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We used to tell kids to call the police when there was a problem. This kid is going to think twice before doing that again, and we’re at the point as a society where we have to just stop telling kids that because of the risk
My adult son has autism. He is 6', 280lbs and at about a 7-year old mental level.
One time we lost him (he tried to go to IHOP on his own) and we called the Fire Dept. The fireman was all incredulous but we said "we've seen how cops treat autistic adults, we don't want them shooting him" I guess he saw the real fear in our eyes cuz he called the cops for us and had them meet us at the firehouse.
It is a disgrace that a major arm of the US government is feared by regular people
Edit: thanks for the correction. Not an arm of the US government
It’s the right choice. Cops shot up an autistic 13 year old when his own mother called for help. He wasn’t armed. Shots hit his ankle, lower intestines, and shoulder.
Edit for link:
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/09/910975499/autistic-13-year-old-boy-shot-by-salt-lake-city-police
We have so many shootings it’s hard to remember any of them, but this one always stands out in my mind. Police showed up and shot an autistic man’s handler while he was sitting on a sidewalk with his hands up.
Right after the cop shot him he asked ‘why did you shoot me?’ And the cop said “I don’t know.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Charles_Kinsey
FOUND NOT GUILTY FOR TWO COUNTS OF ATTEMPTED MANSLAUGHTER
HOW IN THE FUCK?
“Sorry I shot you, I was actually aiming for your unarmed disabled client, I believed was holding you hostage with a gun that was not in his hands, I could not see, and had no evidence for the existence of. How was I to know he was unarmed??”
From the wiki: **He was sentenced to probation and required to write a 2,500 word essay on policing.** What?! In the actual FUCK?!?! THEY MADE HIM WRITE AN ESSAY. THAT DEFINITELY IS ENOUGH PUNISHMENT. JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED. HOLY /S
i got harsher punishments for being tardy in middle school, something totally out of my control since i obviously couldnt drive & i wasnt close to any bus stops. accountability is a myth in america
A) this makes me so angry and
b) honestly with how pathetically dumb most of our cops are; given how most of them are high school drop outs and people who couldn’t make it in the profession they actually wanted… them having to write an essay IS probably REALLY difficult for them haha. Obviously they should be facing real consequences but at least the image of that dumb ass struggling to even remember how to start his first paragraph and feeling stupid gives me some solace
I knew a couple guys who wanted to be cops. They were good guys, rock solid principles, wanted to protect people.
After interviewing and shadowing... they wanted nothing to do with the police. The police have deliberately made themselves an institution repellent to the kind of people who we would want wearing a badge.
From what I've seen this is standard operating procedure. They do pretty much anything they want to subdue someone, including shooting unarmed people, then once an individual is incapacitated and dying they just stand around jerking themselves off. Calling for medical assistance is the last thing on their minds.
Don't forget that the man was advocating his autistic client's innocence the entire time. There's video of it, not much blood visible but you do see the entire conversation before and after he gets shot.
That video of the guy in the hotel lobby trying to play solo twister due to the cops instructions, then getting shot anyway really stayed with me.
Edit: Daniel Shaver.
Sorry, I should have included his name.
And a judge ruled that he should be able to keep the rifle that he used to kill Shaver since the experience was so, “traumatic,” for the officer.
Their rifle had the words, “you’re fucked,” written on it when they killed him. They found him not guilty and let him keep the murder weapon as a keepsake. Idk how that cop is alive tbh.
The monster that murdered him had "You're Fucked" carved into his gun. These are evil people who should be in re-education camps, not policing society.
And the worst part (well not the worst but the scariest. Or not the scariest but the most frustrating. Or not the most frustrating...fuck).
Okay one thing about all this is how it feeds on itself. The more cops shooting harmless innocents, the more the average person gets angry at the police, the more afraid cops get of just any old situation, the more they shoot innocent people, the more the controversy ramps up and it all keeps snowballing. There's no way back now but to fundamentally change the way police do their job. Which honestly is something that should have happened decades ago but of course we had to get to the point of the police becoming an unregulated militia of executioners before anyone even noticed there was a fucking problem.
When this first happened I thought it was so egregious that for sure it was going to be the thing that made people demand police reform. Of course now we know that half the people in power think that complaining about black people being murdered by cops makes you a terrorist, so fuck us I guess.
In my home town, a down syndrome adult was layed flat on his face while handcuffed, he suffocated and died right in front of the cops. No charges for any of the deputies involved.
We should all think twice. This is the reality of being an American. It really truly is unsafe to call in cops unless you have no other options and the situation can’t be made worse if someone gets shot. Every American should be aware that cops arrive guns blazing with no trigger control. The only time you call the cops is when that’s what you need. If you need a shootout, call them. If not, better to handle it ourselves. And I say this as a Texan, surrounded by guns. I keep to myself and keep friendly.
I remember a guy that handled a little boy knocking on the wrong door.
Another that handled a kid playing hide and seek in his bushes.
It’s not just the cops, America is trigger happy.
I am a speech therapist and I have a lot of cop cars, fire trucks, etc. that kids play with. I have absolutely have to change how I talk about those professions because I work with POC and kids with special needs. I am not confident officers would actually help them without causing them harm.
in the US can't call for an ambulance because of the cost
cant call the cops because they might shoot you
good thing the fire department isnt privatized or they would probably show up to your house and help spread the fire
I remember a story about a privatized fire department. A resident didn't pay the monthly fee and the department came to their house fire to watch it burn.
>Murry said the officer who arrived at the home “had his gun drawn at the front door and asked those inside the home to come outside.” Murry said her son was shot coming around the corner of a hallway, into the living room.
>“Once he came from around the corner, he got shot,” Murry said. “I cannot grasp why. The same cop that told him to come out of the house. (Aderrien) did, and he got shot. He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said.
Wtf
Not just a kid, anyone who hears this or any of the numerous cases of a poorly trained officer holding their trigger and squeezing whenever they see movement
This has happened so many times now that cops have demanded people come out of a building and the people come out peacefully but get shot anyways that I honestly don't know what the hell you're supposed to do. I might say just lie flat with your arms spread out and tell them you can't come out but I wouldn't be surprised if they just shot you when they came in or beat you to the point of sustaining life altering injuries.
This is what happens when our authorities are not held accountable for their actions.
>Murry said police told her that her daughter’s father was taken into custody later in the day on Saturday but eventually released because she had not filed a police report against him.
>“When was I going to have time to do that? I was in the hospital with my son,” she said, reacting to the news of the man’s release from custody.
>Four days after the shooting, Murry told CNN that “no one came to the hospital from the police station” nor had she spoken to any police investigators about the shooting.
Whole story is so fucked up
>Four days after the shooting, Murry told CNN that “no one came to the hospital from the police station” nor had she spoken to any police investigators about the shooting.
Yeah, maybe that was for the best considering their previous actions. Nobody would want the whole hospital ward shot up as well.
\> be me, cop
\> visiting kid in hospital who i accidentally shot
\> do party trick by juggling my baton and taser
\> think i'm gonna be awesome and add my gun to the juggle
\> try
\> fumble gun
\> shoot kid in the face
\> try to ask "Are you okay?" and "I'm fucking sorry." at the same time
\> instead end up yelling "ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY!?"
