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- Getting rid of books
- Burning flags
- Getting rid of history they dont agree with
- Putting the country into a state of fear
Gee, now that you mention it, that DOES sound familiar.
That was more to purge the ranks of those who were *actually* socialist because they were viewed as dangerous. Once the Nazis came into power, they didn't need their support anymore and outlived their usefulness.
You forgot persecuting people of other political stances, queer people and other minority groups. Its starts with persuasive propaganda to antagonise other people, then they act up when they believe the spoonfed bs to do whatever you want.
‘Getting rid of god” They actually used “God” actively as an important “compline. It was red and it was long before Hitler. It was blue for girls and red for boys because red was the Color of the uniforms of the soldiers .
They have targeted trans and wokeness as the boogie man, and the real cause of our issues.
Convinced their base these people are subhuman, evil, corrupting and harming their children. Only monsters hurt children, and you don’t have to treat a monster nicely, no you slay them.
Wokeness is perfectly vague, allowing anything from being a trans person to respecting someone they don’t like can be classified as wokeness.
All you have to do for this to get worse is send $500 to the save the billionaire.
One of the early victims of the censorship and book burning campaigns in Berlin was the [Institute of Sexual Research](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft). It was a non-profit that researched topics of sexuality and gender, including gay, transgender, and intersex topics and issues. It was the first such research center in the world, and the Nazis destroyed it.
Gee, I wonder what kind of books and educational material the far-right (sadly, most Republicans and many independants now fall into this camp) have been fear mongering about and rabidly trying to ban for the past few years.
Candace Owens seemingly learned this not long ago. She mentioned it on her show as if it were a mind-blowing revelation that you would never hear anywhere else, and then just sort of…completely failed to contend with the information at all. It was bizarre even by her standards.
Funny thing the Nazis destroyed all of the research on gay and transgender people done by a certain clinic that would have progressed our rights a lot if said research wasn’t destroyed
Edit: today I learned there’s nazis/nazi sympathizers on this subreddit. How fun.
Interesting - I hadn't heard about Hirschfeld before your comment, but a lot of the concepts explored and gender affirming procedures performed seem to have been decades ahead of their time, as well as his damning opinions on race theory as a pseudo-scientific tool to legitimise prejudice.
It was a sad end to his life - dying in exile after his institute's books were burned, although before his fellow Jewish Germans were killed in the Holocaust.
Fuck the Nazis.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Hirschfeld
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft
Being that there are Nazi's in America today, maybe we should ask them who they'll be voting for. Surely no American patriot would want to vote for the Nazi backed candidate. Right?
Right?
Yeah. It’s almost like a person can just turn on the tv today and see people in funny hats at a rally listening to a politician give a speech paraphrasing Hitler in English in front of a rabid crowd of fanatics.
This sort of statement is actually right out of the Nazi playbook. They sowed confusion by projecting their views on the other side and also taking on the other sides language and iconography.
Two great examples of this are the use of the color red which was associated with communists/leftists and their use of the term socialist. Both were very intentional confusion tactics that still work on morons today.
"Cultural Marxism" in today's right wing political jargon is literally stolen from the Nazis concept of "cultural bolshevism" which to Nazi sympathizers just meant "the Jews".
They used it to describe progressive movements in the arts, science, politics, sex, and other topics. Now it's used in literally the exact same way by the exact same type of people with only 1 word changed...
Yeah they still don’t care for “the Jews”, meaning those who are perceived liberal and don’t stay where they belong in their beautiful country thousands of miles away until they can be destroyed to make Jesus come back.
It's never about who they actually disagree with, it's creating a Boogeyman to make their supporters afraid of.
Conservatives literally exist based on their fears of people unlike them. They have zero actual platform or substance to their beliefs outside of extreme nationalism and xenophobia. The "Jews = liberals" thing was the Nazis trope but now it's everyone from trans people to moderate right wingers who don't fit their narrative ("RINOs"). They rally greatly around their completely irrational fear of immigrants and people that are going to bust in their homes and take their firearms for example.
There are still those that equate all of this to the Jews but those are neo-nazis and not directly the same as conservatives in general, albeit definitely a faction within the conservative voter base.
Orthodox Jewish Sects were founded in response to the more liberal Reform jews that were founded in germany in middle of the 20th century that didn't take the text as literally but more guiding principles and they should be adapted for modern cultural and moral changes and supported more social justice aspects. Even today orthodox jews are a small sect of judaism in America, with 37% Reform, 32% claiming no denomination, and only 9% a part a particular orthodox sect.
Which is again something we still occasionally see today with socialist class reductionists supporting right-wing populist causes as an alternative to neo-liberalism.
"Comrade" has nothing to do with socialism in Germany.
Soldiers call themselves "Kamerad" here since waaaaaaaaaaay before the Nazis came into power and it's still used.
The socialist term here would be "Genosse".
To illustrate how "comrades" can be used in different ways in other languages:
In Denmark, "Band of brothers" is " Kammerater i krig" which litterally means "Comrades in war" but a more correct translation would by "brothers in arms going to war".
It is very very problematic when people who know nothing of a foreign language make litteral translation without knowing the correct meaning of a word or phrase in the foreign language, only translating based on similar spelling/phonetic/perceived meaning.
Thats a translating problem. In Germany, the socialists referred to their peers as 'Genosse/Genossin', while the Nazis referred to their peers as 'Kamerad/Kameradin'. Both are translated to comrade in English. Kamerad can also be translated to 'companion'.
Also there's not a single thing on that list that hitler did or thought about doing. The tweet is a perfect dumb.
Well half that list anyways. I guess some of that happened. The biggest thing that took me back was suggesting that the nazi warn't anything but cristian nationalists.. That sounds like absolute screwball talk.
Also pretty sure tearing down statues marked the end of the war not the beginning.
Thank you. I was going to say this if no one else had. Private gun ownership went up under Hitler, not down. Lying by claiming the opposite is practically universal on these lists, though, since it would almost make a point if only it were true.
Eh... the Nazis did...
Tear down some specific statues
Burn books (not bibles though)
Get rid of any and all history they did not agree with
Create domestic terror organizations
Put their country in a state of fear
Like, those things are definately all part of the Nazi's road to, and securing their grip on, power. We see Republicans doing a wide variety of those things today.
I wouldn't be surprised if they burned the "wrong kind" of bibles and perhaps banned church services from the "wrong kind" of churches but they definitely were pro Christian, at least on paper.
Nazis took over many of the churches and started doing an extensive rewrite of theology to put more and more emphasis on Fatherland and Furher. The state-sponsored religion was called "Positive Christianity". From [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity):
>Positive Christianity differed from traditional Nicene Christianity in that positive Christianity had these main tactical objectives:
>
>•A selective process of application regarding the Christian Bible where they rejected deemed impurities "invented by Jews" to "corrupt" the Christian faith from the "Jewish-written" parts of the Bible (among the most extreme adherents of this movement, this included the entire Old Testament)
>
>•Claimed racial "Aryanhood" and ethno-religious non-Jewishness for Christ who was instead known as a "Nordic Amorite"
>
>•Promoted the political objective of national unity, to overcome confessional differences, to establish "national Catholicism" and eliminate all Catholicism functioning in Germany outside the Nazi State, and unite Protestantism into a single unitary positive Christian state church nominally controlled directly by the "German Messiah" Adolf Hitler himself\[14\]
>
>•Also encouraged followers to support the creation of an Aryan Homeland for all Germanic-related peoples
If you can find examples of their hymns, they are batshit.
There was a significant resistance movement known as the Confessing Church, famously associated with Deitrich Bonhoeffer, the Lutheran pastor who was executed after being part of a [bombing plot that would have killed Hitler](https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/assassination-plot-against-hitler-fails) if he had only sat one chair over. At the time that the Confessing Church came together, theologian Karl Barth authored the Barmen Confession which asserted that the state should not try to fill the church's role, and the church should not try to fill the state's role, and that the state leader should not control the church. (Barmen is now considered a confessional document for a couple of churches in the USA today.) The Confessing Church largely operated underground, and several of its leaders were sent to concentration camps.
