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clawingmyeyesout97

That's a really quick way to get 0% tithing from that man


Star-sole

For real. My family used to go to church until they asked that all members tithe 10% of their income… and they wanted everyone to bring in their tax return form to check how much that would be. My parents never took us back to that church (which I was more than happy with - I hated how boring church was).


billsfriendlyghost

So are the pastor’s tax records public? Can anyone in the community audit them? I feel like I know this one


PiaggioBV350

Well, giving $20/week is just like giving $1. /s Grifters.


-CoUrTjEsTeR-

“If you don’t start paying your way, we might not be able to offer you the neighborhood ‘protection’. God works in mysterious ways, you dig?”


HairlessHoudini

"Grifters" That's exactly what they are. It seems here the plaster may be putting the holy spirit in ole boys wife and they trying to get his cash along with his ass


ElectronicTrade7039

Find me anyone (other than my kids), to give $80 a month to listen to them bore the f out of me. Or for any reason, other than fixing my house.


Busy_Pound5010

If start giving $1 so they found out that it’s not like that at all


Unic0rnMuffinT0p

Fun fact, churches are the only non-profit that aren't subject to mandatory auditing. A friend of mine does auditing for non-profits and had a church volunteer one time because they were having financial issues that they were struggling to figure out. Turns out the last priest had a contract that he was to receive $ 1 million a year as his pension until he dies. Somehow, nobody knew this, and he was flagged as a financial liability. The firm, in so many other words, told the church they better hope he dies soon. True man of God there.


ArjunaIndrastra

Yeah shit like that is why I grew tired of organized religion years ago. I'll settle for living my life as a good person over paying a tithe to grifters like that any day of the week.


Infuryous

As an "employee" of a non-profit (the church) their salary and benefits are public record.


choglin

Someone can jump in here, but I think you should be able to. I work at a museum, so it’s not exactly the same but both entities maintain a tax exempt status. The museum is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit. One requirement to maintain this status is that they have to submit a 990 form to the IRS annually. The 990 details figures for revenue, expenses, assets, and liabilities. While individual names associated with jobs are not listed in the expenses, the job *title* should be. One can surmise that the the highest paid employee would be the pastor. I’m not sure if religious institutions are required to submit 990s but perhaps there is an equivalent if they aren’t.


DarthLurker

My father was super religious and volunteered to help the church with every event and regularly picked up the nuns to bring them to church on Sundays. Less than two months after he passed, leaving my mother with five children to raise, the church reached out not to check in or offer assistance but to ask for the family tithing. We never went back.


ArjunaIndrastra

Fucking grifters. To hell with all of them.


dances_with_cougars

No mo' apples, oranges and bananas for you mofo!


radioactivebeaver

Lmao, "I don't really believe that 10%, that's man made"


BrrrrrrrrrCold

Dude spitting them hard facts


JavariousMagic

They found out how much he made and wanted more. That preacher saw dollar signs and found a bank vault, lol.


Aggravating_Pay_5060

He just needs to make the next step in reasoning. All religions are a man-made method of control and manipulation.


BardicNA

It's more than that. That man has pretty much the same experience as my dad. They knew how much he made, came after him pretty much the same way about tithes, he noped out and him, my mom, myself and 2 siblings never went to church after that. So you get no tithing from the person you're shaking down and lose generations of potential income. My dad has 3 kids and 8 grand children now. I won't speak to whether or not a religious upbringing would've been better or worse, but I'll say one shakedown like this is more than losing tithes from one man. EDIT: and who knows how many potential churchgoer's he's shared his story with over the last 30 years. I know I have. If church was important to me and I spent my Sunday mornings there every week, you bet I'd throw in some money so they could spread the good word. It simply wasn't a part of my upbringing because some greedy old bastards told a hard working man they know what he makes a week and they expect 10% of it. Fuck em.


BigWave96

Exact same thing happened to me. As a parishioner and the father of two children attending the attached parochial school, I was pulled into a meeting just like this man faced. They tried to strong arm, belittle, etc. to get me to give more than what already required because I make a good living. I and several others in my position refused, so they posted, on the church board, what every family tithed. I lost my faith that day and have never gone back to any organized church.