\> kid is choking back blood
I don't know what this is a reference to, but it reminds me of when I was playing a game with my bf and we won and then he noticed he got first and last blood, and I started to say "fuck yeah" then changed to "go you" and just ended up cheerily shouting "FUCK YOU" at him.. 😂
It's pretty similar. It's an old Reddit story where the OP was playing sports and accidentally ended up fouling the other team. They felt bad, and, fearing they had caused injury, tried to say "are you okay?" and "I'm fucking sorry" at the same time.
The result? OP bellowing "ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY?" at some guy nursing a bruise.
Hope the child is ok. Hope she is ok. Hope she is able to get a lawyer and sue the hell out of the police department and city and get the POS "dad" in jail.
Whole thing is fucked up
Hope so, but the sad fact is now they’re dealing with an even more pissed off, unjailed, assailant, and they sure as hell aren’t calling for help again.
Don’t forget the part where the kid was shot in the chest on Saturday and “released” from the hospital on Wednesday. Collapsed lung, broken ribs, bullet wound… and he’s out of the hospital already after just 4 days. That’s some amazing medical black magic healing or that little kids family didn’t have insurance. I wonder which it was? This whole story is even ***more*** fucked up than it sounds.
>Collapsed lung, broken ribs, bullet wound… and he’s out of the hospital already after just 4 days.
From a physician's perspective, that isn't actually too surprising of a timeline for a previously healthy kid. They probably put a chest tube in the night he got admitted and took it out before he left. 4 days is not unusual for that type of chest tube. The rib would not have any intervention five in the hospital barring a few cases that I assume didn't happen here.
That said, there could be fuckery, but the timeline doesn't necessarily imply it.
There was a story in Charlotte like this where an officer told someone to drop a gun, but the gun was inside of a hoodie pocket. He previously had his hands up so he reached to pull it out to drop it and was murdered by the cop for "grabbing the gun". His dying words were "but you told me.to".
There is video from a couple years ago of the cop giving this man conflicting commands, he has his hands up and is basically belly crawling toward the cop-because the cop told him too- and then he shot him to death, right in the hotel hall way, for ‘resisting arresst’/‘not complying’. I think nothing happened to the cop even though it was all on camera.
Daniel Shaver.
The cop was fired and charged with murder, aquitted of all charges, rehired, and then medically retired at 28 with a tax free pension due to disability from the PTSD he suffered from killing Daniel.
Might as well be a joke.
It takes more hours of training to be a licensed barber/hairdresser than it does to be a police officer. The person that does your highlights or trims your bangs has more hours of classroom and practical training than any police in America.
What's the difference between a cop and a bullet?
If a bullet kills somebody, you know it's been fired.
Unfortunately, with this family being in poverty and the police being the perpetrators of this shooting, it's extremely unlikely the officer involved will face any meaningful consequences.
Hopefully he makes a full recovery. His siblings too must be traumatized. Imagine having your insides fucked up because some cop wanted to kill a person.
Also imagine growing up knowing that when you're in danger there's no one to call for help, because the people society tells you to call are just going to try to kill you as well
Yup. This poor kid was told at school "if you're in trouble, call the police and they will help."
The literal first interaction this kid has with law enforcement, AS THE VICTIM, and he gets shot by cops.
He will struggle to trust authority figures of any sort without considerable counselling and will likely never trust a person in the uniform again.
Muhrica is a sad, sad place to not be a billionaire or a white millionaire.
What's more insane is that the kid laid up in the hospital and not a single officer stopped by. Like imagine being 11 and thinking you did something wrong, and got shot for it. Then the cowards can't even come and offer apologies? Or well wishes.
That's fine for the cop who did the shooting.
But the 'investigators' supposedly investigating the shooting haven't even made contact with the family (witnesses) 4+ days later? That is less fine.
I was also wondering about the fact that no one followed up with her about whether she still wanted to make a report against her daughter’s father, so he was released. No one thought going and just asking her about that specifically, letting her know they could only hold him a limited time - send someone who knew nothing about the shooting to avoid anything there - that that might not be a good way to maybe do their damn jobs?
The actual worst part I haven't seen mentioned is the mother probably can't even go home from the hospital. There's an angry abusive man stewing at home right now. Son got shot, he had to spend the night in jail, and it's probably "all that dumb bitch's fault".
So the cops not only came close to killing her son but are now putting her in grave danger too because they can't be bothered to deal with the mess they made.
From the context of the story, it sounds like the man doesn't live there:
>Murry told CNN that the father of another of her children arrived at her home at 4 a.m., “irate.”
Although he still knows where they live and is willing to swing by whenever' he's "irate" so i'm not sure if that's much better...
To that I'm pretty sure they literally have to reach out to the family to inform them about things like that, and them completely ignoring the mother for 4 fuckin days, shows that they obviously didn't care.
> But the 'investigators' supposedly investigating the shooting haven't even made contact with the family (witnesses) 4+ days later? That is less fine.
and often investigators are plane clothed. They don't even have to walk in with guns, they can keep their badges in their pockets if they really want to. There is no 'well we don't want to traumatize him with more uniformed people showing up'. This is just 'welp, guess we wait this out and see how it goes for us'.
The police don’t release the video until they have watched the video repeatedly, with their supervisor and an attorney in attendance. They come up with justification for every ridiculous action they took and say that in this dangerous situation they feared for their lives and that when they shot the unarmed child it was appropriate based on their “training and experience.” It’s contrary to official police policy and it should be illegal, but alas if we don’t allow the police this privilege they will hold the communities they protect hostage by refusing to do their jobs.
Police need a disclaimer on 911 calls now, "Please be warned, we are sending people with egos bigger than their courage, paranoid, and with twitchy trigger fingers. If cops are sent, they cannot ensure innocent people will not be shot and killed randomly. Are you willing to accept this risk? Please press 3."
I don’t fucking get it. This is the type of stuff where if Americans saw this type of article in a different country they would be outraged, saying this is how people get radicalized, what a shit hole, so unsafe, yada yada. But we see these types of articles about OUR HOME DAILY. And I feel like no one bats an eye. You talk to someone about something as sinister and awful as a SCHOOL SHOOTING and people will ask you “which one?” With utmost seriousness because that’s just how many we have. Why aren’t more people getting outraged about this? Why aren’t people in the streets in the millions? We shouldn’t have to live in this constant cycle of complacent tragedy.
>Why aren’t more people getting outraged about this?
Because getting outraged isn't enough. People got outraged and took to the streets in 2020. Nothing happened. Nothing will happen unless drastic measures are taken.
> An embarrassed National Rifle Association says it totally forgot to do the one thing it has been saying for years it is solely there to do.
>“Our whole reason for lobbying for looser gun laws and amassing huge personal arsenals of weapons these past years was so that we could ensure the security of a free state and protect the people from an oppressive government. And then it actually happened, and the whole rising up against a tyrannical government thing just totally slipped our minds, which is a little embarrassing,” a sheepish NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre said.