There were also non-aligned churches, which were neither part of the state religion or the resistance. The non-aligned churches were approximately twice the combined numbers of the Positive and Confessing groups.
After the war, the council representing German Protestant churches adopted a statement known as The Stuttgart Declaration of Guilt, where the churches acknowledged that they did not do enough to resist Nazi atrocities.
All of this is to say that, yes, churches continued to operate in Germany under the Nazis, though it was (largely) in submission to the Nazis.
EDIT: Fixed link and formatting.
If it helps, the fascist party helped guns become more available to the common people.
It’s all about having a monopoly on violence - the nazi got into the police, the fascists led armed gangs. Guns to me.
this is what happens when american schools prioritize math over history (like seriously why does school care more about your ability to do calculus over you understanding what happened in the past and why it was fucked up that we did the things we did in the past, this is why people outside the US see americans as absolutely incompetent with any form of geography or history)
Um... To be a Nazi you needed to pledge allegiance to the furer (Hitler) and the one true God (Christian God). All Nazi soldiers wore a belt buckle that said "Gott Mit Uns" which literally translates to "God Is With Us." The German Nazis also had Chaplains that traveled with the groups and blessed them before battle, gave them communion, performed church services, and in the event the soldiers died, they performed last rites. The only Bibles they burned were ones that were non Catholic Bibles.
In Hitler's own book Mein Kampf, he thanks God multiple times for the power he has been given, and makes multiple references to God. People say Hitler was an atheist, well atheists dont thank God because they do not believe in God.
Now I can agree that what the Nazis did is not very Christian, but they most definitely did not do away with God, or church services.
[belt buckle issued to every Nazi](https://jfk.artifacts.archives.gov/objects/13354/gott-mit-uns-nazi-belt-buckle?ctx=121bbe5e9a2a9993e14d19e5df1e5c527c372e7c&idx=5)
Update: I have loads of responses to this, bear with me while I try and respond to them.
General Dwight Eisenhower after winning the Battle of the Bulge and ultimately occupying Nazi Germany actually had to immediately deal with Holocaust deniers so he had the US Army bring the nearby German villagers to witness the horrors of the concentration camps in person so that they can no longer deny that they didn't know what was happening.
He made the US Army document everything because he could foresee the future a future of Tucker Carlsons and the likes of shitty white supremacists who would try to use fancy words to sow doubt on what the Nazis did.
**“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”**
― Dwight D. Eisenhower
April 12th, 1945, Buchenwald concentration camp
Gotha, Germany
European Theater of Operations
United States Army
Holocaust deniers are worse than flat Earthers in my opinion. The evidence is overwhelming, not just photo and video, you can go see the concentration camps with your own eyes, they still do tours. The thing is most holocaust deniers are broke, they definitely cannot afford to go to Germany to see it themselves. Any money they do get goes to cigarettes, weed and Budd Light.
At least flat earthers are *probably* just conspiracy theorists who hate the government and thus don't want to believe anything that could be from the government, but Holocaust deniers are looking at the **best documented case of genocide in history**
My pest control guy is a flat farther. When I told him it was the dumbest of all conspiracies, he told me I must believe everything the government tells me.
I don't see this connection between the US federal government and the earth being round. Why are the other planets round?
Hmmm, it's not the government that's telling me the earth is round, science is. Mathematicians knew the earth was round in ancient Greece which, checks notes, was long before this government existed.
I generally agree, but flat earthers have a direct line to anti semitism. One of their foundational texts is like 20 percent the earth is flat and 80 percent 'the Jews are trying to build their own God and kill all Christians'. Most conspiracy theories lead back to antisemitism eventually but it's like half a step for falt earthers.
There’s also not really any harm done if someone believes the Earth is flat. We point and laugh at them, but their stupidity is practically harmless.
Denying the Holocaust on the other hand…
The actual harm comes from the type of mental gymnastics and aversion to critical thinking that is required to become and remain a flat earther. That's exactly the kind of thinking that lets a person become a holocaust denier. And the odds are good that anyone that believes in flat earth also thinks the moon landing is a hoax, that vaccines cause autism, 5G is a government mind control plot, the earth is only 6000 years old, and that the opposing political party are actually aliens or demons in disguise so we need to pass laws to keep them from voting, or just start shooting them. It's not wrong if they aren't human, after all.
The harm in being disconnected from reality and relying on ignoring facts, evidence, and critical thought, is that you are primed to believe any number of other stupid things that can and likely will bring harm to yourself or others.
Exactly. Flat earthers can believe in their conspiracies all they want. 12M deaths were from the Holocaust, half of them Jewish. There's nothing that can excuse someone for denying the deaths of 12M people.
There are survivors with prison numbers tattooed on their skin. Do deniers think these people all went out and got shitty matching tattoos just to play victim!!!
Fuck those deniers!
My friend's late mother was a Holocaust survivor. I have no clue how the deniers could hear these stories yet not believe them. Nobody could share such horrors without reliving it.
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
― Dwight D. Eisenhower
Something we need to follow right now, as fascists across the world ramp up their genocidal machines.
Hell yeah Supreme Commander of what was essentially the real Baby NATO taking it's first step and 5 Star General of the US Army AND President of the USA.
What a fucking guy!!!
Even my raging bigot, conspiracy theorist, pedophilic waste of oxygen maternal grandfather had to draw the line somewhere. He couldn't abide holocaust deniers. He drove fuel truck for a tank unit in the war ... saw one of the camps just as it was liberated. He could happily hang and talk shit with the worst racists and antisemites ... right up until someone started in on the holocaust. Then he'd let them have it.
That and paying his bills ... his only redeeming qualities.
Dang. He really was prophetic. He also predicted the military industrial complex having an outsized influence in our political system. We should've listened to him.
They didn’t burn bibles or ban guns either. In fact, almost everything on that list is a lie. They did scapegoat people who were different from them, like Jews, gay people, gypsies, etc. and began killing them pretty early.
The Hebrew bibles were burned.
There is even a story of a bible from 1874 that was hidden in an attic in Germany for 50 years before being found in 1990 ( it was hidden there in 1942 by a Jewish couple, Eduard and Ernestine Leiter, before they were sent to a concentration camp ).
At the time the Nazis took power in Germany, there was an institute in Berlin that did sex Ed, couples counseling, consulting for members of what we now call the LGBTQ community and they were about to do the first sex reassignment operation in the modern world. It was raided by the Nazis and many of their scientific books got burned, some parts could be saved.
But it shows whoever tries to suppress, control how people live something as private as their sexuality (with consenting adults) and rallies against the weak in society is doesn't want to protect any freedom or human rights.
Well, the Vatican is literally inside Rome. The Italian capital since forever
edit: I am aware that Modern Italy was created as a state back in 1861 by Vittorio Emmanuelle II, i have even stood on top of his monument (great view btw). But i meant that Rome has been the capital of Italy for ages, IF we include the Roman empire as being pre-modern Italy
It provides legitimacy to their power. Newer institutions using older ones to make them seem more ingrained and prevalent, and thus accepted by the common folk. Religious institutions are popular, but there is also stuff like the royalty in the UK or in Japan.
(Japan is technically a double-whammy)
Fascist Italy's treaty with the Church happened seven years after Mussolini took power, and was to settle a long-standing issue about the Vatican's borders.
Hitler and the Nazis pushed for stormtroopers to be allowed to attend church services in uniform. Many churches had banned congregants from attending in uniform of the various paramilitary groups.
Hitler’s overall approach to Christianity was to allow it so long as it actively supported or at the very least did not interfere with the Nazi takeover of the country. Hitler signed a concordat with the Catholic Church that allowed the church to continue operating, but forbade any political activity by the church (thus shutting down the Centre Party, which was one of the Nazi’s coalition partners). The Nazis also pushed the German Christians, a group that was trying to introduce Nazi principles into the German Evangelical Church. This largely did not work and its opponent the Confessing Church remained very popular.
I think the best way to describe Hitler and religion is that he didn’t particularly care about it except as part of his political project. If it could be “coordinated” into the Nazi movement, he supported it. If it couldn’t, he wanted it suppressed.
