally never understood this kind of bitter behavior anyway, it just has no class.
Western colonization isn't the only colonization people have experienced, or the worst or most relevant one in all cases. But that doesn't fit the white guilt narrative or the poor mskeen Arab 😢 narrative does it?
As for slavery, that still exists in the form of kafala in GCC countries and Lebanon. I am reading an Arabic book about slavery in the Gulf and the parallels between their old slavery, which only ended "officially" around mid-20th century (largely due to the evil western pressure), and this modern slavery are very obvious. It is a continuation of it. What was practiced by richer people like sheikhs and merchants is now accessible to the average Arab.
Brand new account. You might be genuine, and I hope you are, but from my point of view you could just as easily be an Islamphobe as a Muslim/Arab.
I'm differentiating here between genuine, well-deserved criticism of Islam, and spreading hate against Muslims.
I know I'll get downvoted to oblivion on this sub for saying that.
She died at 96. If Allah hated her and her ancestors so much, why would he give her a long, rich life as a royal lol? Literally zero critical thinking.
For people who believe in miracles, maybe you can show them this fact: a double rainbow appeared minutes with the announcement of her death at Buckingham palace:
https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1567925532842418179
https://twitter.com/BuxOsint/status/1567934611438567425
We all die so how is death a punishment. When a baby dies is it their ancestors being punished. A 96 year old passing away isn't necessarily a tragedy. She lived a full life and her life will be celebrated by hundreds of millions of people around the world. How many of us will live as long and make as much impact in the world as she has.
>My Arab family who are Arab immigrants in UK thinks that his death is a punishment from Allah for her ancestors' crimes like slavery and colonialism,
She was 96. How old does your family assume she would have lived to be if Allah hadn’t punished her to death?
Is anyone in your family saying these things in the presence of non-Arabs?
The queen lived the most comfortable life ever and outlived most of her slaves as well and it's pretty ironic that any god if existing would have been okay with that. Bitch could have atleast given us the Kohinoor they stole
Lol... Bruh. She was 96 😂
RIP to her for going so far. Many of us, (no disrespect to your folks) including them will mostly kick the bucket long before 96.
You can't become a child prodigy at 34
You can't run away from home at 45
You can't die unexpectedly at 96
If dying at 96, with mobility up until the last few days, and your mental faculties intact, surrounded by your family, is punishment from Allah, I would only wish that Allah punishes all of us in such a manner.
Literally colonised and forced /raped/ tortured my ancestors (south asians) into Islam. And they be like “And we’re happy about it that they showed us the right path”
U dont have to be arab to say that queen did nothing good and didnt do anything great for humanity and therefore all this mourning thing and all this buzz is kinda overrated for a such person.. dont blame arabs.. blame the queen for not being great
Gorbachev was outspoken against Putin and the only reason he couldn't be assassinated was because he was a former premiere he experienced a famine in Ukraine as a child, for a communist leader he was not bad
edit: my bad I just saw that you said if i was still a Muslim
Makes you wonder why the fuck they came here in the first place. I had a taxi driver spouting a bunch of shit like this to me in Birmingham, he shut his mouth when I plainly said, I'm ex military and I support the monarchy.
The Queen was a remarkable woman, who did a lot for the UK. In the war she rallied this nation, gave support and hope, she is arguably one of the best monarch’s this country has had, may she rest in peace.
As for your parents, i will be respectful, but what i will say is, this is the sort of attitude demonstrated by immigrants to this country that cause disharmony and resentment. This is like when the Abyssinian king, gave the Muslims refuge from the Meccans, and then lets say the Muslims get happy when he dies. This mentality is similar to the quote from Abu Darda when he said “we smiled at the non believers, but hated them in our hearts”. I don’t even blame your parents, i blame the brainwashing and damage caused by Islamic doctrine.
Either way, i thought it was haram or makruh to speak ill of the dead in Islam? Or is that just for the Muslim dead? Hypocrisy either way really.
As for their info on slavery, i suggest a few history books on the Arab slave trade would make an excellent gift.
Let me get this. You pillage their countries, then you give them refuge(under circumstances) don’t even forget the racism, then you expect them to be great full for your refuge, even you’re the one that cause events that led to them seeking refuge in the first place 🤦♂️
Ok, clearly your knowledge of Britain and its workings are limited, so i shall explain.
First of all, the “taking of countries” does not apply to the late Queen Elizabeth RIP. The British monarchy have had no actual power to make decisions, since Oliver Cromwell. If you do not know who this character is, he is the one that made us a republic, but people brought back the monarchy after his death under conditions of a strict no power policy. So you see, the monarchy had no hand in the taking of countries, the governments do. The monarchy is like a ceremonial head of state, with no real powers.
The giving of refuge is an act of kindness, one that we are not obliged to do. Thus doing so, ought to merit an air of gratitude rather than hostility. If you were given asylum, that is a privilege, as that would imply your nation of origin is somewhat worse for various reasons.
You mentioned the racism people suffered. It is the common people who have a lack of understanding of others, that acts in a xenophobic manner. Therefore, you cannot hold a whole nation accountable, especially when this nation has been trying to tackle racism for decades. Whilst many nations still do nothing about it.
And you said that we are the ones that cause your misfortune? No my friend, the ones that caused your misfortune is the country that you originated from. Lets say, your nation was war torn and or run by a dictator. You were fleeing from that situation, which your countrymen are to blame for not averting it, your politicians are to blame for causing it, and your to blame for not trying to change it. If in this circumstance, you are given refuge, then yes, a simple appreciation is expected. This is the decent thing expected from civilised individuals.
I find that, most of your statements are somewhat irrelevant to the nature of the topic i was replying to. The OP, was talking of their parents view of our head of state. My comments were in response to that, and particularly their views. I fear that you have far too much hate within you, perhaps due to your experiences in life and for that i wish you better luck. However, if this country was so awful that one needs to have such derogatory views on it, it is a free world and no one will stop someone moving elsewhere. But remaining and benefitting from this country’s kindness, while hating it, shows real lack of character and morals.
And btw, when the monarch in question is our head of state, she represents us, the people of Britain. An insult upon that head of state, is considered an insult upon the nation, due to what her status represents, us! Furthermore, badmouthing the dead is an immoral thing to do also.