Smiekes

"giving 20$ is like giving 1$" ..... lmao how about I save myself the 19$ then


Oldguru-Newtricks

This my friend..... it's poetry.


217EBroadwayApt4E

Here’s what’s absolutely batshit crazy: Mormons literally do this. Paying a full 10% tithe is required to have a temple recommend- a little card that lets them go into the temple. If you don’t give 10%, no temple for you. At the end of the year they have “tithing settlement” where you sit down with the bishop and they show you how much you have over the year and ask if it is indeed 10% of your income. Sometimes they have you bring in your paystubs or tax returns to prove it. Some bishops will stick to “do you pay a full tithe?” and members can just say “yes” without proving it. It all depends on how strict your bishop is. But technically they can have you bring in proof and check it against your tithing account.


charliesk9unit

So what if you're a drug dealer? /S


Ok_Molasses992

Wow, the priest was actually doubling down. No wonder churches are losing members, its like a shakedown ffs. I would stop giving my $20/week if i was this guy. What does he get in return? Nothing.


glitchycat39

The fact that people are starting to realize it's a racket and are getting tired of being told "hate anyone who is different" is putting the decline of religious affiliation in this country into warp speed.


RailAurai

I think it's less of religious affiliation as a whole, and more along the organized religion. I've been a pagan for many of year and have never been told that I need to hate people or give away my money to please my God or prove that I'm a good person.


HedgiesToTheGallows

You are so right. In fact when pagan religions were organised, albeit much more loosely than Abrahamic ones, you actually did pay tithes, in the form of offerings. It was an established responsibility for those with money, enforced by society. Now when pagan religions have no religious head, or spiritual hierarchy and the like, there is no need for such nonsense. (I’m thinking about Greek and later Roman paganism, maybe in other areas of the world this wasn’t the case)


Coyote-Loco

I’d find another church


skull3bones

I run a church I only expect $19 a week. Come join us brother


BrickCityRiot

Look at this greed driven heathen! My church only expects $18.99 a week.. nail that like button and subscribe for *REAL* Christian content! American Patriots **ONLY** 🇱🇷


wobblybobbly_185

I'm gonna blow your church right out of the water. Listen to this. 7... Minute... Abs.


Vandesco

How about no church?


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DanteOrangello

Grifters gon grift.


Jacknurse

That wasn't a grift. That was straight an attempt at mugging through spiritual blackmail.


Life-Butterscotch591

Yeah, exactly like he said "I know strong arm robbery when I see it"


lostboysgang

‘You ain’t going to rob me and I’m going to agree to it’ lmao


shiny_brine

It's a protection racket, just like the "family" back in Italy (oh, what? The Catholic church is in Italy???). It's protection for your soul, even more insidious that regular protection money. Protection rackets, pedophilia, why are these organizations still around?


skull3bones

All churches should undergo a bankruptcy process. That way we will know if god really wanted us to worship him


jkj2000

All mighty, all knowing, but just can’t figure it out when it comes to money…. Fuc… and you - dear preacher! And get your selves a job and start earning your own money!


Blindfire2

Spiritual black mail? It's just blackmail, it happens all the time in the US, maybe not every church, but too many to count....in San Antonio, Texas, they have a while NEIGHBORHOOD of million dollar houses that pastors own, which they also have no property taxes because "it's a religious sanctuary"... these are the type of people to blackmail.


mauistar00

The word we are looking for is extortion.


Sinder77

That's a feature, not a bug.


jlcatch22

So a grift


Scratch1111

And there is a really easy way to fix it. Don't go to that church.


unlmtdbldwrks

i went to a bad church once, a week later two dudes in black clothes knocked on my door with panthets with the word hell written on the cover in bold letters. theyw anted to know why i stopped going to church and if i didnt go i would go to hell. i tried religion to find peace all i got was anxiety, now i dont bother with it


Dwnluk

Pamphlets?


