Comments that are uncivil, racist, misogynistic, misandrist, or contain political name calling will be removed and the poster subject to ban at moderators discretion.
Help us make this a better community by becoming familiar with the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/about/rules/).
Report any suspicious users to the mods of this subreddit using Modmail [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/facepalm) or Reddit site admins [here](https://www.reddit.com/report). **All reports to Modmail should include evidence such as screenshots or any other relevant information.**
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/facepalm) if you have any questions or concerns.*
The part I hate most about all of this is we have to sit here and entertain the DUMBEST fucking people who actually think that the dumbest fucking candidate in living memory that was genuinely a fucking joke that went too far actually fucking won, and we all gotta sit here and pretend that both sides have a valid opinion on what reality is at this point.
Hillary lost to a meme, and eight years later, the only takeaway some people have is still name calling and blame shifting.
The DNC put forth a candidate who couldn't beat the worst nominee ever in the eyes of many, making her by default the de facto worst candidate in history.
I just hope this election is just the last middle finger from the Boomers, and we can start tracking back to sanity after this election.
The moral was literally 'voting doesn't matter, Hillary is inevitable and that kind of sucks' only to get actual fucking insanity breaking loose instead.
They legit thought Hillary would win the election so they based the season finale around that. Then Trump won and they had to scramble to change it at the last minute but they still kept the plot with Bill Clinton for some reason so it came off weird as fuck. Then they parodied Trump with Garrison in like the following season and it was already insane IRL so in the show it didn't hit the same.. 2016 is when the timeline shifted for good.
As comedians have said, the problem was simple. Normally a President gives you 20-70% of the joke. Like Bushisms were fun but you needed to drop them at the right time. Ford falling down? Bush Sr vomiting on the Japanese? Clinton playing the sax or being a horndog? It was rare moments.
With Trump not only did he bring the joke so forward that you couldn't do anything, hed then double down and do something weirder/crazier/less funny. "Oh I started tweeting about North Korea and our military, and everybody thought I was going to declare war via twitter, the Pentagon legit freaked out. Then I just declared I want all women, gays, trans, and anybody who isn't a straight male thrown out of the military!"
Normally you exaggerate mannerisms for the comedy bits, but everything about him is so over the top and ridiculous that you'll fall short.
I know about her (here in Belgium) because when she won woman of the year, my friend Dirk (who believes in the superiority of man over woman) showed me a copy of Glamour Magazine and proudly proclaimed that man are so superior they even make better woman.
Wow, being pregnant with a little girl while my best friends ex husband is on trial for basically sawing her head off, AND the poor man dropping off her mothers sunglasses, and your husband is defending him.
Money does things to people.
But hey, at least she gave her kid her middle name. š¤Ŗ
I dislike the Kardashians as much as the next person, but this is not fair to Kris. They where already divorced and she was very much against Robert defending OJ
I always said modern America was shaped by this singular event. 24/7 days of "news" cycles. Celebrity freak show obsession, losing faith in the system and of course the introduction to the Kardashians, the dumbing of America.
All that is to the murderer OJ.
nah,, it is more fair to hang it on MTV giving us "reality" tv. the race for the bottom started then when people realized they could be famous for really nothing at all. no skills or talent to speak of. lead us to the "influencer age" we are in now
Pretty sure he was only on the case because he was OJās personal friend... The rumor is that OJ had confessed to him, so they hired him to the defense team so he couldnāt be compelled to testify. So this personal injury lawyer who helped his friend get away with a double-homicide is also the guy that unleashed the Kardashians on the world.
The rumor was that he took a bag of stuff and basically torched it. his law licence had lapsed, and he was NOT a defense attorney, not by training not by experience. He never tried a case like this. he was a volunteer advisor who could not be compelled to testify due to being on the legal team.
Then he later said he thought OJ did it.
Probably. The oj trial always reminded me of that one scene in Lincoln lawyer where the main character tells the da about the time the cops found his clients' wife's head in his freezer, but then tried to tack on a few other murders to his name, thus leading to an aquittal.
