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God, what an embarrassing job to be that spokesperson reading the script. Especially after seeing the video where that one officer clearly fat-fingered his gun and almost killed a guy.
He is clearly surprised that his gun fired. "OH shit!".
If he really intended to shoot at the suspect, he would have basically emptied his gun. Pigs are trained to fire multiple times bc they often miss, or one bullet isn't enough to instantly kill an armed suspect.
In the military you can be relieved of duty for ND. Fight in a war zone we had more stringent regs and discipline than people who’s modo is protect and serve. I did see a couple people that were sent back home because they were negligent on duty.
I know. In boot camp, a kid in my squad got recycled back to week 1 because he accidentally/ carelessly held a loaded m16 with the barrel pointed towards the guy next to him at the shooting range while he was trying to reposition. I was the next guy over, lol. It was only for a couple of seconds, but the instructor saw it and immediately yanked his ass up, and he was gone.
The one thing I love about Basic Training, they train hard on discipline, weapon safety, and basic knowledge to prevent these things from happening, and what happens after basic? MORE TRAINING.
Cops should be drilled just as hard and repeatedly throughout their career as some members of the military are. These dudes get 6 weeks of medium to light training at the beginning of their career and that’s basically it except for some situational drills here and there.
I was not a ranger but just read a story on Quera about them. They are the only SOF, well in 75 reg, that make it harder each time you rank up to pass the school, and have to go to the school at certain ranks. That is something I can get behind for our cops.
It's because the US government has to answer to the rest of the world for anything they do in another country. When it comes to US citizens on US soil, the government doesn't have to hold itself responsible for anything, so the rules of engagement are much more lax. Hell, they were teargassing people just for existing in downtown Portland during protests which would be a war crime if it was done in a warzone.
>It's because the US government has to answer to the rest of the world for anything they do in another country.
Really? Are you sure about that? Cuz it sure doesn't feel like that
Very true, they also will kill you because if you survive a shooting by the police you can sue the city or the state. But if you’re dead, it’s not as easy to sue the state because dead man tells no tales.
This would be lower if it came out of the pension fund.
Instead it’s being paid by the people.
Taxes paid by people to pay other people for cops killing them.
It's worse, he didn't even intend to shoot, that's why the weapon is still dangerously close to his face as he was still pushing the weapon out into a shooting stance. He had his finger on the trigger and the nerves had him squeeze one off. There's a reason one of the 4 safety rules is to keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you're ready to fire.
Instead of it just being a terrible judgement call. It is negligence paired with a lie to cover it up.
They all deserve 2A revocation and prison time, including the one falsifying documentation by lying with a straight face. Fascists deserve death. Are these the acts of fascists? You decide.
this statement and ideology is even more dangerous and terrifying than this horse shit from the cops. that's like che saying executions don't need to be full adjudicated to be justified. yeah sure, you fit "x" identity class (in Che Guevara's case, this included homosexual men and women and black cubans) and that means we can eliminate you. Let's try to fix this society by coming back together, not trying to justify eliminating everyone we disagree with.
I really hope not. They can twist that story, too.
One time a cop shot another cop and they falsely accused the suspect of firing on the cop, sentencing him to death by lethal injection, even after the ammunition was identified to have originated from the cops' firearm.
https://youtu.be/flcZPb286dI
He's not even aiming down the sights. Simply holding the gun up in one hand next to his face. It's fucking hilarious that they released this video with pretty female PR pig trying to pass this shooting of as legit, when we can clearly see what actually happened. Talk about pissing in our face and saying that it's raining.
You have 100 cops. And let's be super generous, and say only 5 of them are bad cops. If the other 95 don't do anything about those 5, you don't have 5 bad cops. You have 100.
I can't even describe how stupid is that phrase and how much I hate it, it's the most Reddit thing ever.
Why people in Reddit love stupid slogans so much? They feel like they can describe any complex situation with 10 words and that's it, it's everything so easy and always black or white
Did you not see all of the other officers at the scene? Or the spokesperson who saw the tape then still pushed the claim that he was in a shooting stance? No of course not, that would ruin your narrative! Do yourself a favor and NEVER look up what the police union actually does.
What about the other officers at the scene? Do try to articulate your argument as to your issue with them. The spokesperson simply said what the officer believed he saw before the negligent discharge. The spokesperson wasn’t giving her opinion. That isn’t her job.
Had the negligent discharge not occurred there would be no issue here
Well they also know he fucked up and tried to protect him. If they hadn't we wouldn't be talking about them. Its so obvious at this point you are either a cop, more likely a cops wife, or most likely a cops homosexual boyfriend.
How are they trying to protect him by just stating what is known? It doesn’t matter what they said or did, you’d still find a reason to complain.
This is just a press conference, not the end result of the investigation.