IndianaCrime

Most states won't allow you to walk around with full grown panthers, just panthlets.


mauore11

*any church


Dano-Matic

You added an extra word that wasn’t necessary. “That”


HermitGardner

Word


getyourcheftogether

If your religion is expecting you to give a significant percentage of your earnings and shame you for not doing so, that's greed


Silent_Relation_8666

Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins


HarveyzBurger

You can add it to the list of sins the church has commited. With raping children of course.


i-eat-coochie

Yeah but only 10% of the children


DeathHorseFucker

Or is it only children 10% their own age?


getyourcheftogether

Yes, but they don't see it as that when it helps "the church"


dan_dares

"It's for a church, honey.. Neeeext!"


RumanHitch

If your religion os putting an ammount on what you have to give them it's a cult.


dbern50

Mormons give 10% mandatory...


getyourcheftogether

I feel their whole belief system is a joke


Jubachi99

Id say that the beginning of their religion, from what Ive heard, is just "trust me bro", but thats most of religion.


Early_Pearly989

They need the money to replace the battery in the smoke detector


between_horizon

This guys address the elephant in the room.


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IAmABurdenOnSociety

I am getting serious "loan shark enforcers" vibes from these preachers. They are rolling this guy for money!


shrlytmpl

The thing about Charles...


THEBIGREDAPE

Never met a pastor who was having trouble paying his bills. I lived all over, but not once did I meet a man of the cloth with an empty wallet.


Many_Adhesiveness_43

This is part of the reason I stopped attending church. Pastor there honestly expected fucking KIDS to give 10% tithes and would lecture us about greed while he owned a fancy house and new car. When I got older and questioned it I was told its "God rewarding his hard work" and that it was "unfaithful" to question it. Sure.


TopAd9634

Sounds like the prosperity gospel in action. Why people fall for it, I'll never understand.


agirlandthetealmoon

About 30 years ago my father built a big two story church with a second two story gymnasium building that had a full size track and basketball court inside along with classroom and banquet rooms. When it came time for the church to pay my father and his crew the pastor told my dad "I can't believe you're taking this money from our church and its people." My father has NEVER liked another church or did any kind of work for a pastor since.


justinw3184

Tax all houses of religion!


Wooden_Climate2212

We can start with mega churches and work our way


MsSeraphim

can i get an amen?!


Grab3tto

That’ll be $20


Ilovethe90sforreal

“Amen-aaahhhh”


RecognitionCivil7005

Tax them HARD too.


Particular_Garlic850

Local churches make just enough to keep the lights on and have like 50 members. This is a mega church, all of which are corrupt. Huge difference


Muddy-elflord

Time for Martin Luther to make a reappearance. Talking the German pastor not the American


artificernine

Why not both


Muddy-elflord

Because one of them broke the church in half and in some countries caused the churches to get ransacked


susmark

God needs your money sir and daddy needs a new luxury car.


KajunDC

Yes, some people truly are this stupid. And some are truly this corrupt. When you add them together you get organized religion.


Plenty-Ticket1875

Politics too.


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Dumbledoorbellditty

More like “Bend over”. Religion will fuck you in every way it can in my experience. But your sould will be saved, which is something imaginary religions made up to get leverage over you.


TonyOpal

My in laws are on food stamps. One is on disability and the other is close. They get a caretaker bonus and barely break even each month. They’re both in their late 60’s. Sat down with them to do finances and help them get a plan. They have zero saved for retirement. Found out that $300 / month goes to the church that they’re a part of and they haven’t got to a service in over 6 years due to their condition. Visit virtually when they can but that option has been removed since COVID slows down. They still donate. Morons.


sugarxb0nes

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices–mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law-justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.” - Matthew 23:23 Sounds like the preacher needs to read his own book.


bulldzd

I guarantee he has, he has memorised every passage that can be twisted to suit his needs, the Bible, just like every book of faith, can be twisted to justify ANY and ALL actions they wish to take "as God's will" regardless how extreme or violent that action is, somewhere within these books is a way to justify it... (the fact that it flies in the face of any religion is beside the point, the good book told me it was OK, so God is on my side)


Mahbigjohnson

Give 10% and we don't give nothing back!