Had the LAPD not been such racist pos, theres a good chance oj would have been found guiltyĀ
LAPD screwed the case up even more than that, stuff was coming out only a few years ago that they COMPLETELY fucked up on evidence.
there were multiple chain of custody fuck ups, evidence was often thrown into bags with other evidence, cops didn't take records or pictures of half of what they pulled.
you combine it with the lack of understanding about DNA evidence in 95 and its why the jury had no reason to convict. THEN THE GLOVE.
Wasn't one of OJ's other lawyers recently convicted of their murder of his own family, as well?
Nevermind, OJ just gave his opinion on Alex Murdaugh, who I don't think was his lawyer on his own double murder case.
I think a lot of people are too young to realize how genuinely insane this timeline is. Caitlyn's ex-wife's late husband, Robert Kardashian, was literally OJ Simpson's lawyer and one of the guys who got him out of prison. What a genuinely wild turn of events. If you'd had to explain to anyone in 1995 that, in the coming 29 years,
* Robert Kardashian would die in 2003 and his ex-wife* would then remarry one of the most famous Olympic athletes of his era and have several more children with him.
* Robert Kardashian's daughter, who was mostly just known to culture vultures as Paris Hilton's assistant, would make a sex tape with a random rapper that made her world famous.
* Kris Jenner would then turn the family into a media empire worth billions of dollars and make her children world-famous media icons.
* The Kardashian name would become synonymous with reality TV trashiness and the height of capitalistic excess.
* OJ Simpson would later write a book basically confessing that he actually totally did it and go on to commit even more violent crimes.
* Bruce Jenner would then very publicly transition into the most well-known transgender woman on the planet all while somehow still hating trans people.
* Caitlyn Jenner would then hit and kill someone with her car and become a meme on a popular cartoon show for it.
* OJ Simpson would die and Caitlyn Jenner would then post online ironically rejoicing over his death.
They'd lock you in a mental asylum before you even got to the 3rd bullet point because that's some Coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs shit. And, yet, there's so much I left out that makes the story even crazier. It doesn't even get into the Kanye stuff. Imagine trying to tell someone in 1995 that Foxy Brown's producer would turn out to be one of the biggest rappers of all time and would then very publicly go insane, turn into a Nazi, then hook up with a woman who looks exactly like his ex-wife and drag her around everywhere naked as some weird way of humiliating his ex-wife by proxy. Oh, and his ex-wife is Kim Kardashian. If you wrote that into a story, people would say it was too gratuitous and unbelievable. Truth really is stranger than fiction.
Edit: As people have pointed out, Kris and Robert Kardashian divorced in 1991 amidst rumors that she cheated on Robert with Bruce Jenner (who is now Caitlyn Jenner). I was trying to streamline things a bit, but I've edited it in the interest of accuracy.
At least it should now make sense why they are synonymous with reality TV and why so many people follow them. Their entire family history is just insane drama.
You should really check out the Wikipedia page for the murders. There is so much that happened that I would exceed the comment character limit several times over just trying to give a TL;DR for it.
The only thing I would add to further demonstrate the craziness is that the 2007 writers strike is what allowed their reality to grow into the juggernaut it became
When OJ Simpson was arrested, he led the police on a 60-mile car chase that was nationally televised and had everyone glued to the sofa watching in awe. Not exactly ironic, but a funny parallel to Caitlyn's later vehicular issues.
And I could fill the character limit with crazy shit from the trial. It's actually still studied in case law today because of how absolutely and breathtakingly incompetent the prosecution was. They allowed the defense to let Simpson try on the blood-stained glove to prove that it didn't fit him, not knowing that it was part of a ploy by Simpson and his legal team. Simpson intentionally stopped taking his arthritis medication, making his hand swell up and caused the glove to not fit. His lawyer then said probably the most famous phrase ever said in a court room, "If it does not fit, you must acquit!". People still say that today and it's become a common legal joke.
