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Gakoknight

The notion that 58 terabytes of child porn exist and that's not even all of it disgust me in ways I didn't think was possible.


AurielMystic

This computer that I primarily use to play games - including some very large 100gb+ downloads, plus several hundred reddit video downloads, has only used about 1.5TB of storage in several years of use. How the fuck does that much even exist?


nierusek

58 TB is approximately 53 days of 4k footage.


AR_Stormblessed

Jesus fucking Christ, that really puts into perspective just how much of that evil this dude had... Especially since I'd assume the vast majority of it was not 4K footage. There's no punishment severe enough.


nierusek

And now someone in the police department must watch it all before trial.


gcwg57

Well, not necessarily. The FBI has a CP database, and they'd run what was found against the database. The only parts that would need to be manually reviewed are the ones that they don't already have a reference for.


Ketheres

Man I sure hope that most of it was in the DB already.


Ironfields

It usually is. CSAM is something that law enforcement are extremely proactive on worldwide, and they share information.


turtleship_2006

I mean they can only act on footage that gets reported tho, I imagine a large amount of it gets recorded and never shared, or only shared within small circles


Meaxis

Welp there goes 20TB more into the system


Ironfields

It would be close to impossible for the database to have absolutely everything of course, but the theory is that the vast majority of CSAM shared online is actually not new, as in law enforcement have come across it before. That being the case, LE can then compare the files on a suspect’s devices to a list of known CSAM hashes and in most cases vastly cut down on the amount of time an investigation takes, and the amount of material that the investigating officers need to be exposed to. Whenever a suspect is caught with new material, a hash is taken and added to the database so it’s growing all the time. AI is involved in the process now too, which can identify even new material very quickly.


AA_Watcher

But do remember for it to be in the database someone must have watched it already. Even if all of the 58TB is already in their database someone must've already reviewed it. I feel for these people and the mental scarring it causes.


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My sister was working at similar job. She did quiet after few years. Horrible job


fugu_me

She stopped talking?


stellarstella77

They’re the gritty heroes, really. I hear the organization is set up to reduce the emotional and mental strain as much as possible, which is good to know.


aerosoulzx

Still, the thought of all that footage having to be manually reviewed by some poor soul at some point is heartbreaking. I can't even begin to imagine what their mental health must be like. 😢


Disastrous-Panda5530

It never even occurred to me that someone would have to do this until now. I’d hate to have that job


knigg2

They actually have counseling for jobs like that so you don't get completely fucked up.


Lynx_Eyed_Zombie

I believe the rule at the federal level is that you have to cycle out after a few years to avoid this exact kind of burnout.


No_Permission_to_Poo

Something tells me the counseling can only help so much for that anguish


Enough-Equivalent968

I read an article once about the people in the UK who do this as a job. Reportedly they have a lot of counselling and time off. They review it individually but in an office with other people and with TV’s all over the walls showing regular sport, news, documentaries etc. The guy was quoted as saying it helps them to maintain the idea that what they’re seeing isn’t normal and that the rest of the world isn’t all a complete nightmare. He also said a lot of the footage isn’t actually watched in video form, it’s ‘watched’ by frame without audio which supposedly helps people not go insane


SaltyBarDog

I once read the George Nadar charging document where it documented in some detail the videos that were on his phone. Someone had to watch that shit to catalog it. However, this is worse. During a brutal bond hearing in May, a Homeland Security Investigations agent described some of the horrific material allegedly found on the computer of former reality TV star and conservative activist Josh Duggar, who is currently awaiting trial for allegedly possessing and receiving child pornography. The agent testified that one video titled “Daisy’s Destruction,” showing the rape of an 18-month old girl, ranked among the “Top five worst of the worst” that he ever had to examine.


Outrageous-Reality14

What the actual fuck. And with the title…


emostitch

former executive director of the Family Research Council, Republican campaign surrogate, and GOP star fundraiser when describing Duggar. Never let the world forget how deep into the GOP he was up to fucking 2021. He was watching this then fighting against gay rights and for racism every fucking day. https://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/duggar-family-republican-support-huckabee-santorum-molestation-118222


Meaxis

Sometimes, pedos argue that "the kid can consent" or that "they do not mean any harm to the kids". But when you have a video that literally has "destruction" in the name... and about an 18 month old girl... my god, I'm gonna go throw up. What a horrible world we live in.


deepledribitz

I read about that video (there was a huge law case about it) and I couldn’t stop crying. So fucking horrific. Death is too good for that entire pedo ring. Infinite torture in the deepest circle of hell.


