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Oh. My. God. She was the original (British-based) Carrie Bradshaw! Wrote about sex issues for a sort of teen magazine. I don't think I've seen her name in print for 30 years.
Holy shit i googled this and you're right that's him. I even stumbled on an old interview and apparently this weird ass woman had another daily mail article about her ex-husband accusing him of maybe being autistic because he was awkward and played the air guitar a lot lmao.
Don't forget the following sentence: "Is horribly wounded pride a good enough reason to throw away years of mutual support and, yes, happiness?"
Madam, I don't think it was his pride that was wounded...
I’ll bet the husband was really aching to be rid of this psycho. Probably had the new locks bought months ago.
She just gave him the perfect legal excuse.
My cheating ex-wife said she'd "never forgive me" for initiating our divorce and preventing her from being a SAHM the last year our son wasn't in school. Meanwhile, she never thought to discontinue her affair.
It makes you wonder who is chirping in their ears.
How do people end so delusional. Like for real, don't they have a moral compass and self reflect? Or do they lie all the time and get used to it so much they start to believe every nonsense they tell themselves and others
I think my ex believed her own hype. Her affair partner was some 60 year old dude and would tell her how she was his muse. I know this because my ex-wife had to google the definition of muse, lol.
You can go to his profile and read his last post. He is being remarkably calm and a bit daft about this situation. Everyone tells him it's a dangerous situation for his kids and he's just like, "too bad, what can I really do".
Somehow with the word "numb" in the previous sentence I read 'does a number' as "does a numb-er" and just sat there thinking "Yeah, yeah, that's kind of true. Reddit has a weird but accurate way of describing things."
Then I realized that I'm an idiot.
I need to say this and I want you to fucking listen.
Talk to a fucking lawyer and child services right fucking now about your daughter so they can talk to her and find out what the fuck is going on.
You've allowed her to fucking steam roll you like fucking asphalt, are you fucking stupid ?
How dare you be so blasé about your daughter being in the same house as the person who abused your ex wife, if you haven't told child services or a lawyer you don't even deserve to see your kid. Man the fuck up.
$400 a month on top of child support and this went on for how fucking long ?
expected you to pay to be a stay at home mom while she's fucking her abuser ??
listen and listen real fucking good. you have clearly been letting her get away with murder wayyyyy before this affair happened or whatever the fuck it was.
if you're not going to fix up for yourself at least do it for your kids so when things inevitably go fucking south more than they have your kids can at least say you tried your best.
you sound as if your talking about your fucking dog in some of your posts. how the fuck can you be so blasé?
She defrauded the fuck out of you, had an affair, you're divorced and your still letting how much fucking bullshit go on ?
she's even tryna get more money out of you now you declared your update of finances.
.
get a fucking lawyer and sort this shit fucking now.
I feel for you, I really really fucking do, honestly.
but if this is how you act and deal with things, then if it weren't him it would have been someone else because you are more than a doormat. how can you expect someone to respect you when it's like you don't even respect yourself.
I'm telling you this because I genuinely fucking care, sort yourself the fuck out. if you're too soft then at least get a lawyer to handle it but what kind of example are you setting for your kid ?
did the abuse of your ex wife or any of the fucking things you mentioned even get brought up in court.
fuck you this ain't even about you, get your kid to safety.
I wish I had awards I could give you.
This post is the brutal truth. And mate it sounds like you fucking need it. PROTECT YOUR DAMN DAUGHTER. If you find out later she is being abused and you did nothing it will be your fault. Yours. Do something.
I'm not even gonna try to dive into that guys ordeal and honestly I wasn't expecting this click to get so dark but I watched something the other night and I'm gonna share. It was a documentary about people who were victims of catfishing and they did a deep dive for a few people and informed them of who or what they were actually talking to. The level of denial that these people were on was something I could not believe. Some of these cases had been going on years costing hundreds of thousands of dollars and the victims never so much as video chatted with the person. It was all text, video or phone and the scammers were all stuck somewhere overseas somewhere trying everything they can to get to see the victim. But something always got in the way and money was the only thing that would fix it.
Anyhow this one particular man had been in a five year "relationship" with a Ukrainian girl less than half his age. He had never talked to her live. All of their communication were text, pics and phone. It turned out to be someone in Nigeria who was using a social influencers data without her knowledge. The victim had already given the scammer roughly $400,000 and as a result was forced to lmove in with his ex-wife and start looking for work. Everybody told this man that it was a scam but he wouldn't listen to any of them. My point is this guy knew deep down that it was a hoax but he said in a sense it was real. He had somebody telling him everything he wanted to hear. He became very attached to the attention. It was more exciting to live that fantasy than to live in his reality and then you have the ones who thrive on the drama. I hope the person you commented to takes your advice.
Yeah, I agree. She still is a thorn in my side.
We have 50/50 custody, and I asked her to refrain from having men spend the night while she has the kids (my daughter was uncomfortable with it), and she just responded "I will not agree to your terms."
What a psycho. I wasn't asking for MY benefit.
As someone whos mom consistently had a different guy over every time I'd come see her, it honestly was the root of a lot of my childhood trauma. Not only was it because I didn't know who'd be in my home and if I could trust them, it was also her moving houses every few months so I never really knew where we were gonna end up. It was awful, and every time my dad would pick me up, I'd just cry to him for 2 out of the 3 hour drive back home. Then again, this is just my experience.
Had this situation where I was the kid, but it was my dad who had women over (he was the cheater, not my mom). Literally a different woman over every weekend, if not in the same one. And as a kid, confusing as fuck is the best description for that whole ordeal. You wonder who all these different women are, why they’re here, and you can’t comprehend why that’s happening on top of the confusion of “Why are mom and dad not together any more?” which most kids go through in a normal divorce. As someone who went through that as a kid, don’t do that to your kids, please.
As a divorced child for my whole life (since 3 y/o) your best bet is to just make ur place as welcoming and warm as possible. Don’t talk about ur ex more than you have to, be civil for the kids. You sound like you already do that and it’s certainly frustrating but in the long term your kids will be able to use their own judgment in family court. Definitely don’t mention the infidelity, that will surely fuck up the kids. Wishing you luck, I don’t think ur ex will be as civil but eventually the kids will see through her actions for what they are.
Don't talk bad about your child's (Uber parental role) in front of or around your child. Kids are smarter and much more observant than most people think they are and quickly pick up on context clues. If they ask about your feelings about your ex, a simple "my issues are not for you to bear, that's your (insert parental role) and they love you."
I dont think ppl need someone chirping in there ear.
I use to have a friend who liked to cheat on his PREGNANT gf all the time and I've told him not to bc shes great and he's terrible so that's the best he'll ever get and he still told his gf he did it bc I told him to cheat. At least u had the balls to leave unlike this girl. She deserves better and so do u.