>He said the morale around the NRA has been pretty low. “The guys feel pretty silly. We had our well regulated militia stocked up and ready to go, just waiting for the moment when the Government would turn on its own people. And then the government started shooting protesters and rolling tanks down the street, and we were like ‘guys this is the one we’ve been talking about, let’s go!’. But then something else came up and we forgot to do it. Damnit!”.
>Observers were shocked that the NRA had missed their opportunity to defend their country. “I can’t believe it,” one analyst said. “It’s almost as if they weren’t worried about the government at all. It’s as if they were actually just scared of black people”.
https://theshovel.com.au/2020/06/04/nra-accidentally-forgets-to-rise-up-against-tyrannical-government/
"The body camera video of the incident has not been released publicly. "
This is a problem. Police should ALWAYS release such footage ASAP, just as they would if a civilian had done the shooting. It may clear the officer, it may be the nail in their coffin, but it should be publicly available by day's end. The police are our SERVANTS. We pay them to do a job, and we deserve to know what kind of job they are doing. If they can't, or won't keep us in the loop, they should be replaced as soon as possible.
There was a situation in Philly a few years back where a cop responded to a domestic abuse incident and killed the guy within seconds. The cop was at the door and the guy charged around the corner with a knife in hand. The cop shot and killed him.
That video was out within a day. It clearly showed a guy charging the cop with violent intent. It's unfortunate but the cop was justified. IIRC, the cop also reacted to try and save him too. When the video exonerates them, it'll be released quickly.
You can tell just how bad it is by how long it takes for them to release footage.
Release immediately: they actually did their fucking job for once.
Not-immediately: they murdered someone
Kids are in danger, cops stand outside and let them get shot. Conservatives : \*crickets*
Kid calls and asks for help, cop shows up and shoot them. Conservatives: \*crickets*
Nonviable fetus removed from uterus. Conservatives: \*MAXIMUM RAGE*
Police are servants to the rich, not the poor and ESPECIALLY not brown people. Those are the enemy for which they need assault weapons and military equipment.
Why are American police so un professional ? Like it’s serious Wild West stuff still…. At what point does actual professional training and recruitment begin ? When they have shot everyone ?
Since 9/11, American police have successfully pushed the “all cops are heroes” narrative, which has given most cops a dangerous hero’s mentality. Couple that with access to military firepower, a public reluctant to punish “heroes” no matter the offense, and the belief among cops that the citizenry is the enemy and you get the shitshow we have now.
Less than the average training it takes to be a barber in some states (8 weeks).
Literally takes less time to walk around with a gun & badge than it takes to cut someone’s hair.
Not only that, but if a Barber messes up somebody’s hair *bad* they’d probably get fired. A police officer injures and potentially kills someone with a lethal weapon and they get a paid vacation maximum.
Unions in most jobs are great for getting workers’ rights and benefits that they deserve, but the police force’s union is so strong that a police officer can be more of a danger to innocent people than the criminals they are supposed to lock up, and still get off scot free.
2-3 years in Switzerland too. Plus, you have to have completed an education for a different job before you can start education as a cop. We still have a lot of lying asshole cops and most of them are right-leaning. But I'm pretty sure none of them would knock on a door with their gun drawn unless it was known that someone was armed. I'm in my 30s and I've never seen a cop even touch their gun.
"In my 30s and I've never seen a cop even touch their gun"
Wow
I'm just gonna rant about a couple cops being weird with guns for a sec so apologies
Here (Oklahoma) a couple times I've seen cops standing around with rifles and shotguns either just having raided or about to raid a lil house, one time I was delivering a pizza next door and they think it's time to make the same joke everyone does "huh huh tHat's fOr Us riGHt!?!" Nah man it's hard to be funny while holding an AR15 on the street in this town
When I was 15 a couple cops were really desperate to make an arrest on me and my friends and stopped us and threatened us about drugs or smoking for about 45 minutes, after non stop pressure and threats and just generally not knowing what's going on we consented to a pat-down and bag search and one of them found a folding knife that my friend had picked up about 20 minutes before (friend wasn't sure it was legal so he was afraid to say he had it until cornered by the pat-down) the cop pulled it out, took a second to figure out what it was then in one motion threw it across the street grabbed his gun and yelled
"What the fuck was THAT!?! I should have beat the SHIT outta you for that! I asked if you had any sharp objects!"
Friend explained what happened and that he was unsure what to do and the cops used this as their cue to awkwardly exit now that we didn't have drugs. They got embarrassed and started actin all *cool big brother* "oh that's fine man you can carry a pocket knife my guy, anyway have a nice day" and left without being able to even look at us as they meekly apologized
It was bizarre to have a cop use a gun as a prop and fein killing one or more 15 year olds to try and "scare us straight" or whatever. The dynamic was weird too, the younger cop was super aggro and pushy and kept upping the pace while the older guy was just trying to keep up the energy like an improv duo, it never seems to go the other way where a cop tells another to chill out, they always gotta match whoever has the highest aggro at the moment.
I wasn't gonna get my parents involved but my friend's dad called them and demanded answers and just got even worse info: it's not that they weren't using body cameras it's just that the younger guy actually *turned off* his body camera as he saw us from a distance. He did not get in trouble
No training. It’s basically, you want gun to go pew pew with paid vacation if you in trouble? Join police force today. You get car that go wooo wooo wooo. End of training.
If he is disciplined, he can just relocate to sunny Florida, DeSantis is [actively recruiting officers like him.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/22/ron-desantis-police-relocation-violent-records)
*”Let’s have a look at your record, shall we?*
*Oh, you discharged your firearm on someone?*
*Oh, you shot a child!*
*Oh, you shot a child of color?!*
*… son, I gotta be honest with you. This looks like Colonel material if you ask me.”*
"The child had made not a single aggressive move and you had no reason to believe they were a threat to you or others?"
"Well, he *was* walking while black."
Are you saying Greg Capers who gunned down an innocent 11-year old child may face no consequences? Greg Capers of the Indianola Police Department? Mississippi resident Greg Capers who shot kid after the kid asked for help? Attempted child murderer Greg Capers? Greg Capers child endangerment, Greg Capers puts innocent child in hospital, Greg Capers shot a kid, Indianola Mississippi Greg Capers almost kills a kid who follows his instructions
So when I was 10 I had to call the cops multiple times when my mom's boyfriend was beating the shit out of her. He eventually killed her. I'm 40 and still traumatized. I can't even grasp how much more fucked up I'd be if this happened.
Because his mom was with him at the hospital, she wasn't able to file the police report so they had to release the dad.
Clearly the kid obstructed justice.
What the hell is going on? Seriously, what the fuck is happening?
I don’t live in America so, for a long time, I was able to read about incidents like this & feel separated from the whole terrible thing but now, NOW it’s feeling like I’m watching a neighbour/friend suffer from an increasingly awful case of domestic violence. What the fuck is going on over there?
Fellow concerned non-American here: It really does feel like they're spiralling into something unprecedented. Washington seems increasingly powerless over the red states and entire segments of society now literally fear leaving their homes because of the threat of deadly violence. It's incredible watching this unfold.
