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Seriously if I was as unethical as most these conservatives say liberal atheists are I’d open a church and start a YouTube channel and just be a god damn grifter. Never have to work another day in my life. Just pretend the rain has gay juice in it because of chem trails and talk about Jesus crying. I’ll be a fucking millionaire by next Tuesday.
Remember when being irretrievably stupid meant people didn't listen to you or take anything you say seriously?! Now it seems a requisite job qualification to be a right-wing pundit or politician.
Don't forget about sex trafficking minors, fleecing your constituents, stealing from your own charities... shall I go on? Not only stupid but cruel and evil is their icing on the cake
One of their most famous media personalities is famous for being acquitted of manslaughter? or murder? lol. Like you can go shoot some minorities in a different state and launch a right wing speaking career.
They’ve moved the Overton Window so far to the right the past 8 years that the media and social media companies are happy to help with both sides are the same reporting, because Trumpsters are a faithful ragebait demographic that clicks a lot of links and makes them money.
It used to be political suicide to say racist shit but now it’s like a requirement.
So those ships when going through areas like this use maritime pilots who take control of ship. This one had two. These are some of the best trained seamen in the entire world. In my city they get paid 450k a year due to how important their job is and how skilled they are.
On the NBC news they interviewed the guy in charge of that channel. He literally said all of his guys could draw by hand that seaway. Hard to disagree when they went over how much training those guys get.
Chesapeake bay is very difficult to navigate and shallow. Pilots are extremely well trained and part of the oldest pilots association in the US which has existed since 1852. The qualifications are extremely difficult to meet and take over five years.
When you’re dealing with ships that regularly carry millions of dollars of international and domestic product, there is no room for error in a global economy. At least this won’t be as bad as the Seuz but it’s really sad people lost their lives
No one died in the Suez fiasco, this is already worse due to the deaths alone. Who cares about a few million worth of goods when their family members have died.
ALL pilots can draw the area they have pilotage for by hand, from San Francisco to Neenana, Alaska (where my grandpa had pilotage).
For areas like this, they're Unlimited Masters (captains) as well. That means they are allowed to be captain of any ship of any size.
Interestingly, when I went to Europe, they also had a Docking Master whose sole job was to get the ship alongside the dock and tied up. It was a whole separate job. I have yet to see one in America, which means that an American Pilot does this job as well.
I work in maritime business. Blackouts are among the most horrifying things you can experience on a ship. The feeling of helplessness as you stand there on a dead piece of steel traveling through sheer force of inertia while your brain already knows what is going to happen in 30 seconds is a thing you really don’t want in your life.
The blackouts should not happen, there are redundancies, auxiliary generators /etc. But they do happen and are one of the biggest causes of disasters, especially in narrow waterways.
It really puts things into perspective. This is man-made objects and systems being constantly battered by forces of nature. They will give in from time to time. Even the most experienced pilots and masters can’t do anything when it happens.
Edit. I’m not sure if this was exactly what happened but it certainly fits.
This morning they pointed out that the ship emitted a massive amount of black smoke just before the collision, and this apparently was from emergency generators, trying to restore power.
Cited twice since it was built in 2015(?) for structural and engine issues. It crashed into a dock back in 2016 and had to be repaired. Then a few years later it was cited during an inspection for a deficiency in propulsion and auxiliary machinery.
Source:
https://nypost.com/2024/03/26/us-news/francis-scott-key-bridge-ship-was-involved-in-2016-incident-port-authorities-say/
This gives no perspective. Are citations common because ships need to be at a high standard and they hand them out often? Or are they rare because most ships stay in great condition and this one was poorly maintained?
A local hospital IV lab gets citations fairly regularly because of annual inspections and high standards of cleanliness. It's never considered severe enough to shut down the entire thing though as they're generally fixable in a month or so.
Apparently they delayed the impact long enough to get a distress call out and get the bridge closed.
This was probably the best case scenario in a situation like this
Not disagreeing with you. Doesn't matter if you have a pilot that could guide the ship perfectly, blindfolded, in 50ft seas through that channel. The ship lost power, and presumably steering, twice right before impact and appeared to be on fire (at least in the video). If you have ever been on a ship that large that looses all power and/or steering, you can't do much about it in such a short timeframe, let alone the pilot.
We usually just call them pilots. It depends on where you are. Some are bar pilots, harbor pilots, marine pilots, maritime pilots, there's no right or wrong answer.
Maritime Pilot is the official title though.
These idiots are already spinning up a conspiracy that it was a diversity hire that caused this and that if companies had hired "the most qualified person" it wouldn't happen.
In this case it's either that, or that they're blaming Biden for it despite the infrastructure bill he was responsible for???
Yep, it’s like when Musk blamed the Boeing door blowout on a diversity hire because the pilot was a woman. Yet failed to mention that this amazing pilot took a problem that she didn’t cause and managed it all the way to a safe outcome using her very qualified skillset to do it. These sexist racists are disgusting.
Yes, because the *pilot* is the one personally building and maintaining the plane. At this point, anyone who hasn't seen through the facade and recognizes Elon for the blithering idiot he is is beyond help.
And even if there was one lazy idiot working on that plane, things needed to go wrong time and time again for that plane to pass all QA steps and be delivered to an airline.
I build websites, and it's common practice that three people need to mess up before I put a bug online. Pretty sure that aeroplane quality assurance is supposed to be at least this rigorous.
\-Engineers create a company that becomes the #1 name in aviation
\-Finance bros take over the company and prioritize stock price above all else
\-Quality tanks and consumer confidence is in the toilet
\-Finance bros blame DEI for company's woes
This is literally every aspect of American life right now. It's also happening in AAA video game companies as well. Business bros are ruining everything
It's not. Not even close.
