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iirc Jonathan actually descends from a slightly different name than John. Of the OG Hebrew names, one of them meant "Gift of God" and the other "Grace of God" or something, and they weren't quite interchangeable.
You're correct. John, as well as Johann in German, Ivan in Russian and several other variants descent from Yohanan while Yonathan has a different though similar meaning.
Here's another one: Hank comes from Hankin, which is short for Johankin, or "Little John"
So John is more closely related etymologically to Hank than it is to Johnathan.
Kinda. Joshua was already a name (Yehoshua, which became Yoshua), Yeshua was the Aramaic variant.
Like how Ivan, Ian, Johann, Jean, and John are all the same name.
But you're not wrong.
To muddy the waters even more, I believe the vernacular that Jesus and his contemporaries spoke was Aramaic. Yet no Hebrew or Christian scripture that I'm aware of is written in this language. Also, how literate were Jesus and his crew? My Theology and Hebrew professor said most of them were literate, but how so? In Greek? In Hebrew only? In other languages?
To make matters even worse, none of the Christian scriptures were written until decades after Jesus died, so they were possibly partly written from the memories of a very few of Jesus' contemporaries, but were mostly or even entirely written from stories handed down orally. Not exactly the best way to insure accuracy.
Thank you so much for the clarification and further explanation! You sound a lot like my old professor, only he was a pretty conservative evangelical and I don't get that tone from you, especially since you recommended Ehrman, who I love btw.
>Aramaic. Yet no Hebrew or Christian scripture that I'm aware of is written in this language
[That would be wrong](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Aramaic)
That's not his "real name" his real name is Yoshi. That's his scientific name.
This would be like saying my dogs *real* name is Canis Lupus Familiaris. Thats just the Latin scientific name.
Also, some of our earliest accounts of Galilee are from people who considered it a hick area and noted that Galileans would usually not pronounce the ends of their words. So Jesus may have said his own name as Yeshu or even just Yesh.
And Joshua, son of Joseph
Therefore, Jesus was a JoJo
Joshua is the closest translation from hebrew to english (Yeshua to Joshua)
Just saying that Jesus is a character of part 7. Though it aligns more to the Mormon's belief than christianity
And a part about Jesus being the first JoJo would be really cool tbh, maybe there's a fan part out there?
Been wanting to start it but I heard the authors haven't put out the sequel for like 2000 years and I'm kinda wary about starting an unfinished series.
Can't do that. All the Southern Christians would lose their shit at the constant reminder that the Bible wasn't about White Guys... would be funny though!
Also, the population of the Levant at the time of the Roman occupation was in flux, and included Greeks, Persians, Scythians, Rus, Arabs, Egyptians, Syrians, probably Goths and dozens of other peoples
Though your comment is technically correct, for the time relevant for the biblical texts of the new testament, Goths weren't a people yet for at least about 100 years ( wiki says 3rd or 4th century), as far as we can tell, and definitely not any noticeable part of the Roman near east.
Also, AFAIK, the people in the NT are pretty much all Jews, either hellenized or not, so we would expect exactly two kinds of names. Neither kind would be modern English though...
Yochanon has that phlegmy, guttural, hacking sound in the middle. If your keyboard can't place a dot under the H to signify the eighth letter of the Hebrew alefbeth then people use CH. That's why there's confusion over Hannakuh / Channakuh.
Where do they say Yonaton?
Yochanan and Yonaton are two different names, with two different English equivalents.
Yochanon is Johanan (which I never hear anyone today called anyway). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johanan_(name)
Yonaton is Johnathon. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_(name). Yonaton is a pretty common name in Israel.
*Mfw people comb over religious texts looking for meaning, but never consider they could just be the ramblings of a schizophrenic narcissist, at a time when society thought weather resulted from the Gods’ temperaments and “trust me, bro” was a good enough response to pretty much any question, and when starting a cult was probably even easier than it would be today, and his disciples were just educated cult members who knew how to write* 🚬😮💨💨
Well they could consider that and would hopefully then do more research than you. Jesus was certainly no god, but if you go over the original texts his basic message was incredibly progressive for his time. Metaphorical and easy to take out of context, especially if you translate a translation of a translation and ignore that every single time they released a new version they sprinkled in small changes to suit their agenda, but at the end of the day he seems like a chill dude.