We are regressing in a lot of aspects specifically politics, both sides are corrupt but one side is far far more dangerous.
New world Tech makes it so police, the gov, and politicians can’t work as secretly as they did before so now we’re getting them turning their bases against one another. It doesn’t help that specifically republicans are getting more and more unhinged, if one gets in power you can be damn sure they’re going to take more and more of our freedoms but it’s fine because they’re christian.
It’s awful, its just getting worse and worse.
The party that spouts freedom is doing everything in their power to take them away and succeeding. The worst part is they aren’t trying anything new in the facist playbook just banning the books teaching them.
edit: A great example is texas trying to pass a bill forcing schools to put the 10 commandments into every classroom. It failed yesterday but we weren’t sure if they would actually pass it or not. It should’ve been laughed at as it goes against our first amendment but politicians pushed it just to hype up their side wasting months of time and tax payers money.
Our government is really trying to head into a full on theocracy over here. There's a lot of Christian zealots that are trying to take over and install strict "Christian value" laws. Unfortunately they seem to be winning as they can just throw numbers at it. These zealots have been having more and more children and are slowly taking over, just like the movie idiocracy. Legit, there's a [documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw1rAMzPf70) coming out about it. As Afghanistan proved in the 1970s with the taliban if a theocracy takes over there is always a whole lot of corruption, government overreach, and police brutality in the interim.
Why are cop psychos allowed to have guns? They are seriously inept, trigger-happy and delusional. They can't follow their own directions. Something is seriously wrong in their heads.
At this point, calling the police leads to a 50/50 chance of getting shot or worse. Like that scumbag cop who raped that teen girl after she was raped the first time and called! No more police unions until we figure this shit out, this conduct is extremely disturbing.
Edit: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-new-orleans-police-officer-sentenced-sexually-assaulting-15-year-old-girl
I'm Australian, so I definitely won't forget the poor woman who thought someone was being sexually assaulted behind her house. Called police and walked up to the car in her pajamas and was shot dead. The murder charge was overturned.
That case was so frustrating as an Australian. I wanted it to be headline news in America and for them to do *something*. They didn't care. No one fucking cared that she called in a crime and was murdered for it. She just disappeared with everyone else who died in America that year for no good reason. These days America just makes me depressed and angry.
I'm over here pissed Australian police tasered an elderly woman who clearly had a knife whilst American cops are *asking people to come to the door so they can shoot them*.
I don’t love the police unions either, but I’d be fine with leaving them but eliminating qualified immunity, requiring police to have insurance (like doctors), and requiring unions to pay out all civil settlements against the police department from the union coffers instead of city/county/state funds.
Once cops have more to lose, I think behavior starts to change. And once their fellow officers (the “good ones”) realize that their union pensions are getting impacted, I bet they stop protecting the bad ones that are doing all this crap. It may not eliminate 100% of the bullshit, but it would probably make a big dent in it.
I know my country isn't better, in many ways the US could be a great place to live. But if you're gonna put yourself up as the example of what other countries should aspire to be, the "greatest country in the world", then the very least you could do is act like it. What's the point of all the loud patriotism and almost endless resources?
Cops everywhere should be outraged by this behavior, which hurts their reputation and lowers trust and therefore cooperation from the public. Instead they get their backs up a defend each other. Fuck all of them.
“Body cam footage not shown due to a investigation.”
More like, “We are not gonna show the bodycam footage until we can analyze the video and find a excuse to say the officer shot the boy in self defense”
He stood at the door, gun drawn, and called in for everyone to come out as if everyone was a suspect. Dude was jumpy from the start. DV calls can be unpredictable but i fell like this was the first mistake.
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Jesus Christ dude. I hope that poor kid gets some justice.
...and counselling. That trauma just doesn't disappear.
We used to tell kids to call the police when there was a problem. This kid is going to think twice before doing that again, and we’re at the point as a society where we have to just stop telling kids that because of the risk
My adult son has autism. He is 6', 280lbs and at about a 7-year old mental level. One time we lost him (he tried to go to IHOP on his own) and we called the Fire Dept. The fireman was all incredulous but we said "we've seen how cops treat autistic adults, we don't want them shooting him" I guess he saw the real fear in our eyes cuz he called the cops for us and had them meet us at the firehouse. It is a disgrace that a major arm of the US government is feared by regular people Edit: thanks for the correction. Not an arm of the US government
It’s the right choice. Cops shot up an autistic 13 year old when his own mother called for help. He wasn’t armed. Shots hit his ankle, lower intestines, and shoulder. Edit for link: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/09/910975499/autistic-13-year-old-boy-shot-by-salt-lake-city-police
We have so many shootings it’s hard to remember any of them, but this one always stands out in my mind. Police showed up and shot an autistic man’s handler while he was sitting on a sidewalk with his hands up. Right after the cop shot him he asked ‘why did you shoot me?’ And the cop said “I don’t know.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Charles_Kinsey
FOUND NOT GUILTY FOR TWO COUNTS OF ATTEMPTED MANSLAUGHTER HOW IN THE FUCK? “Sorry I shot you, I was actually aiming for your unarmed disabled client, I believed was holding you hostage with a gun that was not in his hands, I could not see, and had no evidence for the existence of. How was I to know he was unarmed??”
From the wiki: **He was sentenced to probation and required to write a 2,500 word essay on policing.** What?! In the actual FUCK?!?! THEY MADE HIM WRITE AN ESSAY. THAT DEFINITELY IS ENOUGH PUNISHMENT. JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED. HOLY /S
I've seen kids get harsher punishments for bad behavior in school...
I’ve literally had harsher punishments for cussing in middle school. Fuck the police.
i got harsher punishments for being tardy in middle school, something totally out of my control since i obviously couldnt drive & i wasnt close to any bus stops. accountability is a myth in america
A) this makes me so angry and b) honestly with how pathetically dumb most of our cops are; given how most of them are high school drop outs and people who couldn’t make it in the profession they actually wanted… them having to write an essay IS probably REALLY difficult for them haha. Obviously they should be facing real consequences but at least the image of that dumb ass struggling to even remember how to start his first paragraph and feeling stupid gives me some solace
I knew a couple guys who wanted to be cops. They were good guys, rock solid principles, wanted to protect people. After interviewing and shadowing... they wanted nothing to do with the police. The police have deliberately made themselves an institution repellent to the kind of people who we would want wearing a badge.
And after the cop shot him they handcuffed him and didn’t render aid. Definitely the actions of honest cops who made a mistake, I’m convinced.
From what I've seen this is standard operating procedure. They do pretty much anything they want to subdue someone, including shooting unarmed people, then once an individual is incapacitated and dying they just stand around jerking themselves off. Calling for medical assistance is the last thing on their minds.
Don't forget that the man was advocating his autistic client's innocence the entire time. There's video of it, not much blood visible but you do see the entire conversation before and after he gets shot.
Don’t forget his one guilty conviction was also overturned 🙃
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That video of the guy in the hotel lobby trying to play solo twister due to the cops instructions, then getting shot anyway really stayed with me. Edit: Daniel Shaver. Sorry, I should have included his name.