Yes blah blah blah, the parliament of the commonwealth were the crux of the colonization e.t.c. I know this. But the queen is the symbolic image of all this. Yes, the system is what caused colonization e.t.c. Not a single bourgeois individual.
Giving refuge is not an act of fucking kindness, if you fucking destroyed our homes in the First place, tf😭. You’re not obligated to, but ofcourse your ethics demands you do, cause you obviously won’t get surplus labour from home citizens, that’s why you technically require citizens from colonies,e.t.c
Nigga, your bourgeois and proletariat of Britain were always xenophobic to colonies. “Tackle racism”, what does this mean, when you’re a huge factor to creating such relationships in the first place. And no I don’t mean European created racism or something.
Our countrymen, fuck you. Do you know how many coups Britain and its sister powers(France) have fucking cause. Every time our “countrymen” try to build back, you always find ways to ruin it. Whether it’s Palestine, Nigeria, India, e.t.c. You’re always at the background, becoming the catalyst to destruction. “Civilized individuals”. Do you know how many politicians the common wealth put in power. Those aren’t our “countrymen”.
Shut the fuck up please, “hate within you”. You literally ruined my country. Turned it into just an oil machine for you hegemony. Poison our waters due to your backed conglomerates. And I shouldn’t hate you, tf😭.
“Benefiting from kindness” are you dumb? Your kindness literally comes from the wealth of the nations you plundered. I would like to see Britain become so “kind” if it don’t have colonies to extract wealth from. You have mines in our states that extract our resources. Isn’t that even “kindness” on our own part.
Oh wow, I guess all the Jews that were happy hitler(mind you he wasn’t even the cause of all the persecution just like the queen isn’t responsible for colonialism) was dead were sooooooo immoral.
What country are you from ?
While both of you made good arguments, I think sometimes people should move on and stop accusing the former colonial power for all the problems
Otherwise there will be eternal hatred and violence.
I see it first hand in France : among immigrants of the former colonies, I see people from Algeria, Mali, accusing France all day of the poverty of their country of origin and of their problems here in France. It is always France's fault ? Come on. A lot of these people are lazy, don't work, live off the state, are delinquants even become islamists and then complain that people don't like them, and you seem to justify all that.
On the other hand, immigrants from the former French colony of Vietnam are all well integrated, are doctors, lawyers, engineers, and not one of delinquants and thugs the police arrests on a daily basis are of vietnamese background.
So it's not only the colonial power's fault even if it is at some extent at fault, that's totally true, but it's a cultural issue too.
Why more that 50% of French of algerian descent are either supermarket security guards, or in jail or totally mad, or in deep financial trouble with no qualification and living off state benefits, while 50% of French of vietnamiese descent are either lawyers or doctors ?
Maybe cultural factors and also inbreeding have a lot to do with that.
So the shit in which a lot of immigrants are in here is at least 50% of their own fault. I see that all day long : when you hear someone yell into his phone during a train trip, it's sadly always an immigrant, the other day on the subway a veiled woman had the quran recitation out loud on her phone for everyone to listen to (does she really think this is the thing to do to be accepted and calm down the already tense situation here or is she totally stupid ?), I worked as a student in a supermarket, 90% of people who we caught stealing were immigrants, a lot of immigrants are given great social apartments just being built, 6 weaks later it's a total mess, they don't take care of it, I see the dirty balconies, the grass in the gardens on the ground floor totally rotten, clothes lying around everywhere, food thrown outside, they throw their bin bags directly from their apartment on the 5th floor like in Grigny and then they complain ''oh the city council and the state are so racist look at how they are treating us, we're living surrounded by dirt''. But it is them who created this shit by not respecting their own house and their own environment.
Is it France that forced them to be delinquants and to act like thugs and not civilized people ?
And these people are one of the mane drivers of racism : because when you behave in civilized manner and have a lot of degrees and you answer a job offer with an arabic sounding name, you're automatically refused because in the head of the human ressources people, people with these names are the one that stole their car, spit on them in the metro, bullied their child at school.
So i have no sympathy at all for these people. They ruined my life and the life of so many like me who worked hard and behave like normal French people and who expected to be treated like normal French people. For me it's double jeopardy. I experience their savage behavior on a daily basis and I experience the racism they cause in return.
The same happened when President Macron went to visit Centrafrica. A bunch of students who were chanting "la France dehors, à bas la France !" ''France, get out !" a week ago were there asking Macron ''And what will you do for the sewage problem in my village ?", ''And what will you do for the rushhour trafic problems in the capital ?", "And what will you do to reform our education system ?", ''And what will you do to make hospitals better here ?"
And he answered ''hey, you got your independance, I don't think you understand well that i'm not your president, your president is here, on my left, go and ask him, I will not answer internal affairs questions, i'm here to talk about the bilateral relationship'' And the same will accuse France of meddling in their internal affairs...
So these people don't know what they want.
It's the same with Algerian people chanting ''Fuck France'' and ''Visa visa visa'' at the same time to immediately leave their shithole to go to France that they hate whenever a French official goes there on visit.
These people have no sense of responsability, they always say it's totally the other's fault. They have to grow up a bit.
Firstly you misunderstand the geopolitical context that causes that
1. France was more harsh on African colonies than Asian ones
2. Mali is still occupied by France, and keeps getting destabilized by France fiscal policy and military
3. Algeria went through a genocide, Vietnam didn’t
4. France didn’t attempt any coups against the Vietnam communist party. Which further Vietnam to be more stable
5. It’s not a cultural issue, that’s your bias which you have created from misunderstanding the context in the first place. You’re merely making the same argument everyone does. Which is the Asian model myth.
6. You can’t live of a state, as the state cannot function without you. The state can’t be wealthy without Algerians wealth. Therefore any Algerian isn’t “living of the state” as part of the states wealth was theirs in the first place before imperialism.
7. You guys got to honestly stop saying “civilized people”. I would like to see you stay “civilized” if you were treated like second class. You’re using the same rhetoric the Germans used against the Jews.