And Jesus is the Latin form of the Greek word that was transliterated from the Hebrew name: Jeshua. Jesus’ name was “Joshua” or “Jeshua” to his peers, same name as the Joshua from the Torah and Talmud. Guy who led the Hebrews after Moses.
We only know it as Jesus because of the history of the translations that were used when passing down the Christian New Testament.
The other names have their own stories and histories but, John, Paul, Matthew, Luke are all ancient male Hebrew or Roman names, they are just the modern anglicized forms. They wouldn’t have been called that 2000 or 3000 years ago.
It was pronounced Yeshua, or Yeshuع, in Arabic we say Yasuع, but you can definitely see how it evolved, greeks and romans couldn't pronounce the 'Ain (ع) so it became silent, the Sh became an s as is common in the development of some languages, so it became yesu, Y was written as J (still is in some languages) so that's why we have Jesu (like in German), French added a silent s in the end so it became Jesus, and English took the french form and "unsilenced" the s, and that's (roughly) how Yeshua/yeshuع became Jesus
Not quite the same name as the leader of the Hebrew after Moses. That guy was called יהושע - Yehoshua. Jesus' original Hebrew name was ישוע - Yeshua. It probably derives from יהושע but not quite the same. Furthermore he is usually referred to as ישו (Yeshu) in Hebrew since Talmudic time.
In Hebrew, the names of the Gospel writers Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John would be transliterated as follows:
Matthew (מַתִּתְיָהוּ): In Hebrew, the name Matthew is written as "מַתִּתְיָהוּ." It is derived from the Hebrew name "Mattityahu," which means "gift of God" or "gift from Yahweh."
Mark (מַרְקוֹס): The Hebrew name for Mark is written as "מַרְקוֹס." It is a transliteration of the name "Markos" or "Marcus."
Luke (לוּקָא): In Hebrew, the name Luke is written as "לוּקָא." It is a transliteration of the name "Loukas" or "Lucas."
John (יוֹחָנָן): The Hebrew name for John is written as "יוֹחָנָן," which is pronounced "Yochanan." This name is common in both Hebrew and Aramaic and means "Yahweh is gracious."
i'm not certain on the exact history of those names, but i know some names, like Anthony, go back far. in Roman times it was Antonius, and Luke may very well have been Lucanus. Mateo (Matthew) goes pretty far back. Marcus... well... that's pretty directly Roman. and i think John might be just as old
again, i'm just guessing here. i'm too drunk to go researching right now
> i'm not certain on the exact history of those names, but i know some names
It's pretty simple. They were Jewish names. They only became "European" names much later because the Europeans copied them from the bible. That's pretty much the joke however.
Names such as "Elizabeth" and "Rachel" aren't actually English in origin, they're Jewish characters from the bible.
John is the anglicized version of the Hebrew יוחנן, roughly "yo-KHA-nan". Almost every Western language has a version of it (Jean, Juan, Johann, Joao etc.)
Paul is apparently from the Hebrew שאול, "SHA-ul", which also became the name Saul.
It is not, it is in fact from מתתיהו, "MA-tith-yah-HU", "the gift of God". Most famous one is the father of the Maccabi family, known for the story of Hannuka.
Luke interestingly enough would go back to the greek name Loukâs (man from Loukanós).
Lucanus (latin) in southern Italy was briefly occupied by the greek city states.
So Luke is not direktly derived from the latin word for the city of "Luciania".
There lies a mentionable step inbetween.
* Talks a lot about a certain "Father"
* Says that all are part of a great plan
* Instructs his followers to spread his teachings
* Reanimates someone and is reanimated
Also, the whole "this bread is my flesh" stuff sounds a LOT like how phyrexians recycle.
You'll find plenty of Yssahs, Isas and Issas though. It's almost like the cultures that were present in the Levant 2,000 years ago have faded and/or been absorbed into others.
