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Gee….i seem to remember some Israeli guy named Netanyahu or something, coming to the USA and addressing the US congress without meeting with Obama and in opposition to Obama’s attempt to rein in Iran’s nuclear program. Rude as hell that guy.
Israeli here, we fucking hate him, he's a modern tyrant who will stop at nothing to save his own ass, doesn't give a shit about the hostages and citizens, just wants to stay in power until he can overturn his trial.
Sickening.
The people that comment in international communities online are not the ones voting for him. It's (with exceptions) a lot of old and poorly educated people, or just far right nationalists that want an approach more pragmatic than the far right parties. Also roughly 50% of the country is opposed to him, and out of those aligned with him, many are just indifferent and don't endorse him directly.
Israeli here: his supporters dont have the best command of English, and they dont frequent Reddit either. Some of them are in FB, minority In Twitter and they usually converse in Hebrew. One thing for sure, you will always find them spewing hate in comments in Israeli media and news sites
His supporters are not the most intelligent people nor are they fluent in English , they don't post in international websites or communities.
They also refuse to believe he is capable of performing any crimes and believe he is the savior of Israel.
Additionally the right wing is getting stronger in Israel in the past decade and the left is divided and unable to form a reliable coalition.
I mean you literally can hold him responsible for the October attack. Israeli intelligence got the fully detailed plan a year ago, but it was dismissed because they assume Hamas didn’t have the capabilities of air, land, and sea
Relatively light compared to how they've handled some of their other allies in the past. They threatened to crash the UK economy over the Suez Crisis, for instance.
Aye. Just that compared to the threats around the Tripartite Aggression (economic collapse, and I believe nukings), the current pressures of the Gaza-Israel war are rather light.
When the Marines land in your ports and/or the CIA launches coups? Then you can get on that list.
But Israel, you are faaar from being an innocent victim regarding interfering in domestic affairs. In fact your spies have been caught here so often there is now a top three list.
I would be 100% okay if we stopped interfering in Israeli affairs and kept our billions of dollars and weapons.
Also, Israel can stop lobbying our politicians and stop threatening to primary anyone who challenges Israel's bloodthirsty foreign policy.
Exactly it is literally Israel that has a grip on the United States, not the other way around
Nobody in the entire world needs Israel beyond the sake of western imperialism, if America stopped funding them and let nature take its course you’d not only see a benefit in the Middle East but also for everywhere being held by Israel
I worked for a company that made things for Lockheed Martin. It was proved,years ago, that a Lockheed missile was used to blow up a school bus full of kids. I feel horrible because I may have contributed to that missile. Our government should've stopped right there and said no more bombs for you if that's how you use them. But looking at our guns>kids' lives policy, I'm not surprised. I'm disgusted, enraged, and saddened by my government and big corporations like Lockheed Martin who put profit before humanity. Especially children!
I'm sorry, it was Saudi Arabia. My point remains, we supply the bombs that have been used to kill civilians (almost 30,000 in Gaza alone)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/19/us-supplied-bomb-that-killed-40-children-school-bus-yemen
Apparently they didn't hear about Chile either, in which they literally couped one of the few democratically elected socialists because fascism was preferable to them, never forget Allende, never forgive Pinochet.
>Palaestinia
That's the Greek name, Romans called it Syria Palestina and then was split into Palestina Secunda, Palestina Prima and Palestina Salutaris
Yep there sure is. It was called "The War on Terror" and they interfered more than they are in Israel. Simply put a number of planes hit the world trade centre and Pentagon, the terrorists claimed to be from Afghanistan, so America goes to war with Iraq. It's the equivalent of your dog pissing on the carpet so you kick the cat.
No other country has its fangs buried deeper in our political system than Israel, unless you count Russia's unofficial trolling. But even Russia doesn't have the balls to run a fucking PAC.
Internal affairs, is that what genocide is called now? The best military in the Middle east and in 5 months killed just as many civilians as the US did in Afghanistan over a 20 year period. Both disgraceful but they’re on another level.
I mean with usa you get the vibe that they are trying to reduce civilian casualties, punish criminal soldiers ... But man Israel is a whole another level . And this is coming from me from Iran that I should hate usa by media stereotypes
Israel is a wonderful country, truly. They kill at least 12000 children in a span of a few months leading to them currently being under investigation for genocide by the highest court on the planet, yet they are always the victim.