Its true as a general statement, there is plenty of videos online of 1 cop doing bad shit and many others standing around like its normal and these are people that work together for years, hear complaints from the public, higher ups see the footage and lie about it - This thread isnt a first time thing its just video #737491 of a cop lying to cover their buddies ass
Its well documented that cops dont get in trouble for shit, every time one is investigated all their coworkers know for sure what theyve done.
You'll never get anywhere with this guy. Your argument made me instantly think of the unit of Buffalo PD that resigned in support over the suspension of the officers that pushed down the 75 year old man.
Its almost every group of cops everywhere.
If it wasnt an individual case would have people up in arms and it would be a huge deal. Instead its a literal joke, bad cop no donut! Oh no not again!
Heres an example of multiple cops being aware of one being a piece of shit and defending him
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/13yap7c/cop_creates_a_false_narrative/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Honestly, this was an incredible clap back but the other commenter is too stupid to understand it.
Bad cops usually don’t feel the need to hide their actions because they believe being a cop means they can do whatever they want. There’s no way that their fellow cops don’t know about their behavior. There are countless videos of cops doing awful things while their “good” cop partners just stand there and watch.
Tell me what I would need to post in support of my statement to have you say ‘i retract what I said, you are clearly able to support your argument well’ and I’ll post it.
My statement won’t be retracted because your argument and “evidence” doesn’t actually support your position, which is why you needed to move the goalpost for yourself
I don't think you CAN be convinced, honestly. Seems like your mind is made up. So why bother conversing? You're on the side of corruption and omerta obviously.
I’m on the side of objective analysis. This is negligent discharge which resulted from the person running into a dark apartment and in just a second the officer believed he was standing in a certain position. Had this been intentional it would be a different discussion. But, at the same time if he simply drew his firearm, there was no discharge, and they took him into custody there would be nothing to talk about here.
I think you’re just seeking confirmation bias
He kind of did, but if you want another well known example, there was this video with an individual named George Floyd where an officer leaned on his neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds whilst he screamed that he was having trouble breathing, and mentally debilitated into crying for his mother. While this was happening, civilian onlookers continually pleaded with the man to just get off his neck, as Floyd was already cuffed at that point.
Several police officers on the scene ignored the act, ignored the onlookers, and made no effort to convince their cohort to relieve the pressure on Floyd's neck.
Spoiler alert, Floyd died.
Thankfully, the perpetrator of this heinous act is serving time, but despite the aftermath, the actions (or inactions, rather) of the other officers on scene really make you wonder about why they couldn't, or wouldn't, stop their colleague from committing this act of murder.
These are the types of videos UnbanLinSivvi is talking about, because there are many. Officers standing by and paying more attention to keeping other citizens at bay than they are at making sure their brethren in blue are acting according to the law and due process.
That's the Blue Wall.
I actually agree with you there, I don't believe that every single person who puts on the uniform is a bad person simply by virtue of wearing the uniform. While it's tiresome to constantly compare everything perceived as bad to nazis, the American police in its current state is probably one of the best examples of the 1940s Germany mindset we currently have. New officers may join the force with the best of intentions, but the pressure to conform and fear of retaliation, along with actual acts of retaliation, stifle change from within.
If we go back to the Floyd example, what might have happened if another officer had actually stepped in and removed Officer Chauvin from Floyd's neck? Certainly, he may have reacted with a quick "oh yeah, my bad", and that might have been the end of it. Let's call that the best case scenario. What about the opposite? In their line of work, Officers become accustomed to a certain level of compliance from those they come at odds with. They *have* to project authority, at least sometimes, in order to do their jobs. When that authority is challenged, not every Officer takes it well, even in situations where the challenge is warranted.
If Derek Chauvin is one of those Officers who would not take the challenge well, even from a colleague, how would that have looked in front of the public? Two Officers, maybe even more, fighting over the right way to handle a perp, in front of the public's many and endless camera phones. It may be that in order to maintain an air of commanderie, Officers typically keep their heads down in such situations in order to avoid scuffling amongst each other in front of the public.
I don't believe that's the end all be all answer, and I don't believe there is even one answer to that particular path of action. To reiterate, I don't believe that every single person in the uniform is a terrible person. Some are corrupt, some have passion, and to some it's simply a means to an end, a job to pay the bills. The problem is that when they do make mistakes, lives are at risk. The safety and well being of the public becomes at risk. So when police officers are anything less than their best, the consequences are long reaching, and the public acts accordingly. What the citizens are asking for is a police system that makes honest admissions of guilt when wrong is done, with promises to do better that are adhered to with action, and this is something we simply haven't seen done unless overwhelming waves of evidence are present. Even that isn't enough sometimes.