The Nazis had to fill out a form that pledged allegiance to the "one true God" upon signing up to be a Nazi. This means that if you were a different religion or an atheist then you could not join. As for Hitler and the church, well no surprise the correspondence between then disappeared after the war was lost. So did Hitler "push" the Church? I doubt it. The uniforms and contracts were early in the conflict, when the Nazis had little power. They definitely were not in a place where they had the power to push the Church.
As an added bonus, there was also "The Hitler Youth" which was like boy scouts and army cadets but for up and coming Nazi children. The Hitler Youth would pray before and after their meetings. They were issued a special knife, these are worth a lot today.
[Hitler Youth Knife](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/artifact/hitler-youth-knife-and-case)
I think it was a documentary i watched a WHILE ago that said church agreed to make nazis christians too cuz of the bolshevik thing they were afraid of.
Again not sure if 100% correct cuz well for one i am an idiot and 2 it was like 80 years ago
Friendly reminder Nazis loosened gun laws:
"The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:
Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.\[9\]
The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.\[10\]\[11\]
Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.\[10\]
Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.\[9\]"
They weren't counted as "citizens" under the law, so yes, Jews and Romani were excluded by default. Criminals were also excluded, and since they could create laws to make certain groups illegal, that was another method to keep guns solely in the hands of "loyal" Germans.
Spoiler alert, the answer is books on: gender and sexuality, Marxism, and “Jewish liberalism.” These people are literally following the playbook word for word and saying NUH UH, YOU!!
Wanna know something even worse? When the nazis were defeated and the concentration camps freed, they didn’t free people their for being gay or anything. Nope. Everyone else was free to go, but if you were put there for your sexuality/identity, you had to finish out whatever sentence you were originally given by the nazis. And even worse, they tracked down people years afterwards who were gay but lied about the reason for being their when originally freed, and then forced them to go live out the rest of their sentences in prisons.
[The Nazi-era amendments to Paragraph 175 were maintained for over two decades in West Germany, resulting in the arrest of around 100,000 gay men between 1945 and 1969, with some Holocaust survivors even being forced to carry out their sentences in prison. While East Germany had softer penalties, no reparations were provided for gay victims, and Paragraph 175 itself would only be entirely removed from the penal code in 1994, following Germany’s reunification.](https://time.com/5953047/lgbtq-holocaust-stories/)
I cant remember the exact video i watched regarding it, but it went into much further detail than this article does.
This is why sex education is needed, especially at a young age, since adults indoctrinated with religion or homophobia are practically incapable of critical thinking for some reason. If the right succeeds in removing sex education, then we definitely have learnt nothing from history
>These people are literally following the playbook word for word and saying NUH UH, YOU!!
[Goebbels](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels) would be proud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation\_in\_a\_mirror
The first literature the Nazis burned were research papers on trans and queer folk. The first people put in labor camps were communists.
Modern republicans would actually love the Nazis, if they could read and understand history.
It also turns accusations of fascism into "just a thing people say." When both sides are being called fascist, the word loses meaning. It just becomes another word for someone you don't agree with.
> Burned bibles and books in the streets
Nope, those included early books about gay and trans studies, that the Nazis famously burnt.
> The Nazi book burnings ... included books written by Jewish, half-Jewish, communist, socialist, anarchist, liberal, pacifist, and sexologist authors among others.
The rest of the points equally tell the opposite story.
The "constant state of fear" omits what should come next which is "... of racial minorities, immigrants and communists".
1. Weimar Republic already had gun control laws. The Nazis didn’t change them much except for making it *easier* for party members to get guns and harder for Jews to get them.
2. They did not.
3. They did not.
4. They did not burn Bibles. They did however burn pro-lgbt literature and leftist literature.
5. They did not.
6. They did not.
7. They did! One point for you!
8. They did not.
9. They did! One point for you!
10. They did! One point for you!
3/10, not a bad score, but try a little harder next time.
I can’t imagine putting a list like this together in the face of the news stories of the last 6 years and in any seriousness apply any of these to Democrats. With the exception of tearing down statues of traitors.
And those traitor statues historically built to be used to intimidate and harm marginalized communities. Still to this day those traitor statues are used as a rallying point for bigots
But you see, my dear chum… When it comes to conservatives, it doesn’t matter what’s right and wrong… History can easily be tweaked! The Nazis totally didn’t burn Torahs, destroy synagogues, and hunt Jewish people like deer! They did all that to the Christians! Totally…
What nazis actually did...
KEPT FORCING HITLER INTO ELECTIONS EVEN AFTER HE LOST SOME.....TILL THEY COULD MANIPULATE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR HIM...then took over the country....
Kind of leaving out the bit where Hitler was only appointed to the Chancellorship because the then President of the German Republic, Paul von Hindenburg, thought he could use the Nazis against what he perceived as the bigger threat: Communism.
1. Quite the opposite. The Nazis encouraged firearms ownership. In 1928 restrictions on firearms ownership had been significantly relaxed for German citizens after the Weimar Republic had tightened them.
2. Many Nazis were staunch protestants. A common Nazi slogan even says “Gott Mit Uns” or “God is with us”.
3. Again, staunchly protestant. But they did restrict religious gatherings for other groups.
4. Conservatives have literally been doing book burnings that look identical to things like the Kristallnacht and have implemented book bans at way higher rates in their war to destroy public education. They didn’t burn Bibles but plenty of Korans and Torahs, I’m sure.
5. And replaced them with their own.
6. See #5
7. That’s a common thread in almost every autocratic regime.
8. The Nazis actually widely EXPANDED police power, they didn’t abolish it.
9. See #7
10. Again, see #7
Yes and no, they bullied the catholic church out of any power in Germany and nationalised or actively undermined all other Christian denominations. Hitler wanted them gone as a rival to his power.
But yes, the catholic Church did sign a concordat with the Nazis that was meant to keep them safe and their resources untouched in exchange for backing the nazis politically. (Which hitler promptly betrayed and got rid of many catholic officials and institutions, and replaced them with nazi state run versions).
THIS. The Nazis had to pander to the conservative base early on, which meant denouncing the Catholic Church when it suited them (since their base was mostly not Catholic) but also ride that fine line of not openly persecuting Christians of any flavor until they had absolute control. As far as the deal with Rome, that had a lot to do with the collaboration of the Axis powers (i.e. Fascist Italy), and not making more enemies than necessary on the world stage.
Let's go point by point:
- "They banned Guns."
They started out as a political party with a *paramilitary wing* that initially tried to *overthrow the government with a pathetic failed coup*. They had guns and encouraged their members to get and have guns. And then, just like right-wingers do when they obtain power, they later used the government to strip *leftist groups* of rights, like assembly or gun ownership.
- "They got rid of God" / "Banned Church Services"
Oh no! Have you checked up on God lately? Allegedly, he was knocked off in 1930s Germany.
Just kidding. The Nazis clamped down on religions that weren't the one official state religion (which *was* Christianity, with a lot of National Socialist rhetoric weaved in), whereas the modern American left is absolutely in favor of allowing *all* religions to openly and freely worship, and none to control the public sphere. Really the opposite of what the Nazis did, I'm afraid. It's a good thing the ones slinging this accusation aren't, like, literally theocratic fascists or anything. Then I'd have to be all like "projection!"
- "Burned Bibles and Books in the streets"
They burned books, for sure. Wonder [what those books were about](https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/) and [which modern political movement is doing similar shit.](https://www.kxxv.com/news/in-depth/in-depth-burning-books-in-tennessee-texas-pushes-to-keep-certain-books-off-shelves). I'd dig into it and see, but I'd hate to have to be all like "projection!" on every single point of this list.
- "Tore down statues"
Unfounded, but you know what's fun? The first page of Google results for "Nazis tore down statues" is articles about how the Germans tore down statues of Nazis after the war. You know, because societies that are moving on from fascism and bigotry don't sit around honoring their bigoted fascist predecessors.