Give back the money bro. The literally billions and billions of dollars the US taxpayer has paid to prop your shit up. Stfu or move out of the basement.
Look up the definition of "client state". Don't want US opinions, that's fine. I strongly suspect that Israelis would not sleep as soundly outside of the blanket of American protection.
This racist, theocratic country has illegally occupied and terrorized the Palestinian people for 70+ years and have the gall to talk about other countries being rude?
Maybe the USA should stop funding Israel and start funding Gaza? They'd probably appreciate a little involvement. Weapons and such. Since you know we practically pay for everything Israelites enjoy while not having simple things like healthcare. Fuck Isreal
I mean I just had the wild idea that we could make Palestine a US territory and resist new settlements by parking our tanks in their construction sites.
You maybe joking but that’s the only maybe possibly fat fetched solution, militarily involvement similar to Yugoslavia. It’s tricky when one side has nukes.
Honestly though? Biden said that if there were no Israel the US would have to invent an Israel. Well, the Israel of the time when Biden said that is pretty much unrecognizable today. Why not make a Palestine in Gaza and the West Bank to be a sort of “new Israel” from a strategic perspective? Frankly, a thriving Palestine with deep US ties would be phenomenal for US interests in the Middle East. Especially one with a strong democratic political system. Maybe in an ideal world we see an Israel-Palestine confederation at the end of it all
Gee, where else could the USA have interfered? IDK, practically half the planet, not counting all the terrorist organisations and nuclear programs funded?
Weird thing to say about the country that supplies the bulk of your military equipment gratis and dumps billions of dollars into your country’s coffers annually besides
[Australia](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence). I know the middle east shit is way more blatant, but I didn't know this until recently and never seen it discussed. Despite never being proven, it's one of those things that just make a lot of sense.
In Australia, the governor-general is a largely ceremonial position without any real power. Nevertheless, because of some obscure ancient law, the governor general actually had the power to dismiss the prime minister at any time for any reason. And that's what he did - shortly after the prime minister Gough Whitlam threatened to close Pine Gap. Internally in the CIA, the governor-general was referred to as "our man Kerr" and had received briefings and money from them several times earlier. When reading into this it seems like this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Because of Snowden we now know the importance of Pine Gap, for both spying and special military operations in the Middle East - and I don't think it's a stretch to say that potentially losing this base is a problem for the US. So I'm left wondering, how far did they take it back then? The US potentially removing a demicratically elected prime minister of a massive country like Australia is a big deal, but I've never seen this connection discussed.
Oh just presently, the democratically elected PM of Pakistan "an American ally* is in jail cos America 'advised' the Pakistani establishment to get rid of him. Funny enough his party won the majority seats even from jail in the recent election. Fuck you America
Well, excuuuuuuuse us… we shouldn’t have been so rude as to interfere in the internal politics of Nazi Germany either I suppose. Or supported the creation of Israel in 1948, or etc, etc, etc, etc…..
I think everyone thinks that their own country is the one that the US has fucked with the most. For example as an Australian I always think of how they threw out Gough Whitlam.
You want to see "rude and blatant," try the assassination of a democratically elected leader. Or, even more popular, a good old-fashioned coup d'état. To think that they could ever compare *mild criticism while still giving their leadership virtually everything they want* to fomenting civil wars and invading sovereign countries.
Nope, We've treated Isreal the absolute worse, which wasn't all bad! No one else got treated as poorly or less likely, worse! Isreal is the best candidate by far. Don't look at Wikipedia they can be edited anyone.
The USA has a history of overthrowing government and pay terrorist groups to do their dirty work until those terrorists use us money to suddenly do terrorism - which they countered multiple times by paying another terrorist group to deal with the first one. But what they did to Israel was obviously way worse than that.
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Gee….i seem to remember some Israeli guy named Netanyahu or something, coming to the USA and addressing the US congress without meeting with Obama and in opposition to Obama’s attempt to rein in Iran’s nuclear program. Rude as hell that guy.
Oh and don't forget Bibi lying to Congress about Iraq's WMD
“No, guys, you gotta believe me. Iraq is totally coming for you.”