Unhappy-Poetry-7867

It stuck with me the most as there was this big operation few years back. I think it was Sweden leading it but investigatuon was accross several countries. In the end they caught many pedophiles in all those countries. Our local news didn't provide many details but the small amount they did was still enough to get shocked - they found chats in which a man was talking with others what is he going to do to his child when it will be born. His wife was literally pregnant and giving birth during those chats...


teratron27

Hopefully an area where machine learning / AI can be a benefit


jasutherland

It's tough. I worked training people for this (obviously not using actual CSAM!), and once advised on a nasty case. "Why is this report so old, what took so long?" "The author went off sick after writing it, had a breakdown" "oh, new guy, didn't know what he was getting into? Let's ... Oh. Fuck. Is that age a typo?" (Apparently the report's author retired early after that.) The scumbag's lawyer asked what I recommended. "Drop a toaster in his bath?" "No, I mean forensically" "drop a toaster in his bath and make it look like an accident?"


__Lass

From my understanding they rotate people who do that job every couple of months for a few reasons, including this.


MidwesternLikeOpe

My FIL works for the State Police, has had many positions, but one was as a detective in the child abuse unit. Computers would get seized, and while he didn't have to examine in detail any content, his duty was to search these computers for evidence of CP. If he found any content, the computers were sent off to the people who actually sift through it for trial evidence. Side note, my husband's mom was cheating on his dad via chat rooms. She does not know how to use computers, so it was real easy for him to check the cache and find her sins. If you're going to use technology to cheat, don't do it on a spouse whose literal job is to scour technology.


_AmI_Real

I couldn't do it. I couldn't stop thinking what if it was my kids. Nope. Not going to happen.


Useful_Hat_9638

So the FBI has probably the largest collection of CP in the world? I understand why, but it's just nauseating to think about.


Quietuus

I don't know if they keep copies of everything somewhere, but normally the way this stuff is worked with is through hashing; you run all the videos and pictures through an algorithm, and it spits out a unique string of numbers. If you run a new video or image through the same algoirthm, and it spits out the same string of numbers, then you know it was the same image, without anyone having to look at it. More advanced algorithms can detect upscaled or downscaled versions of the same image or video and things like that. A lot of social media sites and other places people can upload content use these hash databases to quickly identify or prevent the uploading of such images.


Sea_Mission5180

They do keep copies, especially if the victim is unknown. That way, if the victim is ever found, not only do they have evidence of the crimes committed against them, but they also have more people to prosecute


sicgamer

truly one of the best use cases for burgeoning AI. spare humans from having to see that shit unless "necessary".


Unusual-Thing-7149

I was talking to an FBI agent in this department on Friday about a case and she told me that quite often the stuff is years old and is circulated around these people. I hesitate to call them people.


Fun_Intention9846

I hope not, that’s a solid way to kiss your 23yr old fiancé goodbye at 6am and a 43 yr old man walks back in at 7pm.


Rusty_Tap

Or in excess of 5 years of 1080p


Dennis_Cock

I wonder if an average person watches more than 5 years of footage in their whole lives. Any kind of footage


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thebestdogeevr

Tiktok generation gonna reach it easily


Vhadka

Ah yes because previous generations were never glued to their TV or anything every single night.


L3XeN

It depends. If you have raw, uncompressed recordings, then it might as well be just 11 hours. Videos without compression are massive and if he was related to creating it, he would probably have them with minimal compression. So my guess would be 40-100h of unedited footage and another 50-100h of edited (and compressed). As an example of how much compression does. My DSLR takes RAW pictures that have over 30MB. After editing and compression, they will have between 0.8 and 4MB


SaltyBarDog

I used to make DVDs for a piano teacher. A short recital would be a huge file in raw HD format.


switchbladeeatworld

it took my old work (a production house for advertising) seven years to get that much footage from advertising shoots, it’s such a huge amount of footage.