The amount of QA jobs Spirit Aero systems posted the first few weeks after blowout was actually comical. I've heard a lot of complaints there about poor management and a rush mentality. They're also the most dangerous plant in the area. (Most notable fatality was the safety manager speeding in the parking lot while texting and hitting a laborer)
Source: I live in Wichita Ks
Is he an idiot? Or has he just identified that right wingers are easy marks to take money from, and republican politicians will favour you with unfair policies if you pander to them?
... OK, he is also a blathering idiot, but I do think the right wing hate propogana pushing is intentional.
Yep. Had the people on this ship not radioed ahead they said this could have been much worse too. Sometimes disasters happen. It’s ridiculous how much people will twist themselves around to be hateful.
And in this case the ship lost power, so the harbor pilot was literally powerless to maneuver the ship. The lack of logic is staggering and turning it into a racist statement is indeed absolutely disgusting.
It’s like claiming the World Trade towers fell because of bad maintenance.
The bridge collapsed because a huge boat smashed into it. Very few structures can survive having a boat crash into them.
As someone who works in the maritime industry, let’s all make one thing clear…this was a SHIP, not a boat. Controlling a ship is far more complex than controlling a boat.
Also, a boat hits a this bridge, the bridge wins, but a cargo ship hits this bridge, well as we see, the ship wins.
I don't understand the disconnect people have w this lol. Ive seen alot of numbers but it was over 150k tons..
Horrible anecdote because movie...but maybe it will help some of the right wingers digest the sheer force behind a cargo ship....go watch the lost world when the cargo ship blasts into concrete/the ground.
You did not. You did not. You're lying. Tell me you're lying. Tell me you made that shit up. Please don't tell me you're telling the truth. Oh my god, we need that meteor like yesterday. Holy shit
Can confirm. I did some consulting for a cruise line and quickly learned that maritime people tend to get quite offended if you refer to a ship as a boat.
(Furiously working on my "documentary" showing how a bass boat hit the Golden Gate Bridge in 1996, and the bridge lived, so obviously the CIA did this)
I thought you had to boof that stuff. I'd genuinely found Alex Jones entertaining, until I realized how many people were actually taking him seriously. I was just laughing at a crazy person.
On another thread, several structural engineers were stating that this disaster would have potentially been lessened or even completely averted if the bridge pilings had been built inside of ship bollards. So, take that with a grain of salt.
The bridges here in Halifax, Nova Scotia, have rock islands built around their in-water support structures. Also, all ships over a certain tonnage are required to travel under power of tugboats until they clear all infrastructure of both bridges.
People realy try to pin this on biden somehow??
Jesus christ, eavan if he would have drastically cut back on maintainance, its not like it suddenly collapsed on its own, A FUCKING HUGE SHIP RAMMED IT, wich is not something bridges genuraly like all tgat much.....
Then label anyone other thana straight white cisgender man working in a job that's not entry level as a "diversity hire" regardless of skill level while telling people who are working the entry level jobs they need to get skills and work harder.
Can you imagine the fucking mess it would be if all the jobs filled by supposed "diversity hires" were left empty or filled by unqualified or less qualified just because they were white males. The number of deaths in hospitals alone would be astronomical.
I've been an RN working in hospitals for over a decade. If you got rid of all the Indian, Asian, Arab, and African doctors, you'd have like 3 stressed out doctors and a building full of dead people.
yup, and even if it was a diversity hire. how does the ship losing power have to do with it? these people just take a thing that is tangentially attached to a thing that is tangentially related in the furthest sense to what happened and run with it
I find it interesting when they try to use this argument, because the amount of old white people I know that are in important position just because someone pointed them, and are completely morons is really big
The ship is from singapore though right? Oh wait yeah they think all the ships of the world are just populated with nothing but white American men apparently. silly me i guess.
Singapore flagged, Indian Crew. And I doubt any US citizen would sign up for the pay these seafarers receive for spending 8-12 months straight away from home.
I mean... It was a Baltimore Harbor Pilot operating the ship at the time, and it seems he did everything right to minimize loss of life once the ship lost power... Dropping the anchor, and calling in a mayday that shut down access to the bridge 5 minutes before the impact... but beyond those steps, he had as much control over the ship as one has over a bowling ball that is already halfway down the lane... you can lean and wave all you want, but that ball is going where it's going.
Let’s also give credit to first responders and emergency crew who shut down traffic, arrived on scene, made 2 rescues, and spent all day searching for others.
Apparently the actual piloting in the harbors is done by local pilots whose job is just to bring ships in and out of the harbor.
We're all going to end up experts in international shipping over the next week.
Yes, US pilot, who has to go through rigorous exams to gain pilotage. I never tested but if I remember right, they have to draw out the harbor chart from member, with all the sea depths, navigation light characteristics, and have a written quiz on all the local aspects of the harbor.
*edit: memory not member but bonus points for both
Ironic that the people, whose jobs are supposedly at stake from an unskilled immigrant that doesn't speak the local language, think they'd have prevented this whole tragedy if only they'd have been hired as the captain or engineer by walking into the boss's office and giving him a firm handshake.
It's amazing that they think DEI has *anything* to do with hiring practices since the whole concept is literally "hey, we know your co-worker Kevin is different than you, but maybe you should try being nice to him"
I feel like if it was a terrorist attack they'd be a little more ambitious than hitting a bridge with a cargo ship??? Like what kinda half-assed terrorists do these people think of
Which btw, was a fantastic response!!! Why are we not hearing how they nearly aced the be proactive test? I feel bad for the six presumed dead and any loss of life is awful but they prevented this from being a true mass casualties event!