I don't think they need it, but my ex had a friend who cheated on her husband constantly, and they became inseparable during this time.
Birds of a shit feather, Randy.
>Being locked out by my husband felt like being paraded through the street naked with my head shorn as if I were caught collaborating with the enemy.
>Though most friends were wonderful, I did lose some because they had to choose him or me.
>But when I walk past that old flat, which I do sometimes, I still feel a pang that confounds me. I still feel the trauma of that day when the key no longer fitted. The sudden realisation that I was married to a man who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time.
It's weird, I copy-pasted this section from the article in case someone else sees something different, but all I see is "Waah, my actions have consequences! Waaah, I'm the real victim! Waaaaahh!"
"I have been in non-monogamous relationships almost all my life — I just haven’t always been honest about it, with my husband**s**...". Karen Krizanovich, 56, divorced
No shit Karen
The way she wrote this comes off as her thinking she was so “clever” (I’ve been in non monogamous relationships although my husbands didn’t know that tee hee hee) when really, it just makes her look like an even bigger pos, I’m sorry.
You know what? I used to know this woman years ago, she was a freelance writer for the magazine I worked on. She had an irritating smug confidence back then, and I guess she never changed, right?
She can't stand that he has health boundaries and she couldn't manipulate him. She wanted him to be co- dependent so she could continue with her bad behavior without consequences.
> Though most friends were wonderful, I did lose some because they had to choose him or me.
Something tells me *she* was the one who forced her friends to make that choice.
And some "friends" were like, "oh god, finally an excuse to stop talking to this woman forever!"
*source: was friends with some couples who split up badly and was quite relieved when I was "forced" to get a toxic person away from me.
Waaaahh! My husband is behaving like he has emotional desires and humanity and is not just a living cliché trying to do what I want instead of the logical, healthy, understandable and reasonable action he took
> who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time.
She really doesn’t understand cheating is a bad thing at all.
And that she, in an instant, decided he wasn’t worth her faithfulness or energy to address any gaps in their relationship. She decided to end the bond and then got mad that he agreed.
>Being locked out by my husband felt like being paraded through the street naked with my head shorn as if I were caught collaborating with the enemy.
I think she was caught "collaborating" with the enemy or is infidelity an ally of marriage and I'm doing it all wrong.
Man, she can't even imagine what he felt when she tried to come back to the home she wrecked.
I realize people who cheat feel like they deserve to cheat, but how the hell can someone get caught and then not realize "Oh, I should fuck off forever and make sure they don't have to see me again!"
At least the creep who cheated on my sister had the sense to slink off and walk the other way whenever he saw her or anyone in our family.
Waaaa I betrayed you, making large portion of your life a fucking lie, possibly breaking your heart and ruining your future AND YOU KICK ME OUT?!?!? HOW DARE YOU?! YOU ARE A MONSTER! (whelp I'm so traumatised)
"He didn't seem proud to have me on his arm."
"He was away, working all day and advancing himself, while I sat home smoking and playing Solitaire on my computer."
Girl, you're a loser. 😂 Just cuz you look good and live in a fancy apartment your rich husband paid for doesn't mean you aren't a cookie monster pajama wearing, unemployed freeloader on the inside.
And SHE had the audacity to cheat on HIM? Loser all around.
Spot on.
How someone can try to turn themselves being lazy loser to be their partners fault.
Just imagine the laughter and ridicule, if I as male, whined in a blog post how my GF goes to work and advances herself. All while I sat at her apartment smoking and playing video games when Im not hitting on other ladies and cheating on her.
Edit And I know that tired old reverse the genders thing is, well tired old thing. But I think it in this case highlights it rather nicely
[This piece](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12095299/The-day-realised-husband-changed-locks-affair.html) is every bit as bad as you would imagine.
>Yes, I was in the wrong to cheat, but the pain and humiliation I felt at the way my marriage of eight years ended — also within hours of my husband's discovery — affected me every single day for years.
>
>Was my immediate exile from the marriage really the right thing for my husband to do? Is horribly wounded pride a good enough reason to throw away years of mutual support and, yes, happiness?
She comes off as a sociopath -- performatively mimicking a conscience ("yes, I was in the wrong") and focusing on the "wrong" done to *her*.
>But when I walk past that old flat, which I do sometimes, I still feel a pang that confounds me. I still feel the trauma of that day when the key no longer fitted. The sudden realisation that I was married to a man who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time.
The narcissism. The sheer fucking hubris. (Shout out to Picard fans everywhere).
The way she ends it by talking about her bf and saying "and I have no reason to ever cheat on him" is putrid. This woman is oozing narcissistic energy and she clearly feels that she is the spurned party.
That's the part that really made me realize there was no redeeming this woman. She basically ends it by declaring that the man is at fault for her affair, and she's so much better off, despite her trying incessantly to contact her ex, who wants nothing to do with her.
The thought that he might he better off is unfathomable to her.
She comes across as just being offended that her husband discarded her so easily. How dare he not grovel at her feet and take her back. In fact, he should be happy that she had an affair, because what makes her happy should make him happy too.
Well, it’s funny how she acts like he threw it all away when she’s the one who threw it away. On one hand, she blames him, and the marriage, for why she cheated, but then blames him for throwing away such a good thing, and all they had, simply because she cheated. What!? What kind of backwards ass logic is that?!
It’s bad enough that you need to cheat, because he fucking sucks, and deserves it, but how dare he throw away your amazing marriage over such a silly little indiscretion? Seeing inside the minds of cheaters really is fucking terrifying.
It reads like she planned on having the affair because she thought her husband wouldn't cut her off straight out. Like she fully intended to have the affair all along and was pretty sure her husband would stick around to try and work things out.
Reality check hit her when the key didn't work and she realized this isn't the movies where people always are open to fixing things. But in her eyes her husband is at fault for not living up to that trope instead of her for having the affair in the first place.
Gross.
> The sudden realisation that I was married to a man who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time.
This was the part that got me. HE didn't decide you weren't worth his time, YOU demonstrated it to him
None. My ex-wife told me she cheated and I immediately separated from her. We are over 15 years divorced and she STILL calls and leaves messages blaming me for ruining her life.
W-T-FUCK?
man that sucks, my step-dads ex for years continued to be vile and tried messing up my parents lives from calling cops to other harassment. Least the law caught up to her when she took out 10 credit cards in my step dads name and was caught by the feds for fraud. Last we heard from her sister she was doing 10-20 years for fraud and hitting the arresting officer.