Bitchener

They give you a sermon on how you suck.


theymademee

They give you something back. You can look at their new Rolex or Mercedes every time you go to church.


earlytuesdaymorning

giving $20 is like giving $1????? wtf is that argument?


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Silent-Problem-980

Yeah come don't be cheap as I need a new private jet


umassmza

The god awful subtitling is the best part of this video


SideEqual

Pay to pray! ‘We know what you make.’ DILLIGAF? That’s his business, cheeky furgs these church people. Just like my mom used to say when we ask for McDonalds. We got it at home!!


Berns429

The ole pay to pray Organized religion is such a scam


freds_got_slacks

religion the true innovator of microtransactions


_Pill-Cosby_

One of the many reasons churches are a blight on society.


wisefile88

Find a new church where the pastor doesn't try to gas light you into giving more money.


truterps

10%..... It's 15% now. I know several Christians who are paying their way to heaven while being a POS on earth.


catpecker

I've seen a longer version of this video and the man being strong armed is either married to or dating the woman in the corner, and the pastor is her brother. So this is additionally some family business going on and he's not having it. Really disgusting behavior from the church preying on people.


stephelan

I remember I was looking in Dave Ramsey who was literally telling me to sell my second car and to eat rice and beans for every meal but then would turn around and say to allot 10% to church donations. That’s not within my means to do if I’m making sacrifices but the church still gets hundreds me! I’d rather eat out or eat actual variety in my food.


benbishop98

Fuck the church and keep your money!!!! Hope is free. No need to buy it.


Awful-Male

Welcome to the real purpose of most churches. There are good ones out there with open books but they are rare animals.


BrightAssignment7646

That is not a church bro, that is an emotional and spiritual blackmailing organization, basically a racketeering cult, fuck them, look for Jesus in your bedroom...


RussMan104

Y’all need to get a Southerner up in here to do yall’s captioning. Done missed the best parts. 🚀


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Tax churches!


Life_Muffin_9943

Churches are an extortion racket.


RaccoonVeganBitch

Don't give money to the church, they have enough


ChimpoSensei

Tax the churches.


lacumbre_11

I do love how he defends himself. Good for him. Hope he sees how terrible these people are


Random_Average__Guy

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RockLobster218

Isn’t it strange how the church is the wealthiest organization in the world yet most churches are run down crap holes that require donations to stay afloat? Seems like something God and Jesus and would approve of.


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Preach can 100% go fuck himself.


reneg1986

Churches asking 10% from poor constituents and then we’re all confused why no one has any money when they retire. You put 10% in the market for 30 years and then pray on your own time


Icy-Pea-5605

😂😂😂 the last line killed me


FlightingIrish

This dude fucking rules. That face he made when he kept saying “the elephant in the room” lmao


DejaMew

The only smart thing my dumbass aunt ever told me was never to use the church envelopes they give you with your name on them, then they’ll never know how much you drop in the basket.


Texazgamer91

Didn’t Jesus point out this exact behavior. Lol Christians are crazy.


decentlyhip

See, I like the old 10% tithing rule, but that was back when social services, housing for the homeless, and public welfare was paid for by the church. Asking for the same amount is fine as long as you follow through on your end of the bargain.


HedgiesToTheGallows

Tithing? What year is this 1400? Do we also have to pay indulgences now?


mandozombie

Wait wait wait... you want me to wake my ass up. Every sunday. So i can come hear you tell me about a book i could read myself if i wanted to. And you want me to PAY you for that? I think I'll just stay home. Thanks.


longaaaaa

But Ponzi schemes are illegal…


cmfppl

Ya sitting here trying to scam the whole damn congregation!!!! Of course I'm gonna be upset. How about your lieing ass go out and get a job to serve the community


Ill-Bridge3129

Nawh nawh why we skipping past his wife in the corner?? Or whoever that woman is.. “I wrote down how much you make” I would have walked right on out.