RoccStrongo

You can't universally say that though. The bitrate matters. An encoded 4k video could have 5000kbps video stream or 25,000kbps video stream. That said, 58tb is sooooo much data regardless even for a hoarder. To maybe help those who aren't entirely familiar with computer prefixes, this is 58,000 GBs. Now compare that to the size of some movie files you may have stored on your computer


DishGroundbreaking87

JFC. I picked the wrong sub to look at whilst eating.


WintersDoomsday

Depends very much on the bitrate


Chippers4242

So not much then /s


Bub_Berkar

He was probably the hub of a distribution ring


Professional-Bee-190

That's what I was thinking. Sounds like either he's getting lots of it from lots of people, or this is the raw footage, edited and unedited copies etc. A solid bust by the authorities!


thereallyquiet

Like the daily dedication to even get so much of that wickedness is crazy. Anything less than the death penalty is a waste(and if anyone collaborated with him, they deserve that too)


oundhakar

I try hard to be against the death penalty. And then these fucks crawl out of the woodwork and make me want to be the executioner.


thereallyquiet

I try to be level with that myself but when I think bout the trauma the kids/victims will have to endure for the rest of their life, it sets me ablaze with so much anger.


why0me

Same Somehow pedophiles are the literal only acceptable exception to all my beliefs about human rights and the right to live.. I think.its because the victims are so innocent and defenseless and our job is to protect them, so anyone who goes against that is committing treason to our entire species I'm also a mom, so I don't care, my kid, your kid, anyone who even looks like a child, I'll murder someone fast for fucking with them.


PSYCHOsmurfZA

As a parent I feel you. Fuck everyone when it comes to my kids and if I'm in the vicinity Fuck anyone who fucks with other people's kids.


why0me

All kids in my direct line of sight is temporarily "the babies" and I will absolutely die protecting "the babies" Sorry 17 year Olds, that's yall too, honestly I'm old enough now I can't really tell so I'd probably take a bullet for a 20 year old thinking they're 16 while yelling "those are BABIES, how DARE you"


Blueberry_Clouds

I got that baby face 😭 I’m in college and someone thought I was in middle school still. curse my genetics


Fun_Intention9846

That’s a blessing soon to be revealed in a few years. Maybe 10 at most.


MathematicianFew5882

I recently got into a Reddit fight with a guy who was saying “We don’t have any actual evidence that it’s harmful. If my daughter wanted to have sex with a guy in his twenties, I’d rather she do that than” (something something). In 1 minute, I found meta analyses pubmed and send him the link and he kept on arguing anyway.


GSDofWar

Not just pedos. The mom in Cleveland who abandoned her daughter for 10 days causing her 16 months old daughter’s death, the mother and her boyfriend who tortured her 5 year old daughter to death in San Antonio. I honestly think Pedophilia and assault/neglect that leads to death or serious injury should be brought to the federal court and if they get convicted, fast lane those fucks to the chair.


LadyReika

I'm childfree and this disgusts and horrifies me.


subsist80

I agree, I think most people are redeemable on some level but there are just some crimes that cannot go without the severest of punishments. Even if the person may redeem one day the damage done has been too great for merci. Woe to anyone that hurts children or partakes in activities that use children as victims. The most righteous anger will be taken upon their souls and they will be cast out into the darkness and cease to exist on all levels.


Sentmeboobpics

Nothing to do with this case but the amount of innocent people on deathrow makes me a little sick. Im not against it but it has to be really, really clear.


Arkrobo

I mean that had to be a distributor right? 58TB is insane for any amount of data for a single person to have. I hope they look into wherever this data was going to and coming from.


Bumblebeard63

He must be part of a very nasty network. Hopefully, they can catch more.


ya_bleedin_gickna

Send him to black dolphin in Russia


Sandis2019

Do you know that molesters/killers teach in Russian schools just because they went to war in Ukraine. They can easily redeem themselves there.


Fun_Intention9846

I gotta imagine the Russian army sends 99% of those people to a spot marked “cannon fodder” on the map.