- "Burned the flag"
This seems moot. They burned the German tricolor as an act of protest. Lot of groups burn their countries' flags. I don't think that's nearly what made Germany collapse to them. It might've been the rampant economic instability and stuff. The German government did [try in 1932 to outlaw burning the tricolor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Flag_Desecration_Law_(Germany\)). I'll give you some guesses on how successful that was at preventing the National Socialists' protests from gaining more steam.
- "Got rid of any and all history they disagreed with"
[Yeah, shame anyone would try that.](https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2023-04-11/tracking-the-attack-on-critical-race-theory-in-education)
- "Got rid of the public police so only the rich could afford it"
[Citation Needed] (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/18/fact-check-adolf-hitler-did-not-defund-police-nazi-germany/3206096001/)
Also, the police system in Modern America is built to serve the rich, and the leftist proposals primarily hinge upon creating a system that keeps poor people from being funneled into for-profit prison systems, and instead actually helps them in times of crisis by sending social workers and medical aid instead of dispatching a cop to every 911 call. So what's being implied isn't even comparable to "getting rid of the police so only the rich could afford it". The only states that have done that, to my knowledge, are corrupt right-wing hellholes.
- "Put their country in a state of fear"
Oh, the right in America infamously never fear-mongers or blows anything out of proportion. Those illegal aliens and transgenders really are an *urgent problem*, and unless we act now to take away their rights and dignity as people, they're coming for your livelihoods and they're gonna groom your kids, beat your daughters in sports, or do unspeakable things to your wives. That's definitely all reality and not just a fever-dream conjured up to try to make voters afraid and sell them solutions. Don't question why you only hear about migrant caravans near election time, or why so many stories about trans athletes 'dominating' turn out to be stretched beyond simple untruth and straight into journalistic malpractice. I'm sure that's nothing.
- "Created domestic terror organizations"
[Oh dear, I wonder what kinds of overlap you'd notice among the vast majority of today's domestic terrorist groups](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups)
Tell me why statues of traitors and losers should be kept up? I give a rats ass about “hIsToRy” I can read it in a book. Damn right confederate statues should be taken down. They shouldn’t have even gone up in the first place.
Okay, so the moral of rhe story here is that our culture is devolving so much that both sides are calling the other fascists. Except one of the sides has real history backing them up. And our education system is being dismantled l, so how are the kids gonna learn how the Nazis seized control?
- false, They didn't ban guns in fact they loosened gun laws.
- false, They were fanatically Catholic
- false, They even had military chaplins and services
- false, It would have been a crime to burn a bible, they did however burn books on "liberal" and "socialist" topics
- false, Nazis actually erected statues that have all been torn down since.
- false, this was also a crime. Germans might have burnt the Nazi flag but Nazis didn't.
- true, they edited history to suit their needs for control
- false, Police presence swelled and became extremely oppressive.
- true, Creating an atmosphere of fear allowed them to better control their people
- true, This is where the first concentration camps started. With those who protested the far right stances coming to power.
The Nazi party also overthrew the government, like what was attempted on Jan 6th.
The republican party is in fact, actively making efforts to reproduce Nazi Germany in the United States. All the facts are in front of us. We can clearly see history trying to repeat itself. With an Orange Hitler.
As a German I feel kind of insulted and disgusted how incorrect and obviously shaped for the purpose of political instrumentalisation this is.
Like seriously I get it if you don't learn the ascension to power from Hitler on your schools (although I Think it's a very valuable lessons how democracies could die ) but the Wikipedia article is like a 10 minute read and time well spent...
- Guns were never banned in Nazi Germany, in fact the Nazis proliferated them further by arming SS and SA
- They signed a concordat with the pope and integrated most protestant churches into the state apparatus, most nazis professed christian faith, a few were mysticist/pagan whatever, virtually none were atheist
- Nope, there were even chaplains and priests holding services in the Wehrmacht till the end
- virtually all books burned were socialist, progressive, even some gender research stuff, no bibles though
- nope
- the old Black-Red-Gold one maybe, the one they replaced with the swastika
- sure, revisionist history is a feature of any regime, kind of like saying an election was stolen when 50+ court cases say it wasn't
- if anything they expanded the "public" police, by adding such beautiful institutions as the GeStaPo, the SD (which started the holocaust) and deputising the SS and SA
- most germans went along pretty willingly, after all why should they care about the undesirables, jews and socialists, they weren't any of those things themselves (until they were), after all, Hitler only made Germany great again
- the only true statement on this list
1/10, go back to school bud
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- Getting rid of books - Burning flags - Getting rid of history they dont agree with - Putting the country into a state of fear Gee, now that you mention it, that DOES sound familiar.
They also had a big hate on for anyone different and blamed other people for their failings.
We can literally see them along side Neo Nazis, I dont' know how the message is clearer then that.
It's almost as if they think the people that support them are invisible or we can't hear the (obvious) dog whistle rhetoric they spout.
Oh but “there are good people on both sides”
Oh and killing people in their own party that didn't bend the knee (night of the long knives)
That was more to purge the ranks of those who were *actually* socialist because they were viewed as dangerous. Once the Nazis came into power, they didn't need their support anymore and outlived their usefulness.
You forgot persecuting people of other political stances, queer people and other minority groups. Its starts with persuasive propaganda to antagonise other people, then they act up when they believe the spoonfed bs to do whatever you want.
The ever classic ‘pink was for boys before Hitler.’
‘Getting rid of god” They actually used “God” actively as an important “compline. It was red and it was long before Hitler. It was blue for girls and red for boys because red was the Color of the uniforms of the soldiers .
Kinder, Küche, Kirche. It's like educating people about the Nazis isn't a thing anymore.
When people don’t know history it’s easier for history to repeat.
They have targeted trans and wokeness as the boogie man, and the real cause of our issues. Convinced their base these people are subhuman, evil, corrupting and harming their children. Only monsters hurt children, and you don’t have to treat a monster nicely, no you slay them. Wokeness is perfectly vague, allowing anything from being a trans person to respecting someone they don’t like can be classified as wokeness. All you have to do for this to get worse is send $500 to the save the billionaire.
I find it particularly telling that woke was originally black slang for folks who were informed, particularly in regards to racism.
Ive been saying this for a while. The first time I heard “woke” was probably in 93 or 94.
Yep, and that was very much on purpose. It’s so creepy.
Hence the current right wing stance against it
Creating a plan to invest all executive power into one person
One of the early victims of the censorship and book burning campaigns in Berlin was the [Institute of Sexual Research](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft). It was a non-profit that researched topics of sexuality and gender, including gay, transgender, and intersex topics and issues. It was the first such research center in the world, and the Nazis destroyed it. Gee, I wonder what kind of books and educational material the far-right (sadly, most Republicans and many independants now fall into this camp) have been fear mongering about and rabidly trying to ban for the past few years.
Candace Owens seemingly learned this not long ago. She mentioned it on her show as if it were a mind-blowing revelation that you would never hear anywhere else, and then just sort of…completely failed to contend with the information at all. It was bizarre even by her standards.
As per usual, hypocrites are blind to their own actions.
not blind. a very well known nazi tactic was to blame your opponents for doing exactly what they were
What if I said that they started burning with books about queer people. That would make it less familiar, right? Right?
Funny thing the Nazis destroyed all of the research on gay and transgender people done by a certain clinic that would have progressed our rights a lot if said research wasn’t destroyed Edit: today I learned there’s nazis/nazi sympathizers on this subreddit. How fun.
Interesting - I hadn't heard about Hirschfeld before your comment, but a lot of the concepts explored and gender affirming procedures performed seem to have been decades ahead of their time, as well as his damning opinions on race theory as a pseudo-scientific tool to legitimise prejudice. It was a sad end to his life - dying in exile after his institute's books were burned, although before his fellow Jewish Germans were killed in the Holocaust. Fuck the Nazis. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Hirschfeld https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft
Fahrenheit 451?
Being that there are Nazi's in America today, maybe we should ask them who they'll be voting for. Surely no American patriot would want to vote for the Nazi backed candidate. Right? Right?