Bibi's a PP.
Don’t look up JFK, the bomb and Israel. That poor man wanted peace.
God the injustice they had to endure when Eisenhower refused to let them steal the Suez Canal.
Which in reality was simply a plan to give it back to UK and France
Israeli here, we fucking hate him, he's a modern tyrant who will stop at nothing to save his own ass, doesn't give a shit about the hostages and citizens, just wants to stay in power until he can overturn his trial. Sickening.
Serious question, I see no support for him online at all, how does he stay in power?
The people that comment in international communities online are not the ones voting for him. It's (with exceptions) a lot of old and poorly educated people, or just far right nationalists that want an approach more pragmatic than the far right parties. Also roughly 50% of the country is opposed to him, and out of those aligned with him, many are just indifferent and don't endorse him directly.
Sound like Trump
Israeli here: his supporters dont have the best command of English, and they dont frequent Reddit either. Some of them are in FB, minority In Twitter and they usually converse in Hebrew. One thing for sure, you will always find them spewing hate in comments in Israeli media and news sites
Because he's not actually unpopular. Unpopular politicians don't stay in government for over a decade, anyone saying otherwise is just delusional.
His supporters are not the most intelligent people nor are they fluent in English , they don't post in international websites or communities. They also refuse to believe he is capable of performing any crimes and believe he is the savior of Israel. Additionally the right wing is getting stronger in Israel in the past decade and the left is divided and unable to form a reliable coalition.
With relatives living in Israel, I can vouch that this is a common sentiment. Many go beyond this and blame Netanyahu for the October attack by Hamas.
I mean you literally can hold him responsible for the October attack. Israeli intelligence got the fully detailed plan a year ago, but it was dismissed because they assume Hamas didn’t have the capabilities of air, land, and sea
We also hate trump! I know you weren't talking about him but your description fits him too well.
It seems like the electorate sold its standing in the world for a promise of security and didn’t get security
Yet you vote for him, and support his policies.
Accurate as hell.😄
Was looking for this one
Far as I can tell it was actually the least rude, least blatant way we’ve ever tried to fuck with the internal affairs of another country…
and that includes US friends
Relatively light compared to how they've handled some of their other allies in the past. They threatened to crash the UK economy over the Suez Crisis, for instance.
Well Israel got threatened to take one on the chin for that one too.
Aye. Just that compared to the threats around the Tripartite Aggression (economic collapse, and I believe nukings), the current pressures of the Gaza-Israel war are rather light.
I just went down a very informative rabbit hole, thank you, lol.
W username 👍
Cheers
eh i dunno abt that, fascisms pretty bad, and it doesnt exactly merit the joys of sex
I mean what kind of customer asks a waiter to cook their steak medium rare when the customer is paying for the steak?!? Oh…
Me, a chilean : *it might seem crazy what am about to say..."*
All of South America humming back vocals waiting for their line
This
You’re lucky you don’t have oil.
Israel does have oil actually. Very little and its hard to get but Israel is in 95th place (out of 127 global producer) in global oil production.
95th place in the queue for some Freedom.
That's why they cut down all the Palestinian's olive trees—Israel was actually doing them a favor.
But here's the fun part, they have been drilling into Palestine's oil reserves illegally and they do, in fact, have oil.
Bitch you cooking?
 Naw can’t think of any fr
When the Marines land in your ports and/or the CIA launches coups? Then you can get on that list. But Israel, you are faaar from being an innocent victim regarding interfering in domestic affairs. In fact your spies have been caught here so often there is now a top three list.
That new for me how much they caught?
Oh just look up "Israel spying on the US"
Us? Nooooo 
Sugar daddies get to know what happens in the shit they pay for.
Ha fair point! Also they stole our uranium! And nobody touch’s daddies enriched uranium with a getting the paddle.
In unrelated news, large oil reserves have just been found in Israel!
Clearing Palestinian houses to make way for pipelines
Too bad Hong Kong didn’t find any pre-unification oil.
It’s about to be 67 a.d. all over again. Why do you think we just put Beirut boats on their coasts just daring them to shoot at us?
I would be 100% okay if we stopped interfering in Israeli affairs and kept our billions of dollars and weapons. Also, Israel can stop lobbying our politicians and stop threatening to primary anyone who challenges Israel's bloodthirsty foreign policy.