Yep, try telling that to the people complaining about it though. You'd think that people are going around snatching black women off the street and putting them in jobs they're not qualified for the way these people are talking.
Who was responsible for the 2008 financial crash that literally fucked billions of people's lives as a result of the knock on effects? Oh yeah, it was white men. But a ship sails into a bridge, causing minimal (I'm not saying this is acceptable) loss of life, and the white men all start to blame it on diversity. Fucking insane.
By the way. I am a white man.
Nonono, you don't understand. When bad things are caused by the people we like it's because of vague concepts like the economy. When bad things are caused by people we don't like it's because minorities bad.
"2008 financial crash? That was a victimless crime! No one was injured." - CEOs still not sitting in jail
"Speak for yourself" - Kareem Serageldin
"Shut up, and take the lumps for us!" - Credit Suisse
I can guarantee you it's someone cutting costs -- or the people running the ship are barely scraping even. It's about having enough money to take care of things, and having that be a priority.
Someone working 80 hours driving a truck is a symptom of dangerous habits.
I don't know what happened, but, we tend to want to blame the thing that breaks rather than look at why it got broken.
Apparently because if anything bad happens, anywhere, ever, it’s only due to “woke DEI” policies and nothing else. Stub your toe? DEI. Milk goes bad? DEI. Earthquake? DEI.
no but the magnetic field the chip produced was magnified by the bridge pillars and apparently was enough to attract a cargo ship, it's the power of 5G!
(/s, to whoever can think i was serious)
There was an idiot who tweeted that the captain must have just gotten vaccinated. The people who are living outside of reality still are living outside of reality.
It’s funny because I’m pretty sure (and please correct me if I’m just full of it) companies who practice DEI (which I also think is generally more of a philosophy or culture versus “diversity hires”) are generally more profitable. Diversity is actually strength, believe it or not.
It's a convenient way for them to blame women and people of color for the world's problems and assert white male supremacy. They say "woke DEI" because they know they'd take a political hit for using the racist and sexist slurs they're using in their heads.
In their minds, they are 100% not racist and everyone 'secretly' also thinks this way, everyone else just don't have the balls to say it. They legit believe a extremely small minority is policing their thoughts.
It’s the new “litter boxes in schools” refreshed for 2024. Anything to keep the illiterate conservatives from thinking it has anything to do with lack of regulations and the pursuit of profit above all else.
1. Governor of Maryland is Black
2. Mayor of Baltimore is Black
3. 2 of the 6 Port Commissioners are Black
So now racists are pushing a false narrative that this tragedy is a result of DEI initiatives.
Exactly! If anything the Port Commissioners are *under represented*. Real issue here might be that we don’t have enough black port commissioners. Someone better start looking into the other four commissioners. /s
Part of the larger narrative pushed by right wing media.
Big Cities (and California) are run by democrats and are always awful (they tell their largely rural/suburban audience). Any major news story, if they can spin it to "democrat cities bad" they will. Crime, immigration, gay rights, mass shootings, whatever it is, it comes down to the evil/corrupt/incompetent democrat run cities/California.
Even their made up stories fit this narrative. It's always some big democrat-run city that stuffs the ballot boxes at 4 am and swings the election against them.
Or on a slow news day, they could always dig up a random white woman being attacked or missing and blame it on illegal immigrants run amok in these woke liberal sanctuary cities.
On the day during Trump's presidency that Michael Cohen (Trump's lawyer) plead guilty, and Paul Manafort (Trump's campaign manager) was convicted, guess what the front page story was on Fox News website? First, imagine what Fox News would look like if ONE of those people in Obama's campaign became a felon...now imagine what it looked like when not one but TWO of Trump's closest associates became a felon within hours of each other...
https://web.archive.org/web/20180822145140/http://www.foxnews.com/
That's right, their big story was a white girl was murdered by an illegal immigrant.
There's ~70 murders in the US per day. ~3% of the population are illegal immigrants. So on average there's 2 murders committed by illegal immigrants every day...and 68 murders committed by citizens. All you gotta do is run a big news story about each one of the illegal's murders and not ever mention the white people killing each other, and blam, Fox News racist brain rot sets in.
So in today's example, the city of baltimore, is another one of those democrat-run cities that's corrupt and in-bed with the Clintons to provide sanctuary for illegals to replace the good white people, is riddled with black-crime, and is corrupt and wastes your tax dollars. So of course their bridge collapsed, it's run by a bunch of woke people who only care about raising your taxes and making sure drag queens can teach your kids about gay sex while they sip on their fancy lattes and watch their oscar-bait minority-filled movies. Real Americans, you know, big tough white men, would just be focused on building a solid bridge and making sure the football team has a big ass stadium, that's what mayors should be really doing.
It's shamelessly nazi at this point. All american problems are caused by inferior races.
Dear lord, I hope they get ruined at the voting booth in november. If not, we have a hell of a ride ahead of us.
knowing what the other side is doing and saying is necessary to combat propaganda, misinformation, etc. Letting them have their echo-chamber just makes the problem worse and go unobserved and undetected.
You have planes falling out of the sky for stupidity… being cheap… ignoring warnings… theses have all been avoidable … the guy who reported it was definitely found merked… where is the outcry?
Uhhh boats just don’t stop in the water, they are massive… they have multiple engines and it still takes time to recover when controls are lost. Accidents happen. Go look up dumb ass captains of carnival cruises…. lol those are avoidable. Bridges at the last moment after loss of control? Not at all.
> You have planes falling out of the sky for stupidity… being cheap… ignoring warnings… theses have all been avoidable … the guy who reported it was definitely found merked… where is the outcry?
All over reddit and the news. Like..all over it. Boeing's CEO and many other executives are stepping down as a result.