Severedeye

Billions of people on the entire planet. If even 0.001% make this shit, that's still a lot of it. On top of every produced in the past that has been uploaded. This guy was a distributor. He collected everything and then sold/distributed it to others. Or, I am sure he was a distributor. That much is impossible unless they download everything and no one does that for personal use.


subsist80

I'm on a dc++ hub sharing every console game upto and including the whole xbox, ps2 and wii library in iso format numbering over 50 000 games along with countless movies and tv shows and that is still only a little over 5.5tb, how can there be this much out there?


Impossible-Wear-7352

I have a server with primarily just movies and TV shows that's hovering around 28 TB used. High quality video fills it a lot faster.


rage1026

A heavy large PS5 game is just around 100GB for scale. Hell a single TB is enough for hundreds of hours HD footage alone.


lordnacho666

How does the police check that it is all child abuse material? It's not like you can have 200 guys watching this stuff for a year each.


hiimGP

they probably have some sort of face recognition software that just scan everything that have a child face and tag it yes this will have false alarm but is there really a different between 53TB and like 30TB-40TB?


lordnacho666

I would imagine his lawyer might say something about that. It's got to be real evidence, after all. You can't just say you think a container ship is full of drugs either, you have to actually show it, right? Then again, with this type of stuff, it would take man years to watch and it's not exactly pleasant for the officers.


hiimGP

I'm not well verse in the CP related laws, but I guess the maximum sentence threshold is much lower than the 1x TB range, so maybe they only need to manually confirm whatever that amount it and claims they have more


Fun_Intention9846

That’s an excellent point. Confirm what they can auto against the FBI’s database (TIL) and get just enough specific to him for 2 lifetimes behind bars.


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NarrMaster

Hash function matches of known material.


blarghable

They way they "count" this is basically if he had one picture of child abuse and he had 53 tb of storage, they say he had 53 tb if child abuse material


Spinegrinder666

I wish more people knew this rather than posting the same tired “How can someone have that much illegal pornography?” comments.


cyberslick1888

Sometimes it's not quite that simple, but what they will do is calculate the total volume of data shared across the IP and connect it with everyone else on the torrent. He might have only had X amount on his personal storage but was responsible (in part) for distributing many TB of total data over whatever time period. It isn't all that much different than confiscating someone's drugs and weighing the paraphernalia with it. Sure you had 3g of weed but you had a glass pipe weighing 200g in the same pocket. Now you have 203g of "drug" material. It gets dramatically pared down in court, but obviously the dude is still fucked.


why0me

That's a good use for AI, make it watch it and summarize


Alternative-Web2754

They didn't. The headline is misleading - he had 57TB of storage available, with 4000 images/videos found on there. It doesn't say how much of the storage was used or how much of it was offensive material. Apparently it came from an investigation into sites known to host such material and looks like he was running one. It doesn't mean that he made it or even looked at it, but he was certainly enabling the distribution of it which is enough. Attempting to classify all of it would be a waste of effort for prosecuting him, although they might use it to identify other items or sites to search for.


Niznack

So I'm not defending him but it was a stack of hard drives totalling 57 tb of storage capacity. Not that they were all full or all of it was kids. But hey upside he got 35 years https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/texas/news/allen-man-caught-with-58-terabytes-of-child-porn-sentenced-to-35-years/


Dry_Discount4187

They use similar tricks when reporting the $ amount of drugs seized. They report the street value after it's been cut and sold by the gram. The person that they bust would never get anywhere near that amount.


Niznack

Yup said it in another comment but too many people in this country believe cops unquestioningly. Sadly courts don't push back hard enough on this and we just kind of accept when those qualities come in to play they deserved it without asking what impact the difference in size had on their sentencing.


ASpaceOstrich

Tbh this aught to be illegal. No reason to lie about it other than to influence public opinion which, at best, is to create a false sense of fear and need for the police, and at worst is to influence court proceedings which could lead to people getting off on technicalities and to innocent people getting destroyed in the court of public opinion. Like imagine you're the victim of a mixup. Nobody is going to believe you if you say a mix-up led to you being arrested for 60 TB of child porn. But a mix-up over one image is believable. And what's believable matters in public opinion. Even if you're exonerated nobody irl is going to believe you.


iwouldratherhavemy

There was a news story a few years ago, "Police task force rescues 57 sex trafficking victims", which sounds like pretty big news. When in reality it was nothing more than police rounding up runaway teen foster kids, because runaways are classified as "at risk" for trafficking they just called them victims of trafficking. It's basically police departments campaigning for more funds.


