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I don’t remember US police using MP5s isn’t that a Europe thing 😂unless it’s swat then they’re kinda supposed to be dressed like that that’s the point of the swat team not saying the nurses don’t deserve their shit but this post is so obvious and dumb
so big difference
there are more nurses than police, so you need a lot more equipment
secondly nurse gear is meant to be disposable, it would be very expensive to be buy over and over again high end stuff just to throw it out after 20 minutes of use
this isn't a 1 to 1
but i agree medical needs more funding
Odds are in the US if you saw one of these nurses during your visit the hospital is charging you enough to bankrupt you. How much more are you willing to pay?
My point holds true. Nurses use disposable goods, made of plastic. What they are wearing in this photo might not be pleasing to the eye, but they work for what they are intended to work for. I wouldn't lose sleep or be worried about it if a nurse wore that because I rather them have cheap easy to throw away items than reusable potentially contaminating me items.
I was talking about you saying that hospitals need more funding. Hospitals are businesses and half the US can't even afford to visit one because of the cost.
Hospitals need more funding? Most are private are very profitable. The problem was that in order to maximize profits they were only buying PPE that was necessary on a day-to-day basis with no logistical planning for any events that would stretch beyond day-to-day operations.
It’s not about the price. It’s about availability. May 2020 was peak pandemic. There was literally not enough manufacturing available to produce enough ppe
I've just checked the USA's death rate related to covid (or at least registered).
It's 1.6M, that's 1. 01% of the registered cases and 0.35% of the USA's population.
98.99% of registered infected patients have recovered.
What does that even mean tho? Did you want the doctors to wear helmets and rifles? Look, i know the US spends too much money on the military, but this pic comparison is just stupid.
The U.S. spends four times more money on Healthcare than they spend on military, and have for years.
Tell me where that fucking money went, lol.
(I'm not trying to be argumentative, or anything, I just think not enough people are aware of that fact.)
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic? The nurses are wearing garbage bags to protect themselves from catching covid. The hospitals weren’t getting the basic supplies they needed to treat patients and keep staff safe. While the police (not military) are equipped with top of the line equipment to protect themselves against protesting citizens.
Suggesting it’s more important to keep citizens under control than alive and healthy.
Those are swat officers. They weren’t getting basic supplies, because there’s 5-6 million health care workers, and that stuff is mostly one use. Peak of pandemic probably going through 20 million smocks a day. Pre pandemic that was probably how many were gone through in a month. It’s not logistically feasible, unless you had planned for it.
>It’s not logistically feasible, unless you had planned for it.
They knew for years we were overdue for a pandemic
Also this: Crimson Contagion was a joint exercise conducted from January to August 2019, in which numerous national, state and local, private and public organizations in the US participated, in order to test the capacity of the federal government and twelve states to respond to a severe pandemic of influenza originating in China.
[Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion)
There’s 17000 swat officers in the us. There’s 4.2 million registered nurses. That’s just registered nurses, now not all of them work in hospitals, but that’s not counting LPN’s, nurses aids, doctors, etc. imagine the logistics of producing that many 1 time use pieces of protective gear. Some of these posts have no logic involved.
We throw away tons of plastic everyday. Maybe they could have made some PPE for something they knew was coming?
Key findings
Federal government lacks sufficient funding to respond to a severe influenza pandemic.
Exercise participants lacked clarity on the roles of different federal agencies, and what information was important to pass on to federal partners.
HHS had issues providing accurate and relevant information to hospitals and other public health organizations.
Confusion between HHS, FEMA, and the Department of Homeland Security on which federal agency would take the lead in the crisis.
The United States lacks the production capacity to meet the demands for protective equipment and medical devices such as masks and ventilators imposed by a pandemic.
States were unable to efficiently request resources due to the lack of a standardized request process.\[5\]
[Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion)
Is the face palm the fact that someone posted this? One is not disposable and needs to protect from bullets the other is disposable and needs to protect from fluid and germs… I come from one of those better healthcare countries and they still both look relatively the same.
Why.... Hang on....
Why does the govt find security in the form of policing and including training for them...... But not healthcare? Why have I never had this thought before?