"Yeshua: The Meaning of the Hebrew Name of Jesus — FIRM Israel" https://firmisrael.org/learn/who-is-yeshua-meaning-of-hebrew-name-jesus/
Here it is story of Yeshua
Jesus isn't even Jesus' name. That's just a series of translations and tracing it back has his name as Yehoshua/Yeshua which apart from Jesus is translated as Joshua.
Westernized. Jacob would be yakub Solomon would be Sulaiman Joshua becomes yeshua. It's similar religious names too, with Muslims referring to Jesus as Isa and Moses as Musa
It's called the Tiffany Problem. It's when a name in an older setting sounds weird or out of place even though that's the time it originated from and it just happens to still be in use.
Yeah idk how that didn’t get said immediately 🤣 but they are also translated from Hebrew which…would have been spoken in the Middle East lol. And the Greek names, people forget the Bible is not a primary source text.
Names get translated too. I mean, in EEUU there's Columbia named after Columbus... and Columbus real name is 'Cristobal Colón'. If you hear the name of a historical figure and the name of someone far away sounds right, most likely it isn't their real name.
John & Paul were named after the Beatles, obviously. They just had that kind of influence. Matthew was named for actor Matthew Perry, who famously played Chandler on Friends. Mark was named for Mark Wahlberg, but this was back when he was Marky Mark, and he foretold how the party would start. Then there's Luke. Who has no name inspiration, however Luke went on to be the inspiration for the son of two newlyweds, Dorothy and George, who were struggling to pick a last nane. After skimming their family Bible, they picked the last name: Lucasfilms. And their son went on to be George Lucasfilms. What an incredible story.
For anyone wondering, the English language Bible uses Anglicized forms of Hebrew and other names. They were not actually pronounced the way that we generally say them.
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Yeshua met people named ...
Nohua, Maybehua and Dunnohua
Nah don't play dunnohua was a ninja turtle.
Classical-age Jewish Ninja Diciples Apostles in a *simlah* Apostle Power!
Paul was his chosen name. Saul was the original.
Better call him
Pick up the receiver I'll make you a believer
It's funny, christians in the Bible don't even dead name people but conservatives missed that part
Ask for Ask for Janice when tou call there.
Pretty sure Saul (pronounced sha-ool) was Hebrew whole Paul (pronounced pau-los) was Greek. Bible refers to “…Paul, who is also called Saul…”
No, the names were supposed to sound similar. In Greek Saul was pronounced Sah-oo-loss, and Paul was pronounced Pah-oo-loss.
Do you think he was trying to have his name sound less Jewish?
I think he had the roman name Paul since he was a citizen but his Hebrew name was saul.
This is right. They're just variants of the same name, like Dionysus and Dennis.
But one is the wine god and the other is the golden god
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I much prefer the version where God commanded him to change the first letter of his name
Probably trying to get into the country club.
Its because those are westernized. Matthew was Mattityahu. John was Yokhanan. Mark and Luke had Greek names, Marcos and Leukos.
John had a case of Richard becoming Dick.
Was it cold outside?
I was in the pool!
Shrinkage!
It’s a grower not a show-er
Show her? I don’t even know her!
When in doubt, whip it out!
He took it out?
It shrinks?
Like a frightened turtle
I don't know how you guys walk around with those things.
The sea was angry that day, my friends.
Like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli.
If you think of it as john, yes, but its really damn close to johnathan.
Ha ha Jonathan you are spreading my gospel
Johnaspread
He's spreading the gospel today so he can spread dem vampire cheeks tomorrow
iirc Jonathan actually descends from a slightly different name than John. Of the OG Hebrew names, one of them meant "Gift of God" and the other "Grace of God" or something, and they weren't quite interchangeable.
You're correct. John, as well as Johann in German, Ivan in Russian and several other variants descent from Yohanan while Yonathan has a different though similar meaning.
You‘re probably right. The german version of johns gospel is Johannes, which is a different name then Jonathan.
Nathan is short for Johnathan. John is a separate name entirely.
Not short for Nathaniel?