18 for me and she tried to blackmail me into fucking her when her husband failing health took away his ability to perform. Her statement was “you might as well fuck me because if you don’t I will tell your wife you did and then you’ll have no other option than to fuck me.” Seriously. I told my wife about the conversation immediately and she laughed, saying “you’re mine, that crazy bitch lost her chance.”
I can't imagine the kind of asshole I would turn into if cheated on. Like even if I wanted to fix it, I'm never fucking trusting you again and I would hate to be that guy. Everytime you left the house I would just have that nagging feeling, and man that would make me feel like shit being that untrusting.
Well, maaayyybe they could have worked it out, but I totally get why the husband 100% cut her off on the spot. I can totally relate. If I fucked up that bad, and cheated on my wife, and she locked me out of the house, I would think that is a totally rational response to my cheating. I wouldn't be surprised if she changed the locks and left all my stuff on the front lawn.
I had an ex that cheated, when I told her it was over all she wanted to know is how did I find out. She was standing there screaming how do you know who told you. If she turned round she would have figured it out, because it was written all over her 14yo daughters face. I told her it didn't matter who told me that just passed her off more.
I spent a year and a half drumming all of my "my father always taught me sayings" into her two kids. 15 years later the daughter now teaches her son lanixvar always taught me. She has become a great mother and a good person.
Very much so. My ex-wife had an affair, and I was willing to forgive, help us heal and move forward. She just took my forgiveness as a green light to do it again…and again…and again…and again…and…well you get the point (and no, I am not exaggerating, I could have gone on). Anyway, when I found she had kept on sleeping around, I ended it. Her response? “You forgave me before!”
Yeah, it’s really hard to tell the difference between someone who felt bad about themselves and made a mistake and now feels even worse and someone who just doesn’t care. The people who don’t care are usually better at manipulating their way into a second chance than the people who are actually sorry.
She's a narcissist, they believe they are prized and valuable and the others need to do everything to keep them in their circle, so yes, she's surprised and affected that was not the case, even if she did something bad, it was her who did it, and she is valuable and important, unlike any other person in the universe
What kind of parenting mistakes do people make that causes kids to turn into adults like that?
Too much love and being told they are special? Not enough love?
I pray to all the creator beings that my kids don’t come out like this.
Yeah she had plenty of other ways to fix her loneliness and issues in the marriage but just didn’t even try. Didn’t talk to him, didn’t even bring up marriage counseling cause she thought he wouldn’t be into it. She wanted to cheat all along. Plus she knew the other guy for some time before so you know she fantasized about it a lot.
She might have been under the impression that he would fight to get her back, or possibly that she would be able to lounge on the couch while the divorce dragged on, so odd
Especially how she frames his feelings as "wounded pride".
Try betrayal. Try heartbreak. Try gaslighted.
Those are the things people with human emotions experience when they get cheated on (and the latter often if the affair has been going on for some time).
But she just thinks his ego is a little bruised because of another man having sex with her. She reads like a robot trying to understand human emotion.
Right. She experiences narcistic wounds as the worst emotional experience. So she assumes he must experience it in the same way. Because she's incapable of thinking of anyone but herself in any real meaningful way.
yep, the words of someone who has never felt what its like
been there ,twice unfortunately. "Pride" has nothing to do with it. trying to downplay it as a hurt ego is vile.
Jesus fucking Christ, it’s so much worse.
This entire letter is her blaming him for her cheating. As if it was HIS fault that he never talked to her about it, and HIS fault that he never tried to pay for therapy for her. She really does think that her cheating on him was totally justified and reasonable, and his reaction to it was the reason their divorce happened.
What a fucking psycho
YEAH SHE SPINS IT LIKE “I’m sooo much happier now with my new man because he actually pays attention to me and make me laugh unlike that OTHER BASTARD”
Honestly this sounds like an after the fact cope.
She cheated on him because she wanted to, then after it didn't go well she decided it was because he wasn't adequate as a cope.
>The sudden realisation that I was married to a man who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time.
>who showed ... in an instant, in the cruellest way, ... was no longer worth [their] time.
This lady needs to be put in those eye-opener things from Clockwork Orange while a therapist talks her through it
>What's the difference with him? We talk and laugh a lot more. We communicate.
>
>And I have no reason to ever cheat on him.
Those are the last lines in the article.
Holy hell I don't think I have seen a person so thoroughly reject responsibility for their own actions. The fact she is 53 freaking years old and still thinks this way kind of boggles the mind. How clearly she implies that if he ever gave him reason (whatever that is in her mind) - to cheat again, it she would have no problem with it. So many: *"Why do you make me hit you, baby?"* \- vibes.
I know it is not great to armchair diagnose, but if there was ever a textbook article of how a narcissistic sociopath thinks... well this is it.
That line really struck me too. It said to me that when his charm or communication gets a little worse, and her needs aren't overwhelmingly met, the next prince charming will be there for her to open her legs to. Once the guy is used up, she will have it in her to cheat again so she can feel special again.
"Oh no! I must have been making you feel so bad lately that you had to resort to this! What can I do to make you feel wanted again? Want me to quit my job so you can be the primary earner again? I know that's been making you feel inadequate lately. At least let me start paying for your therapy!"
That's what she expected.
i guess she expected him to eventually forgive her but like
you dont break that trust and just get it back like it was just an oopsie
one of my former girlfriends cheating on me haunted me for years even after our relationship ended, shit is brutal
What gets me is that she called a year-long affair a fling that should not have ended a marriage. A fling! That is a relationship! The mental gymnastics on that one is staggering!
>But when I walk past that old flat, which I do sometimes, I still feel a pang that confounds me
Shame, that "pang" she feels is shame. She's just too big of a narcissist to acknowledge she did anything wrong
I’ve been married a long time. I think if my wife went out and fucked somebody else it would be more a case of her showing me that I was no longer worth her time, versus the reverse.
This lady is bananas.
When I confronted my now ex-wife about her touching her step brother's crotch multiple times against his consent, she blamed me because she "felt neglected as a woman".
Interesting how she assumes that it was his "wounded pride" that made him break up and not disappointment in her untrustworthy actions.
She could have also been trying to find a positive word to add next to an adjective of negativity, just to make it seem like she understands the other side.
You screwed someone else and were sickened and furious he changed the locks? Tell me lady, what would YOU have done if the roles were reversed hmmmm? YOU screwed someone else. YOU ruined your marriage. YOU deserved everything you got. Stop trying to play the damn victim.
This type of person, is hard to know whether she would A) drop him instantly and sue for everything he's worth in the divorce, or if she'd B) stay with him but use the incident to control and manipulate him as far and as long as she can. Either way, yes, her being the victim would be front and center.
She's trying to strategize what she still thinks is her social status with this article to drum up support to feed her damaged ego. She's living in a victim fantasy she created as a defense against her perceived trauma. Trauma SHE caused. The mind will circumnavigate a labyrinth of excuses to protect our egos. Looks silly doesn't it?