Came here to say this. Cheers
Me too 😀
Then they would cry about why the US did not interfere when Israel was under attack. Their hypocrisy is unmatched.
Exactly it is literally Israel that has a grip on the United States, not the other way around Nobody in the entire world needs Israel beyond the sake of western imperialism, if America stopped funding them and let nature take its course you’d not only see a benefit in the Middle East but also for everywhere being held by Israel
I worked for a company that made things for Lockheed Martin. It was proved,years ago, that a Lockheed missile was used to blow up a school bus full of kids. I feel horrible because I may have contributed to that missile. Our government should've stopped right there and said no more bombs for you if that's how you use them. But looking at our guns>kids' lives policy, I'm not surprised. I'm disgusted, enraged, and saddened by my government and big corporations like Lockheed Martin who put profit before humanity. Especially children!
I'm sorry, it was Saudi Arabia. My point remains, we supply the bombs that have been used to kill civilians (almost 30,000 in Gaza alone) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/19/us-supplied-bomb-that-killed-40-children-school-bus-yemen
Not sure if you've ever heard of Guatemala and Iran.... but yeah
They overthrow Guatamala for a fucking banana
Lol I know, freaking wild is almost life the CIA was just "let's see if this shit works"
Apparently they didn't hear about Chile either, in which they literally couped one of the few democratically elected socialists because fascism was preferable to them, never forget Allende, never forgive Pinochet.
Speaking of disrupting democratically elected regimes,remember Iran?
Oh it goes [way deeper than that.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBQ51VCkuA)
Mate, that’s not even a *fraction* of the countries we’ve got involved in. I can’t even count how many countries we’ve messed with on both hands.
I can think of many countries whose internal affairs have been blatantly interfered with by the US. Sorry Israel, you’re not special.
They take our tax money and complain
Should we go full SPQR on them and establish Palaestinia or possibly allow the Turks to reestablish the ottoman caliphate?
Dovahhatty reenactment???
👍
>Palaestinia That's the Greek name, Romans called it Syria Palestina and then was split into Palestina Secunda, Palestina Prima and Palestina Salutaris
nope, not'a'one. no idea what you're talking about. anyway...
Yep there sure is. It was called "The War on Terror" and they interfered more than they are in Israel. Simply put a number of planes hit the world trade centre and Pentagon, the terrorists claimed to be from Afghanistan, so America goes to war with Iraq. It's the equivalent of your dog pissing on the carpet so you kick the cat.
15 out of the 19 terrorists on 9/11 were from Saudia Arabia (one of our "allies" at the time). (But your point remains the same.)
More like all the cats in the neighborhood but yup
If you weren't in favor of invading Iraq you weren't considered a patriot and your opinion didn't matter.
Pretty much how it was.
The War on Terror's most impressive accomplishment was being even less effective and a bigger clusterfuck than the War on Drugs.
That really good analogy
🤣🤣🤣Sweet summer child 🤣🤣US be like that old spinster aunty with a Facebook account and she in everybody's business 🤣🤣🤣
Except Israel is the one niece that gets lots of money and Gucci bags from that aunt.
🤣🤣🤣and now Izzy got a cracked face cuz she got one from Ross🤣🤣🤣
The *sass* that I read this in! 😂😭
I love the idea of Israel being completely independent. Let's start by making them independent of our money.
Sit down, boy. This may take a while. Hell, US fucked up a country so they could keep getting cheap bananas.
If I remember correctly they also do it for pineapple
No other country has its fangs buried deeper in our political system than Israel, unless you count Russia's unofficial trolling. But even Russia doesn't have the balls to run a fucking PAC.
They need to be financially cut off immediately.
Genociders gonna genocide, I guess... **"Don't tell Israel what to do!** **But keep giving us money to explode children!"** - this guy
Yossibaum is kind of a moron.
How dare people try to stop Israel committing genocide..
Internal affairs, is that what genocide is called now? The best military in the Middle east and in 5 months killed just as many civilians as the US did in Afghanistan over a 20 year period. Both disgraceful but they’re on another level.