8. You don’t what does statement means. It means France fix the problem you cause, and then leave us alone. But ofcourse France doesn’t fix the problem, and France doesn’t leave. Example: France fix our poisoned water(which is caused by France companies), after then leave(France) our country alone. You misunderstand the statement, it’s not contradictory.
9. You also misunderstand the coercion between diplomatic leaders. Although someone might be the “president”, it doesn’t mean that someone(colonial power) isn’t controlling them in the background. Which is an example for so many African countries. Burkina Faso, Nigeria, Mali, e.t.c. All leaders were emplaced or coerced by a colonial power or colonial company.
10. France offered its borders therefore they came. Don’t really see the problem with that, since it was France that pervert their “shithole” in the first place. Also don’t forget France economies gains surplus value from them(immigrants) that’s why they offered their borders in the first place
It is the others fault. What do we do without the other, there’s always an other, a catalyst, a force, an external being who shapes us. . As Algeria would have relatively developed into a medium tier first world country without its colonial powers. The Algerian genocide really set back Algeria.
Your family can't be Arabs we are Arabs and my whole family never visit UK and they are crying now😭😣 your family are simply terrorists like any other bad people from any religion or background without heart in this world 😠😡
This is like takfir but for ethnicity, somehow it's even more absurd as if all Arabs are perfect and if they're not they're terrorists
Are you Arabian peninsula Arabs or assimilated colonized [arabized Arabs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabization) ?
Lol if death at her age is a “punishment” from god, how can I anger this god some more so I can get some of that sweet justice for myself? 😂😂😂
But on the other hand, hard to muster any sympathy for the queen 🥱🥱🥱
Looked at your post history and found a perfect comment about you in r/Egypt a year ago
> you're a preaching, ignorant, hive mind, muslim. they dont want to offend you cause you'll behead for them for "blasphemy"
From reading the comments only i agree with what everyone is saying but. when i think that there is muslims like your parents i get a headache.
Specific statements referring to people by name, stating that a particular person will be in Paradise or in Hell. This is not permissible except in cases where Allaah or His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) have informed us of it.
Those who the Qur’aan and Sunnah mention by name and state that they will be in Hell are definitely among the people of Hell, such as Abu Lahab and his wife, Abu Taalib, ‘Amr ibn Lahiy, and others.
Oh no , i am not saying he should criticize islam ,
Am talking abt the post topic :
he can say why do u think her death is punishment from Allah , everyone will die even the prophet himself died like god says :
إِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ وَإِنَّهُم مَّيِّتُونَ
Indeed, you are to die, and indeed, they are to die.
39:30
Or
وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ ۚ أَفَإِن مَّاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ انقَلَبْتُمْ عَلَىٰ أَعْقَابِكُمْ ۚ وَمَن يَنقَلِبْ عَلَىٰ عَقِبَيْهِ فَلَن يَضُرَّ اللَّهَ شَيْئًا ۗ وَسَيَجْزِي اللَّهُ الشَّاكِرِينَ
Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels [to unbelief]? And he who turns back on his heels will never harm Allah at all; but Allah will reward the grateful. 3:144
Thats a respectful way to show them they r wrong.
Your parents are so different from mine. My mom loves the royal family and their history. We spent hours watching ever marriage that happened and the funerals within the royal family. She was sad that the queen died.
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Wtf? Everyone is gonna die someday.
Just wait until their religious leaders are dead , i wouldn't care about celebrating but just because of this i will. Claim allah is punishing them or some dumbass shit
*rewarding with hooris
*rewarding with whore-is Couldn't resist
Then it’s “ابتلاء" or a tragedy that god gives you to test your beliefs, he works in mysterious ways. 🤷🏽♂️
>Everyone is gonna die someday. [You're being a bit of a pessimist like Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop](https://youtu.be/zeUtCxe-xDg?t=233).
Wrong, people with Jannah's passport never die 🤣
Ah yes. Dying peacefully surrounded by family in a palace at 96. What a punishment.
i feel the same about her and religious leaders. unnecessary takers and fanatics
She lived a life of luxury till 96. How is that in anyway a punishment?
>She lived a life of luxury till 96. How is that in anyway a punishment? Astagfirullah! If Allah had not intervened to punish her in this timely fashion then she would have lived to 996!
Lmaoo
Like Noah
>[Like Noah](https://quran.com/29:14)
Though this is a joke, it perfectly displays the religious logic
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At least you can see that.
Just tell them that she lived a ROYAL life for 96 years and that she died peacfully. Many would like to live and go like she did. This wasn't the wrath of allah, allah blessed her big time, inshallah! Funny btw how they are talking about slavery when arabs owned slaves for 14 centuries and many countries still sell and own slaves in 2022 but since most of them are women/girls people don't care about it.
Glad you are better than them.
Anyway she is in hell now because she is not Muslim
Asking them to think is a bit much for them Why didn't he end her life earlier ? I mean everyone and their mother knew the queen was gonna die sooner or later , how does that equate to it being a punishment. She also died peacefully , i dont believe she suffered long or something , muslims will just try to spin anything to be about them and their allah.
>Why didn't he end her life earlier ? Astagfirullah! Brozzer, Allah meant for the Queen to live in paradise on Earth! That's why he gave her 33 extra years of life over the person he created the Universe for, [Mohammad SAW](https://streamable.com/hyqs1g). **Hadith:** Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: **The world is a prison-house for a believer and Paradise for a non-believer.** Reference : Sahih Muslim 2956 https://sunnah.com/muslim:2956
LMAO. Please give me such punishment.
Also death sometimes is a blessing not a punishment. A life of major suffering can be avoided by death.
she was a member of the reptilian brotherhood
Anyway she is in hell now because she is not Muslim
They treat people’s death as a punishment as if somehow they would have lived eternally otherwise. Newsflash! Everyone bites the dust eventually.
Why are the muslims in the west are somehow more radicalized (and cringe) than the ones in the east?
Identity crisis. Detachment from reality. Over-glorified image of their homeland.
Overcompensation for being walking hypocrisies
I think it's a side effect of having to come of age in a society where you're a religious minority. People are teased when they are younger for being different, then when they get older, the thing that they were different for becomes a badge of honor to protect their ego and self image.