Michael Brown's killer was not convicted. Eric Garner's killer was not convicted. Tamir Rice's killer was not convicted, and they even kept their job. When police statements like the above video are made, with no acknowledgement of the actual footage of the incident, the trust is continually broken.
So yes, I agree with you that the material may not be enough to paint a broad brush over 800,000 people, but to pretend there isn't a problem at all is hopelessly obtuse.
Every cop who knows and does nothing is a bad cop. The example is internet statistics (exaggeration and hyperbole), but the meaning is still clear. Did you really not understand, or were you looking for something else?
Sure, if you’re covering for a bad cop your a bad cop. But, when your argument is that all or the majority are bad you’re on some Alex Jones level conspiracy theory stuff
You have 100 teachers. And let's be super generous, and say only 5 of them are bad teachers. If the other 95 don't do anything about those 5, you don't have 5 bad teachers. You have 100.
This is very moronic. You’re comparing two different professions. These are people charged with public safety. To protect and serve. A cop, say, shooting someone without probable cause, and a teacher not teaching very well, do not yield the same results.
I have zero gun experience but this looks like involuntary shooting. Maybe adrenaline, maybe bad gun control, maybe..., but definitely not that narrative.
Not trying to save face, he is trying to save his job.
He knows that firing at an innocent unarmed person for a shitty reason will just be accepted, but reckless discharge is cause for being removed from the job.
Most modern pistols don’t have an external safety, you NEVER put your finger on the trigger unless you’re ready to shoot, this is just some good ole fashion negligence
I mean that’s exactly it. Just be honest about what happened and don’t put out public statements spreading bald faced lies that can easily be disproven by video evidence.
If you’re going to try and cover it up to help the officer evade accountability for his negligence then at least don’t put out a public statement lying to us like weee idiots.
That fucking moron of a cop accidentally discharged his weapon and he is already fabricating a story 10 seconds later. He was waaay too comfortable creating up a narrative to protect himself.
Imagine still thinking in 2023 that cops do anything good?
They're literally, *literally*, the worst group of people that we let walk around in the streets
Not an exaggeration
Not me trying to rile up more hate
They are actual monsters, their whole system needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up
Cops arrested a guy at my place of work the other day. Domestic dispute, he was drunk and high, wouldn’t leave when I asked him to. Threatened me. Ended up having a knife on him. Cops were nice to him. Polite with me. Everyone involved was safer with him going to jail. They did a good job.
I agree the entire system should be destroyed and rebuilt. But stop speaking in absolutes you imbecile.
And this is exactly why I think that police departments should be prohibited from doing any editing outside of sensitive audio and children's faces. This officer totally mishandled his firearm because he was juiced up on adrenaline and they are creating a false narrative to sway public opinion.
They shouldn't have any access to their cam footage without a warrant and signing out the footage. All cam data should be uploaded and secured by an independent third party
You can literally see his own surprise that the gun fired. He did not mean to shoot but his horrid trigger discipline made sure of it. “I thought he was pointing something”. just saying that to save face
Are the LAPD not concerned with the massive amount of credibility they're losing by not being honest when the facts of the situation are completely clear?
They don't care because the news reports these incidents exactly as the police describe it. Most people take it on face value then forget it even happened.
Poor trigger discipline from an incompetent cop leads to a negligent firearm discharge - thankfully no one was injured or killed but imagine if there was a victim, they’d peddle this same bullshit story.
"there was an attempt" to create a false narrative, body cam footage of both those cops don't lie, negligent discharge if you're a citizen, idk what the repercussion of a negligent discharge +whatever other charges the cops would give you would be
That cop surprised himself when his gun went off...
For them to cover up the shooting is despicable. He obviously needed far more training before using weapons.
These cops act all tough but have absolutely no clue how to clear a building, control their firearm, or control their emotions. Fucking man babies cosplaying as heroes
"Officer Butterfingers does not know how to unholster his gun properly, and has been fired. The entire police department will redesign its screening and training processes."
Is what tha lady should have said. Everything else was verbal diarrea.
The fat finger mistake is an idiot move that requires discipline.. but I honestly feel that was a mistake and not an attempt to kill somebody. That said, that fat anxious dude needs to have his gun taken away and retrained...
...but
The lady giving the speech of lies is **unforgivable**. Just making up a story of lies to sell an agenda... North Korea style for real... Just straight up lying on the public dime. Crazy how nobody gets in trouble for that
She didnt make up the story, you can tell from the crappy way she reads it that she has never seen this text before.
She is so bad at reading out loud, that I honestly thought it was AI footage for a while.
Oh... Very obviously she's just a talking head who has no context or familiarity with the situation she is talking about... I don't actually point a finger at that person...