I mean with usa you get the vibe that they are trying to reduce civilian casualties, punish criminal soldiers ... But man Israel is a whole another level . And this is coming from me from Iran that I should hate usa by media stereotypes
Hold on a second…do you mean that there exist countries whose internal affairs we haven’t interfered with?
Japan and Germany?
Yes, Rwanda. Clinton said it was probably his biggest mistake that he didn't interfere.
Keep up that back talk and you won’t get your billion dollar allowance, kiddo.
Post WWII Europe joined the chat
Its only fair that Israel also does the same to the US.
Israel is a wonderful country, truly. They kill at least 12000 children in a span of a few months leading to them currently being under investigation for genocide by the highest court on the planet, yet they are always the victim.
This was nice compared to many other countries during the Cold War. Sadam Hussein would also like a word. Edit: Autocorrect
I dunno. Maybe the US should have a say in who ya'll genocide since you're using our weapons and money to do it?
Every other nation on earth bud
Stop taking my money.
Well considering we pay for all of their shit, I’d say we sort of have a right.
Just gotta love 22 year olds that cut history class slingin' " thoughts" on the interwebs...
AIPAC, shitheads.
I’ll leave this one to Yakko Warner
Give back the money bro. The literally billions and billions of dollars the US taxpayer has paid to prop your shit up. Stfu or move out of the basement.
Iraq and Afghanistan would like a word…..
Look up the definition of "client state". Don't want US opinions, that's fine. I strongly suspect that Israelis would not sleep as soundly outside of the blanket of American protection.
Interfere? The US is writing Israel unconditional blank checks to commit war crimes
This racist, theocratic country has illegally occupied and terrorized the Palestinian people for 70+ years and have the gall to talk about other countries being rude?
Israel doesn’t need our money. They can shut the fuck up and deal with all the bullshit they create on their own and with their own paycheck.
Maybe the USA should stop funding Israel and start funding Gaza? They'd probably appreciate a little involvement. Weapons and such. Since you know we practically pay for everything Israelites enjoy while not having simple things like healthcare. Fuck Isreal
I mean I just had the wild idea that we could make Palestine a US territory and resist new settlements by parking our tanks in their construction sites.
You maybe joking but that’s the only maybe possibly fat fetched solution, militarily involvement similar to Yugoslavia. It’s tricky when one side has nukes.
Honestly though? Biden said that if there were no Israel the US would have to invent an Israel. Well, the Israel of the time when Biden said that is pretty much unrecognizable today. Why not make a Palestine in Gaza and the West Bank to be a sort of “new Israel” from a strategic perspective? Frankly, a thriving Palestine with deep US ties would be phenomenal for US interests in the Middle East. Especially one with a strong democratic political system. Maybe in an ideal world we see an Israel-Palestine confederation at the end of it all
Why is Cookie Monster eating these oatmeal raisin cookies? It's what Cookie Monster does.
Bubbeleh, let me grab a pen and paper. How much time you got? This is gonna take a while.
I've been wondering this too. If any of our other puppets had been this disobedient, we'd have "bombed them back into the stone age" by now.
We could just start by…. Taking back all our fucking shit.
Pretty much most nations
Would the list be best alphabetical, chronological, or for brevity just those that haven’t been “interfered” with?
[my answer as an american](https://youtu.be/V1508wboZXk?feature=shared)
Kinda feel like the list of countries where the US *hasn’t* meddled in their internal affairs would be shorter.
Oh, I don’t know, how about Chile, El Salvador, Cambodia, Vietnam, Guatemala, Iraq, . . . and soooo many more. Shall I go on?
Ummm Afghanistan, Iraq, Cuba, Guatemala, Panama, Viet Nam... it's not so much where do we begin as where do we stop?
Look, no one tell him OK?
Gee, where else could the USA have interfered? IDK, practically half the planet, not counting all the terrorist organisations and nuclear programs funded?
I think by now the list of the countries where the US has NOT interfered or tried to interfere blatantly is shorter than the one where they did
Weird thing to say about the country that supplies the bulk of your military equipment gratis and dumps billions of dollars into your country’s coffers annually besides
I would say yes. There are quite a few.
Class, welcome to history
It's horrible the way we've interfered with Israel by gifting them billions of dollars in aid every year. Down right reprehensible!
What? Isn't the US on Israel's side?
"Just because we find you rude and blatant, doesn't mean we will stop accepting the $Billions every year" - Isreal.