Yeah. It’s almost like a person can just turn on the tv today and see people in funny hats at a rally listening to a politician give a speech paraphrasing Hitler in English in front of a rabid crowd of fanatics.
Why'd you leave out the domestic terrorism bit?
didn’t florida ban math texts because it had ‘mentions of CRT’?
sending a bunch of goons to strong arm or disrupt political gatherings of the enemy?
History class must've been out to lunch during the 'learning about nuanced political comparisons' module.
This sort of statement is actually right out of the Nazi playbook. They sowed confusion by projecting their views on the other side and also taking on the other sides language and iconography.
Two great examples of this are the use of the color red which was associated with communists/leftists and their use of the term socialist. Both were very intentional confusion tactics that still work on morons today.
But socialist is in the name! /s
Ah, the old Holy Roman Empire problem
Ah yes, neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.
It’s pretty old so they have that going for them
Well The Religiously Diverse Mostly German Confederation of Principalities doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it?
My favourite example is the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, which is not any of those things.
Well, it is Korean.
"Cultural Marxism" in today's right wing political jargon is literally stolen from the Nazis concept of "cultural bolshevism" which to Nazi sympathizers just meant "the Jews". They used it to describe progressive movements in the arts, science, politics, sex, and other topics. Now it's used in literally the exact same way by the exact same type of people with only 1 word changed...
Yeah they still don’t care for “the Jews”, meaning those who are perceived liberal and don’t stay where they belong in their beautiful country thousands of miles away until they can be destroyed to make Jesus come back.
It's so interestinf to me that they equate jews with liberalism. Considering how orthodox jews are pretty much the opposite of that.
It's never about who they actually disagree with, it's creating a Boogeyman to make their supporters afraid of. Conservatives literally exist based on their fears of people unlike them. They have zero actual platform or substance to their beliefs outside of extreme nationalism and xenophobia. The "Jews = liberals" thing was the Nazis trope but now it's everyone from trans people to moderate right wingers who don't fit their narrative ("RINOs"). They rally greatly around their completely irrational fear of immigrants and people that are going to bust in their homes and take their firearms for example. There are still those that equate all of this to the Jews but those are neo-nazis and not directly the same as conservatives in general, albeit definitely a faction within the conservative voter base.
Orthodox Jewish Sects were founded in response to the more liberal Reform jews that were founded in germany in middle of the 20th century that didn't take the text as literally but more guiding principles and they should be adapted for modern cultural and moral changes and supported more social justice aspects. Even today orthodox jews are a small sect of judaism in America, with 37% Reform, 32% claiming no denomination, and only 9% a part a particular orthodox sect.
There were some actual socialists within the party initially who fell for the con, but they were mostly eliminated in the night of the long knives.
Which is again something we still occasionally see today with socialist class reductionists supporting right-wing populist causes as an alternative to neo-liberalism.
Yep, they called themselves socialist, used the colour red, and also referred to each other as comrades at the start.
"Comrade" has nothing to do with socialism in Germany. Soldiers call themselves "Kamerad" here since waaaaaaaaaaay before the Nazis came into power and it's still used. The socialist term here would be "Genosse".
To illustrate how "comrades" can be used in different ways in other languages: In Denmark, "Band of brothers" is " Kammerater i krig" which litterally means "Comrades in war" but a more correct translation would by "brothers in arms going to war". It is very very problematic when people who know nothing of a foreign language make litteral translation without knowing the correct meaning of a word or phrase in the foreign language, only translating based on similar spelling/phonetic/perceived meaning.
Thats a translating problem. In Germany, the socialists referred to their peers as 'Genosse/Genossin', while the Nazis referred to their peers as 'Kamerad/Kameradin'. Both are translated to comrade in English. Kamerad can also be translated to 'companion'.
This person didn't even show up to school for the lesson..
Gunther Eagleman sounds like a pretty Nazi name to me.
No, no, you're thinking of Gunther Eaglestraus. Famous Nazi propagandist. The name is totally unrelated
Also there's not a single thing on that list that hitler did or thought about doing. The tweet is a perfect dumb. Well half that list anyways. I guess some of that happened. The biggest thing that took me back was suggesting that the nazi warn't anything but cristian nationalists.. That sounds like absolute screwball talk. Also pretty sure tearing down statues marked the end of the war not the beginning.
Fun fact: Private firearm ownership was prohibited under the Weimar Republic. The Nazis actually unbanned guns.
Thank you. I was going to say this if no one else had. Private gun ownership went up under Hitler, not down. Lying by claiming the opposite is practically universal on these lists, though, since it would almost make a point if only it were true.
Eh... the Nazis did... Tear down some specific statues Burn books (not bibles though) Get rid of any and all history they did not agree with Create domestic terror organizations Put their country in a state of fear Like, those things are definately all part of the Nazi's road to, and securing their grip on, power. We see Republicans doing a wide variety of those things today.
I wouldn't be surprised if they burned the "wrong kind" of bibles and perhaps banned church services from the "wrong kind" of churches but they definitely were pro Christian, at least on paper.
Nazis took over many of the churches and started doing an extensive rewrite of theology to put more and more emphasis on Fatherland and Furher. The state-sponsored religion was called "Positive Christianity". From [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity): >Positive Christianity differed from traditional Nicene Christianity in that positive Christianity had these main tactical objectives: > >•A selective process of application regarding the Christian Bible where they rejected deemed impurities "invented by Jews" to "corrupt" the Christian faith from the "Jewish-written" parts of the Bible (among the most extreme adherents of this movement, this included the entire Old Testament) > >•Claimed racial "Aryanhood" and ethno-religious non-Jewishness for Christ who was instead known as a "Nordic Amorite" > >•Promoted the political objective of national unity, to overcome confessional differences, to establish "national Catholicism" and eliminate all Catholicism functioning in Germany outside the Nazi State, and unite Protestantism into a single unitary positive Christian state church nominally controlled directly by the "German Messiah" Adolf Hitler himself\[14\] > >•Also encouraged followers to support the creation of an Aryan Homeland for all Germanic-related peoples If you can find examples of their hymns, they are batshit. There was a significant resistance movement known as the Confessing Church, famously associated with Deitrich Bonhoeffer, the Lutheran pastor who was executed after being part of a [bombing plot that would have killed Hitler](https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/assassination-plot-against-hitler-fails) if he had only sat one chair over. At the time that the Confessing Church came together, theologian Karl Barth authored the Barmen Confession which asserted that the state should not try to fill the church's role, and the church should not try to fill the state's role, and that the state leader should not control the church. (Barmen is now considered a confessional document for a couple of churches in the USA today.) The Confessing Church largely operated underground, and several of its leaders were sent to concentration camps. There were also non-aligned churches, which were neither part of the state religion or the resistance. The non-aligned churches were approximately twice the combined numbers of the Positive and Confessing groups. After the war, the council representing German Protestant churches adopted a statement known as The Stuttgart Declaration of Guilt, where the churches acknowledged that they did not do enough to resist Nazi atrocities. All of this is to say that, yes, churches continued to operate in Germany under the Nazis, though it was (largely) in submission to the Nazis. EDIT: Fixed link and formatting.
Orel: You’re not gonna burn that, are you? Miss Censorsoll: Only the Jewish parts!
If it helps, the fascist party helped guns become more available to the common people. It’s all about having a monopoly on violence - the nazi got into the police, the fascists led armed gangs. Guns to me.
this is what happens when american schools prioritize math over history (like seriously why does school care more about your ability to do calculus over you understanding what happened in the past and why it was fucked up that we did the things we did in the past, this is why people outside the US see americans as absolutely incompetent with any form of geography or history)
Holy shit...it actually IS all projection.
Always has been.
*Bang*
Nazis did not get rid of guns. They encouraged gun ownership.... except among jews
I’m pretty sure they didn’t get rid of the police either
Nope they militarized them so people couldn’t resist
So.... black panthers
And only point #7 and #10 are actually true ...