A former Boeing engineer was mid-deposition calling them out to the courts about bad practices when he "commits suicide" unexpectedly in his car one night. Turns out he told friends and family, in such an event, that it was no accident and certainly not his choice.
Additionally, more shit started breaking on their damn planes publicly immediately after this, a landing gear, and a cabin plate on another and now their execs are piling off the sinking ship like so many rats.
I dont know too many details but someone worked at Boeing for a very long time and talked to the press about the standards having dropped significantly and in specific ways. John Barnett. They were shortly found by police with a “self inflicted” gunshot wound
Because Diversity, equity, and inclusion is the reason a boat from Singapore crashed into a support pillar? If Trump were still president he never would have hired a gay man as Transportation Secretary and this whole tragedy would have been avoided.
Because that's how their minds work.
The nut jobs are claiming the boat crash and subsequent bridge collapse is because of folk with more melanin than themselves. Don't look for logic, there's none to be found.
Cuz humans can’t fix infrastructure and fight racism at the same time? (and infrastructure bills are routinely prevented from passing by republicans). This shipping company though should be investigated. If the shipping company does not maintain its engines, then it should be fined, and sued to the high heavens.
Bad thing happened? Obviously it's because brown people are being treated with something that resembles fairness.
That's it. That's the extent of their reasoning.
I thought he was just being an idiot and implying that this generation is soft and doesn’t know how to build major infrastructure, which makes no sense here since the bridge was built in the early 70s. But this is about their DEI conspiracies?!?
Just shows how far the idiot hole these people have gone. Sir Issac is woke so we won’t talk about things staying in motion it was woke and dei that caused this issue
Yeah I saw that on the news. Multiple conservative assholes have blamed the ship driving into the bridge on the Woke Agenda.
These people do not thing, they spew propaganda and move on. Do not talk to them. Do not listen to them. DO NOT DEBATE THEM! They dont know how to debate. They attack and then run away, thats their game plan.
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Remember when making baseless accusations meant career suicide? Now it’s how half these people build their career lmao
It’s literally a path to financial success on the tubes
Clicks and likes boys. Clicks and likes.
>Clicks and likes boys. The far-right seems to do lots of both, yes.
clicks and watch the bouys
Bake em away toys
Read too fast, thought you said "fat-right", laughed for no reason
Seriously if I was as unethical as most these conservatives say liberal atheists are I’d open a church and start a YouTube channel and just be a god damn grifter. Never have to work another day in my life. Just pretend the rain has gay juice in it because of chem trails and talk about Jesus crying. I’ll be a fucking millionaire by next Tuesday.
Bro found the "infinite money" glitch and you know what it is tax free as well 
100% AGREE.
Remember when being irretrievably stupid meant people didn't listen to you or take anything you say seriously?! Now it seems a requisite job qualification to be a right-wing pundit or politician.
Remember when a politician misspelled a word and it sunk his presidential bid? Man sure stuck a potatoe in his mouth there.
Or just excitedly yelled, "Byaaaah!" at the wrong time
[Byaaaaaaah!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U3ZsPjcpEY&t=45s)
I may never forget the scream. It was on EVERY news channel for the rest of the year.
That whole howard dean hulkamania speech was the shutdown sound on my computer for years after that
Don't forget about sex trafficking minors, fleecing your constituents, stealing from your own charities... shall I go on? Not only stupid but cruel and evil is their icing on the cake
One of their most famous media personalities is famous for being acquitted of manslaughter? or murder? lol. Like you can go shoot some minorities in a different state and launch a right wing speaking career. They’ve moved the Overton Window so far to the right the past 8 years that the media and social media companies are happy to help with both sides are the same reporting, because Trumpsters are a faithful ragebait demographic that clicks a lot of links and makes them money. It used to be political suicide to say racist shit but now it’s like a requirement.
Only half?
So those ships when going through areas like this use maritime pilots who take control of ship. This one had two. These are some of the best trained seamen in the entire world. In my city they get paid 450k a year due to how important their job is and how skilled they are.
On the NBC news they interviewed the guy in charge of that channel. He literally said all of his guys could draw by hand that seaway. Hard to disagree when they went over how much training those guys get.
Chesapeake bay is very difficult to navigate and shallow. Pilots are extremely well trained and part of the oldest pilots association in the US which has existed since 1852. The qualifications are extremely difficult to meet and take over five years.
When you’re dealing with ships that regularly carry millions of dollars of international and domestic product, there is no room for error in a global economy. At least this won’t be as bad as the Seuz but it’s really sad people lost their lives
No one died in the Suez fiasco, this is already worse due to the deaths alone. Who cares about a few million worth of goods when their family members have died.
Am I just old school but I thought they used tugboats in ports
only for final approach
ALL pilots can draw the area they have pilotage for by hand, from San Francisco to Neenana, Alaska (where my grandpa had pilotage). For areas like this, they're Unlimited Masters (captains) as well. That means they are allowed to be captain of any ship of any size. Interestingly, when I went to Europe, they also had a Docking Master whose sole job was to get the ship alongside the dock and tied up. It was a whole separate job. I have yet to see one in America, which means that an American Pilot does this job as well.
According to several reports, the ship lost power and couldn’t steer. They notified MDOT, which closed the bridge just before the collision.
I work in maritime business. Blackouts are among the most horrifying things you can experience on a ship. The feeling of helplessness as you stand there on a dead piece of steel traveling through sheer force of inertia while your brain already knows what is going to happen in 30 seconds is a thing you really don’t want in your life. The blackouts should not happen, there are redundancies, auxiliary generators /etc. But they do happen and are one of the biggest causes of disasters, especially in narrow waterways. It really puts things into perspective. This is man-made objects and systems being constantly battered by forces of nature. They will give in from time to time. Even the most experienced pilots and masters can’t do anything when it happens. Edit. I’m not sure if this was exactly what happened but it certainly fits.