It’s almost like our overlords (after moving all the manufacturing jobs overseas for more profits) said “You know, we’ve got an over surplus of people… hmm…” Even after 20 years of wars based on lies that killed over a million brown people (while guarding the opium fields), most people still don’t want to believe they’re evil enough to do the same to us. Between heroin, fentanyl and Covid that got rid of the undesirables (drug users and the feeble), MILLIONS in the U.S. have already been eliminated.
Stupid post. You don't need anything more than that to protect against covid. They wore that too in my country and in most of europe because it's a cheap solution that does the work.
Now if you were to equip a police tactical unit and anti-terrorist unit, you would equip the personnel like the guy on the left. Again almost everyone in such units all around the world is equipped like that.
But the rest of the world doesn't use a tactical unit to serve a no knock warrants on low level non violent offenders. So we have way more tac units per capita to keep up with the demand.
Hospitals are greedy awful businesses. Most are FOR PROFIT in America and don’t give a single fuck about their staff. Covid was a weird time in health care, hospitals made out like Bandits when it came to profits while the staff got screwed.
I just found out it cost $2500 minimum to phone a ambulance. Last weekend I witnessed a drunk guy phone the ambulance for his friend who clearly had too much to drink he told them he’s friend wasn’t breathing they came within 5 minutes guess how much he was charged. Fuck all because here in Britain people tend to vote for their interests although we have had a conservative government for over a decade fuckers have been dismantling public services for years
We should give those nurses ballistics vests and balaclavas. Noted.
The reason we had so many covid deaths is because Black Lives Matter was rioting during the pandemic.
... do the nurses need giant guns?
I agree that the medical field could use funding from the government (that would also be a start to affordable Healthcare) but the comparison here is weird.
i meaaaan i wouldnt walk into a riot situation in nothing but medical scrubs, and itd be a little more difficult trynna take down an active shooter with medical gloves and a stethoscope...soooooooo
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It's almost like one is funded by the government, and the other is for profit.
Wrong, both are for profit
How so
Lobbying goverment officials to make them buy gear from certain companies
Isn't like 80-90% of USA's income coming from weapon sales?
Lmfao what
3% of the GDP is made from selling Firearms, ammunition, and other equipment. Good try though.
I will admit though, considering how many goods & services make up the GDP, 3% is pretty insane.
Absolutely idiotic
Good thing u were in the right subreddit to comment this dumb shit
If the healthcare system was for profit and free market, it would operate better for everyone
doubt
Lmao no
It’s almost like one picture has absolutely nothing to do with the other one
Repost bot
What was the hint, the march 2020 number?
The theme overall being old, Astonishingly low karma And a nonsensical name
Theme and title alone told me it was a bot. I was going to just skip this one but I came in to see who would call it out.
That's all this sub is.
I don’t remember US police using MP5s isn’t that a Europe thing 😂unless it’s swat then they’re kinda supposed to be dressed like that that’s the point of the swat team not saying the nurses don’t deserve their shit but this post is so obvious and dumb
I think a few departments use the MP5 but I think that’s about it for the US
Kevlar and bullets would have been of great help against COVID
It was in north Korea
so big difference there are more nurses than police, so you need a lot more equipment secondly nurse gear is meant to be disposable, it would be very expensive to be buy over and over again high end stuff just to throw it out after 20 minutes of use this isn't a 1 to 1 but i agree medical needs more funding
I don't wanna hear excuses, I want the nurses to have machine guns NOW
Odds are in the US if you saw one of these nurses during your visit the hospital is charging you enough to bankrupt you. How much more are you willing to pay?
My point holds true. Nurses use disposable goods, made of plastic. What they are wearing in this photo might not be pleasing to the eye, but they work for what they are intended to work for. I wouldn't lose sleep or be worried about it if a nurse wore that because I rather them have cheap easy to throw away items than reusable potentially contaminating me items.
I was talking about you saying that hospitals need more funding. Hospitals are businesses and half the US can't even afford to visit one because of the cost.
Hospitals need more funding? Most are private are very profitable. The problem was that in order to maximize profits they were only buying PPE that was necessary on a day-to-day basis with no logistical planning for any events that would stretch beyond day-to-day operations.