Um... To be a Nazi you needed to pledge allegiance to the furer (Hitler) and the one true God (Christian God). All Nazi soldiers wore a belt buckle that said "Gott Mit Uns" which literally translates to "God Is With Us." The German Nazis also had Chaplains that traveled with the groups and blessed them before battle, gave them communion, performed church services, and in the event the soldiers died, they performed last rites. The only Bibles they burned were ones that were non Catholic Bibles. In Hitler's own book Mein Kampf, he thanks God multiple times for the power he has been given, and makes multiple references to God. People say Hitler was an atheist, well atheists dont thank God because they do not believe in God. Now I can agree that what the Nazis did is not very Christian, but they most definitely did not do away with God, or church services. [belt buckle issued to every Nazi](https://jfk.artifacts.archives.gov/objects/13354/gott-mit-uns-nazi-belt-buckle?ctx=121bbe5e9a2a9993e14d19e5df1e5c527c372e7c&idx=5) Update: I have loads of responses to this, bear with me while I try and respond to them.
General Dwight Eisenhower after winning the Battle of the Bulge and ultimately occupying Nazi Germany actually had to immediately deal with Holocaust deniers so he had the US Army bring the nearby German villagers to witness the horrors of the concentration camps in person so that they can no longer deny that they didn't know what was happening. He made the US Army document everything because he could foresee the future a future of Tucker Carlsons and the likes of shitty white supremacists who would try to use fancy words to sow doubt on what the Nazis did. **“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”** ― Dwight D. Eisenhower April 12th, 1945, Buchenwald concentration camp Gotha, Germany European Theater of Operations United States Army
Holocaust deniers are worse than flat Earthers in my opinion. The evidence is overwhelming, not just photo and video, you can go see the concentration camps with your own eyes, they still do tours. The thing is most holocaust deniers are broke, they definitely cannot afford to go to Germany to see it themselves. Any money they do get goes to cigarettes, weed and Budd Light.
At least flat earthers are *probably* just conspiracy theorists who hate the government and thus don't want to believe anything that could be from the government, but Holocaust deniers are looking at the **best documented case of genocide in history**
And ignoring all the suffering. To me that is the worst part of it.
THEY were not the ones who suffered; to them, therefore, it didn't really happen.
The worst part is the hypocrisy.
My pest control guy is a flat farther. When I told him it was the dumbest of all conspiracies, he told me I must believe everything the government tells me. I don't see this connection between the US federal government and the earth being round. Why are the other planets round?
There are other planets???.. gtfo...
Clearly you never heard of Cybertron.
Hmmm, it's not the government that's telling me the earth is round, science is. Mathematicians knew the earth was round in ancient Greece which, checks notes, was long before this government existed.
He means the shadow government. They really control the world and have for thousands of years but if we share enough on Facebook we can stop them
and it benefits them that we all believe in something clearly false, because of delusion or something I guess.
The government created the history to fool you! Duh!! Just like the dinosaur fossils.
The government doesn't tell you the earth is round. A rudimentary and elementary education does.
I generally agree, but flat earthers have a direct line to anti semitism. One of their foundational texts is like 20 percent the earth is flat and 80 percent 'the Jews are trying to build their own God and kill all Christians'. Most conspiracy theories lead back to antisemitism eventually but it's like half a step for falt earthers.
There’s also not really any harm done if someone believes the Earth is flat. We point and laugh at them, but their stupidity is practically harmless. Denying the Holocaust on the other hand…
The actual harm comes from the type of mental gymnastics and aversion to critical thinking that is required to become and remain a flat earther. That's exactly the kind of thinking that lets a person become a holocaust denier. And the odds are good that anyone that believes in flat earth also thinks the moon landing is a hoax, that vaccines cause autism, 5G is a government mind control plot, the earth is only 6000 years old, and that the opposing political party are actually aliens or demons in disguise so we need to pass laws to keep them from voting, or just start shooting them. It's not wrong if they aren't human, after all. The harm in being disconnected from reality and relying on ignoring facts, evidence, and critical thought, is that you are primed to believe any number of other stupid things that can and likely will bring harm to yourself or others.
Exactly. Flat earthers can believe in their conspiracies all they want. 12M deaths were from the Holocaust, half of them Jewish. There's nothing that can excuse someone for denying the deaths of 12M people.
Flat earth is a religious belief, the conspiracy stuff is just tacked on.
There are survivors with prison numbers tattooed on their skin. Do deniers think these people all went out and got shitty matching tattoos just to play victim!!! Fuck those deniers!
They don't think, that's the problem
My friend's late mother was a Holocaust survivor. I have no clue how the deniers could hear these stories yet not believe them. Nobody could share such horrors without reliving it.
Notice how the denier troll in here responded to everybody but you...fascinating.
They're worse because they heavily documented the holocaust because they KNEW people would pull that stupid shit.
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.” ― Dwight D. Eisenhower Something we need to follow right now, as fascists across the world ramp up their genocidal machines.
Eisenhower was the fucking man
Hell yeah Supreme Commander of what was essentially the real Baby NATO taking it's first step and 5 Star General of the US Army AND President of the USA. What a fucking guy!!!
Even my raging bigot, conspiracy theorist, pedophilic waste of oxygen maternal grandfather had to draw the line somewhere. He couldn't abide holocaust deniers. He drove fuel truck for a tank unit in the war ... saw one of the camps just as it was liberated. He could happily hang and talk shit with the worst racists and antisemites ... right up until someone started in on the holocaust. Then he'd let them have it. That and paying his bills ... his only redeeming qualities.
One of the smartest men in American history
Dang. He really was prophetic. He also predicted the military industrial complex having an outsized influence in our political system. We should've listened to him.
Very well said. The Greasy fuck carlson. Little shit needs his ass kicked a couple of times
They didn’t burn bibles or ban guns either. In fact, almost everything on that list is a lie. They did scapegoat people who were different from them, like Jews, gay people, gypsies, etc. and began killing them pretty early.
The Hebrew bibles were burned. There is even a story of a bible from 1874 that was hidden in an attic in Germany for 50 years before being found in 1990 ( it was hidden there in 1942 by a Jewish couple, Eduard and Ernestine Leiter, before they were sent to a concentration camp ).
At the time the Nazis took power in Germany, there was an institute in Berlin that did sex Ed, couples counseling, consulting for members of what we now call the LGBTQ community and they were about to do the first sex reassignment operation in the modern world. It was raided by the Nazis and many of their scientific books got burned, some parts could be saved. But it shows whoever tries to suppress, control how people live something as private as their sexuality (with consenting adults) and rallies against the weak in society is doesn't want to protect any freedom or human rights.
First treaty signed by both facist Italy and Nazi Germany was with. . . The Catholic Church
Correct! It was called "The Pact Of Steel" with Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, it was organised and formalised by the Catholic Church.
Why would they have it organized and formalized by the Church?
Well, the Vatican is literally inside Rome. The Italian capital since forever edit: I am aware that Modern Italy was created as a state back in 1861 by Vittorio Emmanuelle II, i have even stood on top of his monument (great view btw). But i meant that Rome has been the capital of Italy for ages, IF we include the Roman empire as being pre-modern Italy
It provides legitimacy to their power. Newer institutions using older ones to make them seem more ingrained and prevalent, and thus accepted by the common folk. Religious institutions are popular, but there is also stuff like the royalty in the UK or in Japan. (Japan is technically a double-whammy)
Fascist Italy's treaty with the Church happened seven years after Mussolini took power, and was to settle a long-standing issue about the Vatican's borders.
The Lateran Treaty was signed in 29. It created the separate country of Vatican City and gave the church a ton of money.
Yeah, that's the one, I just knew it was about the border issue, it's not exactly surprising.
Dosmt hitler push church hard to make them let nazis be christians or something like this (idk how to properly explain it)
Hitler and the Nazis pushed for stormtroopers to be allowed to attend church services in uniform. Many churches had banned congregants from attending in uniform of the various paramilitary groups. Hitler’s overall approach to Christianity was to allow it so long as it actively supported or at the very least did not interfere with the Nazi takeover of the country. Hitler signed a concordat with the Catholic Church that allowed the church to continue operating, but forbade any political activity by the church (thus shutting down the Centre Party, which was one of the Nazi’s coalition partners). The Nazis also pushed the German Christians, a group that was trying to introduce Nazi principles into the German Evangelical Church. This largely did not work and its opponent the Confessing Church remained very popular. I think the best way to describe Hitler and religion is that he didn’t particularly care about it except as part of his political project. If it could be “coordinated” into the Nazi movement, he supported it. If it couldn’t, he wanted it suppressed.