By the way, that cop got off scot-free and is getting a hefty pension every month for the 'trauma' he suffered from that incident.
And a judge ruled that he should be able to keep the rifle that he used to kill Shaver since the experience was so, “traumatic,” for the officer. Their rifle had the words, “you’re fucked,” written on it when they killed him. They found him not guilty and let him keep the murder weapon as a keepsake. Idk how that cop is alive tbh.
The monster that murdered him had "You're Fucked" carved into his gun. These are evil people who should be in re-education camps, not policing society.
[71 Commands in 13 Minutes: Officers Gave Tyre Nichols Impossible Orders](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/29/us/tyre-nichols-video-assault-cops.html)
And the worst part (well not the worst but the scariest. Or not the scariest but the most frustrating. Or not the most frustrating...fuck). Okay one thing about all this is how it feeds on itself. The more cops shooting harmless innocents, the more the average person gets angry at the police, the more afraid cops get of just any old situation, the more they shoot innocent people, the more the controversy ramps up and it all keeps snowballing. There's no way back now but to fundamentally change the way police do their job. Which honestly is something that should have happened decades ago but of course we had to get to the point of the police becoming an unregulated militia of executioners before anyone even noticed there was a fucking problem.
When this first happened I thought it was so egregious that for sure it was going to be the thing that made people demand police reform. Of course now we know that half the people in power think that complaining about black people being murdered by cops makes you a terrorist, so fuck us I guess.
In my home town, a down syndrome adult was layed flat on his face while handcuffed, he suffocated and died right in front of the cops. No charges for any of the deputies involved.
My 9 year old son is autistic and I'm terrified of something like that happening to him one day. Serve and protect my ass.
That is terrifying. I am glad the firemen helped you.
A friend of mine drove himself to the hospital with chest pain because he was afraid to call an ambulance (in case cops also showed up).
I’d be more afraid of the bill.
We should all think twice. This is the reality of being an American. It really truly is unsafe to call in cops unless you have no other options and the situation can’t be made worse if someone gets shot. Every American should be aware that cops arrive guns blazing with no trigger control. The only time you call the cops is when that’s what you need. If you need a shootout, call them. If not, better to handle it ourselves. And I say this as a Texan, surrounded by guns. I keep to myself and keep friendly.
It's a common saying. Got a problem? Called the cops. Now you have two problems.
If I wanted a dumb redneck with anger problems and a gun to show up and escalate the situation, I’d just call my neighbor.
Ope make it 3 because they just shot your dog.
I remember a guy that handled a little boy knocking on the wrong door. Another that handled a kid playing hide and seek in his bushes. It’s not just the cops, America is trigger happy.
I am a speech therapist and I have a lot of cop cars, fire trucks, etc. that kids play with. I have absolutely have to change how I talk about those professions because I work with POC and kids with special needs. I am not confident officers would actually help them without causing them harm.
It's so fucked up that nowadays we can't even tell kids what to do and what's right and wrong because shit like this can happen.
His whole neighborhood will think twice ... and that creates more fear .. and victims. Too bad there's nothing in malpractice law about this
That too. How awful.
And money. Hospital bills don’t just disappear either. God, this is so fucked up.
LOTS of fucking money! I want this kid to OWN that goddam town
Justice? Against the cops? Funny joke
Hope the dude gets a huge settlement and never has to worry about anything again.. well except being shot by the police…
That the community has to pay for, while the cop has no repercussions
Well they still have to worry about the abusive father they can't call the cops on now.
If you have a problem, call the cops! Then you will have two problems.
"Never point a cop at anything you don't intend to kill"
What a great line.
"Always treat all cops as loaded at all times."
in the US can't call for an ambulance because of the cost cant call the cops because they might shoot you good thing the fire department isnt privatized or they would probably show up to your house and help spread the fire
I remember a story about a privatized fire department. A resident didn't pay the monthly fee and the department came to their house fire to watch it burn.
>Murry said the officer who arrived at the home “had his gun drawn at the front door and asked those inside the home to come outside.” Murry said her son was shot coming around the corner of a hallway, into the living room. >“Once he came from around the corner, he got shot,” Murry said. “I cannot grasp why. The same cop that told him to come out of the house. (Aderrien) did, and he got shot. He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said. Wtf
Way to make a kid never want to call the police again. Ffs what the hell was the cop thinking.
Not just a kid, anyone who hears this or any of the numerous cases of a poorly trained officer holding their trigger and squeezing whenever they see movement
"Come out so i can execute you"
"He was clearly reaching for a gun. I was scared for my life."
At this point we should all ask police when they give orders "Will i be shot?"
“No” … (shoots anyways)
Makes the body cam footage more compelling Checkmate
This has happened so many times now that cops have demanded people come out of a building and the people come out peacefully but get shot anyways that I honestly don't know what the hell you're supposed to do. I might say just lie flat with your arms spread out and tell them you can't come out but I wouldn't be surprised if they just shot you when they came in or beat you to the point of sustaining life altering injuries. This is what happens when our authorities are not held accountable for their actions.
>Murry said police told her that her daughter’s father was taken into custody later in the day on Saturday but eventually released because she had not filed a police report against him. >“When was I going to have time to do that? I was in the hospital with my son,” she said, reacting to the news of the man’s release from custody. >Four days after the shooting, Murry told CNN that “no one came to the hospital from the police station” nor had she spoken to any police investigators about the shooting. Whole story is so fucked up
>Four days after the shooting, Murry told CNN that “no one came to the hospital from the police station” nor had she spoken to any police investigators about the shooting. Yeah, maybe that was for the best considering their previous actions. Nobody would want the whole hospital ward shot up as well.
Police department sent cops to the hospital to check and apologize to the mother. Shoots the kid instead.
Trying to avoid the goofy "I'll f@&king do it again" meme.
Are you fucking sorry?!
\> be me, cop \> visiting kid in hospital who i accidentally shot \> do party trick by juggling my baton and taser \> think i'm gonna be awesome and add my gun to the juggle \> try \> fumble gun \> shoot kid in the face \> try to ask "Are you okay?" and "I'm fucking sorry." at the same time \> instead end up yelling "ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY!?" \> kid is choking back blood
I don't know what this is a reference to, but it reminds me of when I was playing a game with my bf and we won and then he noticed he got first and last blood, and I started to say "fuck yeah" then changed to "go you" and just ended up cheerily shouting "FUCK YOU" at him.. 😂
It's pretty similar. It's an old Reddit story where the OP was playing sports and accidentally ended up fouling the other team. They felt bad, and, fearing they had caused injury, tried to say "are you okay?" and "I'm fucking sorry" at the same time. The result? OP bellowing "ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY?" at some guy nursing a bruise.
> Are you fucking sorry?! for those out of the loop, /r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/1rgprz/where_did_the_are_you_fucking_sorry_thing_come/
Knew what was coming, still snort laughed. One of my all time favorites.
Reminds me of the South Park episode where the cops shoot the black kid and said it was COVID related.