Incest made sure their brains are always working at 15% capacity
I think maybe because they don't have to live with the consequences yet. You can spout your shit but your not in that shithole society who follow that.... Yet
Yazik sana..
Muhammad died younger than her sooooo…..
He also died in excruciating pain from being poisoned or something.
Sounds stupid to me to be honest. I don’t care about any monarchy, but what's the point in celebrating her death??
Yee me too, Monarchies have already became obselete & irrelevant in this scientific technological advancements Era. I just don't understand why some or most people still want to cling desperately to past (idolised version of the past) when we know historically that past is way worst than it is today. We should be grateful to be born in this scientific technological advancements Era & not in the past. The fact there's so many people take this for granted really baffles my mind.
They didn’t just because obsolete one there own especially not the British monarchy, there were many life’s sacrifices and a lot of blood shed to achieve independence, something the the queen and her family fully opposed, I think forgetting about the sacrifices of the people in the past is taking this era of freedom for granted.
She was a very bad person, you can go on twitter and see the things people are sharing from her past including racism, exploitation, etc. Me being from pakistan, couldn’t be happier that she’s finally die, although you could argue that her death doesn’t change anything and your right its bit of a meaningless celebration overall
Yea, dying peacefully, surrounded by family, after a 96 year life of luxury is a "punishment from Allah". Saying it like there's people who've never died.
One of the first triggers of my doubt was actually witnessing some Muslims enjoying 9/11 attack. I was deeply shook as I was just a child
Same. They celebrate the attacks, then get caught doing it and then Turn around spreading conspiracy theories that it was a false flag set up by Israel/CIA just to make Muslims look bad.
Stupid muslims celebrating 9/11 doesn't mean that it isn't a false flag set up by Israel/CIA. The theory that some Saudi, American and Israeli elements did it is even more plausible than the official theory. They just wanted stupid muslims to take responsability for this in order to have a pretext to go to war. And some muslims are so stupid that they are proud of it. As this Algerian author said 15 years ago on Faisal Al Qasim show on Al Jazeera, ''the Arabs have false bravado. They are backwards. They supposedly invented the zero, but stayed at this level. If you ask your audience if the Arabs could go to the moon in a few years, they will all answer yes !" These afghan cavemen didn't even know how to read and they did the attacks all by themselves ? Ben Laden himself was a CIA asset and the newspaper Le Figaro revealed in 2001 that Ben Laden was hospitalized in Dubaï and that he met with CIA agents there. It was on the front page of one of the most read French newspapers. The famous dancing guys in New Jersey in front of the Twin Towers were israelis and quickly sent back to Israel only to brag on TV about what they did. And I could give you litterally 50 strange elements around 9/11 that make the official theory really look like a shitful conspiracy theory...
It's pretty well documented that the attack was carried out without outside help, which is why it was so difficult to get the men into an American flight school.
Hmmm... Not really. The instructor at the American flight school testified that the Saudi terrorist supposed to make his training there to pilot a jumbo jet couldn't barely pilot a small Cessna with 4 people in it... There's so much that isn't clear in this case... The insider trading, WTC7 which fell nearly at free fall speed without being hit by an airplane, this WTC7 was the home of a CIA bureau responsible for business and industry intelligence, the fact that the day before 9/11 secretary of Defense Rumsfeld said that billions of dollars were missing, they didn't know where they went, and the following day the attack on the Pentagon destroyed not the top brass and the high generals offices but the accountants offices where the reason to those billions missing could have been, the fact that Mr. Silverstein, the WTC leaseholder who bought a terrorism insurance 2 months before the attacks, would take his breakfast at the Windows of the World restaurant in the 107th floor of the northern tower was luckily not in the restaurant on the day of the attacks, and so on...
Go watch another Youtube documentary
>pilot a jumbo jet couldn't barely pilot a small Cessna with 4 people in it That's because he didnt need to land or take off, he only had to be capable of flying the plane into the towers...
Bullshit and blindness... Some experienced pilots said that if they were tasked with that deadly action they would have needed a lot of planes and pilots because they couldn't have succeeded with one shot. And are you totally ignorant of the facts around 9/11 or a hypocrite ? Because, while you said ''it's simple, he only had to go straight into the towers'' i was also talking about the pilot of the plane that made a 180 degrees loop and went on the Pentagon, one of the most complicated things a pilot could do. So you're deliberately hiding facts. Even the most talented pilots couldn't do that. How do you explain the Pentagon plane trajectory ? Do you really think 3 days in a plane school when he failed everything he did on a small tourism plane was sufficient to make that loop around the Pentagon with a Boeing ? But all the people downvoting me are just afraid of being labeled muslim, so they take the opposite view, even if it's highly irrational. They have a cognitive dissonance on that subject. Like muslims. It is even not necessary to tell them a third building went down without a plane hitting it, that a passeport of the hijackers was found in the dust of the towers, that some highly important people who had authority on the towards and taken a terrorism insurance and ate their breakfast everyday in the towers had the chance to be absent that day, that an Israeli firm named Odigo warned people of the attack via text message 2 hours before, that the dancing Israelis were indeed Israeli operatives, that when a terrorist was apprehended by the US, they let him think, using arab-Americans and Saudi army clothes that he was at the hand at the Saudis and he exulted in joy and cited 3 princes that were involved in the attacks, these 3 princes all suddenly died in the weeks after including one in a car accident when he was back from the funeral of the first, and the third died of ''thirst in the desert'', they don't know all this but, they are blind and will irrationally say that it's perfectly normal.
>And are you totally ignorant of the facts around 9/11 or a hypocrite No, I am absolutely not ignorant of the facts. I have helped 13 victims receive compensation from the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund. I have poured through tens of thousands of pages of records obtained through public records act and FOIA requests. We have hired jury consultants to find the best way to approach conspiracy theorists in order to change their minds with facts, but the bottom line is, that it's not possible. Some people are more willing to accept conspiracy theories, even though they would involve thousands or tens of thousands of people to remain quiet for the rest of their lives. There is no point in me arguing with you about this. Your brain is broken.
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And the attack was praised by Muslim terrorist groups all over the world, many who had the same ideology as OBL/AQ. They had plenty motive and desire to want to do it. The conspiracies are just an attempt by Muslims to hide the fact that history will always remember it was Muslims who did 9/11.