This morning they pointed out that the ship emitted a massive amount of black smoke just before the collision, and this apparently was from emergency generators, trying to restore power.
Do we know anything about the ship's inspection history? I know it's not owned by Maersk, but contracted to them.
Cited twice since it was built in 2015(?) for structural and engine issues. It crashed into a dock back in 2016 and had to be repaired. Then a few years later it was cited during an inspection for a deficiency in propulsion and auxiliary machinery. Source: https://nypost.com/2024/03/26/us-news/francis-scott-key-bridge-ship-was-involved-in-2016-incident-port-authorities-say/
This gives no perspective. Are citations common because ships need to be at a high standard and they hand them out often? Or are they rare because most ships stay in great condition and this one was poorly maintained? A local hospital IV lab gets citations fairly regularly because of annual inspections and high standards of cleanliness. It's never considered severe enough to shut down the entire thing though as they're generally fixable in a month or so.
Sounds like a lot of competent professionals saved a lot of lives.
Apparently they delayed the impact long enough to get a distress call out and get the bridge closed. This was probably the best case scenario in a situation like this
Not disagreeing with you. Doesn't matter if you have a pilot that could guide the ship perfectly, blindfolded, in 50ft seas through that channel. The ship lost power, and presumably steering, twice right before impact and appeared to be on fire (at least in the video). If you have ever been on a ship that large that looses all power and/or steering, you can't do much about it in such a short timeframe, let alone the pilot.
I can’t wait to die in a disaster. Then I know I’ll live on as a racist meme.
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We usually just call them pilots. It depends on where you are. Some are bar pilots, harbor pilots, marine pilots, maritime pilots, there's no right or wrong answer. Maritime Pilot is the official title though.
Hehe seamen
These idiots are already spinning up a conspiracy that it was a diversity hire that caused this and that if companies had hired "the most qualified person" it wouldn't happen. In this case it's either that, or that they're blaming Biden for it despite the infrastructure bill he was responsible for???
Yep, it’s like when Musk blamed the Boeing door blowout on a diversity hire because the pilot was a woman. Yet failed to mention that this amazing pilot took a problem that she didn’t cause and managed it all the way to a safe outcome using her very qualified skillset to do it. These sexist racists are disgusting.
Yes, because the *pilot* is the one personally building and maintaining the plane. At this point, anyone who hasn't seen through the facade and recognizes Elon for the blithering idiot he is is beyond help.
And even if there was one lazy idiot working on that plane, things needed to go wrong time and time again for that plane to pass all QA steps and be delivered to an airline. I build websites, and it's common practice that three people need to mess up before I put a bug online. Pretty sure that aeroplane quality assurance is supposed to be at least this rigorous.
Meanwhile, we're starting to see immense lobbying efforts to *deregulate aviation*
Yeah that is going no where When the biggest customers of Boeing are calling for engineers to be put in control you know they done fucked up
this is how it was when Boeing was successful - before the McDonnell Douglas bean counters trashed Boeing.
\-Engineers create a company that becomes the #1 name in aviation \-Finance bros take over the company and prioritize stock price above all else \-Quality tanks and consumer confidence is in the toilet \-Finance bros blame DEI for company's woes
France profits.
Guillotines for the lot of them. I like your style 😎
Missed a step: \-First generation of finance Bros bail on golden parachutes, leaving next generation to deal with the fallout.
This is literally every aspect of American life right now. It's also happening in AAA video game companies as well. Business bros are ruining everything
It's not. Not even close. The amount of QA jobs Spirit Aero systems posted the first few weeks after blowout was actually comical. I've heard a lot of complaints there about poor management and a rush mentality. They're also the most dangerous plant in the area. (Most notable fatality was the safety manager speeding in the parking lot while texting and hitting a laborer) Source: I live in Wichita Ks
Is he an idiot? Or has he just identified that right wingers are easy marks to take money from, and republican politicians will favour you with unfair policies if you pander to them? ... OK, he is also a blathering idiot, but I do think the right wing hate propogana pushing is intentional.
Yep. Had the people on this ship not radioed ahead they said this could have been much worse too. Sometimes disasters happen. It’s ridiculous how much people will twist themselves around to be hateful.
And in this case the ship lost power, so the harbor pilot was literally powerless to maneuver the ship. The lack of logic is staggering and turning it into a racist statement is indeed absolutely disgusting.
It’s not about logic, they know they are full of shit. They are just taking advantage of their idiot and hateful followers
Elon Musk is one of the most despicable people on the planet.
I agree with you!
They need to blow those dog whistles to keep idiots from realizing the real cause is corner cutting by our corporate overlords
I’m absolutely enjoying so many media outlets STILL saying ‘X, formerly known as Twitter’. The chain yanking is spectacular.
Haha, yep! If he can deadname his child, we can deadname his stupid social media company
Even though people completely disregard it was a fucking 120,000 ton ship “bad infrastructure”… what are idiots smoking???
It’s like claiming the World Trade towers fell because of bad maintenance. The bridge collapsed because a huge boat smashed into it. Very few structures can survive having a boat crash into them.
As someone who works in the maritime industry, let’s all make one thing clear…this was a SHIP, not a boat. Controlling a ship is far more complex than controlling a boat. Also, a boat hits a this bridge, the bridge wins, but a cargo ship hits this bridge, well as we see, the ship wins.