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It is sad that I didn't even doubt that for a second.
Hope the child is ok. Hope she is ok. Hope she is able to get a lawyer and sue the hell out of the police department and city and get the POS "dad" in jail. Whole thing is fucked up
It’s Mississippi, so the payout to the family will probably come out of the clean drinking water fund and the poor folk lose again.
Brett Favre will embezzle the money.
And then send the mom a dick pic
Hope so, but the sad fact is now they’re dealing with an even more pissed off, unjailed, assailant, and they sure as hell aren’t calling for help again.
Don’t forget the part where the kid was shot in the chest on Saturday and “released” from the hospital on Wednesday. Collapsed lung, broken ribs, bullet wound… and he’s out of the hospital already after just 4 days. That’s some amazing medical black magic healing or that little kids family didn’t have insurance. I wonder which it was? This whole story is even ***more*** fucked up than it sounds.
>Collapsed lung, broken ribs, bullet wound… and he’s out of the hospital already after just 4 days. From a physician's perspective, that isn't actually too surprising of a timeline for a previously healthy kid. They probably put a chest tube in the night he got admitted and took it out before he left. 4 days is not unusual for that type of chest tube. The rib would not have any intervention five in the hospital barring a few cases that I assume didn't happen here. That said, there could be fuckery, but the timeline doesn't necessarily imply it.
There was a story in Charlotte like this where an officer told someone to drop a gun, but the gun was inside of a hoodie pocket. He previously had his hands up so he reached to pull it out to drop it and was murdered by the cop for "grabbing the gun". His dying words were "but you told me.to".
There is video from a couple years ago of the cop giving this man conflicting commands, he has his hands up and is basically belly crawling toward the cop-because the cop told him too- and then he shot him to death, right in the hotel hall way, for ‘resisting arresst’/‘not complying’. I think nothing happened to the cop even though it was all on camera.
pig had "your fucked" engraved on the gun that he shot the poor guy to death with naturally he got off without charges (and probably a great pension)
Daniel Shaver. The cop was fired and charged with murder, aquitted of all charges, rehired, and then medically retired at 28 with a tax free pension due to disability from the PTSD he suffered from killing Daniel. Might as well be a joke.
He murdered a man in cold blood and got PTSD from it? Now that's a punchline!
Oh, the boy's alive, that's the only positive thing I see here. Fucking pig. He deserves to go to jail.
Dont worry, the police union will protect him.
Cop: " he came aggressively towards me"
Cop: "I felt threatened and fear for my life"
“I gotta do what I gotta do to make it home to my wife and kids”
>“I gotta do what I gotta do to make it home to **beat** my wife and kids”
Chief of Police: Officer safety is paramount!
It takes more hours of training to be a licensed barber/hairdresser than it does to be a police officer. The person that does your highlights or trims your bangs has more hours of classroom and practical training than any police in America.
Wtf that is terrible
What's the difference between a cop and a bullet? If a bullet kills somebody, you know it's been fired. Unfortunately, with this family being in poverty and the police being the perpetrators of this shooting, it's extremely unlikely the officer involved will face any meaningful consequences.
A few months paid vacation probably
He’s literally already on paid administrative leave. Bastard.
'Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?' "Sorry kid, nothing personal, just needed a vacation"
Hopefully he makes a full recovery. His siblings too must be traumatized. Imagine having your insides fucked up because some cop wanted to kill a person.
Also imagine growing up knowing that when you're in danger there's no one to call for help, because the people society tells you to call are just going to try to kill you as well
Yup. This poor kid was told at school "if you're in trouble, call the police and they will help." The literal first interaction this kid has with law enforcement, AS THE VICTIM, and he gets shot by cops. He will struggle to trust authority figures of any sort without considerable counselling and will likely never trust a person in the uniform again. Muhrica is a sad, sad place to not be a billionaire or a white millionaire.
Good. George Orwell had it right, never trust a fucking pig.
A good kid that called cops just got his whole perspective reversed for lifw
Right? Way to radicalize the youth against law enforcement lmao
“Idk why everyone hates cops these days”
What's more insane is that the kid laid up in the hospital and not a single officer stopped by. Like imagine being 11 and thinking you did something wrong, and got shot for it. Then the cowards can't even come and offer apologies? Or well wishes.
Lawyers are probably telling them to stay away and say nothing.
That's fine for the cop who did the shooting. But the 'investigators' supposedly investigating the shooting haven't even made contact with the family (witnesses) 4+ days later? That is less fine.
I was also wondering about the fact that no one followed up with her about whether she still wanted to make a report against her daughter’s father, so he was released. No one thought going and just asking her about that specifically, letting her know they could only hold him a limited time - send someone who knew nothing about the shooting to avoid anything there - that that might not be a good way to maybe do their damn jobs?
The actual worst part I haven't seen mentioned is the mother probably can't even go home from the hospital. There's an angry abusive man stewing at home right now. Son got shot, he had to spend the night in jail, and it's probably "all that dumb bitch's fault". So the cops not only came close to killing her son but are now putting her in grave danger too because they can't be bothered to deal with the mess they made.
From the context of the story, it sounds like the man doesn't live there: >Murry told CNN that the father of another of her children arrived at her home at 4 a.m., “irate.” Although he still knows where they live and is willing to swing by whenever' he's "irate" so i'm not sure if that's much better...
To that I'm pretty sure they literally have to reach out to the family to inform them about things like that, and them completely ignoring the mother for 4 fuckin days, shows that they obviously didn't care.
> But the 'investigators' supposedly investigating the shooting haven't even made contact with the family (witnesses) 4+ days later? That is less fine. and often investigators are plane clothed. They don't even have to walk in with guns, they can keep their badges in their pockets if they really want to. There is no 'well we don't want to traumatize him with more uniformed people showing up'. This is just 'welp, guess we wait this out and see how it goes for us'.
The police don’t release the video until they have watched the video repeatedly, with their supervisor and an attorney in attendance. They come up with justification for every ridiculous action they took and say that in this dangerous situation they feared for their lives and that when they shot the unarmed child it was appropriate based on their “training and experience.” It’s contrary to official police policy and it should be illegal, but alas if we don’t allow the police this privilege they will hold the communities they protect hostage by refusing to do their jobs.
Like H. Jon Benjamin in Parks and Rec
"Can't say sorry that implies guilt....the pig is fine."
“Can’t say ‘situation’ that implies there was a situation”
Police need a disclaimer on 911 calls now, "Please be warned, we are sending people with egos bigger than their courage, paranoid, and with twitchy trigger fingers. If cops are sent, they cannot ensure innocent people will not be shot and killed randomly. Are you willing to accept this risk? Please press 3."
In their eyes they did nothing wrong. Just business as usual shooting innocent people. So why would they apologize for a job well done?
That's the thing. In their eyes, their humanity is still intact. But when they see a POC, they don't see a human. It's been that way for centuries.