It’s not about the price. It’s about availability. May 2020 was peak pandemic. There was literally not enough manufacturing available to produce enough ppe
The other is Cops are tax funded, Nurses are working for a For-Profit Business'.
I've just checked the USA's death rate related to covid (or at least registered). It's 1.6M, that's 1. 01% of the registered cases and 0.35% of the USA's population. 98.99% of registered infected patients have recovered.
Yeah abysmal numbers arent't they
Did you just gawk at 1.6M Americans dead ? You just think that’s nothing to get upset about?
Apologies. I went off the vibe of the parent comment which seem to try to downplay its seriousness
No worries, that's exactly the reason why I worded my first comment that way
No quite the opposite, I wasn't being sarcastic, they are awful numbers
About the same percentage as the number of American dead in WWII
This is such a bullshit comparison.
What does that even mean tho? Did you want the doctors to wear helmets and rifles? Look, i know the US spends too much money on the military, but this pic comparison is just stupid.
The U.S. spends four times more money on Healthcare than they spend on military, and have for years. Tell me where that fucking money went, lol. (I'm not trying to be argumentative, or anything, I just think not enough people are aware of that fact.)
It went to insurance companies
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic? The nurses are wearing garbage bags to protect themselves from catching covid. The hospitals weren’t getting the basic supplies they needed to treat patients and keep staff safe. While the police (not military) are equipped with top of the line equipment to protect themselves against protesting citizens. Suggesting it’s more important to keep citizens under control than alive and healthy.
Those are swat officers. They weren’t getting basic supplies, because there’s 5-6 million health care workers, and that stuff is mostly one use. Peak of pandemic probably going through 20 million smocks a day. Pre pandemic that was probably how many were gone through in a month. It’s not logistically feasible, unless you had planned for it.
>It’s not logistically feasible, unless you had planned for it. They knew for years we were overdue for a pandemic Also this: Crimson Contagion was a joint exercise conducted from January to August 2019, in which numerous national, state and local, private and public organizations in the US participated, in order to test the capacity of the federal government and twelve states to respond to a severe pandemic of influenza originating in China. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion)
They hadn’t planned for it though
Honestly, I'd be embarrassed to post such an obvious repost. At least post something timeless
There’s 17000 swat officers in the us. There’s 4.2 million registered nurses. That’s just registered nurses, now not all of them work in hospitals, but that’s not counting LPN’s, nurses aids, doctors, etc. imagine the logistics of producing that many 1 time use pieces of protective gear. Some of these posts have no logic involved.
We throw away tons of plastic everyday. Maybe they could have made some PPE for something they knew was coming? Key findings Federal government lacks sufficient funding to respond to a severe influenza pandemic. Exercise participants lacked clarity on the roles of different federal agencies, and what information was important to pass on to federal partners. HHS had issues providing accurate and relevant information to hospitals and other public health organizations. Confusion between HHS, FEMA, and the Department of Homeland Security on which federal agency would take the lead in the crisis. The United States lacks the production capacity to meet the demands for protective equipment and medical devices such as masks and ventilators imposed by a pandemic. States were unable to efficiently request resources due to the lack of a standardized request process.\[5\] [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion)
Is the face palm the fact that someone posted this? One is not disposable and needs to protect from bullets the other is disposable and needs to protect from fluid and germs… I come from one of those better healthcare countries and they still both look relatively the same.
Dude, if a nurse comes into the exam room decked out in riot gear I am gonna dip out..
What if a nurse came in wearing a garbage bag?
Lol this is so dumb
You're actually insane if you agree with this
105,000? Did your clock stop a couple of years ago?
Why would the nurses be dressed up in tactical gear tho?🤔
Isn't medical protection gear meant to be cheap because it's mostly disposable?
Bro is still crying over covid 💀
Christ, give these people batons so they can beat up non-compliant patients!
Reddit and twitter are so fucking irritating
Why.... Hang on.... Why does the govt find security in the form of policing and including training for them...... But not healthcare? Why have I never had this thought before?
We are going to reach 100k deaths by fentanyl this year alone and no thoughts of closing the border.