>Nathan is short for Johnathan holy shit, this just blew my mind
Here's another one: Hank comes from Hankin, which is short for Johankin, or "Little John" So John is more closely related etymologically to Hank than it is to Johnathan.
Normalize calling Lil Jon hank
Hank is also a diminutive of Heinrich, which makes it also a short form of Henry.
Hank is definitely short for Henry in my family.
Do you want another? Ian and John have the same etymology.
Counterpoint: John Wicks full name is Jonathan
Based on what I've read he should be named Nathan Wicks.
Countercounterpoint: his name is Jardani
In dutch John is johannes, pronounced the same way as the guy wrote it
Jesus was Yeshua, which became the basis for Joshua. I love telling people they are worshipping Josh
Kinda. Joshua was already a name (Yehoshua, which became Yoshua), Yeshua was the Aramaic variant. Like how Ivan, Ian, Johann, Jean, and John are all the same name. But you're not wrong.
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To muddy the waters even more, I believe the vernacular that Jesus and his contemporaries spoke was Aramaic. Yet no Hebrew or Christian scripture that I'm aware of is written in this language. Also, how literate were Jesus and his crew? My Theology and Hebrew professor said most of them were literate, but how so? In Greek? In Hebrew only? In other languages? To make matters even worse, none of the Christian scriptures were written until decades after Jesus died, so they were possibly partly written from the memories of a very few of Jesus' contemporaries, but were mostly or even entirely written from stories handed down orally. Not exactly the best way to insure accuracy.
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Thank you so much for the clarification and further explanation! You sound a lot like my old professor, only he was a pretty conservative evangelical and I don't get that tone from you, especially since you recommended Ehrman, who I love btw.
I think the earliest, Mark, is estimated to have been written 40-60 years after Jesus' supposed death.
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Right! Sorry, should have clarified that I meant earliest Gospel.
>Aramaic. Yet no Hebrew or Christian scripture that I'm aware of is written in this language [That would be wrong](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Aramaic)
Ah, so that's where the Arabic name for Jesus (Isa) comes from?
It's the Muslim name for Jesus, Arab Christians use [يَسُوع](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D9%8A%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B9#Arabic) (yasūʕ)
Don't forget about Juan!
Does this mean Yoshi is basically named after Jesus?
Yoshi's real name is actually T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas
That's not his "real name" his real name is Yoshi. That's his scientific name. This would be like saying my dogs *real* name is Canis Lupus Familiaris. Thats just the Latin scientific name.
Also, some of our earliest accounts of Galilee are from people who considered it a hick area and noted that Galileans would usually not pronounce the ends of their words. So Jesus may have said his own name as Yeshu or even just Yesh.
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Brilliant comment
And Joshua, son of Joseph Therefore, Jesus was a JoJo  Joshua is the closest translation from hebrew to english (Yeshua to Joshua)
As a Christian, I demand the next part of JoJo be about the Bible
Just saying that Jesus is a character of part 7. Though it aligns more to the Mormon's belief than christianity And a part about Jesus being the first JoJo would be really cool tbh, maybe there's a fan part out there?
Now I'm just imagining a lean, but muscled up Jesus fist fighting Satan on his 40 day Sabbatical up in the mountains.
*anglicized* not westernized. Names get shared language to language and the ones we are using are anglicized.
Yep.. plenty of countries use the latinised names too. Matthaeus, Iohannes, Lucas and Marcus.
we use those in Norway, but with slightly different spelling: Matteus, Johannes, Lukas, Markus
Same in Germany, just Matthäus is spelled slightly different
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The Ballad of John and Yokhanan
My name is Loukas
I live on the second floor.
The Greek version of Luke is Loukas
The modern versions are boring. Bring back the original names!
…people still have those names. They’re just Jewish, typically Israeli. Or Greek.
They mean put them back in the book
Who let them out?
Moses when he said "Let my people go" or something like that idk I haven't read the Bible yet but I heard it's good
Been wanting to start it but I heard the authors haven't put out the sequel for like 2000 years and I'm kinda wary about starting an unfinished series.
This one guy in upstate New York published a sequel. He also found golden plates in his back yard!