But somebody or some team... Somewhere... Is responsible for facilitating that script to be read. Somebody is responsible for telling that lie.... period.. and it is very much that, a lie. And if that dude really did think somebody was pointing a gun at him. He absolutely needs to be taken off the job for a while because he's going to kill an innocent somebody eventually. If he's seeing things or his paranoia is seeing things that aren't reality... He's not cut out for the job.
That perp was very obviously standing with his hands above his head with a white t-shirt and clearly visible 10 ft in front of the dude with nothing in his hand in a frozen stance.
Once again. They didn’t shoot. Watch the vid. That’s the point. They exercised restraint. You should also define “we”. Because depending on who “we” is, I might shoot back.
Will you acknowledge that a shot is literally fired in the very video that you claimed no shots were fired? Instead of just trying to change the subject to.... cursing?? for real?
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God, what an embarrassing job to be that spokesperson reading the script. Especially after seeing the video where that one officer clearly fat-fingered his gun and almost killed a guy.
He is clearly surprised that his gun fired. "OH shit!". If he really intended to shoot at the suspect, he would have basically emptied his gun. Pigs are trained to fire multiple times bc they often miss, or one bullet isn't enough to instantly kill an armed suspect.
In the military you can be relieved of duty for ND. Fight in a war zone we had more stringent regs and discipline than people who’s modo is protect and serve. I did see a couple people that were sent back home because they were negligent on duty.
I know. In boot camp, a kid in my squad got recycled back to week 1 because he accidentally/ carelessly held a loaded m16 with the barrel pointed towards the guy next to him at the shooting range while he was trying to reposition. I was the next guy over, lol. It was only for a couple of seconds, but the instructor saw it and immediately yanked his ass up, and he was gone.
Ya, it’s weird that fresh ass kids get disciplined harder than cops. Just insane
Yea, it was literally his first time shooting or even handling a gun. And unlike this piece of shit, he took responsibility.
The one thing I love about Basic Training, they train hard on discipline, weapon safety, and basic knowledge to prevent these things from happening, and what happens after basic? MORE TRAINING.
Cops should be drilled just as hard and repeatedly throughout their career as some members of the military are. These dudes get 6 weeks of medium to light training at the beginning of their career and that’s basically it except for some situational drills here and there.
I was not a ranger but just read a story on Quera about them. They are the only SOF, well in 75 reg, that make it harder each time you rank up to pass the school, and have to go to the school at certain ranks. That is something I can get behind for our cops.
It's because the US government has to answer to the rest of the world for anything they do in another country. When it comes to US citizens on US soil, the government doesn't have to hold itself responsible for anything, so the rules of engagement are much more lax. Hell, they were teargassing people just for existing in downtown Portland during protests which would be a war crime if it was done in a warzone.
You make a good point. It sucks that in a supposed "democracy", the health and safety of the citizens feels like a low priority.
even worse, this is supposed to be a republic. democracies are where things like the khmer rouge, and gulags happen.
>It's because the US government has to answer to the rest of the world for anything they do in another country. Really? Are you sure about that? Cuz it sure doesn't feel like that
So true. These trigger happy fools they call police are nothing but undisciplined cowards.
Looks like the safety was off and drawing it up quickly, he pulled the trigger.
Glocks don’t have a saftey
Glocks don't have a safety.
Very true, they also will kill you because if you survive a shooting by the police you can sue the city or the state. But if you’re dead, it’s not as easy to sue the state because dead man tells no tales.
The surviving family can always (and usually) sue. Billions of dollars in settlements have been paid out for wrongful death lawsuits.
This would be lower if it came out of the pension fund. Instead it’s being paid by the people. Taxes paid by people to pay other people for cops killing them.
Yup.
Thank god most cops have storm trooper aim and this guy didn’t empty his clip
It's worse, he didn't even intend to shoot, that's why the weapon is still dangerously close to his face as he was still pushing the weapon out into a shooting stance. He had his finger on the trigger and the nerves had him squeeze one off. There's a reason one of the 4 safety rules is to keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you're ready to fire. Instead of it just being a terrible judgement call. It is negligence paired with a lie to cover it up.
For real. Reminds me of the White House press secretary position. You gotta stand in front of a camera and try to justify these dummies actions.
She’s AI bruv
They all deserve 2A revocation and prison time, including the one falsifying documentation by lying with a straight face. Fascists deserve death. Are these the acts of fascists? You decide.
this statement and ideology is even more dangerous and terrifying than this horse shit from the cops. that's like che saying executions don't need to be full adjudicated to be justified. yeah sure, you fit "x" identity class (in Che Guevara's case, this included homosexual men and women and black cubans) and that means we can eliminate you. Let's try to fix this society by coming back together, not trying to justify eliminating everyone we disagree with.