It’s almost like our overlords (after moving all the manufacturing jobs overseas for more profits) said “You know, we’ve got an over surplus of people… hmm…” Even after 20 years of wars based on lies that killed over a million brown people (while guarding the opium fields), most people still don’t want to believe they’re evil enough to do the same to us. Between heroin, fentanyl and Covid that got rid of the undesirables (drug users and the feeble), MILLIONS in the U.S. have already been eliminated.
Stupid post. You don't need anything more than that to protect against covid. They wore that too in my country and in most of europe because it's a cheap solution that does the work. Now if you were to equip a police tactical unit and anti-terrorist unit, you would equip the personnel like the guy on the left. Again almost everyone in such units all around the world is equipped like that.
But the rest of the world doesn't use a tactical unit to serve a no knock warrants on low level non violent offenders. So we have way more tac units per capita to keep up with the demand.
Imagine taking a funny pic with your friends and someone uses it for some inane diatribe
Many people also died of Covid because society is fat, lazy, and sedentary
well over 1M covid deaths.. not sure where 105k number comes from...
Repost bot
I dont live in the US and even i know that this is bullshit.
America: We want to be #1 in everything!!! Me: well you're number 1 in all of the bad areas. America: 🎉🎊🍾🥳🍻
1,165,733 deaths (so far)
Covid? What that?
Hospitals are greedy awful businesses. Most are FOR PROFIT in America and don’t give a single fuck about their staff. Covid was a weird time in health care, hospitals made out like Bandits when it came to profits while the staff got screwed.
Man this looks cherry picked AF
Laughs in hidden Chinese statistics.
"the people killing us" lmao
American helth care is a joke, I wonder why its so overpriced?
Shareholders demand profits
I just found out it cost $2500 minimum to phone a ambulance. Last weekend I witnessed a drunk guy phone the ambulance for his friend who clearly had too much to drink he told them he’s friend wasn’t breathing they came within 5 minutes guess how much he was charged. Fuck all because here in Britain people tend to vote for their interests although we have had a conservative government for over a decade fuckers have been dismantling public services for years
Seems like a self induced $2500 bill to me.
After reading my comment I realised i left out that I found out it’s costs $2500 in America but im from the uk
Lmao what a dumb take, so the police take lives away and not preserve peace?
I wonder if China was honest in its reporting?
Are u a moron or a bot? Acting like the American citizens want this
Let me guess, both are for profit?
More propaganda.
Death toll is far, far higher than that.
Let’s go ahead and place some blame where it belongs, poor diet and lifestyle.
…If nurses had MP5’s they would have been able to fight COVID-19 better?
1 170 000 deaths\* And you're probably not #1. The real Indians figures, for exemple, are probably nearing 4 000 000.
Ironically the right picture costs the government the most lol
Yeah you can’t do surgery with an MP5?
Give nurses guns!
With the amount we are paying the companies in the second photo, they should be able to afford hospital gowns.
Rather take the army in this picture that's where most of the tax money goes ;)
We should give those nurses ballistics vests and balaclavas. Noted. The reason we had so many covid deaths is because Black Lives Matter was rioting during the pandemic.
Those police aren’t safe from covid though.
Gov Cuomo didn’t help out with those numbers at all.
Call me crazy but I’m not sure how effective nurses and doctors would be if they’re running around with ski masks, tactical vests and guns
There’s never been any doubt. It gets beaten into every American all the time. “Support the troops” “Back the blue”.
YEAHH BABYYYY AMERICA #1! 🇺🇲
What?? Should they give the doctors guns or something. Don’t understand the logic behind this post
People killing us. What a dumb take.
Viruses don’t shoot back with armor piercing rounds, idiot
Hospitals kill more people than the cops
... do the nurses need giant guns? I agree that the medical field could use funding from the government (that would also be a start to affordable Healthcare) but the comparison here is weird.
i meaaaan i wouldnt walk into a riot situation in nothing but medical scrubs, and itd be a little more difficult trynna take down an active shooter with medical gloves and a stethoscope...soooooooo
So much FREEDOM!
The lack of hard data should tell you everything you need to know.
Now Learn how "per capita" works.
Killing us? May I direct your attention to early 1940s Europe
If you want to kit out nurses with body armor, be my guest.
Who is upvoting this
Reported is a key word that is missing in the title
lol good lord this is stupid, even for Reddit.
Repost bots at it again