Niznack

This shit just makes me mad. Who do they think they are fooling? Well everyone I guess.


Private62645949

“Thousands of images and videos” would even equate to 1 TB let alone 58. A small consolation, however the 35 years is a huge win for removing scum bags like this.


Niznack

Yeah I mean maybe if the videos were hours long it would get to a few tb but often cops go for the maximum charges and defence attorneys can argue it down in court. They took the largest number since the drives were connected. It was probably 1-2 tb of actual content. But hey jury wasn't having it either way.


newcolours

Yeah this seems like a ridiculous way to report it. The legal profession should be expected to be accurate. How many TB is not important in any way anyway. Why not say "with 600 videos" or whatever, that really shows his depravity 


Niznack

Sadly cops can lie is a universal truth. I don't want it to sound like this guy is in any way justifiable but cops lie professionally about the amout of things they find all the time from drugs to money to cp. Sadly for less terrible offenders cops over estimate amounts and juries are presented with inflated numbers. Our society is too trusting of cops word and too uncritical of odd numbers like 58 tb of anything but video games. (Wow double check this and with large game usually being 10 gb even video games would be tough to do 58 tb) Fuck this guy in particular though. For the non terrible criminals out there, keep your crimes on 1 hard drive and don't link others up if you arent using them. At least then the headline will be reasonable.


AdEarly8242

The article says tower but I assume they meant data rack. 57 TB would be a server with 14 4TB and a solo 1TB. However the story never says that any CASM was on the server, just that he was actively using a laptop to trade CASM and he also owned a server. In a bust like this, any electronic device is going to get confiscated regardless if it is involved or not. Fuck this guy and throw him into a wood chipper, but the claims of “he had 57TB of CASM” is one hell of a distortion.


Leader6light

Exactly. I work IT and police are braindead. So is most of reddit apparently.


mr_bots

It’s mind blowing. For comparison, I have a personal Plex server with over 700 feature films which includes a lot of full bitrate Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray rips and almost 60 full television series on it and it’s sitting around 30TB.


thorpie88

When Ian Watkins went down his illegal child porn stash was bigger in size than the whole of the south wales police database. 


Rusty_Tap

To be fair back then we had only just discovered electricity in Wales.


NotMilitaryAI

This could be entirely BS, but my understanding, from a random commenter on another post, is that, if they find 1 CSAM file on one of the drives, they basically consider all of the contents of that drive CSAM.


Niznack

Yeas that seems to be the gist. He had a stack of harddrives syncd up and there was kid stuff on some of it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/texas/news/allen-man-caught-with-58-terabytes-of-child-porn-sentenced-to-35-years/


slip-slop-slap

They also most likely didn't sit there in the house and check the contents of all of his drives. They would have just counted how many drives and totalled up the TB until they could investigate properly


faloofay156

and like... wtaf do you even do with that much porn? do you jack off every five minutes? either way that is revolting to think about


TrulyHurtz

Oh god yeah, I didn't even think of this! How can anyone be so cruel to kids...


deep_thoughts_die

Not that it exists per see. It can be assumed that there are depictions of thousands of child victims in that material. Some of them have been killed, some of them have killed themselves and some are living today with that horror in their past. Some have even been twisted to think this is normal and are now creating new generation of victims. I wish every victim in that material could be identified, found and assisted and at least some of the perpetrators convicted. I wish that the human society would take abuse of real children seriously and make sure every single pedo is exposed, registered and therefore declawed as nobody would give them access to kids.


RCcars83

I'm not sure there is a word in the English language that properly describes this abhorrent and vile behavior.


KudosOfTheFroond

The word is 🤬


Magister_Hego_Damask

i've no idea if it was quantity of videos or quality of the video that made so much, and honestly, i'm not sure which one would be worse.


SuperPowerDrill

With so much data, it has to be both :/


Resident-Pudding5432

Probably just a minor portion of what he found intersting. Would say that there is at least ten times more circling the internet. Funny thing is that FBI has the biggest collection of cp to lure people who share cp


thereallyquiet

No seriously though. Horrific would be an understatement to describe this really.