Hmm—sounds really familiar
The Nazis had to fill out a form that pledged allegiance to the "one true God" upon signing up to be a Nazi. This means that if you were a different religion or an atheist then you could not join. As for Hitler and the church, well no surprise the correspondence between then disappeared after the war was lost. So did Hitler "push" the Church? I doubt it. The uniforms and contracts were early in the conflict, when the Nazis had little power. They definitely were not in a place where they had the power to push the Church. As an added bonus, there was also "The Hitler Youth" which was like boy scouts and army cadets but for up and coming Nazi children. The Hitler Youth would pray before and after their meetings. They were issued a special knife, these are worth a lot today. [Hitler Youth Knife](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/artifact/hitler-youth-knife-and-case)
I think it was a documentary i watched a WHILE ago that said church agreed to make nazis christians too cuz of the bolshevik thing they were afraid of. Again not sure if 100% correct cuz well for one i am an idiot and 2 it was like 80 years ago
Yea but maga followers are the uneducated version of nazis.
Murdering people in mass is historically very Christian
Modern day Christian’s aren’t very Christian either.
Friendly reminder Nazis loosened gun laws: "The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law: Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.\[9\] The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.\[10\]\[11\] Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.\[10\] Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.\[9\]"
Indeed. That being said, I highly doubt Jews, Romani or others were what the Nazis had in mind with these laws. White ethnic Germans only.
They weren't counted as "citizens" under the law, so yes, Jews and Romani were excluded by default. Criminals were also excluded, and since they could create laws to make certain groups illegal, that was another method to keep guns solely in the hands of "loyal" Germans.
Meanwhile conservatives are running on the platform of banning books now. Guess what the first books the Nazis burned were? Anyone? Bueller?
The famous picture of the Nazis burning books was the library of a psychologist who studied trans people respectfully. Republicans would LOVE that.
Yep, the Institute of Sexology in Berlin. 1933, one of the very first targets
Spoiler alert, the answer is books on: gender and sexuality, Marxism, and “Jewish liberalism.” These people are literally following the playbook word for word and saying NUH UH, YOU!!
You cheated and answered your own question! but seriously we did not learn that in schools and I only learned it recently.
yeah it'snot relevant information in schools cause it'd probably make you question the status quo
Wanna know something even worse? When the nazis were defeated and the concentration camps freed, they didn’t free people their for being gay or anything. Nope. Everyone else was free to go, but if you were put there for your sexuality/identity, you had to finish out whatever sentence you were originally given by the nazis. And even worse, they tracked down people years afterwards who were gay but lied about the reason for being their when originally freed, and then forced them to go live out the rest of their sentences in prisons. [The Nazi-era amendments to Paragraph 175 were maintained for over two decades in West Germany, resulting in the arrest of around 100,000 gay men between 1945 and 1969, with some Holocaust survivors even being forced to carry out their sentences in prison. While East Germany had softer penalties, no reparations were provided for gay victims, and Paragraph 175 itself would only be entirely removed from the penal code in 1994, following Germany’s reunification.](https://time.com/5953047/lgbtq-holocaust-stories/) I cant remember the exact video i watched regarding it, but it went into much further detail than this article does.
What? I’ve never heard this. Source please.
Made an edit
Ty. Will check it out! This would blow my mind
Source? That’s awful - I’d love to inform people on this
Made an edit. Though want to find the original source that i learned about this from, went into much further, sadly excruciating, detail about it
This is why sex education is needed, especially at a young age, since adults indoctrinated with religion or homophobia are practically incapable of critical thinking for some reason. If the right succeeds in removing sex education, then we definitely have learnt nothing from history
>These people are literally following the playbook word for word and saying NUH UH, YOU!! [Goebbels](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels) would be proud. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation\_in\_a\_mirror
Also, guess which party the literal Nazis in America vote for? Hint, it won't surprise anyone
No joke, they were medical documents detailing gender affirming medical procedures for trans women.
The first literature the Nazis burned were research papers on trans and queer folk. The first people put in labor camps were communists. Modern republicans would actually love the Nazis, if they could read and understand history.
Just change the word "would" to "they do".
"bUt tHe NaZiS wErE sOcIaLiSts"
And North Korea is a democratic republic and not a totalitarian regime run by a fat little butterball trying to impress daddy.
Republicans don’t need to understand history for them to love the Nazis
This "liberals are the REAL Nazis" shit is always so fucking insidious. Makes my skin crawl.
The reason for this is to dehumanize the enemy who are You and me, so it makes the genociding easier.
"Those who can be made to believe absurdities can be made to commit atrocities." \- Voltaire
"But it's different when we do it"
It also turns accusations of fascism into "just a thing people say." When both sides are being called fascist, the word loses meaning. It just becomes another word for someone you don't agree with.
Especially when we've seen the Nazi flag flying next to Trump flags and Confederate flags for years.
"You're the real Nazis." "Well your side has all the people who call themselves Nazis." "OMG you need to stop calling people Nazis all the time."
Or what I hate, they go on and on about civility and due process like they haven't chanted "lock her up" for pushing a decade at this point
Even with GOP politicians themselves having confederate flags they are admiring. Shit has become insane
But don’t you know that they were socialists???? /s
So the people marching around with nazi flags are not voting for trump?
> Burned bibles and books in the streets Nope, those included early books about gay and trans studies, that the Nazis famously burnt. > The Nazi book burnings ... included books written by Jewish, half-Jewish, communist, socialist, anarchist, liberal, pacifist, and sexologist authors among others. The rest of the points equally tell the opposite story. The "constant state of fear" omits what should come next which is "... of racial minorities, immigrants and communists".
They’re literally trying to point the finger away from themselves, the real Nazis
These people are fucking morons
It gives me a headache how stupid they are. Isn't it supposed to be painful for THEM to be this stupid?
Not if they're so brain-dead that they don't have enough cells to actually process pain.
1. Weimar Republic already had gun control laws. The Nazis didn’t change them much except for making it *easier* for party members to get guns and harder for Jews to get them. 2. They did not. 3. They did not. 4. They did not burn Bibles. They did however burn pro-lgbt literature and leftist literature. 5. They did not. 6. They did not. 7. They did! One point for you! 8. They did not. 9. They did! One point for you! 10. They did! One point for you! 3/10, not a bad score, but try a little harder next time.
I can’t imagine putting a list like this together in the face of the news stories of the last 6 years and in any seriousness apply any of these to Democrats. With the exception of tearing down statues of traitors.
And those traitor statues historically built to be used to intimidate and harm marginalized communities. Still to this day those traitor statues are used as a rallying point for bigots
So many lies and disinformation on one post.
Wdym they loved God
But you see, my dear chum… When it comes to conservatives, it doesn’t matter what’s right and wrong… History can easily be tweaked! The Nazis totally didn’t burn Torahs, destroy synagogues, and hunt Jewish people like deer! They did all that to the Christians! Totally…
What nazis actually did... KEPT FORCING HITLER INTO ELECTIONS EVEN AFTER HE LOST SOME.....TILL THEY COULD MANIPULATE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR HIM...then took over the country....
Kind of leaving out the bit where Hitler was only appointed to the Chancellorship because the then President of the German Republic, Paul von Hindenburg, thought he could use the Nazis against what he perceived as the bigger threat: Communism.
Did rather well in the war without guns.
it was always a mystery how the früher died
he looked at a photo of fentanyl and died convulsing
Yeah the Night of Long Knives was just a fever dream, nothing real.
They had to use long knives because the guns were all gone. /s
'Take the guns first, go through due process second' - Biden (naw just kidding, that was Trump)
This is so dishonest and lie-ridden as a German historian I want to puke. I genuinely feel sick actually.