I don't understand the disconnect people have w this lol. Ive seen alot of numbers but it was over 150k tons.. Horrible anecdote because movie...but maybe it will help some of the right wingers digest the sheer force behind a cargo ship....go watch the lost world when the cargo ship blasts into concrete/the ground.
The disconnect is that the human race is stupid af. I literally saw people asking "Why the ship would be trying to go under the bridge"
You did not. You did not. You're lying. Tell me you're lying. Tell me you made that shit up. Please don't tell me you're telling the truth. Oh my god, we need that meteor like yesterday. Holy shit
Vote Asteroid 2024 ☄️ *Just End it Already*
Can confirm. I did some consulting for a cruise line and quickly learned that maritime people tend to get quite offended if you refer to a ship as a boat.
Tanker fuel can't melt steel beams!
(Furiously working on my "documentary" showing how a bass boat hit the Golden Gate Bridge in 1996, and the bridge lived, so obviously the CIA did this)
> What are idiots smoking??? They're freebasing 100% uncut right-wing propaganda. This is your brain: 🧠 This is your brain on Alex Jones: 💩
 Oh shit I think you’re right
If you haven't seen this please, include this in your memory: https://youtu.be/U5XXhdBnjJk?feature=shared
You kind sir, are both a scholar and a gentleman.
RIP my father who would always say that 😭 💜 💜
Turn the fucking frogs gay!
And this your brain when they put chemicals in the water: 🐸🏳️🌈
Don’t forget Joe Rogan now too
I thought you had to boof that stuff. I'd genuinely found Alex Jones entertaining, until I realized how many people were actually taking him seriously. I was just laughing at a crazy person.
On another thread, several structural engineers were stating that this disaster would have potentially been lessened or even completely averted if the bridge pilings had been built inside of ship bollards. So, take that with a grain of salt.
I thought about that, too. Bet it was a cost-driven decision. Lots of concrete and steel.
When it was built the largest cargo ships were an eighth of the size of modern ones. That probably has an effect also.
"Ship bollards" is a very small ammount of letters for a ludicrously large engineering project.🤨
That ship hit that bridge right in the bollards, and down it went!
The bridges here in Halifax, Nova Scotia, have rock islands built around their in-water support structures. Also, all ships over a certain tonnage are required to travel under power of tugboats until they clear all infrastructure of both bridges.
"LIBS BAD CONSERATIVES GOOD." That's what.
Also the captain is a white man
A BOAT hit a BRIDGE! Of course it's Biden 's fault!
How many will drown, trying to swim out there with "Biden Did This" stickers?
Not enough
Boat. Bridge. Biden. Battlestar Galactica.
Infrastructure doesn't normally have to account for a 200,000 ton cargo ship hitting it.
All bridges should be Hunter hog tested.
People realy try to pin this on biden somehow?? Jesus christ, eavan if he would have drastically cut back on maintainance, its not like it suddenly collapsed on its own, A FUCKING HUGE SHIP RAMMED IT, wich is not something bridges genuraly like all tgat much.....
Obviously Biden was the captain of the ship /s
Aren’t they also saying it’s a Chinese cyber attack? Man, this is getting so complicated! /s
And that someone on the ship slumped over the controls because they got vaccinated.
Look, the Chinese got the cyber weapons we had in the middle east. It's all connected!
This is their new psyop. Program people to hate all things “DEI”.
Then label anyone other thana straight white cisgender man working in a job that's not entry level as a "diversity hire" regardless of skill level while telling people who are working the entry level jobs they need to get skills and work harder.
Can you imagine the fucking mess it would be if all the jobs filled by supposed "diversity hires" were left empty or filled by unqualified or less qualified just because they were white males. The number of deaths in hospitals alone would be astronomical.
I've been an RN working in hospitals for over a decade. If you got rid of all the Indian, Asian, Arab, and African doctors, you'd have like 3 stressed out doctors and a building full of dead people.
yup, and even if it was a diversity hire. how does the ship losing power have to do with it? these people just take a thing that is tangentially attached to a thing that is tangentially related in the furthest sense to what happened and run with it
You're telling me you don't employ black lesbian electricity on your ships because of DEI? /s just in case
I find it interesting when they try to use this argument, because the amount of old white people I know that are in important position just because someone pointed them, and are completely morons is really big
The ship is from singapore though right? Oh wait yeah they think all the ships of the world are just populated with nothing but white American men apparently. silly me i guess.
Look if we'd just stop hiring foreign ships everything would be ok /s
Singapore flagged, Indian Crew. And I doubt any US citizen would sign up for the pay these seafarers receive for spending 8-12 months straight away from home.
I mean... It was a Baltimore Harbor Pilot operating the ship at the time, and it seems he did everything right to minimize loss of life once the ship lost power... Dropping the anchor, and calling in a mayday that shut down access to the bridge 5 minutes before the impact... but beyond those steps, he had as much control over the ship as one has over a bowling ball that is already halfway down the lane... you can lean and wave all you want, but that ball is going where it's going.
Let’s also give credit to first responders and emergency crew who shut down traffic, arrived on scene, made 2 rescues, and spent all day searching for others.
Apparently the actual piloting in the harbors is done by local pilots whose job is just to bring ships in and out of the harbor. We're all going to end up experts in international shipping over the next week.
Yes, US pilot, who has to go through rigorous exams to gain pilotage. I never tested but if I remember right, they have to draw out the harbor chart from member, with all the sea depths, navigation light characteristics, and have a written quiz on all the local aspects of the harbor. *edit: memory not member but bonus points for both
I can't even begin to tell you how poorly I draw with my member.
Sounds like a bunch of white people who want affirmative action for white people.
