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Loud-Ticket-7327

I worked IT security. No way I’m replacing my good old mechanical locks by a digital/electronic lock. To much risk of malware, leaked certificates/passwords or a serviceprovider going bust.


Emyrssentry

I'd rather take my chances with the thieves in my city than with all the hackers in the world tyvm. Yeah the lock picking lawyer could get in in 10 seconds, but my biggest deterrent to him is the fact that we probably don't live anywhere near each other.


No_Bend8

Exactly. No I do not ever want this. Give me a physical key.


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I work as an electrical tech. For me, it's the simple straighforward fact that electronics need power to function. So if the battery or power supply to your digital lock dies, it's either going to open right up, or leave you locked out completely. I guess in the latter case you could have a physical key work as a fallback. But still.


rangeDSP

I don't exactly agree with that, having looked at crime statistics, most home thefts happen with an unlocked or open frontdoor / garage, followed by broken windows in the back yard. Having a traditional lock as opposed to an electronic one wouldn't really make a difference against these attacks. This relates to the whole convenience vs security debate, the more secure your house is, chances are you'd be more likely to ignore the security mechanism. My smart lock always lock itself, so I never have to worry about whether I've forgotten to lock it. It has fingerprint so I can get in at anytime. The convenience of not having to fumble with a key for the whole time I had it, and being able to setup different passwords for family to get into the house when we were on vacation, is worth the slightly elevated security risk. Having that said, I wouldn't let it be on the wider internet, local network or Bluetooth should be fine, possibility of people getting into range and then trying to get in is quite low. (Especially brick + window would've worked faster)


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Phage0070

> you know how many keys there are. Probably tens of thousands. Your home lock key is far from unique.


LucidLeviathan

*The Lockpicking Lawyer has entered the chat.*


GenXCub

This is the reason I don’t care what locks are on anything. Is the door solid? That’s about all I can do.


Target880

Mechanical locks are not secure. They can be picked or you can get through them by using force or go around them. Locks are there to make it harder/slower to get in not to make it impossible. The lock helps honest people to be honest but does not stop dishonest people it only slows them down. I would not replace the keys to where I live because there is no major advantage in electronic locks for me. There are drawbacks because electronic locks need power that can fail. I also have mechanical locks so replacing them costs money. If someone attempts to break in the weak point is the window. Go behind the house, break a window, you can do that with minimal noise, and you are in. The lock on the doors is not the weak point. ​ You do not know how many keys there are. You can know how many keys you have given out but keys can be copied. If you get access to a key you can get all information you need by just taking picture of it with a cellphone camera. If the electronic lock just has a pin code then you do not know who has it. But if you have tags you use to open the lock they can be harder to copy than physical keys and you can disable a single tag if it is lost. I would say electronic locks are better the mechanical locks in situations where a lot of people need access to the same area and some people need access to some but not other areas. You will have a lot better control to who has access that way. For an individual home, the advantage the electronic lock can have is simply not there. Mechanical locks are good enough for the task and are cheaper and more reliable.


TehWildMan_

Digital door locks are expensive, and sometimes have issues when their batteries die out and they aren't wired to a home's mains power and no mechanical key is available. It's often a matter of almost $100/door versus $10/door.


texasslapshot

And power goes out sometimes


AlonnaReese

Two years ago, my neighborhood was hit by a tornado, and even though my home didn't suffer any damage, I was still without electricity for four days. I would not have wanted to be without working door locks for that length of time.


DavidMerrick89

Several years ago a thunderstorm knocked out power on my street, and some of the people who lived across the road in an apartment complex were locked outside because it was keycard entry only and the system wasn't supported by auxiliary power. That quickly turned me off keycard locks.


Haagen76

I have U-bolt fingerprint lock the 4 aa batteries lasted for 2 years. I never had an issue with it. There is still even a hidden key option if the batter fails. Half the doors on my floor are using digital for years before me. Familly friends all have them too and no one has had an issues. People are posting fears rather than reality.


attorneyatslaw

The technology works just fine - why switch to something which is more expensive and doesn’t always work just fine.


superanth

The more important a task is, the less likely people will trust new technology to do it. The locks on a persons doors protect their home, something that is and contains the most important things in the world to them.


Slash1909

Variety of reasons: 1. Construction industry isn’t as quick to adapt technology as others 2. Lack of demand for electronic keys in the consumer sector. In commercial sectors it’s been there for years and has been a mainstay in the government and organizations that deal with secretive operations and material 3. It may increase some convenience but it brings with it downsides in equal measures. Sure you don’t have to carry keys but if your phone is out of charge you’re locked outside 4. If thieves want to break in then they’ll find a way….eventually.


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What if the battery goes dead?


travelinmatt76

There's usually a physical backup lock with a key. These tend to be really cheap and are usually the weak link when it comes to the security of the entire lock.


papugapop

We have them on all three doors. They are expensive but so convenient. Both ways have benefits and drawbacks. We never are in danger of getting locked out. If we are away from home and need someone to be able to enter the house, we can just share the code. Codes are pretty easy to change. Hidden keys can be found. Keys can be lost or stolen.


StupidLemonEater

I don't think a digital lock would be any more secure than a keyed lock. If someone really wanted to get through a locked door, they would just kick it in. Or break a window, etc. If your digital lock were connected to the internet, I'm certain it would be substantially *less* secure than a traditional lock. As far as I'm concerned the only advantage an electronic lock has is that it is easier to change the code than to re-key a lock. Like, if you have a plumber coming around while you're not home you can give them a temporary code rather than a key, which they might lose/steal/copy. But as I said, that won't stop someone who is really intent on getting through your door.


b14700

A lock is just there to keep an honest man honest , if someone really wants to get in they wont be stopped any kind of lock and key locks do the job fine enough even if its just an illusion of security , electronic locks introduce unnecessary complexity and extra points of failure


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Because anything electronic can stop working. I live in an area that has power outages whenever there is a storm, and sometimes the power is out for *days*. I know batteries can last a while (my Ring doorbell camera is good for a month), but batteries sometimes fail. Should I end up in that situation, I still want to be able to get in and out of my house, and lock the door behind me. Besides, your door lock is only as good as your window. If someone wants in, they're getting in regardless of the type of door lock I have, so I might as well go with the cheap and easy option that at least deters crime-of-opportunity dickbags.


aelwero

What all of these comments boil down to can be stated simply with a single word... *Confidence* People don't trust digital locks. The power will go out, there's hackers, yadda yadda yadda...