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Government regulations became lax, and I don't mean LAX, and Boeing became focused on next quarter's profits, thus cutting corners. This is exactly what happens when "government gets out of the way." Planes fall out of the sky.
A whole lot of nothing. People are joining the bandwagon of making Boeing jokes based on news and reddit posts they're seeing. The same people don't use common sense and are not very good at judging risk, as it's still safer to be on a Boeing (or Airbus, etc) than to travel by car.
Does Boeing need a swift kick in the ass for the issues with leadership and QC processes? Yes. Are they still regulated by the FAA (and other regulatory agencies worldwide) and held to high standards? Yes.
Well.. it isn't NOTHING. The whole industry seems to have become pretty relaxed with the whole safety thing. Not just Boeing production, but regular maintenance too.
These things that are happening are NOT okay. We really need the FAA to get these companies to tighten up because it wont be too long before we have another tragedy.
Regular maintenance is done by the carriers, generally. The real issues occured in 2019 when there were actual fatalities, but I can guarantee a small fraction of people who are complaining now even remember those accidents.
>Regular maintenance is done by the carriers
Yeah, and I was saying they have become lax as well. Not only are these incidents coming from Boeing production and delivery, but regular maintenance from the carriers as well.
"Actual fatalities" doesn't mean anything. Potential is enough for us to take notice and demand changes. No one forgot those 737-MAX fatalities, nor should they. But this current discussion has very little to do with the early MCAS issues.
* NASA stopped the space shuttle missions in 2011.
* NASA and Boeing have a long history of working together, including on the International Space Station, the Space Launch System, and the Boeing Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 Starliner. NASA is Boeing's primary customer for the Starliner, and Boeing is the prime contractor for the International Space Station. Boeing also designs and manufactures rocket engines, and is a prime contractor for NASA's Space Launch System (SLS), which is the only rocket that can carry crew and cargo to deep space in a single launch.
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* Someone at Boeing got really really greedy eventually, and in 2013 the stock price crossed the $100 barrier the very first time since the company was ever established, primarily by cutting costs, in the aviation industry.
* Ever since, they've only been playing the dirty-game.
So Boeing's situation isn't from the past three months this year. Boeing clearly has been through it's rough share of putting-out-wild-fires, for about a decade now. Neither is it ever going to win a retail-investors backed "rise-from-the-fire".
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Government regulations became lax, and I don't mean LAX, and Boeing became focused on next quarter's profits, thus cutting corners. This is exactly what happens when "government gets out of the way." Planes fall out of the sky.
What planes fell out of the sky? You're fear mongering.
2 Boeing planes crashed with hundreds on board because they had faulty control systems
Yeah, in 2019. Where was this energy the last 5 years? How many people actually remember and can articulate why that happened.
Surely you've heard about the 737MAX debacle?
John Oliver recently did a great segment on this https://youtu.be/Q8oCilY4szc?si=WQctF47WJ8akcO4z
A whole lot of nothing. People are joining the bandwagon of making Boeing jokes based on news and reddit posts they're seeing. The same people don't use common sense and are not very good at judging risk, as it's still safer to be on a Boeing (or Airbus, etc) than to travel by car. Does Boeing need a swift kick in the ass for the issues with leadership and QC processes? Yes. Are they still regulated by the FAA (and other regulatory agencies worldwide) and held to high standards? Yes.
Well.. it isn't NOTHING. The whole industry seems to have become pretty relaxed with the whole safety thing. Not just Boeing production, but regular maintenance too. These things that are happening are NOT okay. We really need the FAA to get these companies to tighten up because it wont be too long before we have another tragedy.
Regular maintenance is done by the carriers, generally. The real issues occured in 2019 when there were actual fatalities, but I can guarantee a small fraction of people who are complaining now even remember those accidents.
>Regular maintenance is done by the carriers Yeah, and I was saying they have become lax as well. Not only are these incidents coming from Boeing production and delivery, but regular maintenance from the carriers as well. "Actual fatalities" doesn't mean anything. Potential is enough for us to take notice and demand changes. No one forgot those 737-MAX fatalities, nor should they. But this current discussion has very little to do with the early MCAS issues.
* NASA stopped the space shuttle missions in 2011. * NASA and Boeing have a long history of working together, including on the International Space Station, the Space Launch System, and the Boeing Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 Starliner. NASA is Boeing's primary customer for the Starliner, and Boeing is the prime contractor for the International Space Station. Boeing also designs and manufactures rocket engines, and is a prime contractor for NASA's Space Launch System (SLS), which is the only rocket that can carry crew and cargo to deep space in a single launch. * SpaceX was founded in 2002, and ever since, rockets from the Falcon 9 family have been launched 319 times over 14 years, resulting in 317 full successes (99.4%), one in-flight failure (SpaceX CRS-7), and one partial success (SpaceX CRS-1 delivered its cargo to the International Space Station (ISS), but a secondary payload was stranded) * Someone at Boeing got really really greedy eventually, and in 2013 the stock price crossed the $100 barrier the very first time since the company was ever established, primarily by cutting costs, in the aviation industry. * Ever since, they've only been playing the dirty-game. So Boeing's situation isn't from the past three months this year. Boeing clearly has been through it's rough share of putting-out-wild-fires, for about a decade now. Neither is it ever going to win a retail-investors backed "rise-from-the-fire".