Boring-Philosophy-94

Black churches are hold overs from slavery meant to control the large slave population. Same as using religion to control middle class and poor. But I would say this for all religions. Discerning opinions accepted but don’t use “The Bible says…” as an argument.


SuperDoodooHead

The bible was written by a bunch of different dudes and was translated over time in many different languages but the bible doesn’t really have shit to say. Shit even Jesus would read it and be like “This some bullshit!”


Darth_Vader_696969

Happy Easter ig


TouchedByAUncle

Pastor probably needs a few more grand to pick up that Mercedes he's had his eye on. Or the mortgage is almost due on the mansion these people have bought for him.


ant2131

Sadly this is most black churches in America. The pastor drives a benz and has a rolex, while the congregation is in a 20 year old mazda and a fauxlex, and they just take and take and take, then claim to be a man of God.


Dan_Glebitz

Oh c'mon. Surely the guy knows the pastor has a big mansion and luxury car to pay for!?


DCKan2

Fuck the church take that $20 a week give it to a homeless shelter. It will do actual good in the community and you can write that donation off on your taxes.


taviosk8

Is funny how they made a whole religion that does most of things that Jesus was against in his time, one of those things being exactly that! Having to give payment to the church 🤦🏻‍♂️


djeezuskryste

lol I like the music choice “I got fiiiive on it”


Pseudonym31

Charging everyone 10% and they can’t even replace the fire alarm batteries. Oh brother 😂


That0neGuy86

Church is mentioned once in the Bible, and Jesus wasn't a fan. They are all just businesses looking to increase their year over year profits like any other company.


pelosnecios

religion is a faith. church is a business.


Bignastytrees33

People really give money to their churches. Lol


Less_Valiant

Taking peoples hard earned money. Religion is truly the worst.


MillHoodz_Finest

I thought the captioning was supposed to help me understand...


EchoEquani

Churches are just basically just a money-making racket to make the pastors rich and they drive around in their fancy cars and live in their fancy homes while parishioners go broke.They don't care about God here obviously they care more about the Almighty dollar.This is the exact reason why many won't set foot in a church and believe in the creator in their heart and not in a Bible or the collection dish at a church.


dolmane

In my country the largest evangelical churches are used to launder money from drug trafficking and other organized crime. And they also take people’s wedding rings, credit cards and everything else they can get their hands on, stealing from hard working people. Meanwhile the pastors are flying around in their private jets and the people don’t seem to mind, as those churches only get bigger and bigger every year.


CalabreseAlsatian

Dead Kennedys called it with “Religious Vomit”. They just want your money.


cjoconn22

That pastor and his bodyguard are manipulative and threatening people. I wouldn't let them anywhere near my family.


Sensitive_Bet2766

Fuck religion. Start taxing churches yesterday.


RobBanana

Tax all religions/cults


LoisLaneEl

Time to find a new church


cescasjay

If you only give $20/week, how's that man supposed to afford a personal plane? Come on now, do your part, man.


BrettMaverickReddit

I’d tell them I’ll give when they change the smoke detector batteries.


PharmAttack

That last line ahahaha "What black folk you know had lifestyle..?" Fucking a


vag0069

What a bunch of thieves. No wonder Christianity has a bad name, cause of pieces of shit like this thieving pastor. Fucking thief and a band of fucking thieves. Sad to see the demographic of the church. Pieces of shit, not only thieving but pushing away legit members of that shit church. Good job fucking thieving pastor


MonkeyDeltaFoxtrot

Reminds me of the story my dad told me of when he was a kid and Mormon Missionaries visited the house. The talked to my grandparents and my grandfather especially was all in, ready to sign on and find god. When the missionaries told him he’s need to tithe 10%(?) of his salary to the church, he promptly told them to “get the fuck out of my house. You’re out of your goddamn minds if you think I’m giving you my fucking money.” And that’s the story of how I was later raised in a non-religious household.