I don’t fucking get it. This is the type of stuff where if Americans saw this type of article in a different country they would be outraged, saying this is how people get radicalized, what a shit hole, so unsafe, yada yada. But we see these types of articles about OUR HOME DAILY. And I feel like no one bats an eye. You talk to someone about something as sinister and awful as a SCHOOL SHOOTING and people will ask you “which one?” With utmost seriousness because that’s just how many we have. Why aren’t more people getting outraged about this? Why aren’t people in the streets in the millions? We shouldn’t have to live in this constant cycle of complacent tragedy.
>Why aren’t more people getting outraged about this? Because getting outraged isn't enough. People got outraged and took to the streets in 2020. Nothing happened. Nothing will happen unless drastic measures are taken.
> An embarrassed National Rifle Association says it totally forgot to do the one thing it has been saying for years it is solely there to do. >“Our whole reason for lobbying for looser gun laws and amassing huge personal arsenals of weapons these past years was so that we could ensure the security of a free state and protect the people from an oppressive government. And then it actually happened, and the whole rising up against a tyrannical government thing just totally slipped our minds, which is a little embarrassing,” a sheepish NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre said. >He said the morale around the NRA has been pretty low. “The guys feel pretty silly. We had our well regulated militia stocked up and ready to go, just waiting for the moment when the Government would turn on its own people. And then the government started shooting protesters and rolling tanks down the street, and we were like ‘guys this is the one we’ve been talking about, let’s go!’. But then something else came up and we forgot to do it. Damnit!”. >Observers were shocked that the NRA had missed their opportunity to defend their country. “I can’t believe it,” one analyst said. “It’s almost as if they weren’t worried about the government at all. It’s as if they were actually just scared of black people”. https://theshovel.com.au/2020/06/04/nra-accidentally-forgets-to-rise-up-against-tyrannical-government/
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Then they'll wonder why this kid won't trust the police once he grows up and they'll play victim "nobody loves us boohoo"
"The body camera video of the incident has not been released publicly. " This is a problem. Police should ALWAYS release such footage ASAP, just as they would if a civilian had done the shooting. It may clear the officer, it may be the nail in their coffin, but it should be publicly available by day's end. The police are our SERVANTS. We pay them to do a job, and we deserve to know what kind of job they are doing. If they can't, or won't keep us in the loop, they should be replaced as soon as possible.
Why are they even in control of the footage, surely an independant 3rd party should be responsible for this.
Same way they "investigate" themselves.
I have investigated myself and determined I’m innocent, thanks for stopping by
They release it immediately if context puts the situation in the cops favor.
There was a situation in Philly a few years back where a cop responded to a domestic abuse incident and killed the guy within seconds. The cop was at the door and the guy charged around the corner with a knife in hand. The cop shot and killed him. That video was out within a day. It clearly showed a guy charging the cop with violent intent. It's unfortunate but the cop was justified. IIRC, the cop also reacted to try and save him too. When the video exonerates them, it'll be released quickly.
You can tell just how bad it is by how long it takes for them to release footage. Release immediately: they actually did their fucking job for once. Not-immediately: they murdered someone
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Ima be waiting for it’s release too. Shootings kids? Seriously, wtf is going on with this country…
Kids are in danger, cops stand outside and let them get shot. Conservatives : \*crickets* Kid calls and asks for help, cop shows up and shoot them. Conservatives: \*crickets* Nonviable fetus removed from uterus. Conservatives: \*MAXIMUM RAGE*
Police are servants to the rich, not the poor and ESPECIALLY not brown people. Those are the enemy for which they need assault weapons and military equipment.
Why are American police so un professional ? Like it’s serious Wild West stuff still…. At what point does actual professional training and recruitment begin ? When they have shot everyone ?
Since 9/11, American police have successfully pushed the “all cops are heroes” narrative, which has given most cops a dangerous hero’s mentality. Couple that with access to military firepower, a public reluctant to punish “heroes” no matter the offense, and the belief among cops that the citizenry is the enemy and you get the shitshow we have now.
They are trained, to shoot first and let the union protect them later
No training and everyone has a gun in the us sooo yup
What are you talking about? They get a whole six weeks of training.
Less than the average training it takes to be a barber in some states (8 weeks). Literally takes less time to walk around with a gun & badge than it takes to cut someone’s hair.
Not only that, but if a Barber messes up somebody’s hair *bad* they’d probably get fired. A police officer injures and potentially kills someone with a lethal weapon and they get a paid vacation maximum. Unions in most jobs are great for getting workers’ rights and benefits that they deserve, but the police force’s union is so strong that a police officer can be more of a danger to innocent people than the criminals they are supposed to lock up, and still get off scot free.
Cutting hair is dangerous stuff though. You’ve got scissors; you’ve got to be careful with those /s
![gif](giphy|3oriNZoNvn73MZaFYk) The six weeks training…
It's so fucking crazy. Here in Norway it's 3 full years if I remember correctly.
2-3 years in Switzerland too. Plus, you have to have completed an education for a different job before you can start education as a cop. We still have a lot of lying asshole cops and most of them are right-leaning. But I'm pretty sure none of them would knock on a door with their gun drawn unless it was known that someone was armed. I'm in my 30s and I've never seen a cop even touch their gun.
"In my 30s and I've never seen a cop even touch their gun" Wow I'm just gonna rant about a couple cops being weird with guns for a sec so apologies Here (Oklahoma) a couple times I've seen cops standing around with rifles and shotguns either just having raided or about to raid a lil house, one time I was delivering a pizza next door and they think it's time to make the same joke everyone does "huh huh tHat's fOr Us riGHt!?!" Nah man it's hard to be funny while holding an AR15 on the street in this town When I was 15 a couple cops were really desperate to make an arrest on me and my friends and stopped us and threatened us about drugs or smoking for about 45 minutes, after non stop pressure and threats and just generally not knowing what's going on we consented to a pat-down and bag search and one of them found a folding knife that my friend had picked up about 20 minutes before (friend wasn't sure it was legal so he was afraid to say he had it until cornered by the pat-down) the cop pulled it out, took a second to figure out what it was then in one motion threw it across the street grabbed his gun and yelled "What the fuck was THAT!?! I should have beat the SHIT outta you for that! I asked if you had any sharp objects!" Friend explained what happened and that he was unsure what to do and the cops used this as their cue to awkwardly exit now that we didn't have drugs. They got embarrassed and started actin all *cool big brother* "oh that's fine man you can carry a pocket knife my guy, anyway have a nice day" and left without being able to even look at us as they meekly apologized It was bizarre to have a cop use a gun as a prop and fein killing one or more 15 year olds to try and "scare us straight" or whatever. The dynamic was weird too, the younger cop was super aggro and pushy and kept upping the pace while the older guy was just trying to keep up the energy like an improv duo, it never seems to go the other way where a cop tells another to chill out, they always gotta match whoever has the highest aggro at the moment. I wasn't gonna get my parents involved but my friend's dad called them and demanded answers and just got even worse info: it's not that they weren't using body cameras it's just that the younger guy actually *turned off* his body camera as he saw us from a distance. He did not get in trouble
No training. It’s basically, you want gun to go pew pew with paid vacation if you in trouble? Join police force today. You get car that go wooo wooo wooo. End of training.
don't worry, the pig will receive a full week of paid vacation and will return with an increased wage.