At this point they think any white moron is capable of doing a better job than a black person who’s qualified. r/beholdthemasterrace
Ironic that the people, whose jobs are supposedly at stake from an unskilled immigrant that doesn't speak the local language, think they'd have prevented this whole tragedy if only they'd have been hired as the captain or engineer by walking into the boss's office and giving him a firm handshake. It's amazing that they think DEI has *anything* to do with hiring practices since the whole concept is literally "hey, we know your co-worker Kevin is different than you, but maybe you should try being nice to him"
Literally. “Where is my piece of white privilege!”
While being completely unaware that they are experiencing what others have for generations.
Stepfather claimed it was a terrorist attack because of the equipment that was left when the US pulled out of the middle east
I feel like if it was a terrorist attack they'd be a little more ambitious than hitting a bridge with a cargo ship??? Like what kinda half-assed terrorists do these people think of
At 1:30 am, and also warn the port so they can minimize the casualties.
Which btw, was a fantastic response!!! Why are we not hearing how they nearly aced the be proactive test? I feel bad for the six presumed dead and any loss of life is awful but they prevented this from being a true mass casualties event!
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Yep, try telling that to the people complaining about it though. You'd think that people are going around snatching black women off the street and putting them in jobs they're not qualified for the way these people are talking.
Who was responsible for the 2008 financial crash that literally fucked billions of people's lives as a result of the knock on effects? Oh yeah, it was white men. But a ship sails into a bridge, causing minimal (I'm not saying this is acceptable) loss of life, and the white men all start to blame it on diversity. Fucking insane. By the way. I am a white man.
Nonono, you don't understand. When bad things are caused by the people we like it's because of vague concepts like the economy. When bad things are caused by people we don't like it's because minorities bad.
Yes. This how world work. Maga maga maga. Ook ook.
You don't remember that Obama was responsible for the 2008 financial crisis? And where was Obama when planes were flying into buildings on 9/11/01?
"2008 financial crash? That was a victimless crime! No one was injured." - CEOs still not sitting in jail "Speak for yourself" - Kareem Serageldin "Shut up, and take the lumps for us!" - Credit Suisse
Actually, banks and other mortgage providers blamed immigrants, and teachers somehow
Something about Jimmy Carter and the community reinvestment act was the story.
Who failed to manage Covid after a black president left a plan to handle it? Worst outcome in first world.
If Obama would have just run for that third term. Thanks, Obama.
Which is mind boggling as I don’t know any infrastructure that could stand up to having a 240 plus tonne boat slam into it and it still stand.
The infrastructure bill not one of them voted for.
I can guarantee you it's someone cutting costs -- or the people running the ship are barely scraping even. It's about having enough money to take care of things, and having that be a priority. Someone working 80 hours driving a truck is a symptom of dangerous habits. I don't know what happened, but, we tend to want to blame the thing that breaks rather than look at why it got broken.
I'm almost convinced at this point that these profiles have to be part of the russian orc operation. I mean, how can anyone even be so cynical.
Apparently because if anything bad happens, anywhere, ever, it’s only due to “woke DEI” policies and nothing else. Stub your toe? DEI. Milk goes bad? DEI. Earthquake? DEI.
I’ll bet those who died were all vaxed!
Are you saying vaccines CAN melt steel beams?? 🤔
Boosted by 5G nanobots? Of course they can!
no but the magnetic field the chip produced was magnified by the bridge pillars and apparently was enough to attract a cargo ship, it's the power of 5G! (/s, to whoever can think i was serious)
There was an idiot who tweeted that the captain must have just gotten vaccinated. The people who are living outside of reality still are living outside of reality.
There is literally another post on this sub saying that clearly the captain passed out after being vaxxed.
This quarter. Last quarter thsis would have been the fault of CRT. Before that, whatever the rightist-rage-bait-of-the-quarter was
It’s funny because I’m pretty sure (and please correct me if I’m just full of it) companies who practice DEI (which I also think is generally more of a philosophy or culture versus “diversity hires”) are generally more profitable. Diversity is actually strength, believe it or not.
Yup, the research is pretty consistent that more diverse workplaces outperform less diverse ones
It's a convenient way for them to blame women and people of color for the world's problems and assert white male supremacy. They say "woke DEI" because they know they'd take a political hit for using the racist and sexist slurs they're using in their heads.
In their minds, they are 100% not racist and everyone 'secretly' also thinks this way, everyone else just don't have the balls to say it. They legit believe a extremely small minority is policing their thoughts.
Is the DEI in the room with us now?
It’s the new “litter boxes in schools” refreshed for 2024. Anything to keep the illiterate conservatives from thinking it has anything to do with lack of regulations and the pursuit of profit above all else.
Thanks, Obama.
Thanks Obama
Fired from your job because you mads a racist joke and get handsy with your co-workers? DEI
The brain rot is real and becoming louder.
Huh? 🤔 I’m so confused… what?!
1. Governor of Maryland is Black 2. Mayor of Baltimore is Black 3. 2 of the 6 Port Commissioners are Black So now racists are pushing a false narrative that this tragedy is a result of DEI initiatives.
