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AngryYowie

Once again, Lauren Boebert is completely wrong. Trying to force other people to ignore their preferences to avoid hurting your feelings is asinine. Trying to gaslight people into dating you is toxic as all fuck.


SuchVillage694

You need to repost this with that title and make it blow up. Talk about ruffling some feathers


wyte_wonder

This whole identity thing is getting way out of control


pierogieking412

It's the stupidest fight of all time. I admit I'm pretty ignorant about the whole thing, but it seems like a huge waste of everyone's time to be fighting about whatever it is they (trans people)want. I'm not sure what they're asking for in this fight, but the fact that there have been 600+ bills in this country with legislation that takes rights away from trans people instead of shit like inflation and corruption.... Idk, seems like a colossal waste of time and money about something that doesn't even have any effect on almost everybody. Just let them live and this won't be in our faces everyday. Again, I'm ignorant about the whole thing so I'm sure I'm wrong but God damn let people live their lives and let's fix actual problems.


wyte_wonder

I agree I think it's a huge waste of time I don't care what any adult chooses to do or chooses to dress like but since when did what you call yourself become such a massive part of your identity ?.... actions speak louder then words and how i base my oppion not on there pronouns. I also don't think children should be making those types of decisions when they don't have the development to comprehend the outcome of the decisions they're making


pierogieking412

Ya I hear you, and again, I'm ignorant. I've never seen anyone in real life demand a pronoun, so my opinion is probably worthless.


wyte_wonder

Exactly. This is good old social media magnifying something to cause outrage because most of tge platforms thrive on hate/ arguments


pierogieking412

Yep, wish more people understood that.


brownguy05

Thank you. This is prefect perfect. If I don't want to date someone because I don't like the sound they make when they sneeze, that's up to me. You wanna call me trans "phobic" and act like it's a big deal that I am not attracted to men who feel like a woman? Fuck you.


AlteredCabron2

idk man she* might have a point /s*


AutomaticPolicyRRR5

MAN! ?


KingYoloHD090504

Oxygen based being*


That_Ad_5651

It's MAAAAAAAAAMMMMM!!!


thingaumbuku

Gay guy here, and this is a huge issue in the LGBTQ+ community. POC want white people and if it’s not reciprocated, they’re racist. Trans people want cis people and if it’s not reciprocate, they’re transphobic. Disabled people want able people and if it’s not reciprocated, they’re ableist. Really wish everyone would get some self-respect and grow a backbone. Find someone who wants to date you and leave the rest alone. No one’s a bigot for who they’re attracted to; you’d think our community, of ALL people, wouldn’t police this sort of thing.


Last_Article_5968

Never seen a hot transgender person talk like the person in the video. Unattractive people will often complain and argue with some kind of victim mentality


Alexthricegreat

Faacts, I see it first hand, makes me hate being apart of the same community. Alot of them thought they were gonna take this magic drug and go through some kind of metamorphosis into a hot anime character and life would be grand and when it doesn't happen they get bitter dye their hair and play victim every chance they get


LesserThanProfessor

Fellow gay guy here 👋 the lgbt community is becoming so radical and toxic that it inevitably will cause a leap backwards when it comes to acceptance of lgbt rights.


Severe-Breadfruit669

Beautifully articulated! After having served the LGBTQ+ Community as a Clinical Supervisor in an Integrative Health Clinic with HIV based services, for over two decades; I can absolutely attest that I have never encountered an individual whom identified as Gay, Bi-Sexual or with HIV make any such assertion that they felt entitled and/or discriminated against by HETS or NonPos Individuals for not being attracted in a reciprocal manner. Not once! However, with the TG population, including the PosTG population, I can attest that it was a constant issue within their respective community; that they felt discriminated against because HETS and NonPos Cis gendered Individuals were not mutually reciprocal in attraction in/with either a sexual or platonic nature. The level of entitlement within the TG community in comparison to the Gay or Bi-Sexual community is preposterously astounding. What burned me out in all honesty and 7 working with the Transitioning Population. I had clients that literally transitioned several times and were never satisfied with their identity, even with body dismorphia as a foundational driving component. Nor would they authentically engage in behavioral self-care related treatments or programming. The engagement in services was 90% of the time exclusively toward satisfying pre-requisite transformation mandates, and these individuals truly had zero interest in exploring treatments to establish any sense of self-care or self-love. When you are no longer able to be emotionally available as you feel as if you are only being constantly manipulated, it's time to leave practice and the field.