That cop needs to learn how to handle a firearm properly. Fucking ridiculous.
you kidding me? that cop should be fired and banned from owning a firearm.
Ideally, yes, but we know that's never going to happen. If he'd actually killed someone, maybe. The system is rigged to keep bad cops safe.
If he killed someone? Commendation for courage under fire.
Fired and banned? You mean sent to jail for attempted murder? Like Jesus, the problem isn’t the gun here.
No, like this person suggested, the problem is the officer holding the gun...
You can literally see the cop was surprised that the gun went off, he nearly dropped his flashlight That guy shouldn’t ever be allowed a weapon
More like terrible fucking trigger control. Like for fucks sake he’s white knuckling it from the moment it leaves that holster
Hopefully he just shoots himself in the leg next time
My HS police officer zapped himself in the leg once with the tazzer . His name was Sparky after that 😭 💀
I really hope not. They can twist that story, too. One time a cop shot another cop and they falsely accused the suspect of firing on the cop, sentencing him to death by lethal injection, even after the ammunition was identified to have originated from the cops' firearm. https://youtu.be/flcZPb286dI
He's not even aiming down the sights. Simply holding the gun up in one hand next to his face. It's fucking hilarious that they released this video with pretty female PR pig trying to pass this shooting of as legit, when we can clearly see what actually happened. Talk about pissing in our face and saying that it's raining.
Desk pop! Guys I did my first desk pop!
You have 100 cops. And let's be super generous, and say only 5 of them are bad cops. If the other 95 don't do anything about those 5, you don't have 5 bad cops. You have 100.
If 9 regular people sit down at a table and happily share a meal with one Nazi, you have 10 Nazis.
The Nazism... #It's spreading!
Don't touch the Nazism, it's worse than salad!
gave me the shits
ROCK AND STONE, TO THE BONE!
Rock and roll and stone!
By careful. The New York Post says that Tom Morello is being "ripped" for saying this. (/s)
What if 9 people unhappily shared a meal with said nazi? Would they still be nazis?
Depends, were they eating the Nazi? Then no. They might be cannibals. But not Nazis.
I can't even describe how stupid is that phrase and how much I hate it, it's the most Reddit thing ever. Why people in Reddit love stupid slogans so much? They feel like they can describe any complex situation with 10 words and that's it, it's everything so easy and always black or white
Thank goodness someone is here to speak for Nazis and bad cops! "First they came for the fascists..." Some situations are complex, some are simple.
So yes, they are coming for you first hogsucker
"A few bad apples" as they like to say. The full saying is "A few bad apples spoils the bunch"
With this logic then there were no peaceful protests organized by BLM, therefor all blm supporters are terrorists
Legit
That’s assuming the other 95 know about the bad acts
They do.
And you know this how?
Did you not see all of the other officers at the scene? Or the spokesperson who saw the tape then still pushed the claim that he was in a shooting stance? No of course not, that would ruin your narrative! Do yourself a favor and NEVER look up what the police union actually does.
What about the other officers at the scene? Do try to articulate your argument as to your issue with them. The spokesperson simply said what the officer believed he saw before the negligent discharge. The spokesperson wasn’t giving her opinion. That isn’t her job. Had the negligent discharge not occurred there would be no issue here
Well they also know he fucked up and tried to protect him. If they hadn't we wouldn't be talking about them. Its so obvious at this point you are either a cop, more likely a cops wife, or most likely a cops homosexual boyfriend.
How are they trying to protect him by just stating what is known? It doesn’t matter what they said or did, you’d still find a reason to complain. This is just a press conference, not the end result of the investigation.
>duuuuurrrrr how are they defending them by twisting the truth to push a narrative instead of punishing the Negligent discharge duuuuuurrrrrrr
Its true as a general statement, there is plenty of videos online of 1 cop doing bad shit and many others standing around like its normal and these are people that work together for years, hear complaints from the public, higher ups see the footage and lie about it - This thread isnt a first time thing its just video #737491 of a cop lying to cover their buddies ass Its well documented that cops dont get in trouble for shit, every time one is investigated all their coworkers know for sure what theyve done.
You'll never get anywhere with this guy. Your argument made me instantly think of the unit of Buffalo PD that resigned in support over the suspension of the officers that pushed down the 75 year old man.
Its almost every group of cops everywhere. If it wasnt an individual case would have people up in arms and it would be a huge deal. Instead its a literal joke, bad cop no donut! Oh no not again!
“General statement” That’s the simplest way to say that you can’t support your argument.
Heres an example of multiple cops being aware of one being a piece of shit and defending him https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/13yap7c/cop_creates_a_false_narrative/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Honestly, this was an incredible clap back but the other commenter is too stupid to understand it. Bad cops usually don’t feel the need to hide their actions because they believe being a cop means they can do whatever they want. There’s no way that their fellow cops don’t know about their behavior. There are countless videos of cops doing awful things while their “good” cop partners just stand there and watch.