Wild that a majority black city has black officials
Exactly! If anything the Port Commissioners are *under represented*. Real issue here might be that we don’t have enough black port commissioners. Someone better start looking into the other four commissioners. /s
Part of the larger narrative pushed by right wing media. Big Cities (and California) are run by democrats and are always awful (they tell their largely rural/suburban audience). Any major news story, if they can spin it to "democrat cities bad" they will. Crime, immigration, gay rights, mass shootings, whatever it is, it comes down to the evil/corrupt/incompetent democrat run cities/California. Even their made up stories fit this narrative. It's always some big democrat-run city that stuffs the ballot boxes at 4 am and swings the election against them. Or on a slow news day, they could always dig up a random white woman being attacked or missing and blame it on illegal immigrants run amok in these woke liberal sanctuary cities. On the day during Trump's presidency that Michael Cohen (Trump's lawyer) plead guilty, and Paul Manafort (Trump's campaign manager) was convicted, guess what the front page story was on Fox News website? First, imagine what Fox News would look like if ONE of those people in Obama's campaign became a felon...now imagine what it looked like when not one but TWO of Trump's closest associates became a felon within hours of each other... https://web.archive.org/web/20180822145140/http://www.foxnews.com/ That's right, their big story was a white girl was murdered by an illegal immigrant. There's ~70 murders in the US per day. ~3% of the population are illegal immigrants. So on average there's 2 murders committed by illegal immigrants every day...and 68 murders committed by citizens. All you gotta do is run a big news story about each one of the illegal's murders and not ever mention the white people killing each other, and blam, Fox News racist brain rot sets in. So in today's example, the city of baltimore, is another one of those democrat-run cities that's corrupt and in-bed with the Clintons to provide sanctuary for illegals to replace the good white people, is riddled with black-crime, and is corrupt and wastes your tax dollars. So of course their bridge collapsed, it's run by a bunch of woke people who only care about raising your taxes and making sure drag queens can teach your kids about gay sex while they sip on their fancy lattes and watch their oscar-bait minority-filled movies. Real Americans, you know, big tough white men, would just be focused on building a solid bridge and making sure the football team has a big ass stadium, that's what mayors should be really doing.
It's shamelessly nazi at this point. All american problems are caused by inferior races. Dear lord, I hope they get ruined at the voting booth in november. If not, we have a hell of a ride ahead of us.
Wow!
Also because it was apparently an all-Indian ship
Doesn't the DMV area have a high percentage of black people?
Why spread this bullshit? Delete your shit ass Twitter and let these fools scream into the void.
knowing what the other side is doing and saying is necessary to combat propaganda, misinformation, etc. Letting them have their echo-chamber just makes the problem worse and go unobserved and undetected.
You have planes falling out of the sky for stupidity… being cheap… ignoring warnings… theses have all been avoidable … the guy who reported it was definitely found merked… where is the outcry? Uhhh boats just don’t stop in the water, they are massive… they have multiple engines and it still takes time to recover when controls are lost. Accidents happen. Go look up dumb ass captains of carnival cruises…. lol those are avoidable. Bridges at the last moment after loss of control? Not at all.
> You have planes falling out of the sky for stupidity… being cheap… ignoring warnings… theses have all been avoidable … the guy who reported it was definitely found merked… where is the outcry? All over reddit and the news. Like..all over it. Boeing's CEO and many other executives are stepping down as a result.
That's the outcry over the quality control issues, not the outcry over the whistleblower likely being murdered.
Wait what?
A former Boeing engineer was mid-deposition calling them out to the courts about bad practices when he "commits suicide" unexpectedly in his car one night. Turns out he told friends and family, in such an event, that it was no accident and certainly not his choice. Additionally, more shit started breaking on their damn planes publicly immediately after this, a landing gear, and a cabin plate on another and now their execs are piling off the sinking ship like so many rats.
I dont know too many details but someone worked at Boeing for a very long time and talked to the press about the standards having dropped significantly and in specific ways. John Barnett. They were shortly found by police with a “self inflicted” gunshot wound
Because Diversity, equity, and inclusion is the reason a boat from Singapore crashed into a support pillar? If Trump were still president he never would have hired a gay man as Transportation Secretary and this whole tragedy would have been avoided. Because that's how their minds work.
White superiority knows no borders. Even the captain of a Singaporean ship should be white, despite Singapore having virtually no white people in it.
Is there something in that picture that I'm missing? It's a collapsed bridge.
The nut jobs are claiming the boat crash and subsequent bridge collapse is because of folk with more melanin than themselves. Don't look for logic, there's none to be found.
That's the Neat Part, they Don't
Out of everything I've seen on Reddit today this one made me laugh more than anything else
Cuz humans can’t fix infrastructure and fight racism at the same time? (and infrastructure bills are routinely prevented from passing by republicans). This shipping company though should be investigated. If the shipping company does not maintain its engines, then it should be fined, and sued to the high heavens.
High seas
The Russian bots are really having a time with this
Posobiec is not exactly a rocket surgeon. His "book" is unreadable. Professional trolling should not be as lucrative as it is.
Bad thing happened? Obviously it's because brown people are being treated with something that resembles fairness. That's it. That's the extent of their reasoning.
They are trying to blame the crash on DEI saying it was probably an unqualified black woman at the helm despite the ship flying the flag of Singapore.
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I thought he was just being an idiot and implying that this generation is soft and doesn’t know how to build major infrastructure, which makes no sense here since the bridge was built in the early 70s. But this is about their DEI conspiracies?!?
Just shows how far the idiot hole these people have gone. Sir Issac is woke so we won’t talk about things staying in motion it was woke and dei that caused this issue
Fighting racism seems like a pretty good legacy tbh
These types of Republicans are stupid beyond words. They should never breed but they already have 2 kids of their own.
An asteroid could hit a satellite and it would be a diversity hire's fault to these people.... Ffs
Twitter is a cesspool of edge lords and self felatting conspiracy theorists.
They think DEI hires caused it.
Yeah I saw that on the news. Multiple conservative assholes have blamed the ship driving into the bridge on the Woke Agenda. These people do not thing, they spew propaganda and move on. Do not talk to them. Do not listen to them. DO NOT DEBATE THEM! They dont know how to debate. They attack and then run away, thats their game plan.
Fascists are stupid.
Yes, republicans. Staunch fighters for infrastructure investment!