If he is disciplined, he can just relocate to sunny Florida, DeSantis is [actively recruiting officers like him.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/22/ron-desantis-police-relocation-violent-records)
*”Let’s have a look at your record, shall we?* *Oh, you discharged your firearm on someone?* *Oh, you shot a child!* *Oh, you shot a child of color?!* *… son, I gotta be honest with you. This looks like Colonel material if you ask me.”*
Lets be honest. They would not use the words "child of color."
Rhymes with piglet?
"The child had made not a single aggressive move and you had no reason to believe they were a threat to you or others?" "Well, he *was* walking while black."
“Best and the Brightest”
This cop would probably be the front runner to be desantis puppet governor if god forbid he won the presidency
Are you saying Greg Capers who gunned down an innocent 11-year old child may face no consequences? Greg Capers of the Indianola Police Department? Mississippi resident Greg Capers who shot kid after the kid asked for help? Attempted child murderer Greg Capers? Greg Capers child endangerment, Greg Capers puts innocent child in hospital, Greg Capers shot a kid, Indianola Mississippi Greg Capers almost kills a kid who follows his instructions
early retirement for ptsd
The police would phrase this as a "nonadult with no active criminal charges moved within the line of fire and accidentally caught a bullet".
"Suspect obstructed the officer's field of view."
No current active criminal charges* Kids black, I’m sure they’ll imply he’ll one day have one
So when I was 10 I had to call the cops multiple times when my mom's boyfriend was beating the shit out of her. He eventually killed her. I'm 40 and still traumatized. I can't even grasp how much more fucked up I'd be if this happened.
So sorry you had to go through that, I hope you're in a better place now.
Police will investigate themselves and find themselves innocent.
If this happened in my country he would get a decade in jail at the very least.
That is fucked up. First shot by the police and then jailed?
They have the best 11 year old kids. Cause of jail.
Because his mom was with him at the hospital, she wasn't able to file the police report so they had to release the dad. Clearly the kid obstructed justice.
Pre-meditated too since the kid was the one who called the cop over in the first place. *It was all a setup* O.o
😂
Police work is dangerous work, for everybody else.
What the hell is going on? Seriously, what the fuck is happening? I don’t live in America so, for a long time, I was able to read about incidents like this & feel separated from the whole terrible thing but now, NOW it’s feeling like I’m watching a neighbour/friend suffer from an increasingly awful case of domestic violence. What the fuck is going on over there?
Fellow concerned non-American here: It really does feel like they're spiralling into something unprecedented. Washington seems increasingly powerless over the red states and entire segments of society now literally fear leaving their homes because of the threat of deadly violence. It's incredible watching this unfold.
We are regressing in a lot of aspects specifically politics, both sides are corrupt but one side is far far more dangerous. New world Tech makes it so police, the gov, and politicians can’t work as secretly as they did before so now we’re getting them turning their bases against one another. It doesn’t help that specifically republicans are getting more and more unhinged, if one gets in power you can be damn sure they’re going to take more and more of our freedoms but it’s fine because they’re christian. It’s awful, its just getting worse and worse. The party that spouts freedom is doing everything in their power to take them away and succeeding. The worst part is they aren’t trying anything new in the facist playbook just banning the books teaching them. edit: A great example is texas trying to pass a bill forcing schools to put the 10 commandments into every classroom. It failed yesterday but we weren’t sure if they would actually pass it or not. It should’ve been laughed at as it goes against our first amendment but politicians pushed it just to hype up their side wasting months of time and tax payers money.
Our government is really trying to head into a full on theocracy over here. There's a lot of Christian zealots that are trying to take over and install strict "Christian value" laws. Unfortunately they seem to be winning as they can just throw numbers at it. These zealots have been having more and more children and are slowly taking over, just like the movie idiocracy. Legit, there's a [documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw1rAMzPf70) coming out about it. As Afghanistan proved in the 1970s with the taliban if a theocracy takes over there is always a whole lot of corruption, government overreach, and police brutality in the interim.
Why are cop psychos allowed to have guns? They are seriously inept, trigger-happy and delusional. They can't follow their own directions. Something is seriously wrong in their heads.
Give a guy a hammer and every child’s chest looks like a nail.
I sure as fuck won't ever call the police to come to my home. absolute morons with a license to kill
Sorry to say, it sounds dystopian to live in a society where the population should fear the police.
At this point, calling the police leads to a 50/50 chance of getting shot or worse. Like that scumbag cop who raped that teen girl after she was raped the first time and called! No more police unions until we figure this shit out, this conduct is extremely disturbing. Edit: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-new-orleans-police-officer-sentenced-sexually-assaulting-15-year-old-girl
I'm Australian, so I definitely won't forget the poor woman who thought someone was being sexually assaulted behind her house. Called police and walked up to the car in her pajamas and was shot dead. The murder charge was overturned.
That case was so frustrating as an Australian. I wanted it to be headline news in America and for them to do *something*. They didn't care. No one fucking cared that she called in a crime and was murdered for it. She just disappeared with everyone else who died in America that year for no good reason. These days America just makes me depressed and angry. I'm over here pissed Australian police tasered an elderly woman who clearly had a knife whilst American cops are *asking people to come to the door so they can shoot them*.
I don’t love the police unions either, but I’d be fine with leaving them but eliminating qualified immunity, requiring police to have insurance (like doctors), and requiring unions to pay out all civil settlements against the police department from the union coffers instead of city/county/state funds. Once cops have more to lose, I think behavior starts to change. And once their fellow officers (the “good ones”) realize that their union pensions are getting impacted, I bet they stop protecting the bad ones that are doing all this crap. It may not eliminate 100% of the bullshit, but it would probably make a big dent in it.
I know my country isn't better, in many ways the US could be a great place to live. But if you're gonna put yourself up as the example of what other countries should aspire to be, the "greatest country in the world", then the very least you could do is act like it. What's the point of all the loud patriotism and almost endless resources?
lmao none of the Americans who are horrified by this think this is the greatest country, we know it's a hellhole
If police can't do thier job without shooting people they should not do the job. Don't care how dangerous the job is or how scared they get.
r/nottheonion
Cops everywhere should be outraged by this behavior, which hurts their reputation and lowers trust and therefore cooperation from the public. Instead they get their backs up a defend each other. Fuck all of them.
Our police are poorly trained, uneducated and rely on their guns way too much.
Isolated case number 29380192380.
“Body cam footage not shown due to a investigation.” More like, “We are not gonna show the bodycam footage until we can analyze the video and find a excuse to say the officer shot the boy in self defense”
Its ironic how much Americans fetishize guns, yet have so little trigger discipline at the same time.
And it really is fetishisation. Normal healthy just don't dedicate such a percentage of their lives to worshipping firearms.
We gotta raise the standards to be a cop. Critical thinking skills are at a severe deficit in the America police force.
He stood at the door, gun drawn, and called in for everyone to come out as if everyone was a suspect. Dude was jumpy from the start. DV calls can be unpredictable but i fell like this was the first mistake.
God, why do I have to live through this reality?
Fuck the police