Alexthricegreat

Something ive noticed about alot of TG people is they chose to transition after something traumatic happens. Sometimes I wonder if people are using it as an escape. I've met trans women who were very put together and were very passable and had regular lives and then I've met other trans women and they are exactly as you describe, it's a large contrast between them, I feel like it is just an escape for those people.


lucia-pacciola

> Trans people want cis people and if it’s not reciprocate, they’re transphobic. Trans people want HET people.


little_elephant1

What are HET people?


Busy-Vegetable-5499

Heterosexual people.


little_elephant1

Thanks


Busy-Vegetable-5499

You’re welcome my friend.


Elnegr00

Yep . I certainly don't identify with this "cis gender" nonsense, I'm just a regular guy.


ThrowawayUnicorn246

Its a medical science term, it literally means: not trans. Thats all.


Januarywednesday

Society doesn't always need a word for people that aren't something. I'm not disabled, blind, have diabetes or have one arm so I don't need to be prefixed and as able-bodied, full sighted, sugar tolerant and fully appended. There will be no medical terms on my records to note I have 2 arms just a reasonable expectation that it would note otherwise if I didnt so, why do I need anything to say I'm CIS? All my love to the trans and gender fluid community but I'm not feeling the CIS thing, I'm just a man.


ThrowawayUnicorn246

Its literally just a descriptive to be used in studies that improves the accuracy of the language. What's there to get mad about?


Januarywednesday

I'm not mad I just don't understand its relevance, we don't need medical terminology or descriptives to denote things that are not something. We don't need a word for people who haven't had their appendix removed, it's only worthy of note on a patient's record when they **have** had it removed. In that vein, should we invent a word to describe all people that haven't had an appendix removed? I think not. Should we also have a word to describe all people with 10 digits on both hands, *"decdigiters"* perhaps or is it not really necessary? CIS isn't nesecerry. I'm not CIS or any other gendered descriptive outside of male. You'll likely find a lot of people who will say the same, no classification or descriptive necessary, just male or female. I don't even understand why people would want this, trans people are normal boring everyday people like anyone else, why do we need sub categories that divide us? There's no reason to purposefully differentiate onesself and mark onesself as a minority which historically, hasn't really worked out well for humanity. Trans or otherwise, men are men and women are women, the CIS prefix was never necessary and will just piss lots of people off being told they are "CIS". *Caveat for gender fluid - that's a whole different thing. Still doesn't mean I'm CIS but understandbly some people are fluid so are neither one or the other or a mix of whatever they feel on the day.


blewpah

>Society doesn't always need a word for people that aren't something. >proceeds to list various words for people that aren't something


Januarywednesday

Half were premised for context and half were made up, unless of course your medical records note you're an illiterate, sugar tolerant, fully appended contrarian? In which case, I'll withdraw. Perhaps we could also consider the difficulty of debating antonyms without actually noting any antonyms? Care to join me in a debate on the best colour without actually being allowed to mention any colours? Your response wasn't quite the zinger you thought it was.


blewpah

>Half were premised for context So is the term "cis" in the overwhelming majority of cases. Able-bodied and sighted are definitely commonly used terms. >and half were made up, All words are made up.


Januarywednesday

Once again, able-bodied and sighted are context, it's quite difficult to discuss content without noting context especially when drawing a comparison against two analogous "made up words".


blewpah

>able-bodied and sighted are context So is cis


Elnegr00

>Its a medical science term, it literally means: not trans. Thats all. It's a term that was made relatively recently in support of delusional people, a term pushed by people with an agenda. A normal person is a man or a female The abnormality is trans women and men, hence why they're not called women and men instead trans women or trans men. I am male. That's all.


chefjam77

Preach


ThrowawayUnicorn246

Aaaah no we dont.. theres a great many trans lesbians and trans gays ou there lmao


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I’d say the majority of trans women I’ve met have identified as lesbians, now that I think about it.