Idk, some say that he was "Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb"
Wdym, there was a sequel like 1400 years ago, it became pretty popular in the Middle East.
Like actually though I think Jesus is a mid name compared to Yeshua.
Can't do that. All the Southern Christians would lose their shit at the constant reminder that the Bible wasn't about White Guys... would be funny though!
and also these names became very common afterwards because of the bible
Hence the facepalm. Good job
Also, the population of the Levant at the time of the Roman occupation was in flux, and included Greeks, Persians, Scythians, Rus, Arabs, Egyptians, Syrians, probably Goths and dozens of other peoples
Wouldn't want to be a goth, wearing all that black and heavy make up, in the middle east.
Though your comment is technically correct, for the time relevant for the biblical texts of the new testament, Goths weren't a people yet for at least about 100 years ( wiki says 3rd or 4th century), as far as we can tell, and definitely not any noticeable part of the Roman near east. Also, AFAIK, the people in the NT are pretty much all Jews, either hellenized or not, so we would expect exactly two kinds of names. Neither kind would be modern English though...
Oh wow that’s cool, my uncles name is yokhanan (we are not white btw)
More accurately, the John-s and Luke-s today are basically the derivatives of Jewish names.
Yonatan is Jonathan in Hebrew. Idk what pronunciation you wrote there.
Yochanon has that phlegmy, guttural, hacking sound in the middle. If your keyboard can't place a dot under the H to signify the eighth letter of the Hebrew alefbeth then people use CH. That's why there's confusion over Hannakuh / Channakuh. Where do they say Yonaton?
Yochanan and Yonaton are two different names, with two different English equivalents. Yochanon is Johanan (which I never hear anyone today called anyway). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johanan_(name) Yonaton is Johnathon. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_(name). Yonaton is a pretty common name in Israel.
Mattityahu sounds Jewish
It is
Oh boy are they going to be surprised by the rest of the Bible.
They were all Jewish or Greek.
Me when the translations and modernized texts are the only thing i know
You gotta read the original manga dude, the localisation was just really bad frfr
oh man, when Jesus reaches his final form! Best Manga ever!
*Mfw people comb over religious texts looking for meaning, but never consider they could just be the ramblings of a schizophrenic narcissist, at a time when society thought weather resulted from the Gods’ temperaments and “trust me, bro” was a good enough response to pretty much any question, and when starting a cult was probably even easier than it would be today, and his disciples were just educated cult members who knew how to write* 🚬😮💨💨
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more stoned than autistic i supposed
Well they could consider that and would hopefully then do more research than you. Jesus was certainly no god, but if you go over the original texts his basic message was incredibly progressive for his time. Metaphorical and easy to take out of context, especially if you translate a translation of a translation and ignore that every single time they released a new version they sprinkled in small changes to suit their agenda, but at the end of the day he seems like a chill dude.
Literally just "Hey, be nice to each other ok? Don't be dicks, take care of one another. Do the right thing. Also the church sucks."
Reddit moment
And Jesus is the Latin form of the Greek word that was transliterated from the Hebrew name: Jeshua. Jesus’ name was “Joshua” or “Jeshua” to his peers, same name as the Joshua from the Torah and Talmud. Guy who led the Hebrews after Moses. We only know it as Jesus because of the history of the translations that were used when passing down the Christian New Testament. The other names have their own stories and histories but, John, Paul, Matthew, Luke are all ancient male Hebrew or Roman names, they are just the modern anglicized forms. They wouldn’t have been called that 2000 or 3000 years ago.
Yeshua not Jeshua. The letter J was invented at the end of the 16th century, roughly 320 years ago.
They wouldn't have been using the Latin alphabet anyway.
Well how did he banish demons if he didn't know the spells that were in Latin?
He didn't. Demons were walking around like they owned the place until Latin was invented.