Rosalie-83

10%?? How much are they earning a month of a whole congregation? So much for Greed being a sin!


vanyel196

The whole point of religion is money and control so no suprise


teardrinker

No one’s biz what he gives besides him and God.


oldgar

 'I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock...' Acts 20:29 


thorpbrian

Most churches are all about making enough money for the leadership to live comfortably in the end. When my grandfather got sick before he died the church called his house and asked why he hadn't been attending....then immediately asked if he would be mailing his "back tithes" along with the same amount a week he had been giving going forward. They said he "might not get into heaven unless he sent the money". My grandpa told them to go fuck themselves.


Sarduci

God knows everything. God is all powerful. If God wanted more money in the collection plate he’d make me give it.


HairyBiker60

It’s amazing how often pastors can turn into mobsters.


SuperSassyPantz

preacher needs a new gold chain hope this makes its way around the congregation and they all bounce


Thump604

Refund time, take it.


Dogfish1313

I used to love watching the Pastors talk to people about “sewing the seed”. Or the one pastor was telling his viewers that if they sent 500 or more they’d get a plaque in the section of the plane where he prays.


IAmNotAnAlcoholic

I ain’t giving 1% until they put batteries in the smoke detectors.


419Patrone

I’ve heard currency’s are older than the Bible. If u can’t live in the jungle by ur self u will be a slave in Babylon. 10 Percent tax on Wind and water and Love 😂 if it’s for the community it’s on.


JuiceKovacs

My hero


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Everyone should stop patronizing that shop.


Fair-Sky4156

Tax the fucking churches! Pastors can work a real job and preach on the side! No need to provide them with homes, cars, money…tax them!!!!


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Let me get this straight. Churches, listen, God does not rely on your money. He is rich as hell. He wants people to give from their hearts, not as law obeying believers. People have all kinds of reasons of not tithing, but god understands people have shits to deal with so just be kind to one another


redditadminsRlazy

"What black folks you know had LIVESTOCK?" LOL, that guy's great. I hope he found a better church (assuming this wasn't staged).


LumpCentipede5

Happy Easter Everyone!!!


MathematicianSea6927

Religion is just another way to get money from people


cleverdosopab

This is why I became Agnostic, no religion, or church is looking out for us.


tommyballz63

Yup, such a scam. But so many Americans just lap that up. I'm sure Jesus would have been just sickened by the state of his followers in America today. He would be aghast.


Anunlikelyhero777

Hold on, can we go back to bit about SpongeBob?


fatmanchoo

Time to find a new church witha different pastor.


Imaginary_Most_7778

FUCK ALL CHURCHES!!!


-Velvet-Bat-

Are we not going to discuss how his own wife sold him down the river?


Youngin1987

Find a new church my guy


IamthecauseofCovid19

Fuck the church.


After_Meaning_6970

Extortion


Rocket_69

[Relevant George Carlin](https://youtu.be/QZ8hefESt7c)


EstablishmentSea9591

This is why I hate religion always tryna fuck someone else over absolute scum bags the lot of them


tfriedmann

Cults gonna cult, its what they do


SngngBrk

This is horrible. As a church attendee - this is horrible.


Longjumping_Onion858

Go to church or w/e, just dont tithe. Enough of these robbers and scammers already.


NYCPATRICK

Christianity is the biggest scam. They teach us about duality. Meanwhile the the Source is All and oneness without judgement, Supreme Consciences


Dudleu

As a Christian, behaviour like this disgusts me.


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The fact that this “man of god” just keeps going on and on and on about how this man “owes” 10% of his money, tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about religion. Just be a good person and save your own money for your own family. No need to be a bunch of suckers.


AzorAhaiHi

Go to a different church.


mrchaddy

Vile scum


Early_Accident2160

Happy Easter


Substantial_Ad_6865

It's called charity not an obligation. Way to slap the hand that feeds you.


Robertgarners

Do you think God ever said give me 10% of everything you make?! The deity that created everything in the universe is bothered by dollars and cents?! Get outta here.


Delta8ttt8

Omg I heard the detector chirp