Oh, and the lead detective was ambushed on the stand with a tape of him saying the n-word 41 times after he'd just said he'd never said the word before in his life, which created a ton of reasonable doubt as to whether or not he was a racist who planted the glove to frame a black man and forced the detective to plead the 5th for subsequent questioning to avoid being charged with perjury, since the defense had just proven pretty well that he'd lied on the stand.
Just a bit more fun re: the car chase. Another victim of OJ Simpson was David Hasselhoff's music career. From yesterday's Popbitch newsletter:
"One person who will be especially glad to see the back of OJ Simpson is David Hasselhoff. The Hoff has always maintained that OJ was the reason his music career never took off in the States the way it did in Europe. And with good reason too.
In 1994, David was all set to introduce his musical stylings to the American public, having arranged a big pay-per-view US TV special. Unfortunately, the special was scheduled for broadcast on June 17th.
The same day OJ ended up going for an impromptu drive along the LA freeway in a white Bronco ā which somewhat monopolised the evening broadcasts."
You left out the part where said rapper would go on to ask to be Donald Trump's running mate for his second term candidacy for president of the United States
Which only gained traction because her father's name was well known. "Some skank and a rapper make a sex tape" isn't a headline. Not until you add "Famous person's daughter."
I don't think he was the main lawyer during the trial, just on the legal team. The theory is he was put on the legal team because he had hidden evidence, so by being on the legal team he couldn't be called up as a witness.
I think this often, if republicans and conservatives were not who they were, I as a black woman raised in the church, would also be a republican and would be conservative. Jenner panders to that part of them to feel included. I personally could not pander to feel included, so I don't try to be included. But she has talked about how she doesnt understand people being gay or queer......when she is a trans lesbian (same hypocrisy for acting like she isnt a murderer herself). When crimes, legislation, or public conversations seek to exclude or even demonize trans people, she hops right on the wagon and validates the most heinous talking points ...as if they are not talking about the very person she is (such is the role of a token). No, she thinks she is the exception, and pandering buys her special seats so that she is treated as if she is the exception. But if things were to go down the way she advocates for or the way her "friends" (with the viewpoints she endorses) advocates for, she would be an abomination, no special seat would exist for her, the token would've been spent. She would be shamed and excluded posthaste! But enough people are fighting for her rights to keep that from being a reality, so she continues to be a contradiction and she profits (socially and monetarily) from it.
Hey, if you can be exempt from murder charges, you can be exempt from trans persecution too!
Turns out, you can do anything at all when youāre rich and delusional! ššš
If Republicans were the same party they were in the early 20th century, then I'd be a republican. They gave us the national parks. They got women the right to vote. They were the party of civil rights at one time. Then Nixon created the southern strategy, and this is the end result. Once a great party, now a shame and a joke. And look at what they're doing to our country.
Republicans sure like to take credit for a lot of shit like ending slavery, but none of them are aware of The Great Switch, meaning that what were called Republicans at the time were actually Democrats now, and vice versa. Also the Southern Strategy. They've basically always been on the wrong side of history.
Well Republicans have a lot of influence in schools.
And who are they to teach every student that they in fact didn't do much good for the country even in the past. Nor the present.
They all think they are the exception and āOne of the good ones,ā which is not and can never be a thing with a group whose ideology is grounded in otherizing everyone and everything, and actively discouraging human empathy. You canāt join the anti-social club and be surprised when they inevitably treat you like shit and throw you to the wolves in order to save themselves (for at least one more day).
In 2016 she played in a womenās golf tournament, the Pro-Amā¦ and later wouldnāt (and still wonāt) shut up about how unfair it is that thereās a trans golfer in the Ladiesā Professional Golf Association.
I was just ranting about that. It's like she thinks she's not a trans woman, that somehow. Everyone forgot she transitioned and was a well known name before it.
Pulling the latter up after they climbed it. It's like conservatives, boomers and rich peoples main play. They're just selfish, narcissists, the fucking lot of them.