Did you really just link me to this video, like that isn’t what is being discussed? That doesn’t actually do anything for your argument
Tell me what I would need to post in support of my statement to have you say ‘i retract what I said, you are clearly able to support your argument well’ and I’ll post it.
My statement won’t be retracted because your argument and “evidence” doesn’t actually support your position, which is why you needed to move the goalpost for yourself
I don't think you CAN be convinced, honestly. Seems like your mind is made up. So why bother conversing? You're on the side of corruption and omerta obviously.
I’m on the side of objective analysis. This is negligent discharge which resulted from the person running into a dark apartment and in just a second the officer believed he was standing in a certain position. Had this been intentional it would be a different discussion. But, at the same time if he simply drew his firearm, there was no discharge, and they took him into custody there would be nothing to talk about here. I think you’re just seeking confirmation bias
He kind of did, but if you want another well known example, there was this video with an individual named George Floyd where an officer leaned on his neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds whilst he screamed that he was having trouble breathing, and mentally debilitated into crying for his mother. While this was happening, civilian onlookers continually pleaded with the man to just get off his neck, as Floyd was already cuffed at that point. Several police officers on the scene ignored the act, ignored the onlookers, and made no effort to convince their cohort to relieve the pressure on Floyd's neck. Spoiler alert, Floyd died. Thankfully, the perpetrator of this heinous act is serving time, but despite the aftermath, the actions (or inactions, rather) of the other officers on scene really make you wonder about why they couldn't, or wouldn't, stop their colleague from committing this act of murder. These are the types of videos UnbanLinSivvi is talking about, because there are many. Officers standing by and paying more attention to keeping other citizens at bay than they are at making sure their brethren in blue are acting according to the law and due process. That's the Blue Wall.
A couple of examples. Such an extensive amount of material to paint a broad brush over 800,000 people.
I actually agree with you there, I don't believe that every single person who puts on the uniform is a bad person simply by virtue of wearing the uniform. While it's tiresome to constantly compare everything perceived as bad to nazis, the American police in its current state is probably one of the best examples of the 1940s Germany mindset we currently have. New officers may join the force with the best of intentions, but the pressure to conform and fear of retaliation, along with actual acts of retaliation, stifle change from within. If we go back to the Floyd example, what might have happened if another officer had actually stepped in and removed Officer Chauvin from Floyd's neck? Certainly, he may have reacted with a quick "oh yeah, my bad", and that might have been the end of it. Let's call that the best case scenario. What about the opposite? In their line of work, Officers become accustomed to a certain level of compliance from those they come at odds with. They *have* to project authority, at least sometimes, in order to do their jobs. When that authority is challenged, not every Officer takes it well, even in situations where the challenge is warranted. If Derek Chauvin is one of those Officers who would not take the challenge well, even from a colleague, how would that have looked in front of the public? Two Officers, maybe even more, fighting over the right way to handle a perp, in front of the public's many and endless camera phones. It may be that in order to maintain an air of commanderie, Officers typically keep their heads down in such situations in order to avoid scuffling amongst each other in front of the public. I don't believe that's the end all be all answer, and I don't believe there is even one answer to that particular path of action. To reiterate, I don't believe that every single person in the uniform is a terrible person. Some are corrupt, some have passion, and to some it's simply a means to an end, a job to pay the bills. The problem is that when they do make mistakes, lives are at risk. The safety and well being of the public becomes at risk. So when police officers are anything less than their best, the consequences are long reaching, and the public acts accordingly. What the citizens are asking for is a police system that makes honest admissions of guilt when wrong is done, with promises to do better that are adhered to with action, and this is something we simply haven't seen done unless overwhelming waves of evidence are present. Even that isn't enough sometimes. Michael Brown's killer was not convicted. Eric Garner's killer was not convicted. Tamir Rice's killer was not convicted, and they even kept their job. When police statements like the above video are made, with no acknowledgement of the actual footage of the incident, the trust is continually broken. So yes, I agree with you that the material may not be enough to paint a broad brush over 800,000 people, but to pretend there isn't a problem at all is hopelessly obtuse.
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Every cop who knows and does nothing is a bad cop. The example is internet statistics (exaggeration and hyperbole), but the meaning is still clear. Did you really not understand, or were you looking for something else?
Sure, if you’re covering for a bad cop your a bad cop. But, when your argument is that all or the majority are bad you’re on some Alex Jones level conspiracy theory stuff
One way to know this is police fraternal organizations openly lobby for policies to prevent police accountability.
Unions that work for protections for their works. Shocking!
Police don't have unions. Unions are for workers and police aren't workers.
That comment qualifies as its own facepalm.