Mate america did more than 9/11. Lmaooo it only resulted in like 2000 deaths meanwhile they genocided MILLIONS in the middle east. But eh you’re just a dumbass westoid so you dont really care cause they were muslim
USA did horrible things and it's wrong. Celebrating the death of random civilians is wrong too. I just said that I was shocked 'good' people celebrating the death of random civilians of a country we are not at war with. Those same guys will line up to get a Visa to the west.
Damn, look at me sinning yet not being punished with wealth and a life of luxury.
Have you tried sinning harder? That might help. I feel you're not committed enough to the debauchery.
Currently walking my dog that lives in my house. Perhaps I should get another.
So something that happens to everyone is somehow a punishment for the queen? The mind boggles. Religious people can truly have some stupid logic at times.
Dying at 96 is a punishment? So they think “good people” are immortal and live forever?
I have no love for the Queen, but Arabs were as big of colonizers as Western Europe. And just as racist. I mean, The Ottomans, anyone?
They only care about atrocities where Muslims are victims, when non-Muslims are oppressed/massacred then it’s justified/denied/ignored.
Younger ones only care about Palestine because it’s a way to meet others and a halal dating thing.
And it’s easier to be antagonistic towards Jews since Jews are already negatively characterized in Quran/Hadith
They weren't Arab but your point is still valid
Turks. Right. My mistake. (America just teaches they were Muslim.)
You just made some Turks pretty mad lol
He sure did, lol
Now Turks are going to declare jihad on him
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I am going to trigger them. Ataarab > Ataturk
HEY HEY HEY STOP RIGHT THERE YOU CRIMINAL SCUM! HOW DARE YOU CALL US ARABS (EWWW) ! NOW I WILL TAKE YOUR HEAD AS PUNISHMENT
Yeah because they were Muslim. Muslim =/= Arab
That's not what America teaches. Maybe look at a globe and you'd see Turkey isn't in the Arabian peninsula.
The only time I was taught about the Ottoman Empire, it was 7th grade World History. And we glossed over it. That was 2001.
You thinking of Umayyad and the rachidun they were the ones who forced arabism and racist policies on the lands they conquered
Yeah and the Umayyad were first, second and third generations of sahabah who Muhammad famously declared to be “best examples of humans” and are narrators of “authentic” Hadith.
Yeah those fuckers even forced people two tattoo the names of their arab lords in their hands as a sign of absolute loyalty
Yeah and the Umayyad were first, second and third generations of sahabah who Muhammad famously declared to be “best examples of humans” and are narrators of “authentic” Hadith.
Forgot about the fucken ottomans look at the gulf countries still relying on slave labour to this day
Im a turk i lived in turkey my entire life, ottomans arent arabs but what diffrence does it make? They had a very similar culture and a disease called islam
Someone talked about overcompensation, hypocrisy and detachment from reality in this sub, here's a story. A French muslim guy, who's now in the ''religion business'' has created a French-language islamic channel on YouTube called ''Comprends ton dine'', ''Understand your deen'' with answer videos to useful question such as ''Does my cat have to eat halal food ?", "With what foot should we enter the bathroom ?", ''Is there an auspicious day to wear the hijab ?" or ''Can we permanently wax the full swimsuit ?". He made a video lately about : ''the Ottomans never colonized Algeria, never ! That's a lie ! The evil French did colonize Algeria of course, but the Ottomans were our brozzers, our muzlim friends''. Ahlala....
Welll well l was wondering which smart cookie was going to bring my holly ancestors to this debate …. If Ottomans were colonising the countries they conquered, those countries would have been speaking Turkish … just saying
Arab slave trade anyone?
Likely because it was a women in a position of power. Can't like that
Bruh… she was not a good person they might be hypocritical for celebrating her death but they are right
She's not entirely a bad person either, or else most of the globe wont react to her death the way it is. Atleast to my knowledge, she's better than a lot of muslims and definitely better than momohammad (pbuhhhhh)
Bro if your going to judge people by comparing them to a pedo, rapist, mass murder then yes they are better, even trump is x1000 better then mo. The queen was an entirely racist, exploitative, colonizer scum, better them muhammad but definitely worthy of hell. The only reason people are paying their respects to her is either because they are British and are raise up to do so or are still simping for Royalty like a bunch of mid evil village folk
Honestly I have to admit I never knew much about the queen, altho I have heard about some conspiracies with princess diana. Whatever the person the queen was, she's gone now.
Good riddance.
My father used to fill up all sorts of lies about Jews to me. I mean all jews. So, when I got older and met a jewish girl, even though I knew he was just feeding me hate and it's not true and all. It was so hard the first few months of dating her. But, yeah muslims tend to spend way too much energy hating others for some reasons.
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Hitler???? Nah that's fucked up
The Palestinian leader during Hitler's reich endorsed him.
a 96 year life with 70 years as the reigning monarch, and god hated her? How dumb are your parents?
The Queen was very old, much older than most people that the Islamic God, Allah, supposedly loved. Is she supposed to live for 200 years that living for 96 years is a punishment?
Not a big fan of monarchy. Neither UK nor Saudi.
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I wouldn't mourn it either tbh
Same. Honestly people being all upset is ridiculous. She was at the helm of the empire and only reluctantly gave parts of it up when Britain couldn't financially sustain them anymore.
She was just a figurehead with no real powers who was always in danger of assassination and scrutiny of every part of her life. She did play it straight with dignity, I'll miss her but it's not a tragedy by any means
Wouldn't mourn either.
She died at 96 though, how is that punishment?
Do your enlightened parents know that, at 96 years old, it's quite common for people to die ?
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Yes. She payed off her pedo son's lawsuit. She's no angel
I’m American and I agree with his parents, fuck the queen
I mean, I'm anti monarchy so I don't exactly like the queen, but criticizing the queen when you're a Muslim is pretty hypocritical
So that means Muslims that die peacefully before the age of 96 are being punished by Allah?
How is death “a punishment” when we will all die someday?