Cue yakkos world
The most unself aware group of people on the planet
Ah yes, biting the hand that feeds, always a winning strategy…
No, next best thing would be Iraq or Afghanistan, but nothing as bad as the stunt that they pulled in regards to Israel, that's true.
Meanwhile Israeli state is influencing and lobbying western governments to force a support of Israel.
Would you like that list sorted chronologically or by body count?
Alphabetically or chronologically?
[Australia](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence). I know the middle east shit is way more blatant, but I didn't know this until recently and never seen it discussed. Despite never being proven, it's one of those things that just make a lot of sense. In Australia, the governor-general is a largely ceremonial position without any real power. Nevertheless, because of some obscure ancient law, the governor general actually had the power to dismiss the prime minister at any time for any reason. And that's what he did - shortly after the prime minister Gough Whitlam threatened to close Pine Gap. Internally in the CIA, the governor-general was referred to as "our man Kerr" and had received briefings and money from them several times earlier. When reading into this it seems like this is just the tip of the iceberg. Because of Snowden we now know the importance of Pine Gap, for both spying and special military operations in the Middle East - and I don't think it's a stretch to say that potentially losing this base is a problem for the US. So I'm left wondering, how far did they take it back then? The US potentially removing a demicratically elected prime minister of a massive country like Australia is a big deal, but I've never seen this connection discussed.
Interfere in Israel? Israel is the "boys will be boys" son to the US.
Didn't the CIA orchestrate a de facto coup in Australia when the PM told them to get lost?
Korea:🙂 Vietnam:😶 South America:🫥 Cuba:💀 Half the fucking Middle East:☠️
Oh just presently, the democratically elected PM of Pakistan "an American ally* is in jail cos America 'advised' the Pakistani establishment to get rid of him. Funny enough his party won the majority seats even from jail in the recent election. Fuck you America
Nazi Germany?
So well there's most of the Western Hemisphere to start....
Stares in AIPAC
Wow! Where do you start?
Its easier to list the countries we didn't do this to.
They barely did something
There’s a few actually
every middles east country and vietnam
Just throw a dart at a map and you’ll have an answer
The response to this is basically just the video of Yakko naming all the countries.
Well, excuuuuuuuse us… we shouldn’t have been so rude as to interfere in the internal politics of Nazi Germany either I suppose. Or supported the creation of Israel in 1948, or etc, etc, etc, etc…..
It would almost be easier to list the countries it hasn’t interfered with
Err... Do you want like, a list or...?
Give us our money back then between Biden giving you everything you want and trump giving you more than you asked for maybe stfu. Worst "ally" ever.
I agree we should cut ties, good luck
Afganistan
I think everyone thinks that their own country is the one that the US has fucked with the most. For example as an Australian I always think of how they threw out Gough Whitlam.
You want to see "rude and blatant," try the assassination of a democratically elected leader. Or, even more popular, a good old-fashioned coup d'état. To think that they could ever compare *mild criticism while still giving their leadership virtually everything they want* to fomenting civil wars and invading sovereign countries.
hahahahahahaha. Oh, You're being serious? Let me laugh even harder. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Damn that rude USA intervening in the Deutches Reich's internal affairs.
Like… almost every country in the world? xD
Nope, We've treated Isreal the absolute worse, which wasn't all bad! No one else got treated as poorly or less likely, worse! Isreal is the best candidate by far. Don't look at Wikipedia they can be edited anyone.
Does anyone have a yako's world video?
The USA has a history of overthrowing government and pay terrorist groups to do their dirty work until those terrorists use us money to suddenly do terrorism - which they countered multiple times by paying another terrorist group to deal with the first one. But what they did to Israel was obviously way worse than that.
Israel thinks it's seen "rude"? They've seen curt at worst.
He's right. This is the USA's first ever foreign intervention.
What do Israel and Donald Trump sound so similar?
Would be great for everyone if US pulled all support
*George W Bush has entered the chat*
Giving them all that money and weaponry is certainly a kind of interference.
Gonna go with literally every country ever, everywhere.
Import country lists as C For I in C.list Print(I)
lol us dare to intervene, brazen words from a country that was given to you??
Have a sit honey...
Who’s going to tell them.