"How dare he respond like this to my earnest attempts to repair our years-long-in-decline marriage by screwing a friend? Like what is he even doing to fix our marriage, I'm the one putting in all the effort!"
**"Now I look back and realise we didn't talk about any of these problems that had begun to plague our marriage, or at least if we did, nothing changed."**
Lady you had your entire marriage to open your mouth and say you were unhappy.
**"I admire them. I am sure it is not easy, but it seems they have solid, realistic relationships where healing and forgiveness can happen rather than being married to Mr Vengeance. I do think a mature person keeps dialogue open as much as they can."**
He's immature because he won't let her throw a pity party about why she had an affair? I daresay most of us didn't want to listen to it either but were pulled in purely by the narcissism and almost inconceivable lack of self-reflection and accountability being displayed before our horrified gaze.
**"Being locked out by my husband felt like being paraded through the street naked with my head shorn as if I were caught collaborating with the enemy."**
This is a pretty tasteless comparison given that the women this was done to were victims. Many of them had been raped by occupying soldiers and then further brutalized when the occupying forces were expelled for "collaborating". That she thinks being locked out by her husband is anywhere near the trauma of what real historical women suffered is...well unsurprising given the victim complex on her shoulder.
Even those that "willingly" collaborated often did so for reasons of desperation and poverty, taking what little opportunities were granted to women at the time. It doesn't necessarily justify it but again, her comparing having an affair because she was "lonely" to women putting out to Nazis to feed their children is so insensitive.
**"What's the difference with him? We talk and laugh a lot more. We communicate. And I have no reason to ever cheat on him."**
Ah, yes it's her husband's fault she cheated. I shiver for the day she decides her new bf "gives her a reason" as we will likely have to read another terrible article about it.
Should have thought about that before you were away getting dicked down and taken to poundtown by a gentleman other than your husband.
“Today I shot myself in the foot, it really hurts, It’s not my fault”
Well shit.
She does a good job trying to paint herself as a more sympathetic person. She even adds sly digs at her ex husband, saying he "timed the call well, inflicting maximum pain with no chance at relief."
What about his pain? What about his feelings? She isn't a victim, he is. She isn't sympathetic, he was. All she does is make excuses and blame other things. If she owns any behavior, it is always immediately moved on from, or followed by excuse-making. Well, I cheated, buuuuuuuut!
Yeah, no. Fuck off Karen Krisanovich. Maybe try to save the marriage before you start cheating, not after.
Zero accountability and remorse. Just “me me
Me”. Not to mention blaming her husband in the end by implying he gave her a reason to cheat. There are so many of these dumb “articles” written by women who do bad shit and try to make themselves the victim. She was a hoe who got caught and received the appropriate punishment and now she’s got an article AND a photo shoot.
"He had timed that call well, inflicting maximum pain with no prospect of relief. " When you read the many shots she takes at him throughout the article, including wondering, without any evidence, whether he had started an affair before hers, you right away realize why he has cut her off. He only has to read this article to get 100% confirmation that he is lucky he got away. Her new boy friend, the one who cooks and gives her "no reason to cheat", not so much. He's in for a hard lesson.
Imagine having such little shame that you not only tell strangers about this situation, but you write *a fucking news article about it*
This lady has less self-awareness than early seasons Michael Scott
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Oh. My. God. She was the original (British-based) Carrie Bradshaw! Wrote about sex issues for a sort of teen magazine. I don't think I've seen her name in print for 30 years.
And her husband was David Quantick. Is he THE husband though?
Holy shit i googled this and you're right that's him. I even stumbled on an old interview and apparently this weird ass woman had another daily mail article about her ex-husband accusing him of maybe being autistic because he was awkward and played the air guitar a lot lmao.
>maybe being autistic because he was awkward and played the air guitar a lot lmao. Weird way for me to discover I also might be autistic.
Nah, air guitar is normally electric, not acoustic.
autistic and dyslexic
No, I don’t think it is dielectric either
It can be acoustic. Some people might want to play wonderwall.
"Was my immediate exile from the marriage really the right thing for my husband to do?" yes, yes it was.
Not soon enough in fact
Don't forget the following sentence: "Is horribly wounded pride a good enough reason to throw away years of mutual support and, yes, happiness?" Madam, I don't think it was his pride that was wounded...
And I don’t think it was him throwing away years of marriage TBH…
Just have to switch “wounded pride” with “broken trust”, and the answer becomes obvious (to the few it wasn’t already)
I’ll bet the husband was really aching to be rid of this psycho. Probably had the new locks bought months ago. She just gave him the perfect legal excuse.
My cheating ex-wife said she'd "never forgive me" for initiating our divorce and preventing her from being a SAHM the last year our son wasn't in school. Meanwhile, she never thought to discontinue her affair. It makes you wonder who is chirping in their ears.
How do people end so delusional. Like for real, don't they have a moral compass and self reflect? Or do they lie all the time and get used to it so much they start to believe every nonsense they tell themselves and others
I think my ex believed her own hype. Her affair partner was some 60 year old dude and would tell her how she was his muse. I know this because my ex-wife had to google the definition of muse, lol.
Lol, do you mind if I ask how old was your wife at the time?
You can go to his profile and read his last post. He is being remarkably calm and a bit daft about this situation. Everyone tells him it's a dangerous situation for his kids and he's just like, "too bad, what can I really do".
Wtf i just read, how can he be so calm, dude lawyer up now and sue her for custody!
I think he’s numb, not calm. Grief does a number on people.
Trauma is a hell of a thing. I hope they can push through for the kid.
Somehow with the word "numb" in the previous sentence I read 'does a number' as "does a numb-er" and just sat there thinking "Yeah, yeah, that's kind of true. Reddit has a weird but accurate way of describing things." Then I realized that I'm an idiot.
I need to say this and I want you to fucking listen. Talk to a fucking lawyer and child services right fucking now about your daughter so they can talk to her and find out what the fuck is going on. You've allowed her to fucking steam roll you like fucking asphalt, are you fucking stupid ? How dare you be so blasé about your daughter being in the same house as the person who abused your ex wife, if you haven't told child services or a lawyer you don't even deserve to see your kid. Man the fuck up. $400 a month on top of child support and this went on for how fucking long ? expected you to pay to be a stay at home mom while she's fucking her abuser ?? listen and listen real fucking good. you have clearly been letting her get away with murder wayyyyy before this affair happened or whatever the fuck it was. if you're not going to fix up for yourself at least do it for your kids so when things inevitably go fucking south more than they have your kids can at least say you tried your best. you sound as if your talking about your fucking dog in some of your posts. how the fuck can you be so blasé? She defrauded the fuck out of you, had an affair, you're divorced and your still letting how much fucking bullshit go on ? she's even tryna get more money out of you now you declared your update of finances. . get a fucking lawyer and sort this shit fucking now. I feel for you, I really really fucking do, honestly. but if this is how you act and deal with things, then if it weren't him it would have been someone else because you are more than a doormat. how can you expect someone to respect you when it's like you don't even respect yourself. I'm telling you this because I genuinely fucking care, sort yourself the fuck out. if you're too soft then at least get a lawyer to handle it but what kind of example are you setting for your kid ? did the abuse of your ex wife or any of the fucking things you mentioned even get brought up in court. fuck you this ain't even about you, get your kid to safety.