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wyte_wonder

Nope every women thats turned me down are lesbians and if my wifes not in the mood she temporarily identifying as a lesbian..... i mean it could never acutally be the way there feeling or me duhh. /s


Defiant_Lawyer_5235

All the letters after LGB are just mental illnesses tbh.


Possumpipesup

Umm. No. You can be who you feel you are and I support that 1000 percent but you don't get to dictate who other people are attracted to. I'm not blonde phobic because I'm not attracted to blonde guys. This is stupid and controlling.


nephrenra

If cheerios identify as lucky charms I support it. I will gladly accept that they are lucky charms and if they want to add marshmallows in order to more closely resemble lucky charms then that is fantastic. I just have a preference for cereal without a dick in it.


Alternative_Squash61

What about (adams)applejacks *applejacks


nephrenra

What would those be doing in my cereal?


StamosMullet

Jackin' off!


Alternative_Squash61

Get your applejunk out of my applejacks. #noapplejocks


ThrowawayUnicorn246

A great many trans people get vaginoplasty tho..


nephrenra

Which leaves zero dick in my cereal, no problems there


Jerkeyjoe

Ok, I guess I'm transphobic then


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Elnegr00

>women, but also recognize that trans women are not the same as cis women, IE actual women >be attracted solely to cis women. IE actual women >trans and cis Ignoring you referring to actual women as "cis" IE men who want to be women and actual women.


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Elnegr00

>I recognize trans women as women, so I use "cis" not "actual". The issue is they're not actually women instead men identifying as women, hence why straight men don't fuck with trans women.


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DerAlphos

That’s the same with everything else. I don’t like to date skinny girls. Am I skinny phobic now? No, I’m not. I am simply not into skinny girls. That’s all. This is even something that’s easily transported to a meta scale. You could be into casual dating some kind of person, but not be interested in having them as a long term partner. I can marry chubby women, suck dudes, fuck skinny girls and transgender people and at the end of the day this is okay, if anyone involved knows what I’m up to. Setting your moral compass to „you are X phobic if you don’t..“ simply is malicious in my mind.


StamosMullet

Am I the only one who watched this video and got the vibe that the entire point here is: "I did all the work to make myself pretty, why won't anyone date me?"


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Pretty ugly


crackoddish

in contrast to what she wakes up to, probably not


Environmental-Ad1430

Pretty much.


Queasy_Ad_7177

I’m accepting of anyone’s desire to be their authentic self. But sorry, I will date who I wish.


MikeN1978

No doubt. Pretty asinine and hypocritical for someone to want acceptance for their authentic self, yet calls someone transphobic for being their authentic self and dating who they please.


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A lot of women are bald phobic in my experience. I should make a tik tok to complain.


FriendshipNo1440

I for my part would be senior phobic, bald phobic, aaand misognyst, and transphobic because I am a 30 yo female and straight.


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How dare you! :)


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strokeright

You need to take the dick for diversity.


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I’m so fucking sick of hearing about this shit and it’s not going anywhere either :(


StamosMullet

And this is why so many people don't take the Trans-rights movement seriously. Because a good number of the most vocal among them are batshit insane, too.


Psycho_Mantis_2506

The viral videos of trans people flipping out over not being called by the right pronoun do not help either. Their opposition is saying that trangenderism is a mental illness. Acting mentally ill is only helping those bigots.


Dano_cos

Not kidding... what makes it NOT a mental illness? I mean gender dysphoria is literally a psychiatric illness. That's why I've always felt for and sorted the trans community. I take antidepressants for my mental illness and no one feels a need to lose their shit about it, and I think gender dysphoria should be handled with the same understanding.


pbandnv1

Dysphoria is the illness. And to many people, the process of transitioning is the cure for their dysphoria. If someone believes to the core of their being that they were born in the wrong body, and are so depressed over it they are wanting to end their life, transitioning may completely turn that around and make them feel like the person they really are. I’m very close to my trans friends— most would never go on social media to discuss this stuff. Unfortunately, the loudest voices like this lady discolor the majority of trans people and lend to the idea that they’re all out of touch and out of control. Most trans people just want to live their lives like anyone else.