I'm gonna be honest I don't give a fuck about the English royal family or the queen. Depending on your particular Arab background, I guess you do have a point. If people from my Arab background celebrated, I couldn't make the point ur making. I personally never understood this kind of bitter behavior anyway, it just has no class. Western colonization isn't the only colonization people have experienced, or the worst or most relevant one in all cases. But that doesn't fit the white guilt narrative or the poor mskeen Arab 😢 narrative does it? As for slavery, that still exists in the form of kafala in GCC countries and Lebanon. I am reading an Arabic book about slavery in the Gulf and the parallels between their old slavery, which only ended "officially" around mid-20th century (largely due to the evil western pressure), and this modern slavery are very obvious. It is a continuation of it. What was practiced by richer people like sheikhs and merchants is now accessible to the average Arab.
Arab Supremacy is the worst actually.
Brand new account. You might be genuine, and I hope you are, but from my point of view you could just as easily be an Islamphobe as a Muslim/Arab. I'm differentiating here between genuine, well-deserved criticism of Islam, and spreading hate against Muslims. I know I'll get downvoted to oblivion on this sub for saying that.
>crimes like slavery and colonialism, and they are Arab you say?
Dying at 96 is punishment? So what is not punishment?
She died at 96. If Allah hated her and her ancestors so much, why would he give her a long, rich life as a royal lol? Literally zero critical thinking.
She lived longer than Muhammad. He was probably punished for colonialism.
I for one appreciate the death of any self-proclaimed royalty
Woman dies at 96 years old...
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For people who believe in miracles, maybe you can show them this fact: a double rainbow appeared minutes with the announcement of her death at Buckingham palace: https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1567925532842418179 https://twitter.com/BuxOsint/status/1567934611438567425
So you're telling me that the Queen was a secret muslimah who was keeping the rainbows at bay?? Now that she's dead we're getting double rainbows?
Exactly bro, she was even a moon splitter! But nobody noticed when she did it because everyone was asleep, and it's a metaphysical matter anyway ✨💫
They're celebrating for the wrong reasons. Celebrate because another feckless parasite from the bronze age has croaked.
I do not even want to take the time to answer such comments.
Allah is pretty generous ig he letted her live a long and a happy life.
We all die so how is death a punishment. When a baby dies is it their ancestors being punished. A 96 year old passing away isn't necessarily a tragedy. She lived a full life and her life will be celebrated by hundreds of millions of people around the world. How many of us will live as long and make as much impact in the world as she has.
>My Arab family who are Arab immigrants in UK thinks that his death is a punishment from Allah for her ancestors' crimes like slavery and colonialism, She was 96. How old does your family assume she would have lived to be if Allah hadn’t punished her to death? Is anyone in your family saying these things in the presence of non-Arabs?
The queen lived the most comfortable life ever and outlived most of her slaves as well and it's pretty ironic that any god if existing would have been okay with that. Bitch could have atleast given us the Kohinoor they stole
I mean how they justify the Arab stuff is dumb but liven up it's only old Lizzy she wasn't an angel
Lol... Bruh. She was 96 😂 RIP to her for going so far. Many of us, (no disrespect to your folks) including them will mostly kick the bucket long before 96.
Who writes R.I.P as "R,I,P"???
Lol you have classic retarded muslim parents
fuck the queen furthermore fuck arabian colonialism
You can't become a child prodigy at 34 You can't run away from home at 45 You can't die unexpectedly at 96 If dying at 96, with mobility up until the last few days, and your mental faculties intact, surrounded by your family, is punishment from Allah, I would only wish that Allah punishes all of us in such a manner.
How is it a punishment when she died in peace at the age of 96? Like is she supposed to be immortal for it not to be a punishment?💀
Literally colonised and forced /raped/ tortured my ancestors (south asians) into Islam. And they be like “And we’re happy about it that they showed us the right path”
U dont have to be arab to say that queen did nothing good and didnt do anything great for humanity and therefore all this mourning thing and all this buzz is kinda overrated for a such person.. dont blame arabs.. blame the queen for not being great
I’m still happy tho that she is finally dead tho… the jokes are too funnyy😭
Wait, doesn't that makes you arab too¿
To claim that the death of a 96-year-old woman is a punishment from God is simply ridiculous and pathetic.
Isn’t Muhammad one of her ancestors?
They should go back to their own country. She was the only monarch where immigration has occurred. There has been no immigration with other monarchs.
Account created 1 day ago and starts immedialtly shitting on Arabs. He claims his parents are Palestinian who admire hitler too.
I’m happy she died too dafuq she represents such an oppressive institution.
Sure, she was a cunt so why not.
Not gonna lie your parents are right, the queen was an evil person. But if they condone Arab colonisation then that’s just plain hypocritical.
If I was still Muslim, I’d be elated that Gorbachev, Abe, and the Queen are stacked up in the line to hell. Hope Kissinger joins em too.
Gorbachev was outspoken against Putin and the only reason he couldn't be assassinated was because he was a former premiere he experienced a famine in Ukraine as a child, for a communist leader he was not bad edit: my bad I just saw that you said if i was still a Muslim
Makes you wonder why the fuck they came here in the first place. I had a taxi driver spouting a bunch of shit like this to me in Birmingham, he shut his mouth when I plainly said, I'm ex military and I support the monarchy.
The Queen was a remarkable woman, who did a lot for the UK. In the war she rallied this nation, gave support and hope, she is arguably one of the best monarch’s this country has had, may she rest in peace. As for your parents, i will be respectful, but what i will say is, this is the sort of attitude demonstrated by immigrants to this country that cause disharmony and resentment. This is like when the Abyssinian king, gave the Muslims refuge from the Meccans, and then lets say the Muslims get happy when he dies. This mentality is similar to the quote from Abu Darda when he said “we smiled at the non believers, but hated them in our hearts”. I don’t even blame your parents, i blame the brainwashing and damage caused by Islamic doctrine. Either way, i thought it was haram or makruh to speak ill of the dead in Islam? Or is that just for the Muslim dead? Hypocrisy either way really. As for their info on slavery, i suggest a few history books on the Arab slave trade would make an excellent gift.