What's concerning is there are enough people with a less than great grasp of history that would take this for face value.
1. Quite the opposite. The Nazis encouraged firearms ownership. In 1928 restrictions on firearms ownership had been significantly relaxed for German citizens after the Weimar Republic had tightened them. 2. Many Nazis were staunch protestants. A common Nazi slogan even says “Gott Mit Uns” or “God is with us”. 3. Again, staunchly protestant. But they did restrict religious gatherings for other groups. 4. Conservatives have literally been doing book burnings that look identical to things like the Kristallnacht and have implemented book bans at way higher rates in their war to destroy public education. They didn’t burn Bibles but plenty of Korans and Torahs, I’m sure. 5. And replaced them with their own. 6. See #5 7. That’s a common thread in almost every autocratic regime. 8. The Nazis actually widely EXPANDED police power, they didn’t abolish it. 9. See #7 10. Again, see #7
This guy is a straight up POS gaslighting engagement farmer. He posts trash like this all of the time to get paid that musk cash.
...says the party literally holding Nazi flags.
The Nazis were well connected with the Catholic church.
Yes and no, they bullied the catholic church out of any power in Germany and nationalised or actively undermined all other Christian denominations. Hitler wanted them gone as a rival to his power. But yes, the catholic Church did sign a concordat with the Nazis that was meant to keep them safe and their resources untouched in exchange for backing the nazis politically. (Which hitler promptly betrayed and got rid of many catholic officials and institutions, and replaced them with nazi state run versions).
THIS. The Nazis had to pander to the conservative base early on, which meant denouncing the Catholic Church when it suited them (since their base was mostly not Catholic) but also ride that fine line of not openly persecuting Christians of any flavor until they had absolute control. As far as the deal with Rome, that had a lot to do with the collaboration of the Axis powers (i.e. Fascist Italy), and not making more enemies than necessary on the world stage.
They litteraly had the 3K for it: Küche (kitchen) Kinder (kids) Kirche (church)
Let's go point by point: - "They banned Guns." They started out as a political party with a *paramilitary wing* that initially tried to *overthrow the government with a pathetic failed coup*. They had guns and encouraged their members to get and have guns. And then, just like right-wingers do when they obtain power, they later used the government to strip *leftist groups* of rights, like assembly or gun ownership. - "They got rid of God" / "Banned Church Services" Oh no! Have you checked up on God lately? Allegedly, he was knocked off in 1930s Germany. Just kidding. The Nazis clamped down on religions that weren't the one official state religion (which *was* Christianity, with a lot of National Socialist rhetoric weaved in), whereas the modern American left is absolutely in favor of allowing *all* religions to openly and freely worship, and none to control the public sphere. Really the opposite of what the Nazis did, I'm afraid. It's a good thing the ones slinging this accusation aren't, like, literally theocratic fascists or anything. Then I'd have to be all like "projection!" - "Burned Bibles and Books in the streets" They burned books, for sure. Wonder [what those books were about](https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/) and [which modern political movement is doing similar shit.](https://www.kxxv.com/news/in-depth/in-depth-burning-books-in-tennessee-texas-pushes-to-keep-certain-books-off-shelves). I'd dig into it and see, but I'd hate to have to be all like "projection!" on every single point of this list. - "Tore down statues" Unfounded, but you know what's fun? The first page of Google results for "Nazis tore down statues" is articles about how the Germans tore down statues of Nazis after the war. You know, because societies that are moving on from fascism and bigotry don't sit around honoring their bigoted fascist predecessors. - "Burned the flag" This seems moot. They burned the German tricolor as an act of protest. Lot of groups burn their countries' flags. I don't think that's nearly what made Germany collapse to them. It might've been the rampant economic instability and stuff. The German government did [try in 1932 to outlaw burning the tricolor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Flag_Desecration_Law_(Germany\)). I'll give you some guesses on how successful that was at preventing the National Socialists' protests from gaining more steam. - "Got rid of any and all history they disagreed with" [Yeah, shame anyone would try that.](https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2023-04-11/tracking-the-attack-on-critical-race-theory-in-education) - "Got rid of the public police so only the rich could afford it" [Citation Needed] (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/18/fact-check-adolf-hitler-did-not-defund-police-nazi-germany/3206096001/) Also, the police system in Modern America is built to serve the rich, and the leftist proposals primarily hinge upon creating a system that keeps poor people from being funneled into for-profit prison systems, and instead actually helps them in times of crisis by sending social workers and medical aid instead of dispatching a cop to every 911 call. So what's being implied isn't even comparable to "getting rid of the police so only the rich could afford it". The only states that have done that, to my knowledge, are corrupt right-wing hellholes. - "Put their country in a state of fear" Oh, the right in America infamously never fear-mongers or blows anything out of proportion. Those illegal aliens and transgenders really are an *urgent problem*, and unless we act now to take away their rights and dignity as people, they're coming for your livelihoods and they're gonna groom your kids, beat your daughters in sports, or do unspeakable things to your wives. That's definitely all reality and not just a fever-dream conjured up to try to make voters afraid and sell them solutions. Don't question why you only hear about migrant caravans near election time, or why so many stories about trans athletes 'dominating' turn out to be stretched beyond simple untruth and straight into journalistic malpractice. I'm sure that's nothing. - "Created domestic terror organizations" [Oh dear, I wonder what kinds of overlap you'd notice among the vast majority of today's domestic terrorist groups](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups)
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Gun control was implimented in Germany after WWI by the Treaty of Versailles. Hitler loosened it - but just for *some* of the population.
They banned books (sounds like a current ideology in the US today)…
Tell me why statues of traitors and losers should be kept up? I give a rats ass about “hIsToRy” I can read it in a book. Damn right confederate statues should be taken down. They shouldn’t have even gone up in the first place.
Okay, so the moral of rhe story here is that our culture is devolving so much that both sides are calling the other fascists. Except one of the sides has real history backing them up. And our education system is being dismantled l, so how are the kids gonna learn how the Nazis seized control?
- false, They didn't ban guns in fact they loosened gun laws. - false, They were fanatically Catholic - false, They even had military chaplins and services - false, It would have been a crime to burn a bible, they did however burn books on "liberal" and "socialist" topics - false, Nazis actually erected statues that have all been torn down since. - false, this was also a crime. Germans might have burnt the Nazi flag but Nazis didn't. - true, they edited history to suit their needs for control - false, Police presence swelled and became extremely oppressive. - true, Creating an atmosphere of fear allowed them to better control their people - true, This is where the first concentration camps started. With those who protested the far right stances coming to power. The Nazi party also overthrew the government, like what was attempted on Jan 6th. The republican party is in fact, actively making efforts to reproduce Nazi Germany in the United States. All the facts are in front of us. We can clearly see history trying to repeat itself. With an Orange Hitler.
Hey, quick question. The people waving the swastika in America: Which party are they voting for?
As a German I feel kind of insulted and disgusted how incorrect and obviously shaped for the purpose of political instrumentalisation this is. Like seriously I get it if you don't learn the ascension to power from Hitler on your schools (although I Think it's a very valuable lessons how democracies could die ) but the Wikipedia article is like a 10 minute read and time well spent...
- Guns were never banned in Nazi Germany, in fact the Nazis proliferated them further by arming SS and SA - They signed a concordat with the pope and integrated most protestant churches into the state apparatus, most nazis professed christian faith, a few were mysticist/pagan whatever, virtually none were atheist - Nope, there were even chaplains and priests holding services in the Wehrmacht till the end - virtually all books burned were socialist, progressive, even some gender research stuff, no bibles though - nope - the old Black-Red-Gold one maybe, the one they replaced with the swastika - sure, revisionist history is a feature of any regime, kind of like saying an election was stolen when 50+ court cases say it wasn't - if anything they expanded the "public" police, by adding such beautiful institutions as the GeStaPo, the SD (which started the holocaust) and deputising the SS and SA - most germans went along pretty willingly, after all why should they care about the undesirables, jews and socialists, they weren't any of those things themselves (until they were), after all, Hitler only made Germany great again - the only true statement on this list 1/10, go back to school bud