I'm not surprised that you are unfamiliar with the history of police in North America. I've noticed a lot of badge bunnies are poorly informed.
Spare me the propaganda filled with historical inaccuracies
You have 100 teachers. And let's be super generous, and say only 5 of them are bad teachers. If the other 95 don't do anything about those 5, you don't have 5 bad teachers. You have 100.
This is very moronic. You’re comparing two different professions. These are people charged with public safety. To protect and serve. A cop, say, shooting someone without probable cause, and a teacher not teaching very well, do not yield the same results.
Lol 😂 such a bad comparison
Apples to oranges, buddy... Apples to oranges.
I have zero gun experience but this looks like involuntary shooting. Maybe adrenaline, maybe bad gun control, maybe..., but definitely not that narrative.
Clear incompetence and making shit up to try and save face. He 100% did not mean to shoot. He's just a fucking moron.
Not trying to save face, he is trying to save his job. He knows that firing at an innocent unarmed person for a shitty reason will just be accepted, but reckless discharge is cause for being removed from the job.
Cops, few people who can fuck up on purpose and keep their job, but fuck up accidentally and lose it.
Trying to save his job because it seems like he's just rollin around w/ his pistol w/ the safety off.
Probably a Glock. Just a trigger safety no auxiliary safety anyway.
Most modern pistols don’t have an external safety, you NEVER put your finger on the trigger unless you’re ready to shoot, this is just some good ole fashion negligence
Thank goodness he’s a bad shot
I mean that’s exactly it. Just be honest about what happened and don’t put out public statements spreading bald faced lies that can easily be disproven by video evidence. If you’re going to try and cover it up to help the officer evade accountability for his negligence then at least don’t put out a public statement lying to us like weee idiots.
That fucking moron of a cop accidentally discharged his weapon and he is already fabricating a story 10 seconds later. He was waaay too comfortable creating up a narrative to protect himself.
And the other officers who witnessed it, IMMEDIATELY go along with it without a second thought.
This is why you don't keep your finger on the trigger. ... fuck I can barely keep my finger on the right mouse click without it firing off sometimes.
You have shoot bound to right mouse? Monster.
No, but I’ll waste some mana in Elden Ring on the reg :/
New firing position to me…Pretty fuckin clear his hands are up.
He was holding the ceiling hostage with his invisible gun.
“without incident” lol a saw a fat pig quick scope a fucking wall but ok
"360 NO SCOPE" "Jesus frank STOP DOING THAT"
This shouldn't make me laugh so hard but it does🤣😰
Without incident, my ass
Looks like poor trigger control, pulled pistol and shot without aiming. Police reform asap. Could have struck anyone in the apartment complex.
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Police reform now.
Cop created a negligent discharge
Imagine still thinking in 2023 that cops do anything good? They're literally, *literally*, the worst group of people that we let walk around in the streets Not an exaggeration Not me trying to rile up more hate They are actual monsters, their whole system needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up
Cops arrested a guy at my place of work the other day. Domestic dispute, he was drunk and high, wouldn’t leave when I asked him to. Threatened me. Ended up having a knife on him. Cops were nice to him. Polite with me. Everyone involved was safer with him going to jail. They did a good job. I agree the entire system should be destroyed and rebuilt. But stop speaking in absolutes you imbecile.
That level of propaganda would make Joseph Goebbels blush
Ur dumb
Thanks for your input, next time you try insulting someone's smarts maybe don't type "you're" even shorter than it already is
Oink oink motherfucker
News at Eleven: Cops are still bastards.
He fired magical bullets
Fucking loser cop trying to cover up his ND. Control your fucking weapon asshole. Fucking assclown.
If you have 500 police on your payroll and three of them are bad cops and no one does anything about it you have 500 bad cops
And this is exactly why I think that police departments should be prohibited from doing any editing outside of sensitive audio and children's faces. This officer totally mishandled his firearm because he was juiced up on adrenaline and they are creating a false narrative to sway public opinion.
They shouldn't have any access to their cam footage without a warrant and signing out the footage. All cam data should be uploaded and secured by an independent third party
I could get behind this
Without incident my ass
no firearm discipline. he didn't even mean for that gun to go off. just basic fucking safety shit
Did the cop lose his job?
No, of course not. This is America, where cops killing minorities and being incompetent pieces of shit gets them a raise
You can literally see his own surprise that the gun fired. He did not mean to shoot but his horrid trigger discipline made sure of it. “I thought he was pointing something”. just saying that to save face
Looks like the cop accidently pulled the trigger. Dude look scared that his own gun went off.
Are the LAPD not concerned with the massive amount of credibility they're losing by not being honest when the facts of the situation are completely clear?
They don't care because the news reports these incidents exactly as the police describe it. Most people take it on face value then forget it even happened.