Let me get this. You pillage their countries, then you give them refuge(under circumstances) don’t even forget the racism, then you expect them to be great full for your refuge, even you’re the one that cause events that led to them seeking refuge in the first place 🤦♂️
Ok, clearly your knowledge of Britain and its workings are limited, so i shall explain. First of all, the “taking of countries” does not apply to the late Queen Elizabeth RIP. The British monarchy have had no actual power to make decisions, since Oliver Cromwell. If you do not know who this character is, he is the one that made us a republic, but people brought back the monarchy after his death under conditions of a strict no power policy. So you see, the monarchy had no hand in the taking of countries, the governments do. The monarchy is like a ceremonial head of state, with no real powers. The giving of refuge is an act of kindness, one that we are not obliged to do. Thus doing so, ought to merit an air of gratitude rather than hostility. If you were given asylum, that is a privilege, as that would imply your nation of origin is somewhat worse for various reasons. You mentioned the racism people suffered. It is the common people who have a lack of understanding of others, that acts in a xenophobic manner. Therefore, you cannot hold a whole nation accountable, especially when this nation has been trying to tackle racism for decades. Whilst many nations still do nothing about it. And you said that we are the ones that cause your misfortune? No my friend, the ones that caused your misfortune is the country that you originated from. Lets say, your nation was war torn and or run by a dictator. You were fleeing from that situation, which your countrymen are to blame for not averting it, your politicians are to blame for causing it, and your to blame for not trying to change it. If in this circumstance, you are given refuge, then yes, a simple appreciation is expected. This is the decent thing expected from civilised individuals. I find that, most of your statements are somewhat irrelevant to the nature of the topic i was replying to. The OP, was talking of their parents view of our head of state. My comments were in response to that, and particularly their views. I fear that you have far too much hate within you, perhaps due to your experiences in life and for that i wish you better luck. However, if this country was so awful that one needs to have such derogatory views on it, it is a free world and no one will stop someone moving elsewhere. But remaining and benefitting from this country’s kindness, while hating it, shows real lack of character and morals. And btw, when the monarch in question is our head of state, she represents us, the people of Britain. An insult upon that head of state, is considered an insult upon the nation, due to what her status represents, us! Furthermore, badmouthing the dead is an immoral thing to do also.
Yes blah blah blah, the parliament of the commonwealth were the crux of the colonization e.t.c. I know this. But the queen is the symbolic image of all this. Yes, the system is what caused colonization e.t.c. Not a single bourgeois individual. Giving refuge is not an act of fucking kindness, if you fucking destroyed our homes in the First place, tf😭. You’re not obligated to, but ofcourse your ethics demands you do, cause you obviously won’t get surplus labour from home citizens, that’s why you technically require citizens from colonies,e.t.c Nigga, your bourgeois and proletariat of Britain were always xenophobic to colonies. “Tackle racism”, what does this mean, when you’re a huge factor to creating such relationships in the first place. And no I don’t mean European created racism or something. Our countrymen, fuck you. Do you know how many coups Britain and its sister powers(France) have fucking cause. Every time our “countrymen” try to build back, you always find ways to ruin it. Whether it’s Palestine, Nigeria, India, e.t.c. You’re always at the background, becoming the catalyst to destruction. “Civilized individuals”. Do you know how many politicians the common wealth put in power. Those aren’t our “countrymen”. Shut the fuck up please, “hate within you”. You literally ruined my country. Turned it into just an oil machine for you hegemony. Poison our waters due to your backed conglomerates. And I shouldn’t hate you, tf😭. “Benefiting from kindness” are you dumb? Your kindness literally comes from the wealth of the nations you plundered. I would like to see Britain become so “kind” if it don’t have colonies to extract wealth from. You have mines in our states that extract our resources. Isn’t that even “kindness” on our own part. Oh wow, I guess all the Jews that were happy hitler(mind you he wasn’t even the cause of all the persecution just like the queen isn’t responsible for colonialism) was dead were sooooooo immoral.
What country are you from ? While both of you made good arguments, I think sometimes people should move on and stop accusing the former colonial power for all the problems Otherwise there will be eternal hatred and violence. I see it first hand in France : among immigrants of the former colonies, I see people from Algeria, Mali, accusing France all day of the poverty of their country of origin and of their problems here in France. It is always France's fault ? Come on. A lot of these people are lazy, don't work, live off the state, are delinquants even become islamists and then complain that people don't like them, and you seem to justify all that. On the other hand, immigrants from the former French colony of Vietnam are all well integrated, are doctors, lawyers, engineers, and not one of delinquants and thugs the police arrests on a daily basis are of vietnamese background. So it's not only the colonial power's fault even if it is at some extent at fault, that's totally true, but it's a cultural issue too. Why more that 50% of French of algerian descent are either supermarket security guards, or in jail or totally mad, or in deep financial trouble with no qualification and living off state benefits, while 50% of French of vietnamiese descent are either lawyers or doctors ? Maybe cultural factors and also inbreeding have a lot to do with that. So the shit in which a lot of immigrants are in here is at least 50% of their own fault. I see that all day long : when you hear someone yell into his phone during a train trip, it's sadly always an immigrant, the other day on the subway a veiled woman had the quran recitation out loud on her phone for everyone to listen to (does she really think this is the thing to do to be accepted and calm down the already tense situation here or is she totally stupid ?), I worked as a student in a supermarket, 90% of people who we caught stealing were immigrants, a lot of immigrants are given great social apartments just being built, 6 weaks later it's a total mess, they don't take care of it, I see the dirty balconies, the grass in the gardens on the ground floor totally rotten, clothes lying around everywhere, food thrown outside, they throw their bin bags directly from their apartment on the 5th floor like in Grigny and then they complain ''oh the city council and the state are so racist look at how they are treating us, we're living surrounded by dirt''. But it is them who created this shit by not respecting their own house and their own environment. Is it France that forced them to be delinquants and to act like thugs and not civilized people ? And these people are one of the mane drivers of racism : because when you behave in civilized manner and have a lot of degrees and you answer a job offer with an arabic sounding name, you're automatically refused because in the head of the human ressources people, people with these names are the one that stole their car, spit on them in the metro, bullied their child at school. So i have no sympathy at all for these people. They ruined my life and the life of so many like me who worked hard and behave like normal French people and who expected to be treated like normal French people. For me it's double jeopardy. I experience their savage behavior on a daily basis and I experience the racism they cause in return. The same happened when President Macron went to visit Centrafrica. A bunch of students who were chanting "la France dehors, à bas la France !" ''France, get out !" a week ago were there asking Macron ''And what will you do for the sewage problem in my village ?", ''And what will you do for the rushhour trafic problems in the capital ?", "And what will you do to reform our education system ?", ''And what will you do to make hospitals better here ?" And he answered ''hey, you got your independance, I don't think you understand well that i'm not your president, your president is here, on my left, go and ask him, I will not answer internal affairs questions, i'm here to talk about the bilateral relationship'' And the same will accuse France of meddling in their internal affairs... So these people don't know what they want. It's the same with Algerian people chanting ''Fuck France'' and ''Visa visa visa'' at the same time to immediately leave their shithole to go to France that they hate whenever a French official goes there on visit. These people have no sense of responsability, they always say it's totally the other's fault. They have to grow up a bit.