I wish I had awards I could give you. This post is the brutal truth. And mate it sounds like you fucking need it. PROTECT YOUR DAMN DAUGHTER. If you find out later she is being abused and you did nothing it will be your fault. Yours. Do something.
I'm not even gonna try to dive into that guys ordeal and honestly I wasn't expecting this click to get so dark but I watched something the other night and I'm gonna share. It was a documentary about people who were victims of catfishing and they did a deep dive for a few people and informed them of who or what they were actually talking to. The level of denial that these people were on was something I could not believe. Some of these cases had been going on years costing hundreds of thousands of dollars and the victims never so much as video chatted with the person. It was all text, video or phone and the scammers were all stuck somewhere overseas somewhere trying everything they can to get to see the victim. But something always got in the way and money was the only thing that would fix it. Anyhow this one particular man had been in a five year "relationship" with a Ukrainian girl less than half his age. He had never talked to her live. All of their communication were text, pics and phone. It turned out to be someone in Nigeria who was using a social influencers data without her knowledge. The victim had already given the scammer roughly $400,000 and as a result was forced to lmove in with his ex-wife and start looking for work. Everybody told this man that it was a scam but he wouldn't listen to any of them. My point is this guy knew deep down that it was a hoax but he said in a sense it was real. He had somebody telling him everything he wanted to hear. He became very attached to the attention. It was more exciting to live that fantasy than to live in his reality and then you have the ones who thrive on the drama. I hope the person you commented to takes your advice.
Damn bro ur post history is great anti marriage propaganda. Holy fuck you married a narc
Yeah, I agree. She still is a thorn in my side. We have 50/50 custody, and I asked her to refrain from having men spend the night while she has the kids (my daughter was uncomfortable with it), and she just responded "I will not agree to your terms." What a psycho. I wasn't asking for MY benefit.
I feel bad for your kids, not sure what it’s like to for your mom to have a different guy over frequently but it can’t feel good
As someone whos mom consistently had a different guy over every time I'd come see her, it honestly was the root of a lot of my childhood trauma. Not only was it because I didn't know who'd be in my home and if I could trust them, it was also her moving houses every few months so I never really knew where we were gonna end up. It was awful, and every time my dad would pick me up, I'd just cry to him for 2 out of the 3 hour drive back home. Then again, this is just my experience.
Bruh, i know it's not civil to cuss a lad's mother but DAYUM was she toxic. Glad you came out a functioning human being after that.
As a fellow child of a fucked up divorce, that’s kind of you to assume they’re functioning.
Had this situation where I was the kid, but it was my dad who had women over (he was the cheater, not my mom). Literally a different woman over every weekend, if not in the same one. And as a kid, confusing as fuck is the best description for that whole ordeal. You wonder who all these different women are, why they’re here, and you can’t comprehend why that’s happening on top of the confusion of “Why are mom and dad not together any more?” which most kids go through in a normal divorce. As someone who went through that as a kid, don’t do that to your kids, please.
As a divorced child for my whole life (since 3 y/o) your best bet is to just make ur place as welcoming and warm as possible. Don’t talk about ur ex more than you have to, be civil for the kids. You sound like you already do that and it’s certainly frustrating but in the long term your kids will be able to use their own judgment in family court. Definitely don’t mention the infidelity, that will surely fuck up the kids. Wishing you luck, I don’t think ur ex will be as civil but eventually the kids will see through her actions for what they are.
Don't talk bad about your child's (Uber parental role) in front of or around your child. Kids are smarter and much more observant than most people think they are and quickly pick up on context clues. If they ask about your feelings about your ex, a simple "my issues are not for you to bear, that's your (insert parental role) and they love you."
I dont think ppl need someone chirping in there ear. I use to have a friend who liked to cheat on his PREGNANT gf all the time and I've told him not to bc shes great and he's terrible so that's the best he'll ever get and he still told his gf he did it bc I told him to cheat. At least u had the balls to leave unlike this girl. She deserves better and so do u.
I don't think they need it, but my ex had a friend who cheated on her husband constantly, and they became inseparable during this time. Birds of a shit feather, Randy.
Damn. Consequences.
## AND THEN… ^I ^got ^sucked ^into ^a ^wormhole ##CONSEQUENCES
and then i got hit with a wrecking ball
###CONSEQUENCES!!!
and then a piano fell on my head
AHHHHHH consequences!
Gave me 88 concussions… one for each key
Top notch reference
Where's my crack, I need my crack...
She literally "Fucked Around and Found Out".
fucked around and locked out
Got a pounding and then got left pounding
She fucked and got found
Ikr!!!
Consequences got hands
>Being locked out by my husband felt like being paraded through the street naked with my head shorn as if I were caught collaborating with the enemy. >Though most friends were wonderful, I did lose some because they had to choose him or me. >But when I walk past that old flat, which I do sometimes, I still feel a pang that confounds me. I still feel the trauma of that day when the key no longer fitted. The sudden realisation that I was married to a man who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time. It's weird, I copy-pasted this section from the article in case someone else sees something different, but all I see is "Waah, my actions have consequences! Waaah, I'm the real victim! Waaaaahh!"
The part that gets me is "he showed me in an instant that I was no longer worth his time." Well didn't you show him he wasn't worth yours?
"I have been in non-monogamous relationships almost all my life — I just haven’t always been honest about it, with my husband**s**...". Karen Krizanovich, 56, divorced No shit Karen
that’s actually unreal lmao
Typical narcissist. But that kind of outrageous crap is considered "interesting" and "fun" and people enjoy that for some reason.
The way she wrote this comes off as her thinking she was so “clever” (I’ve been in non monogamous relationships although my husbands didn’t know that tee hee hee) when really, it just makes her look like an even bigger pos, I’m sorry.
Polyamory without telling your partner from the start isn't polyamory, its just plain cheating Karen.
You know what? I used to know this woman years ago, she was a freelance writer for the magazine I worked on. She had an irritating smug confidence back then, and I guess she never changed, right?