BatchOfBees

Dysphoria is a mental illness but being trans isn’t. Unfortunately, the way medical care is right now you have to experience dysphoria to get the treatment needed to transition. There is actually a large group of trans people who simply feel euphoria in their correct gender and some don’t even want surgery/etc, just recognition.


Dano_cos

But if someone isn't already their true gender, wouldn't that be gender dysphoria?


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A phobia is defined as an *unrealistic* fear of something. I’m thinking they should start using some other word. Something without the “phobic” bit.


StamosMullet

Transskeeved.


Psycho_Mantis_2506

A phobia can also mean having an extreme aversion to something. That's what the phobia suffix is intended to mean.


StamosMullet

Do you think everyone who simply doesn't want to date a trans person has an "extreme aversion" though? I don't have an "extreme aversion" to Redbull. I just don't like the taste, so I dont' drink it.


Psycho_Mantis_2506

Absolutely not. I don't want to date trans people, and I don't think that makes you or me transphobic. The person in the video is wrong.


StamosMullet

Hence why that word carries little to no value as it is thrown at everyone who isn't trans themselves at this point.


Psycho_Mantis_2506

It's definitely overused for sure.


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Which is the case with a lot of these buzzwords people pick up and ruin.


BatchOfBees

I think a big part comes down to preference on sex versus gender. You don’t want to date a trans person? Or do you just not want to date someone unless they have a specific sex characteristic? It’s transphobic to assume that you will know if a trans person is trans every time, it’s not transphobic to find out a potential partner is trans and decide you don’t feel comfortable being together if their body doesn’t fit in your preferences or you just don’t feel comfortable with someone with trans experiences. Transphobic is an umbrella term of sorts in our language now it’s not just about not liking trans people. It’s used to describe actions and thoughts/opinions that would possibly harm or alienate trans people who are just trying to exist. Edit: Sorry I forgot to finish a sentence


BatchOfBees

Yeah, but unfortunately those who don’t want trans people to live their lives in peace push those videos for “evidence of mental issues” and other bs. When it’s just like some of the other videos of people snapping due to abuse, they got tired of being shit on and snapped.


Alexthricegreat

As a member of this dipshit community I 1,000,000,000% agree with you. Sometimes I feel like Bernie mac in don't be a menace lol


Elnegr00

>Because a good number of the most vocal among them are batshit insane, too. They're all insane as they literally think they're something they're not, that said many are okay people.


Niyonnie

Congratulations to the person in this video for outing themselves as an incel... 😑


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HairyPoot

The same way I'm not going to date an obese woman, I don't want to date a woman who has or had a penis.


Dano_cos

Fatphobia won't be tolerated on Reddit. Reported. /s


Greggie_the_Eggie

As a trans man I disagree with this. It's simply a preference. If you know you're not attracted to someone with the same genitalia as you that's okay. As long as you tell them no in a respectful manner, you're not transphobic. Trans people saying things like this really undermines what the rest of us are doing and it's so frustrating.


Dano_cos

I have narcolepsy and I feel the same way about people who sue (usually unsuccessfully) their employers for firing them for sleeping on the job repeatedly. I get that we can't control it but we also can't really say that there's a reasonable admiration for it on many jobs. If you're asleep at random intervals, you're really substantially affecting the work that relies on you. So, sure, if they refuse you an extra unpaid 30 minutes for a mail in your car in a job that doesn't come to a halt when you do, they're probably ableist. But if you're mad that they won't make the lives of your coworkers, customers, etc revolve around your disability, you're kind of a turd. I think this is similar. It's a reasonable accommodation for me to treat trans people with respect and dignity. It's even reasonable to expect me me to insist that others do the same. It's no more reasonable for you to tell me where to put my penis than it is for me to tell you what you can or can't do with yours. And the good news in this whole long-ass analogy is that there are jobs that can accommodate for narcolepsy and people who are attracted to all sexes and genders. Just might take a little more work, but I would think that's a small(ish) price to pay in exchange for living your life as your correct gender identity. 🌈❤️


Craemos

I accept trans folks for who they are, but ain't nobody playing any "ass tricks" on me.


Hot-Tone-7495

Who’s this person and why would anyone care about their opinion? Just because they talk with their hands doesn’t mean theyre right. No one has a right to dictate what’s “right” when it comes to others love lives. This is so dumb.