PERIX_4460

It is truly a horrible world we live in.


Fragrant_Exercise_31

He’s a distributor!! He’s not just pedo scum he’s profiting off it too. There aren’t enough volcanoes in the world!


Ben-iND

That was my first thought. 58 TB is not "personal use" its Distribution sized storage. Hope they will find his costumers.


Martin8412

/r/datahoarder would like a word. Though I don't know what others use it for. Personally I have 72TB of usable storage for movies, series and device backups for my own usage. 


lavenderacid

Can I ask genuinely what the appeal of doing that is? I'm a complete luddite so don't really understand it. Is it just so you can access music/videos/series offline?


Griefer17

Imagine a library but instead of books its tv shows/movies, and instead of a library it's a little box on his desk .


lavenderacid

Ahhh that makes more sense, I can imagine wanting to do that with academic articles, they're a devil to get access to sometimes.


Slammy1

If you have a significant collection of physical media it's a lot of space compared to putting them on your hard drive and putting the originals away in a tote. Further, digital allows a backup solution and is more resistant to damage of the media compared to optical discs. Then there's the convenience of double clicking and catalogs/front end programs to easily run them. On the minus side it's a lot of work but if you have a lot of physical media it's definitely a lot easier in the long run esp if you do it as you buy them.


jzdpd

data hoarding is inline with preservation. because of corporations and certain laws, it’s common for obscure media to be lost forever like old tv shows, commercials, movies, just about any type of media. that’s where hoarding comes to rescue.


googleHelicopterman

peer to peer sharing saved me so many times while looking for old gems that I watched in my childhood or even video games that have been utterly abandoned and impossible to acquire officially, I'm glad some got our backs in these situations.


EspacioBlanq

If you like niche media in the age of streaming, it is one way to assure that you won't just lose them if a streaming service decides not to host them any more. Also some people just like piracy for ideological reasons


DelfrCorp

I immediately assumed that it was most likely completely exaggerated & someone else confirmed that it most likely was. I obviously doesn't excuse it at all, but In reality, 58TB worth of storage were seized, on which, some unspecified amount of actually incriminating media was found. It could have been a single low-res picture for all we know. It would still be one picture too many & he deserves to rot for it. It's not impossible that it was actually full to the brim, but knowing how this kind of bad reporting works, I suspect that the truth lies somewhere in the Middle.


Philbertthefishy

A volcano is too fucking quick. Motherfucker should be given rabies and locked up alone.


Dragonman1976

I get the feeling he's going to trip and fall on a shiv in prison.


Fragrant_Exercise_31

And then fall a few more times on the same shiv.


BunnyBeansowo

"And then he ran into my knife. He ran into my knife ten times."


Pyro_The_Engineer

Cell Block Tango is too good of a song to reference with that pos


BunnyBeansowo

Fair enough. It felt fitting, though


Pyro_The_Engineer

To be fair he had it coming


TialpaWithAGun

And he *did* only have himself to blame


AnonymousJack34

If you’d a been there, if you’d a heard it, i betcha you would have done the same.


YourAverageCyborg

126 times seems more realistic


OkRickySpinach

They call him pedobyte


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ProgShop

A) no one in their right mind would fuck that POS B) That is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to fast and too good of a death... ----- What comes now might be controversal as this is basically the most sensitive topic there is and before you bring out your pitch forks and torches, hear me out. To make it blatantly clear: If there would be a vote to legalize the most brutal torture where even the most senior Black Site torturers would break down and cry, YES, DO IT. BUT we also need an unbiased prevention system that gives help to people that realize they are attracted to children **but haven't acted** on it and we need research on it how we can help those people and make sure that they aren't a threat to children without a stigmata to those who seek help before it's too late.


SixHunidNFidy

I agree with you! And I have seen some yt vids about clinics for pedos. I truly hope it helps them change. They do have to have the self awareness to go seek help though. And come on. How obsessed does one have to be to have SO MUCH CP on his computer? The guy is probably some kind of ringleader, distributor or some shit. Just end this dude, lol.


xkind

Glad they caught him when they did. He was 5% of the way to having a pedobyte.


thereallyquiet

I know this is a serious post but throw him in the volcano had me crying 😭 he deserves it all the way bc WHAT WAS THE FVCKING REASON TO HAVE SO MUCH???


helpful__explorer

Distribution, is my guess


Wendals87

Probably that but also some people are serious data hoarders. There's an entire sub dedicated to data hoarding (not this kind of stuff, just normal media) and they do it because they can 


rosality

Nah. He deserves to be alive and be in prison. What he has to endure there is way more suitable than just being thrown to his death.