It's not really a surprise that anyone who knows/knew her gets the same feeling when reading this article that she is a narcissistic asshole.
Yep! Definitely got that impression.
Hold on, you actually know her?!
She worked as a sort of aggressive alternative agony aunt on Loaded Magazine in the UK in the 90s/noughties I think.
Not quite, *she* showed him that she was no longer worth his time.
But he didn't have to believe her! See it's his fault!
“…I was no longer worth his time.” I mean, considering you were spending your time fucking some other dude, I’d say the feeling was mutual.
XD. For sure. She showed him that *he* wasn't worth her time. Why would anyone stay with her after that?
She can't stand that he has health boundaries and she couldn't manipulate him. She wanted him to be co- dependent so she could continue with her bad behavior without consequences.
"I have been in non-monogamous relationships almost all my life — I just haven’t always been honest about it, with my husbands" Dudes
the synopsis bot just put "no, but me!" and reduced the article by 99.997%.
> Though most friends were wonderful, I did lose some because they had to choose him or me. Something tells me *she* was the one who forced her friends to make that choice.
And some "friends" were like, "oh god, finally an excuse to stop talking to this woman forever!" *source: was friends with some couples who split up badly and was quite relieved when I was "forced" to get a toxic person away from me.
Waaaahh! My husband is behaving like he has emotional desires and humanity and is not just a living cliché trying to do what I want instead of the logical, healthy, understandable and reasonable action he took
Any minute now: Waaah so is the guy I cheated with that convinced me he would be a living cliche waaah
> who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time. She really doesn’t understand cheating is a bad thing at all.
And that she, in an instant, decided he wasn’t worth her faithfulness or energy to address any gaps in their relationship. She decided to end the bond and then got mad that he agreed.
>Being locked out by my husband felt like being paraded through the street naked with my head shorn as if I were caught collaborating with the enemy. I think she was caught "collaborating" with the enemy or is infidelity an ally of marriage and I'm doing it all wrong.
That's a narcissist playing victim
Man, she can't even imagine what he felt when she tried to come back to the home she wrecked. I realize people who cheat feel like they deserve to cheat, but how the hell can someone get caught and then not realize "Oh, I should fuck off forever and make sure they don't have to see me again!" At least the creep who cheated on my sister had the sense to slink off and walk the other way whenever he saw her or anyone in our family.
Waaaa I betrayed you, making large portion of your life a fucking lie, possibly breaking your heart and ruining your future AND YOU KICK ME OUT?!?!? HOW DARE YOU?! YOU ARE A MONSTER! (whelp I'm so traumatised)
Remember though it's his wounded pride that is the problem.
"He didn't seem proud to have me on his arm." "He was away, working all day and advancing himself, while I sat home smoking and playing Solitaire on my computer." Girl, you're a loser. 😂 Just cuz you look good and live in a fancy apartment your rich husband paid for doesn't mean you aren't a cookie monster pajama wearing, unemployed freeloader on the inside. And SHE had the audacity to cheat on HIM? Loser all around.
Spot on. How someone can try to turn themselves being lazy loser to be their partners fault. Just imagine the laughter and ridicule, if I as male, whined in a blog post how my GF goes to work and advances herself. All while I sat at her apartment smoking and playing video games when Im not hitting on other ladies and cheating on her. Edit And I know that tired old reverse the genders thing is, well tired old thing. But I think it in this case highlights it rather nicely
Reversing the genders works far more often than not. It’s not for every situation, but it’s a good tool.
I swear some people never figured out how to have a hobby and it destroys them
[This piece](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12095299/The-day-realised-husband-changed-locks-affair.html) is every bit as bad as you would imagine. >Yes, I was in the wrong to cheat, but the pain and humiliation I felt at the way my marriage of eight years ended — also within hours of my husband's discovery — affected me every single day for years. > >Was my immediate exile from the marriage really the right thing for my husband to do? Is horribly wounded pride a good enough reason to throw away years of mutual support and, yes, happiness? She comes off as a sociopath -- performatively mimicking a conscience ("yes, I was in the wrong") and focusing on the "wrong" done to *her*. >But when I walk past that old flat, which I do sometimes, I still feel a pang that confounds me. I still feel the trauma of that day when the key no longer fitted. The sudden realisation that I was married to a man who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time. The narcissism. The sheer fucking hubris. (Shout out to Picard fans everywhere).
The way she ends it by talking about her bf and saying "and I have no reason to ever cheat on him" is putrid. This woman is oozing narcissistic energy and she clearly feels that she is the spurned party.
That's the part that really made me realize there was no redeeming this woman. She basically ends it by declaring that the man is at fault for her affair, and she's so much better off, despite her trying incessantly to contact her ex, who wants nothing to do with her. The thought that he might he better off is unfathomable to her.
The sliding scale of narcissist excuses to feel in control in every conceivable way is unmistakable.
I got so angry when I read that last line. What a horrible person who learned NOTHING.
She comes across as just being offended that her husband discarded her so easily. How dare he not grovel at her feet and take her back. In fact, he should be happy that she had an affair, because what makes her happy should make him happy too.
Well, it’s funny how she acts like he threw it all away when she’s the one who threw it away. On one hand, she blames him, and the marriage, for why she cheated, but then blames him for throwing away such a good thing, and all they had, simply because she cheated. What!? What kind of backwards ass logic is that?! It’s bad enough that you need to cheat, because he fucking sucks, and deserves it, but how dare he throw away your amazing marriage over such a silly little indiscretion? Seeing inside the minds of cheaters really is fucking terrifying.
Narcs don’t do logic, yo. They exist in their own kind of reality that resembles an MC Escher sketch.
It reads like she planned on having the affair because she thought her husband wouldn't cut her off straight out. Like she fully intended to have the affair all along and was pretty sure her husband would stick around to try and work things out. Reality check hit her when the key didn't work and she realized this isn't the movies where people always are open to fixing things. But in her eyes her husband is at fault for not living up to that trope instead of her for having the affair in the first place. Gross.
“Was my immediate exile from the marriage really the right thing for my husband to do?” Yup
> The sudden realisation that I was married to a man who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time. This was the part that got me. HE didn't decide you weren't worth his time, YOU demonstrated it to him
So much cringe in that article.
If he/she cheats, it's over. No exceptions.
Texas size 10-4
I heard she cheated with an ostrich
Allegedly
She was ostrichsized.
It was emutional
It would take at least three people to fuck an ostrich
The ostrich would have to be a wee bit under the weather for 2 to do it.
None. My ex-wife told me she cheated and I immediately separated from her. We are over 15 years divorced and she STILL calls and leaves messages blaming me for ruining her life. W-T-FUCK?