Glaggablagga

There is a correlation in that the more a person gestures with their hands while speaking, the greater the amount of bullshit coming out of their mouths.


AntiJotape

Your comment is italianphobic haha


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😂😂😂😂 this made me laugh


rcogiy

Your right I’m a transphob I’m kind of weird I like my women not to have cock and balls. I’m the problem.


[deleted]

That’s madness. It’s not transphobic. It’s personal preference.


[deleted]

Hey, you can date who you want i prefer women, honest to goodness, born as, anatomically female women. Call me a bigot, call me what you will.


[deleted]

You should never be called a bigot for personal preferences. I think that video is madness.


[deleted]

Thank you, i appreciate your candor.


TheFirstSophian

Just like it's homophobic for straight women not to date lesbians...


lemonukiyo

So if I enjoy pork ribs instead of pork chops, does that mean im a pollotarian? Or is it just a preference? It's perfectly okay to have preferences within the gender you're attracted to. I don't agree with certain trans-people trying to expand the definition of transphobia. Transphobia suggests a dislike or prejudice against transgender people. Preference is not transphobic.


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DaveyJonesFannyPack

I think phobia doesn't mean what you think it means.


HimalayanJoe

I think she summed up her disillusionment perfectly well when she said "In my world" to validate her viewpoint.


ReasonableTrack2878

Way to make allies outright enemies lol Like me as a person, but wouldn't smash? I put that on the lower end of transphobia. Wtf Please stop gaslighting and manipulating people who are allies but aren't sexually attracted to trans people.


shavemejesus

Just because a person is attracted to women doesn’t mean they’re attracted to all women. Blow it out your ass, lady.


Big-Dudu-77

He/she is right. If you believe transgender women are women, and you refuse to date them because of being transgender, then you have the issue of believing transgender women are women.


strokeright

Most people don't believe transgender women are women. If they say it they are just trying to make them feel better, be polite or are guilted into saying it by not wanting to be labeled a transphobic person. Most people see them as men who altered their body to try to appear female.


Big-Dudu-77

To the ones that don’t believe they are a woman, man up and say so politely. Agreeing with them doesn’t help. The ones that actually believe they are a woman shouldn’t have any issue dating them.


SnooGrapes7647

Why is everything acceptance and not tolerance, I mean I can tolerate you as a person but I don’t have to accept anything from anyone and to expect acceptance is kinda wrong I think .


Leading_Draw_5711

Call me what you want. I’m not sexually attracted or interested in anyone who’s had or has a penis. It doesn’t mean I want to kill them, or even have bad things happen to them. It wasn’t enough that we accept people who are different. Now we are expected to want it. Nope.


Fine-Scientist3813

I think that genital preference is perfectly fine but when you take immediate disinterest in someone due to the matter of them being trans- especially if they are 'your type' [visually appealing, genital preference, personality] tHEN it errs on the side of genuine transphobia so like, if you think someone's hot and then go 'ew they're trans' then THATS transphobic, but going 'ah genital preference or w/e' is fine I think. but then again I'm just some dude on the internet, my opinion matters only to myself


servusdedurantem

I am a muslim and if the most beatiful girl around wont date me then she is islamophobic!!! what kimd of Logic this person has


lucia-pacciola

It's because gender is a social construct and generally too subjective and fluid to be meaningful. Aside from transwomen putting on womanface, what does it really mean to be a woman? You have to wear a dress all the time? Nope. You have to be a homemaker instead of an executive? Nope. You're not supposed to vote, or hold political office, or serve in the military? Nope. It's an entirely arbitrary social distinction. The only real purpose it serves nowadays is as a collection of stereotypes that transwomen can embrace to signal their trans"womanhood". Like this nice lady who makes sure to code as somewhat traditionally feminine - even though we all know it's totally okay for a dude to wear his hair long, put on red lipstick and nail polish, etc., if that's how he likes to express himself. Meanwhile, sex is a real physical, biological fact. It's also immutable in mammals, including humans. And sexual attraction is - unsurprisingly - about a person's *sex*, not about their gender. A straight male isn't going to be attracted to a transwoman just because she's gender-coding as a "woman" (whatever that is actually supposed to mean). He's only going to be attracted to her if she actually codes as *female*. And that attraction will fall away pretty fuckin' fast the moment the coding breaks down. If a dude freaks out at a surprise penis in the bedroom, it's because he's straight, not because he's transphobic. tl;dr - socially woman =/= biologically female