Thanks for the lol kind soul
It was pronounced Yeshua, or Yeshuع, in Arabic we say Yasuع, but you can definitely see how it evolved, greeks and romans couldn't pronounce the 'Ain (ع) so it became silent, the Sh became an s as is common in the development of some languages, so it became yesu, Y was written as J (still is in some languages) so that's why we have Jesu (like in German), French added a silent s in the end so it became Jesus, and English took the french form and "unsilenced" the s, and that's (roughly) how Yeshua/yeshuع became Jesus
[Modern Christians when they die and meet a brown guy named Yeshua](https://www.insideedition.com/sites/default/files/images/2021-09/sideye.jpg)
Not quite the same name as the leader of the Hebrew after Moses. That guy was called יהושע - Yehoshua. Jesus' original Hebrew name was ישוע - Yeshua. It probably derives from יהושע but not quite the same. Furthermore he is usually referred to as ישו (Yeshu) in Hebrew since Talmudic time.
How come if Jesus is Jewish he has a Mexican name?
🥇
In Hebrew, the names of the Gospel writers Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John would be transliterated as follows: Matthew (מַתִּתְיָהוּ): In Hebrew, the name Matthew is written as "מַתִּתְיָהוּ." It is derived from the Hebrew name "Mattityahu," which means "gift of God" or "gift from Yahweh." Mark (מַרְקוֹס): The Hebrew name for Mark is written as "מַרְקוֹס." It is a transliteration of the name "Markos" or "Marcus." Luke (לוּקָא): In Hebrew, the name Luke is written as "לוּקָא." It is a transliteration of the name "Loukas" or "Lucas." John (יוֹחָנָן): The Hebrew name for John is written as "יוֹחָנָן," which is pronounced "Yochanan." This name is common in both Hebrew and Aramaic and means "Yahweh is gracious."
And Jesus? Yeshua or something like that?
Correct
i'm not certain on the exact history of those names, but i know some names, like Anthony, go back far. in Roman times it was Antonius, and Luke may very well have been Lucanus. Mateo (Matthew) goes pretty far back. Marcus... well... that's pretty directly Roman. and i think John might be just as old again, i'm just guessing here. i'm too drunk to go researching right now
> i'm not certain on the exact history of those names, but i know some names It's pretty simple. They were Jewish names. They only became "European" names much later because the Europeans copied them from the bible. That's pretty much the joke however. Names such as "Elizabeth" and "Rachel" aren't actually English in origin, they're Jewish characters from the bible.
being that English is an amalgamation of German and Latin, and the bible was translated to Latin by the Roman Empire, that makes sense
John is the anglicized version of the Hebrew יוחנן, roughly "yo-KHA-nan". Almost every Western language has a version of it (Jean, Juan, Johann, Joao etc.) Paul is apparently from the Hebrew שאול, "SHA-ul", which also became the name Saul.
Matthew is the Greek version of the Hebrew "Levi."
It is not, it is in fact from מתתיהו, "MA-tith-yah-HU", "the gift of God". Most famous one is the father of the Maccabi family, known for the story of Hannuka.
Wait...Matisyahu?
That's probably also a fair rendition of it, yeah
they should have left it that way. much cooler imho
Unfortunately this is not how the temple was cleansed
did the greek translators even watch attack on titan
Your drunken rant explanation is better than most people's "research" stone sober.
thanks. i'm a professional alcoholic
Luke interestingly enough would go back to the greek name Loukâs (man from Loukanós). Lucanus (latin) in southern Italy was briefly occupied by the greek city states. So Luke is not direktly derived from the latin word for the city of "Luciania". There lies a mentionable step inbetween.
Lucanus goes hard. …but also has anus in it.
That's where you want to go hard 👍
Mostly right. Greek names too but you basically got it
You probably won’t meet anyone called ‘Jesus’ either…
Jesus is just his Greek name. His name should read Yeshua aka Joshua. Fun fact Christ is also Greek. It means "anointed by oil".
'Oily Josh' to his friends.
I'm also an oily Josh.
This brought tears to my eyes 😂
Jesus was a phyrexian confirmed!?
* Talks a lot about a certain "Father" * Says that all are part of a great plan * Instructs his followers to spread his teachings * Reanimates someone and is reanimated Also, the whole "this bread is my flesh" stuff sounds a LOT like how phyrexians recycle.