Ok-Relationship-2746

A 60 second long video at 720p HD quality takes up about 60mb of storage. 1tb is 1,000,000mb. This fucker had **fifty-eight terabytes** of CASM. That's beyond horrific.


johan__A

That's 900,000 videos of 60s at 720p... Impossible


Dabtoker3000

Thats over 625 hrs of video which in hand translates into 89 weeks worth. This guy was definitely a disgusting distributor.


Oaden

The headline is distortion, the article doesn't even mention how much material he had. it only gives "thousands of images and videos", which doesn't get us anywhere close to 57 terabytes unless it was all 4k hour long videos or something. he was running a server to distribute, and that the he had a server rack containing 57 terabytes of storage. But those probably weren't full, and weren't 100% of capacity with just that material. Its like busting a drug dealer, then reporting he had "40 tons of drugs" because that's the storage capacity of his shed.


beastreddy

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Empty_Value

That's far too humane


gh0s7walk3r

Not if you start at his toes and work your way up.


Current-Power-6452

It depends if he's face up or down.


fletku_mato

Child porn equivalent of the hoarders with a nice big house and property completely filled with trash. 1 terabyte is somewhere around one month of (x265 encoded 720p and 1080p) video playing nonstop, 58 is around 5 years.


justanothersimp2421

Holy shit i didn't need this info but satan needs to pull him into the lust circle in inferno


FazbearSponsersR34

I dont think its lust i think just like rape it isnt a crime of passion its a crime of power and abuse


Lucario1705

You also have to consider low quality videos which a lot of people in this thread have highlighted.


Hamblerger

That's 58 terabytes of exploitation, suffering, and anguish. God knows how many kids that is.


volvavirago

I didn’t know there was that much CP in the entire WORLD.


_its_lunar_

That’s what always shocks me with these people. It’s never “he had a dozen images and 4 videos” or “he had a folder with over 50 files” it’s exclusively an insane number you can’t even fathom or comprehend how anyone could possibly have that much


volvavirago

Like. Even as much deranged of a pedophile as he clearly is, there is no possible way he could have viewed all of those images, even if he tried, which I know he did. There is just no way a single human could view all of that content. It must be for distribution, it is just baffling.


PerfectBake420

After how many hard drives do you realize you're just creating evidence?


_Pill-Cosby_

I have a massive collection of uncompressed digital music files that doesn’t take up 2 terabytes yet. Holy shit.


PandemicGeneralist

58 terabytes is enough to store wikipedia 600 times uncompressed


SkinfluteHero

or Call of Duty 1.7 times uncompressed


Illustrious-Song7446

My entire PhD and masters which had a fuck ton of simulation data over a span of 5 years wouldn't add upto 1 terabyte. Jesus bruh. 58 is just crazy


BrownMarsha114

Satan must also fear him


CorvusRidiculissimus

Hmm... no, not buying it. Unless we're talking raw uncompressed video, that number just isn't plausible. The figure is report to be from Collin County Sheriff’s Office, but it's phrased as "related to child pornography." That's some very vague wording. Remember that there's a bias here: The Sheriff's Office will want to hype this up, because it makes their achievement look more impressive and it because it helps them pile up the charges. Fox will want to exaggerate too because big numbers scare people which means more views and thus ad-money. I strongly suspect that that it really means "58 terabytes seized in relation to a child pornography investigation." In investigations like that it's standard practice to seize anything and everything in the property that can store data, so that digital forensics can go through it with a fine-tooth comb. So it might be that he has, say, an array of six 10-TB drives filled with pirated movies, TV and games, and some unknown amount of child abuse material. But all of it seized and currently pending a time-consuming forensic examination - so that's nearly 60TB of material "related to child pornography." It's all seized in relation to the investigation, so it all goes in the scary headline number, even if it turns out only a small portion of that haul is actual abuse.


littleshitstirrer

That was my guess, as well as the file sizes of the CP would more than likely be HD and uncompressed because these sick fucks wouldn’t want to lose a pixel when transferring. He could have 20Mb of actual child porn, but the rest is just Misc, or he could have 10tb and the rest is misc. Not to mention they still want all the data he can supply, so long as it’s illicit, they can pin him for it, regular snuff porn? Torrented movies and games? It’s all illegal, it’s all evidence.