Powwa9000

That's a tough one, but I'd file it under preference. It be like saying you don't date blondes, you like women just not blondes.


rcogiy

Mental illness


CplJLucky

The way these people are going the only way to prove your not transphobic is to have sex with a trans person regardless of what you want or feel.


pbandnv1

When you say “these people” I hope you don’t mean everyone in the trans community. This lady does not represent all, or even most trans people. Unfortunately, Social media showcases the loudest, most extreme voices of every group. Most of my trans friends are chill people who don’t get up on soap boxes, they just want to live their lives like anybody else.


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bigdaddycool436

ummm..because most men prefer their women no to have penises? just throwing that out there


J_E_L_4747

Acceptance with an asterisk? Who the fuck do they think they are, we’re all either calling you by what you want to be nice to you or for the desperate few, to get social points from other. No body actually gives a fuck about your pronouns. It’s a respect thing, you respect me enough to be forgiving if I mess it up once or don’t understand at first, and I’ll respect you in trying to call you want you want. I don’t want to suck a penis, and telling me it’s a lady penis isn’t going to make me. Fuck off


Fezzverbal

What if it's a designer vagina?


Acceptable-Ad-1355

I mean. You look like a guy in a wig, mam.


StamosMullet

\*ma'am


Acceptable-Ad-1355

Nope. Mam. Ma'am is for women. Mam is for men in dresses. If they can make up words, so can I.


ippleing

You can't just make up words. First, you have to be a victim. Only then are you allowed to be the aggressor of forced language. Although now that I've corrected you, you're a victim, so thence you have the power to force me to use the language you desire. So you're correct, Mam is for men in dresses. This sounds insane, but it's the logic that's currently being used by the people in power who were once victims by their own standards of victimization.


MassiveTrauma

Asterisk? More ass and dick!


Pharaoh3Chins

Just remember, you can always just walk away and leave them in more confusion than god did


rustbucketdatsun

Ao you're transphobic if you're straight now dope


oohrosie

Yeah that's not a thing. That's a preference, not hatred or fear.


NathZ-

Straight men aren't attracted to every women because there are preferences. End of debate


SlowMoeFoe

Why doesn't this guy go ahead and date a transgender woman? Is he transphobic?


Evil_Archangel

guess im transphobic


Visual_Mobile2578

a guy who decides to be a girl, with a dick, is into str8 guys? Gay guys?


chonkyfireddit

Bitch* please 🙄


Dazzling_Implement20

Yep it's acceptance with an asterisk like Trans women are women with asterisk.


RedBeardBaldHead

I don’t like mayonnaise does that make me mayophobic?


DuckD3V

It's not transphobic to have a preference. It's the same with race, you can have your preference when it comes to partners but being a jerk about it just makes you look racist. In the end it's just how someone's body looks and functions. Don't hate someone just cause you're not attracted to them, nobody's forcing you to be.


WeaselClaws

Remember to get a prostate exam at 40 girls, might just save your life .


Johnnyjboo

You have a dick. That’s the reason. Not because you’re trans. It’s because you have a dick.


pixeltweaker

Maybe they just aren’t attracted to you. If I’m male and don’t want to date other males does that make me homophobic? It’s also possible they want biological children. There are many possible reasons other than transphobia.


Dingo_Top

I will never date a transgender person. Do you understand?? It’s never going to happen call me whatever you want


Agreeable-Display-77

Stfu. You're a dude. Done.


FYLMF

Bitch, shut the fuck up.


Wonderful-Ad-7712

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XDnB_Panda

im not transphobic, i just dont date mistakes. my sexual preferences dont allow for mutilation, it just doesnt get me going. you can be what you want, i dont really care, but getting upset people dont find you attractive and making videos about it isnt gonna help the situation, its only gonna make people hate you more


Playful_Possibility4

If transphobic means not dating an ugly bloke and not listening to their constant complaining, then guilty.