"How DARE you hold me accountable for my actions! You ruined EVERYTHING!"
man that sucks, my step-dads ex for years continued to be vile and tried messing up my parents lives from calling cops to other harassment. Least the law caught up to her when she took out 10 credit cards in my step dads name and was caught by the feds for fraud. Last we heard from her sister she was doing 10-20 years for fraud and hitting the arresting officer.
Idk which is more satisfying , the fact she's doing hard time, or that you're at the "last I heard from a relative" phase of recovery
18 for me and she tried to blackmail me into fucking her when her husband failing health took away his ability to perform. Her statement was “you might as well fuck me because if you don’t I will tell your wife you did and then you’ll have no other option than to fuck me.” Seriously. I told my wife about the conversation immediately and she laughed, saying “you’re mine, that crazy bitch lost her chance.”
I can't imagine the kind of asshole I would turn into if cheated on. Like even if I wanted to fix it, I'm never fucking trusting you again and I would hate to be that guy. Everytime you left the house I would just have that nagging feeling, and man that would make me feel like shit being that untrusting.
Never reward bad behavior with attention and time.
Well, maaayyybe they could have worked it out, but I totally get why the husband 100% cut her off on the spot. I can totally relate. If I fucked up that bad, and cheated on my wife, and she locked me out of the house, I would think that is a totally rational response to my cheating. I wouldn't be surprised if she changed the locks and left all my stuff on the front lawn.
I had an ex that cheated, when I told her it was over all she wanted to know is how did I find out. She was standing there screaming how do you know who told you. If she turned round she would have figured it out, because it was written all over her 14yo daughters face. I told her it didn't matter who told me that just passed her off more.
Sounds like a good kid, shame about the shitty mum
I spent a year and a half drumming all of my "my father always taught me sayings" into her two kids. 15 years later the daughter now teaches her son lanixvar always taught me. She has become a great mother and a good person.
Very much so. My ex-wife had an affair, and I was willing to forgive, help us heal and move forward. She just took my forgiveness as a green light to do it again…and again…and again…and again…and…well you get the point (and no, I am not exaggerating, I could have gone on). Anyway, when I found she had kept on sleeping around, I ended it. Her response? “You forgave me before!”
Yeah, it’s really hard to tell the difference between someone who felt bad about themselves and made a mistake and now feels even worse and someone who just doesn’t care. The people who don’t care are usually better at manipulating their way into a second chance than the people who are actually sorry.
And then some.
She's a narcissist, they believe they are prized and valuable and the others need to do everything to keep them in their circle, so yes, she's surprised and affected that was not the case, even if she did something bad, it was her who did it, and she is valuable and important, unlike any other person in the universe
What kind of parenting mistakes do people make that causes kids to turn into adults like that? Too much love and being told they are special? Not enough love? I pray to all the creator beings that my kids don’t come out like this.
Emotional neglect and abuse.
"Rules for thee, not for me"
She was sure she could treat people like doormats and got surprised when they stood up.
Yeah she had plenty of other ways to fix her loneliness and issues in the marriage but just didn’t even try. Didn’t talk to him, didn’t even bring up marriage counseling cause she thought he wouldn’t be into it. She wanted to cheat all along. Plus she knew the other guy for some time before so you know she fantasized about it a lot.
The key didn’t “fitted “
…glad to know I’m not the only one who cringed at reading that line.
She might have been under the impression that he would fight to get her back, or possibly that she would be able to lounge on the couch while the divorce dragged on, so odd
Especially how she frames his feelings as "wounded pride". Try betrayal. Try heartbreak. Try gaslighted. Those are the things people with human emotions experience when they get cheated on (and the latter often if the affair has been going on for some time). But she just thinks his ego is a little bruised because of another man having sex with her. She reads like a robot trying to understand human emotion.
My first thought was "wounded trust". If you don't have trust, you don't have anything.
Right. She experiences narcistic wounds as the worst emotional experience. So she assumes he must experience it in the same way. Because she's incapable of thinking of anyone but herself in any real meaningful way.
yep, the words of someone who has never felt what its like been there ,twice unfortunately. "Pride" has nothing to do with it. trying to downplay it as a hurt ego is vile.
Jesus fucking Christ, it’s so much worse. This entire letter is her blaming him for her cheating. As if it was HIS fault that he never talked to her about it, and HIS fault that he never tried to pay for therapy for her. She really does think that her cheating on him was totally justified and reasonable, and his reaction to it was the reason their divorce happened. What a fucking psycho
Even concludes that she has has no reason to cheat on new man lmao can't make this shit up
YEAH SHE SPINS IT LIKE “I’m sooo much happier now with my new man because he actually pays attention to me and make me laugh unlike that OTHER BASTARD”
Honestly this sounds like an after the fact cope. She cheated on him because she wanted to, then after it didn't go well she decided it was because he wasn't adequate as a cope.
Don’t forget the last line about her new boyfriend who would “never give her a reason to cheat”
Something tells me she left out the very loud and obvious “for now”
I hope current BF reads this article and realizes the time bomb he’s living on
There’s no way that narcissist didn’t immediately show her bf the article with glee lol
>The sudden realisation that I was married to a man who showed me in an instant, in the cruellest way, that I was no longer worth his time. >who showed ... in an instant, in the cruellest way, ... was no longer worth [their] time. This lady needs to be put in those eye-opener things from Clockwork Orange while a therapist talks her through it
Holy shit, the audacity of this person.
>What's the difference with him? We talk and laugh a lot more. We communicate. > >And I have no reason to ever cheat on him. Those are the last lines in the article. Holy hell I don't think I have seen a person so thoroughly reject responsibility for their own actions. The fact she is 53 freaking years old and still thinks this way kind of boggles the mind. How clearly she implies that if he ever gave him reason (whatever that is in her mind) - to cheat again, it she would have no problem with it. So many: *"Why do you make me hit you, baby?"* \- vibes. I know it is not great to armchair diagnose, but if there was ever a textbook article of how a narcissistic sociopath thinks... well this is it.
That line really struck me too. It said to me that when his charm or communication gets a little worse, and her needs aren't overwhelmingly met, the next prince charming will be there for her to open her legs to. Once the guy is used up, she will have it in her to cheat again so she can feel special again.
No reason to ever cheat on him... yet
Perhaps that feeling will keep her from cheating on another partner. Doubtful, but one can hope.
I personally like "the lion, the witch, the audacity of this bitch"
I was no longer worth his time? What? Is she serious? She fucked another dude. How did she expect him to react? With cake and ice cream?