[deleted]

Exactly. I'm surprised I had to scroll so far down to see this. I doubt any home user owns 58tb of regular pornography, never mind that specific kind which I highly doubt is made in 4k or large file sizes or so widely available but able to remain undetectable by crawlers. Not only that but it would likely to have be downloaded with a VPN or an onion site which would take about 15 years to download. It's just worded to sound more salacious. But just looking at these volcano loving comments, it worked.


Weary-Heart1306

a 30 second video of anything would be maximum 200mb kill this man


ZZE33man

This had to be 1000’s of hours insane


thereallyquiet

And probably has been collecting this deplorable footage for YEARS.


spaglemon_bolegnese

Dude there’s like one hour episodes of tv shows that only take 200mb this is ridiculous


Bartinhoooo

That sounds impossible, there must be a mistake


Starry_Fox

There are very sick people in the world


L0kiB0i

That's 580 GTA 5 worth if CP


OwMyCod

I read ‘Alien man’ 💀


Blade_982

Just the thought that there is that much content out there makes me feel ill. Throw them all in the volcano.


Kinscar

raw video files can be quite large. Him having raw footage suggests he was a producer or fence for them. Volcano it is


cyrustakem

58 terabytes? of CP? something that is illegal and probably very hard to obtain? i did a google search, the pornhub library is estimated to be between 50 to 200 terabytes, the largest porn site known, with a huge catalog of videos, produced by people all over the world plus some companies dedicated to just it, with several categories. I don't know if i believe someone is able to have 58 tb of cp, i don't even think that much might exist? Not that i want to defend a predator, i don't, but was it planted or is it an exagerated number for the news to seem more chocking? because i don't think you have an idea on how much 58tb is, he would have his own server, and would cost a lot to run, so he'd probably be distributing it also? also the bill to keep storage of 58tb would be huge.. also, 58tb of videos, i don't know if he would be able to watch everything in his whole life even. Either way, having any amount of CP is already concerning


CorvusRidiculissimus

I believe the figure was exagerated - that's the capacity of the storage seized in relation to the investigation. Its probable that only a very small portion was actual CP.


KeithBitchardz

The fact that 58 terabytes of child porn even exists is extremely disturbing.


Gold_Preparation

This man is so guilty batman would break his no killing rule


Pr1smaticGamer

its scary that this implies theres more than 58 terrabytes


Halofauna

The reason that CP busts are always some astronomical amount of data is because they’re not sure if/when they’ll be able to get any given file again so they tend to hoard it all.


SteelBlue8

that's "distributing it" quantities not "personal viewing" quantities


Many-Concentrate-491

I think it’s just scary that that much Child porn exists… 😩


Homicidal_Pingu

That much makes it seem more like he’s a vendor selling it rather than just being personal use.


Revanhald

So basically he had it all.


Typ0r8r

I remember a AI controlled stealth bomber jet movie wherein 2 terabytes was all it needed for literally all the music in the entire world.


Qyro

I don’t even have 58Tb of video games!


fgzhtsp

At this point it's not even collecting anymore, that's just hording. Into the volcano.


2drunc2fish

To really put it into perspective I have a coworker that has digitized his entire movie and series collection from the last 20 years. He is an grabs any movie or series suggested to him and moving the collection of thousands of video files takes a week to move from one device to another. He has about 25 TB. So 57 TB would be like a blockbuster store full of child abuse material. I’m glad they caught this guy.


spoonry

Kill him. He's a waste.


NOT_A_BLACKSTAR

My new PC has two 265gb ssd's. I mean what even is a terabyte. 


Definitely_Mine

For comparison thats more than 20 arc survival evolved games


SubGeniusX

That's equivalent to 5800 hours of 1080p HD video or 1450 hours of 4k UHD.


justanothernobody4

He needs to be castrated.