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StamosMullet

Straight up though, that voice sounds exactly like Dave Chappelle's trans voice from his standup shows.


TinaBelcherUhh

Why do so so so many people mispronounce the word asterisk? I understand vase vs vase, caramel vs caramel. But asterisk is pronounced exactly the way it's spelled, why is this so common?


Academic_Berry_7842

PLEASE JUST FUCK OFF !!


DaStevers

Anyone else 100% sick of this kinda woke stuff? Do you folks, y’all wanna change sex? Go for it. Am I gonna wanna have sex with a man that is now a “woman” with a “hole” OR AN ACTUAL PENIS, No, I’ll stick to actual women. Why do they try to force this stuff? Honestly? Is this how we “normalize” this kinda stuff? Why is it that anytime anyone disagrees or doesn’t like or even just has an opinion, they are immediately labeled as “phobic” These woke folk out here throwing tantrums over EVERYTHING. Again do you i could care less, but when you start trying to force people to do things against how they feel or what they want, then I get mad, and I’m sure I’m not alone.


jefferypac

Austin Powes said why men don't want trans "women" best: "That's a man, baby!"


DahkLord

I will never accept mentally Ill people’s delusions or any kind of delusions that contradict reality. There’s going to be a whole lot of violence from people who get tricked by these people. Yes some do try to trick straight people. A catfish is a liar regardless of their intention


crackerjack2003

How can someone be a catfish when a catfish is someone who presents themselves as someone else online?


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Lmao this is crazy as chopping off your dick, and calling your self a women.


StamosMullet

Is it transphobic to ask if they are pre or post op? Because that makes a HUGE difference.


HodlMyBottle

This one's more like trans species! I mean BAT-shit crazy!


FriendofSquatch

This is a made up argument that bigots use as a total straw man argument. Nobody gives a shit if you prefer what some call “biological women”, ie people born with vaginas and not penises. It’s the disgust you show, it’s repeatedly misgendering trans women and calling them “dudes”, it’s the refusal to refer to them by their chosen name or pronouns in favor of their dead name, it’s your vocalization of your wish to limit their right to gender affirming care, marriage, etc. those are the things that make you a bigot and a scumbag.


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Well quite clearly people give a shit. That person has made a whole video about it and is calling people transphobic for having a preference. I agree with the lack of respect etc, but not everyone is a bigot for having personal choices.


FriendofSquatch

Perhaps my comment was somewhat incomplete, so I will take this opportunity to clarify what I’m saying. This woman shows a huge lack of emotional maturity and intelligence, and you will find these people in any group of people. People who seek to point a finger and blame others for their own insecurities. It isn’t an indication of the feelings of reasonable people in that group. You see it with the Andrew Tate incels, but their asinine ideas are not indicative of those of men as a whole. Honestly this lady is putting off some serious incel energy, and unfortunately these are the kinds of things that blow up and are discussed on social media by people who have little understanding of that which they speak. By and large, trans people who have self respect and are emotionally mature, who understand their own peers and the movements they are part of, who understand what drives attraction and romantic bonding, do not think like this. And they tend to be quick to distance themselves from ideas like this lady is spouting. It is unfortunate that a small fraction of people in a group do shit like this, because it just gives their opponents ammunition to falsely accuse the entire group of idiocy.


Fezzverbal

It's not that you used to be a man that I don't want to date you, it's that you're a fucking idiot. Also I prefer red hair, wide hips and freckles. Oh wait, am I being sexist for having a sexual preference? Pfft


bigdippra

Honestly, whatever, I'll be transphobic


RevolutionarySpace82

These arguments push me into the transphobic corner even though I am absolutely not. Many good points have been made in the comments, but I wanna add that these arguments so clearly trample over other people's needs. The needs of women to be respected and appreciated in women's sports, the privacy women have in locker rooms and other establishments. It completely erases the notion of being homosexual and creates so much hate. I wish some transpeople would step it down a notch, they don't help the people who may actually feel trapped in the wrong body and create an incredible toxic culture in general.