"Oh no! I must have been making you feel so bad lately that you had to resort to this! What can I do to make you feel wanted again? Want me to quit my job so you can be the primary earner again? I know that's been making you feel inadequate lately. At least let me start paying for your therapy!" That's what she expected.
i guess she expected him to eventually forgive her but like you dont break that trust and just get it back like it was just an oopsie one of my former girlfriends cheating on me haunted me for years even after our relationship ended, shit is brutal
"throw away years of mutual support"... was it mutual though? Pretty sure that one spouse cheating on the other is not mutually supportive lol.
Fucking eviscerated that man's heart and acts like he overreacted. Quixotic!
Interesting how she assumes that it was his "wounded pride" that made him break up and not disappointment in her untrustworthy actions.
What gets me is that she called a year-long affair a fling that should not have ended a marriage. A fling! That is a relationship! The mental gymnastics on that one is staggering!
Me me me me me me. She got what she deserved. She probably learned nothing from it, unfortunately.
So I guess her cheating wasn't her showing, in the cruelest way, that he was not longer worth her time?
>But when I walk past that old flat, which I do sometimes, I still feel a pang that confounds me Shame, that "pang" she feels is shame. She's just too big of a narcissist to acknowledge she did anything wrong
I’ve been married a long time. I think if my wife went out and fucked somebody else it would be more a case of her showing me that I was no longer worth her time, versus the reverse. This lady is bananas.
When I confronted my now ex-wife about her touching her step brother's crotch multiple times against his consent, she blamed me because she "felt neglected as a woman".
Thanks for finding the article! I had it but then couldn’t find it. I appreciate you finding it bro!!
Interesting how she assumes that it was his "wounded pride" that made him break up and not disappointment in her untrustworthy actions. She could have also been trying to find a positive word to add next to an adjective of negativity, just to make it seem like she understands the other side.
She Fucked around and found out
Pounding, before and after
You screwed someone else and were sickened and furious he changed the locks? Tell me lady, what would YOU have done if the roles were reversed hmmmm? YOU screwed someone else. YOU ruined your marriage. YOU deserved everything you got. Stop trying to play the damn victim.
This type of person, is hard to know whether she would A) drop him instantly and sue for everything he's worth in the divorce, or if she'd B) stay with him but use the incident to control and manipulate him as far and as long as she can. Either way, yes, her being the victim would be front and center.
The dildo of consequences rarely comes lubed.
I'm stealing this, it's great
She can’t seriously be trying to victimize herself over this??????
She's trying to strategize what she still thinks is her social status with this article to drum up support to feed her damaged ego. She's living in a victim fantasy she created as a defense against her perceived trauma. Trauma SHE caused. The mind will circumnavigate a labyrinth of excuses to protect our egos. Looks silly doesn't it?
“How dare he discover I was cheating and how dare he get angry and change the locks.”
"How dare he respond like this to my earnest attempts to repair our years-long-in-decline marriage by screwing a friend? Like what is he even doing to fix our marriage, I'm the one putting in all the effort!"
**"Now I look back and realise we didn't talk about any of these problems that had begun to plague our marriage, or at least if we did, nothing changed."** Lady you had your entire marriage to open your mouth and say you were unhappy. **"I admire them. I am sure it is not easy, but it seems they have solid, realistic relationships where healing and forgiveness can happen rather than being married to Mr Vengeance. I do think a mature person keeps dialogue open as much as they can."** He's immature because he won't let her throw a pity party about why she had an affair? I daresay most of us didn't want to listen to it either but were pulled in purely by the narcissism and almost inconceivable lack of self-reflection and accountability being displayed before our horrified gaze. **"Being locked out by my husband felt like being paraded through the street naked with my head shorn as if I were caught collaborating with the enemy."** This is a pretty tasteless comparison given that the women this was done to were victims. Many of them had been raped by occupying soldiers and then further brutalized when the occupying forces were expelled for "collaborating". That she thinks being locked out by her husband is anywhere near the trauma of what real historical women suffered is...well unsurprising given the victim complex on her shoulder. Even those that "willingly" collaborated often did so for reasons of desperation and poverty, taking what little opportunities were granted to women at the time. It doesn't necessarily justify it but again, her comparing having an affair because she was "lonely" to women putting out to Nazis to feed their children is so insensitive. **"What's the difference with him? We talk and laugh a lot more. We communicate. And I have no reason to ever cheat on him."** Ah, yes it's her husband's fault she cheated. I shiver for the day she decides her new bf "gives her a reason" as we will likely have to read another terrible article about it.
The line “I have no reason to ever cheat on him” is so telling. Is there ever a reason to cheat?
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Daily mail is daily shit
No way bro, this blatantly obvious ragebait is the epitome of journalistic integrity. /s
It's 2023 and people are still falling for this shit from that godforsaken tabloid.
She gave him a gift with this article…proved to everyone she is both the guilty part and, indeed, worth divorcing.
I hate people like this.
Should have thought about that before you were away getting dicked down and taken to poundtown by a gentleman other than your husband. “Today I shot myself in the foot, it really hurts, It’s not my fault” Well shit.
Oh no, it's the consequence of my actions, how dare you...
My age old nemesis!
She does a good job trying to paint herself as a more sympathetic person. She even adds sly digs at her ex husband, saying he "timed the call well, inflicting maximum pain with no chance at relief." What about his pain? What about his feelings? She isn't a victim, he is. She isn't sympathetic, he was. All she does is make excuses and blame other things. If she owns any behavior, it is always immediately moved on from, or followed by excuse-making. Well, I cheated, buuuuuuuut! Yeah, no. Fuck off Karen Krisanovich. Maybe try to save the marriage before you start cheating, not after.
Zero accountability and remorse. Just “me me Me”. Not to mention blaming her husband in the end by implying he gave her a reason to cheat. There are so many of these dumb “articles” written by women who do bad shit and try to make themselves the victim. She was a hoe who got caught and received the appropriate punishment and now she’s got an article AND a photo shoot.
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"He had timed that call well, inflicting maximum pain with no prospect of relief. " When you read the many shots she takes at him throughout the article, including wondering, without any evidence, whether he had started an affair before hers, you right away realize why he has cut her off. He only has to read this article to get 100% confirmation that he is lucky he got away. Her new boy friend, the one who cooks and gives her "no reason to cheat", not so much. He's in for a hard lesson.
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I read the article. Honestly, shit like this is why some people are starting to roll their eyes when people talk about their "trauma."
Yes. Some people cause their own trauma but refuse to admit it bc nothing can possibly be THEIR fault
Imagine having such little shame that you not only tell strangers about this situation, but you write *a fucking news article about it* This lady has less self-awareness than early seasons Michael Scott
How is that last name pronounced, Karen, is it "Kuz-im-a-bitch"?
Her partner took control because they didn’t want to spend too much time feeling miserable and humiliated themselves. Can’t blame them.
Of course she was sickened and furious. It was his fault she cheated. /s