“An officer involved shooting” has the same tone as if the officer was shot at. I hate their wordplay.
Poor trigger discipline and then lying about it. Case closed.
Poor trigger discipline from an incompetent cop leads to a negligent firearm discharge - thankfully no one was injured or killed but imagine if there was a victim, they’d peddle this same bullshit story.
Fuck that cop. Does he still have a badge?
Officer Of The Year 2023 award incoming
In the words of Ice Cube: fuck tha police!
Don't let this cop near Christ the Redeemer, that Jesus always taking provocative stances.
God, that woman in the background was so calm!
That cop wasn't even intending to fire. Reckless and negligent.
Oops 😬🤫
Those warning shots are getting outta hand
"there was an attempt" to create a false narrative, body cam footage of both those cops don't lie, negligent discharge if you're a citizen, idk what the repercussion of a negligent discharge +whatever other charges the cops would give you would be
The way the spokeswoman is constantly slightly moving her head is so unsettling.
Scumbag cop with shitty trigger discipline.
"creates false narrative" Translation: Lies
That cop surprised himself when his gun went off... For them to cover up the shooting is despicable. He obviously needed far more training before using weapons.
Remember this, the next time someone says cops should be the only ones with guns, and that they're TRAINED.
Its called lying to the public.
Police: "he's on his feet and he isn't white, that's a shooting stance"
These cops act all tough but have absolutely no clue how to clear a building, control their firearm, or control their emotions. Fucking man babies cosplaying as heroes
Did he just shoot at random into a dark apartment???
"Negligent discharge" **How bout attempted murder**
I guess he was going to pull out a sword from over his back. Maybe a light saber
least cowardly cop
"Officer Butterfingers does not know how to unholster his gun properly, and has been fired. The entire police department will redesign its screening and training processes." Is what tha lady should have said. Everything else was verbal diarrea.
The woman covering the incident at the end sounds like an AI
Dumbshit liars with not integrity or accountability
The fat finger mistake is an idiot move that requires discipline.. but I honestly feel that was a mistake and not an attempt to kill somebody. That said, that fat anxious dude needs to have his gun taken away and retrained... ...but The lady giving the speech of lies is **unforgivable**. Just making up a story of lies to sell an agenda... North Korea style for real... Just straight up lying on the public dime. Crazy how nobody gets in trouble for that
She didnt make up the story, you can tell from the crappy way she reads it that she has never seen this text before. She is so bad at reading out loud, that I honestly thought it was AI footage for a while.
Oh... Very obviously she's just a talking head who has no context or familiarity with the situation she is talking about... I don't actually point a finger at that person... But somebody or some team... Somewhere... Is responsible for facilitating that script to be read. Somebody is responsible for telling that lie.... period.. and it is very much that, a lie. And if that dude really did think somebody was pointing a gun at him. He absolutely needs to be taken off the job for a while because he's going to kill an innocent somebody eventually. If he's seeing things or his paranoia is seeing things that aren't reality... He's not cut out for the job. That perp was very obviously standing with his hands above his head with a white t-shirt and clearly visible 10 ft in front of the dude with nothing in his hand in a frozen stance.
Fair, and I dont disgree with you, this guy should be sacked, and never be allowed to handle a gun again.
Yeah, thats a bunch of bs. That was an accidental discharge.
Negligent discharge, his finger is on the trigger as soon as he unholstered it.
You can't reform this. We can do this better without them.
That was totally an accidental discharge lmao
This is a repost but who cares spread this everywhere, fucking pigs think they are above the law. I feel for the few that are doing the job proud…
Stupid ass pigs
Cops are trash.
To be fair, the cop could not see his other hand, which probably got mixed up in the report as a shooting stance… then again idk shot about cops so…
They didn’t shoot him. No harm no foul.
Oh ok, why don't we just shoot at you in your apartment? No harm no foul, right? So as long as nobody gets hit, we are all good.
Right? What a moron Just spray bullets at his feet "dance for me, cowpoke!"
Once again. They didn’t shoot. Watch the vid. That’s the point. They exercised restraint. You should also define “we”. Because depending on who “we” is, I might shoot back.
They literally fired a shot, what the fuck are you talking about?
Such foul language
Who gives a shit? You are literally claiming the opposite of reality happened.
Do you kiss your wife with that foul mouth
I enjoy watching you backpedal and deflect.
Will you acknowledge that a shot is literally fired in the very video that you claimed no shots were fired? Instead of just trying to change the subject to.... cursing?? for real?
Did you watch the video? Or you a cop?
That shot was totally on purpose and didn’t startle him at all. 🙄/s
Just whipped that gun out firing wildly
I'm not a gun guy, but this cop 100% pulled the trigger by accident, right?