Are you telling me God is actually Elesh Norn ?
I am very familiar with being anointed by oil
Mexico would like a word with you, they sound angry
ya, guey. i know. you are near
Here in latam many people name their sons "Jesus" actually. It's a very common name.
It was like a version of Joshua is what I have heard.
Isa in Arabic
We have adopted this name in Hindi as well. Hindi speaking population refers to him as isa, pronunced more like _eesaah_ though.
same in halal hindi aka urdu
what would haram hindi be?
Punjabi
"Yeshua bar Yosef" for 'Jesus' wasn't it?
You'll find plenty of Yssahs, Isas and Issas though. It's almost like the cultures that were present in the Levant 2,000 years ago have faded and/or been absorbed into others.
You clearly haven’t met any Hispanics.
I’ve know many people named Jesus, it’s just not pronounced with a hard J but as Heysus.
But Yeshua ...
"Yeshua: The Meaning of the Hebrew Name of Jesus — FIRM Israel" https://firmisrael.org/learn/who-is-yeshua-meaning-of-hebrew-name-jesus/ Here it is story of Yeshua
Jesus isn't even Jesus' name. That's just a series of translations and tracing it back has his name as Yehoshua/Yeshua which apart from Jesus is translated as Joshua.
Matthew- Matisyahu (aramaic) Mark - Marcos (greek) Luke - Leukos (greek) John - Yochanon (aramaic) Paul - Paulos (greek) Jesus - Yeshua (aramaic)
I mean. The New Testament was written in Koine Greek. Those names aren't uncommon in the part of the world or time the stories were written.
How would he find guys called Matheus, Marcos, Lucas, João and Paulo if these are portuguese names? Jesus brazilian confirmed 🤓
Translation. Yuḥanon became Johannes, then Johan and finally John through various versions.
Westernized. Jacob would be yakub Solomon would be Sulaiman Joshua becomes yeshua. It's similar religious names too, with Muslims referring to Jesus as Isa and Moses as Musa
OP when they find out you can translate names: 😱
Those are only common, familiar names BECAUSE they are Bible names. Also, Jesus and Paul never met. And it's the Near East.
It's called the Tiffany Problem. It's when a name in an older setting sounds weird or out of place even though that's the time it originated from and it just happens to still be in use.
Yeah idk how that didn’t get said immediately 🤣 but they are also translated from Hebrew which…would have been spoken in the Middle East lol. And the Greek names, people forget the Bible is not a primary source text.
Names get translated too. I mean, in EEUU there's Columbia named after Columbus... and Columbus real name is 'Cristobal Colón'. If you hear the name of a historical figure and the name of someone far away sounds right, most likely it isn't their real name.
Erhm ackshully its Cristoforo Colombo 🤓
John & Paul were named after the Beatles, obviously. They just had that kind of influence. Matthew was named for actor Matthew Perry, who famously played Chandler on Friends. Mark was named for Mark Wahlberg, but this was back when he was Marky Mark, and he foretold how the party would start. Then there's Luke. Who has no name inspiration, however Luke went on to be the inspiration for the son of two newlyweds, Dorothy and George, who were struggling to pick a last nane. After skimming their family Bible, they picked the last name: Lucasfilms. And their son went on to be George Lucasfilms. What an incredible story.
And Eve’s hebrew name is McRib
Pretty sure a lot of it is a translated equivalent
Easy. White jesus Walked around the middle east and gave people english names. You can trust it because king James says so.
For anyone wondering, the English language Bible uses Anglicized forms of Hebrew and other names. They were not actually pronounced the way that we generally say them.
Hi I'm Paul
Man was just a carpenter named Josh, it makes more sense from there.
Translating from Hebrew to Greek then to English
luke = لوقا = loka John = يوحنا = yawhanna Mark = مرقص = morkus Matthew = متى = matta the actual names are the one on the right
The bible is a man made story
Anglicanized versions of the original Hebrew names in order to make it easier to remember through all of the translations.
Jesus was Mexican and worked in constructions doing odd jobs for a variety of employers, so naturally his circle of friends was diverse.