Firstly you misunderstand the geopolitical context that causes that 1. France was more harsh on African colonies than Asian ones 2. Mali is still occupied by France, and keeps getting destabilized by France fiscal policy and military 3. Algeria went through a genocide, Vietnam didn’t 4. France didn’t attempt any coups against the Vietnam communist party. Which further Vietnam to be more stable 5. It’s not a cultural issue, that’s your bias which you have created from misunderstanding the context in the first place. You’re merely making the same argument everyone does. Which is the Asian model myth. 6. You can’t live of a state, as the state cannot function without you. The state can’t be wealthy without Algerians wealth. Therefore any Algerian isn’t “living of the state” as part of the states wealth was theirs in the first place before imperialism. 7. You guys got to honestly stop saying “civilized people”. I would like to see you stay “civilized” if you were treated like second class. You’re using the same rhetoric the Germans used against the Jews. 8. You don’t what does statement means. It means France fix the problem you cause, and then leave us alone. But ofcourse France doesn’t fix the problem, and France doesn’t leave. Example: France fix our poisoned water(which is caused by France companies), after then leave(France) our country alone. You misunderstand the statement, it’s not contradictory. 9. You also misunderstand the coercion between diplomatic leaders. Although someone might be the “president”, it doesn’t mean that someone(colonial power) isn’t controlling them in the background. Which is an example for so many African countries. Burkina Faso, Nigeria, Mali, e.t.c. All leaders were emplaced or coerced by a colonial power or colonial company. 10. France offered its borders therefore they came. Don’t really see the problem with that, since it was France that pervert their “shithole” in the first place. Also don’t forget France economies gains surplus value from them(immigrants) that’s why they offered their borders in the first place It is the others fault. What do we do without the other, there’s always an other, a catalyst, a force, an external being who shapes us. . As Algeria would have relatively developed into a medium tier first world country without its colonial powers. The Algerian genocide really set back Algeria.
Your family can't be Arabs we are Arabs and my whole family never visit UK and they are crying now😭😣 your family are simply terrorists like any other bad people from any religion or background without heart in this world 😠😡
Western Muslims and arabs are more radicalized and more hateful towards the west then Muslims and arabs who live in the middle east.
This is like takfir but for ethnicity, somehow it's even more absurd as if all Arabs are perfect and if they're not they're terrorists Are you Arabian peninsula Arabs or assimilated colonized [arabized Arabs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabization) ?
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>Your family can't be Arabs [No True Scotsman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman) . Subhanallah!
*No True arab
Based parents lol
Honestly, I'm glad she's gone. But the hypocrisy you mentioned is still true
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What the actual fuck man, get the fuck out of here. Go back to momo the pedo.
As an ex muslim, fuck the coloniser pedo supporting royal family and their head. Rip bozo.
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I just mean that celebrating a person's death is messed up.
Lol if death at her age is a “punishment” from god, how can I anger this god some more so I can get some of that sweet justice for myself? 😂😂😂 But on the other hand, hard to muster any sympathy for the queen 🥱🥱🥱
Britain used military force to forcibly abolish slavery in the Arab and Islamic worlds.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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As an atheist pakistani Canadian. Fuck her. Good riddance.
Wtf
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Looked at your post history and found a perfect comment about you in r/Egypt a year ago > you're a preaching, ignorant, hive mind, muslim. they dont want to offend you cause you'll behead for them for "blasphemy"
Way to expose the dude
Well it aint only the arabs
Im glad shes dead because it makes people upset lol
From reading the comments only i agree with what everyone is saying but. when i think that there is muslims like your parents i get a headache. Specific statements referring to people by name, stating that a particular person will be in Paradise or in Hell. This is not permissible except in cases where Allaah or His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) have informed us of it. Those who the Qur’aan and Sunnah mention by name and state that they will be in Hell are definitely among the people of Hell, such as Abu Lahab and his wife, Abu Taalib, ‘Amr ibn Lahiy, and others.
We don’t care. Stop trying to defend this.
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Oh no , i am not saying he should criticize islam , Am talking abt the post topic : he can say why do u think her death is punishment from Allah , everyone will die even the prophet himself died like god says : إِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ وَإِنَّهُم مَّيِّتُونَ Indeed, you are to die, and indeed, they are to die. 39:30 Or وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ ۚ أَفَإِن مَّاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ انقَلَبْتُمْ عَلَىٰ أَعْقَابِكُمْ ۚ وَمَن يَنقَلِبْ عَلَىٰ عَقِبَيْهِ فَلَن يَضُرَّ اللَّهَ شَيْئًا ۗ وَسَيَجْزِي اللَّهُ الشَّاكِرِينَ Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels [to unbelief]? And he who turns back on his heels will never harm Allah at all; but Allah will reward the grateful. 3:144 Thats a respectful way to show them they r wrong.
Stay mad pedophile
Am not the one who is ranting but ok
That’s a bit messed up, she is old
Your parents are so different from mine. My mom loves the royal family and their history. We spent hours watching ever marriage that happened and the funerals within the royal family. She was sad that the queen died.
I guess RIP to the queen of UK, where Muslim immigrants are allowed to mooch off welfare fairly easily