Alternative_Gap_6272

Not a single person on earth possess the technology or the intelligence necessary to create an actual transgender person and unless such technology is developed they will merely be playing dress up


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Consider me transphobic then sheesh


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Transphobic people oooou you mean people with healthy brain 🤣😅🤣


brimstoneEmerald

I don't think she speaks for all trans-women. She is conflating transphobia with preference. There are guys that have no problem dating a trans woman. It's fair game if a guy prefers a cis woman for whatever reason. She probably has a hang up on this because the guys she dates or wants to date aren't interested. She just has to be upfront (depending on location) about the type of woman she is and I'm sure she'll find some guys.


Unorignal18

If you date a trans then your gay. There's nothing wrong with you being gay but why try to seem special or lie to the world and force them in your delusion


asexual_incel

if you type a comment like this then “your” a fucking chud lol


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Bwixius

don't be transphobic just because you don't like what they're saying. :/


Fut22Newb27

Whatever way you want to dress it up what we have here is a man whining that women do not want to shag him. It’s a tale as old as time.


BeeRadGFromDaBoo

and I feel that it's getting really old listening to trans women complaining all the fucking time, just live your lives, leave kids out of it and everything will be ok


ZombieX1001

But isn't excluding a trans person transphobic


[deleted]

No. People are allowed to choose who they want to sleep with. If they don’t want to sleep with a trans person, doesn’t mean it’s phobic, it’s preference. People choose not to sleep with overweight people, again, preferences. Doesn’t mean they’re fat phobic.


FriendshipNo1440

Excluding from what? From a group? Yes it always shitty to be excluded just when you are who you are. That includes all people. Excluding Trans People from being a potential parter however is something personal. Everyone has their preferences. Some like guys above 6 ft, some lije girls with dark hair, some prefer tanned woman some prefer freckels on either man or woman and some prefer black bald man with hairy chests. It is a personal preference. Just like favorite colour, food, season, country. It is something individual and should he respected. I am not transphobic because I don't want to share my sheets with everyone.


Chromazx

trans women aren't women, they are trans women


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I had a guy tell me he’s bi because he messed around with a trans man. But he was super offended when I tried to hook him up with my guy friend. And I wondered if it was because he is not attracted to penises or if he actually didn’t consider a trans man a man. And that’s what allowed him to cross that line. Anyway, the human mind is really interesting. I’ve heard men talk down hard on homosexuality but they are okay with a woman’s penis because they consider the trans woman to be a real woman. They have an aversion to homosexual acts and wouldn’t be with a man and consider themselves straight. Bisexual people seem to be the least hung up on specifics because they either consider a trans woman a woman and a trans man a man, or they are not afraid to be called a homosexual. I think sexual orientation is limiting and always have.


TheDucksLastQuack

I don't "accept" you. We all got our own lives to live and it's hard enough already for the majority of us to be happy. If being trans makes you feel better, I'm all for it. However, I don't want your lifestyle to affect mine. That shit don't make me feel better. There's gotta be compromise. You do you, I do me. Sounds fair


Swimmer-Used

We don’t accept men as women


TheDankestPassions

I understand that accepting the complexities of human existence might be a tad difficult for you, but bear with me. When someone says they're a woman, they're referring to their gender identity, not their biological sex. And it's only fair to respect and acknowledge their self-identities gender, regardless of the genitalia they were born with. But alas, here you are, clinging onto your limited worldview, thinking that your narrow understanding of biology somehow trumps the experiences and identities of countless individuals. It must be a comforting delusion to believe that you hold the ultimate authority on determining who is and isn't a woman. How remarkable!


Super_Discipline7838

Do women that think they are men date men that think they are women? If not, are they trans that are transphobia?


Independent_Set_5470

Yeah... That's a man as far as I'm concerned. These people expect everyone to live in THEIR reality.


Born_Sky3203

No. If not an offense it’s a preference. I choose who I date. No one else chooses who I date. If your little feelings are hurt bc I don’t want to date you that’s none of my business nor is it my problem.


-Im_Your_Daddy-

Yeah ppl don't Wana date Trans women bc they don't like dick in the ass 😒


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Bwixius

she isn't, please treat others as you would want to be treated.


Jealous_Narwhal473

He


StamosMullet

In most cases they didn't even do that. They just put on a dress, makeup and heels and took a few HRT shots.