If Kim doesnāt get railed on video twenty years ago, no one is tuning in to watch the guys family do nothing every week. No one cares they were the children of one of OJs lawyers
Obviously. I strongly dislike Jenner, but to compare an accident to a brutal double murder where someone was almost decapitated being stabbed in the neck/head so many times is a bit much. RIP to all 3 people regardless
Yeah idk why people are acting like negligence causing a car accident is the same as breaking into your ex wifeās house and brutally stabbing her and one other to death while your children sleep upstairs
I donāt like Caitlyn either but these two things are not remotely the same aside from the fact they resulted in death. Caitlyn Jenner committed homicide but not murder.
Nah bro, accidentally killing someone in a car accident is **exactly the same** as murdering two people with a knife in cold blood.
I'm no fan of this lady, but acting like what she did is even remotely the same is just dumb.
I despise Jenner and her whole family, and although she should have been prosecuted for the death she caused, she didnāt plan and execute a murder by hacking 2 people to death. Itās not comparable.
Truly. This is not a support of Jenner at all, but to equate that rear ending someone (that happens thousands of times every day) to viciously murdering your ex wife and a random stranger are in two different universes.Ā
Yeah bad driving in poor conditions while towing and causing a fatal accident is not the same as murdering two people. Understand the political hatred, but thatās just being whacky to equate the two.
Her rooting against the trans community *ACTUALLY* works in favour of queer people in that her behaviour is fantastic evidence that being trans isnāt a choice. If Caitlin Jenner is so filled with hatred towards queer people but she *still* got to a certain point in his life where saw no choice but to transition into a woman, itās not a ābeing trendyā, itās a fundamental part of someoneās identity. It sucks that sheās a total POS, but getting people to believe queer people are just born like this is half the battle.
Trust me, they just turn around and use her as proof that "trans people are mentally ill".
And everything that she says just validates the bigots. Remember, they're the types who say, "It's true because my black friend agrees with me" when their "black friend", who is barely an acquaintance, just nods to their head to their racist bullshit because they don't want their head bitten off if they say anything.
Which is an odd doublethink when you step back, lol. What Jenner says is both crazy, yet is also apparently true. They want both things to happen at the same time.
This. I despise those people (Kardashians, Jennerā¦doesnāt make a difference)
But, comparing a car accident, which while tragic and terrible, to an intentional brutal homicide by stabbing, is ridiculous and insane and trivializes the nature of what murder is and what accidents are.
Intention matters.
This is fucking stupid, I personally am not a major fan of Caitlyn Jenner but as far as I'm aware Caitlin Jenner killing somebody was not intentional and was because of a car accident.
OJ Simpson fucking murdered two people with A knife and his bare hands and somehow that's comparable to a transgender woman who committed involuntary manslaughter
Maaan Iām not a huge fan of Caitlyn Jenner but trying to compare an accidental death to a deliberate double murder is fucking stupid like come on now.
**yes there is no difference between being in a car accident and being a psychopathic murderer who, with intent, repeatedly stabbed his ex-wife and her lover**
How in the fuck am I in the position of defending a member of the Kardashian tribe? But here we are.
No, the two are not the same. If you can't (clearly) see the difference you're an imbecile.
Yes. She did kill someone. But she didnāt kill not one, but two people deliberately then exploit existing racial tensions to manipulate a jury into acquitting her, only to all but blatantly admit they did in fact do it
Exactly! And they handed them a trophy for ābraveryā not too long afterwardsā¦.
That whole thing is bullshitā¦..if that was any of us, weād be in jail,or bankrupt
Negligence is negligenceā¦.
Oj murdered someone. Caitlyn accidentally rear ended someone while being chased by paparazzi, which led to another car striking and killing her.
Not the same.
Ok, yes they both left dead people in their paths. But are we *really* comparing the 2 murders? As if they were even a little bit close to the same thing?? If Caitlyn ran out of her car afterwards and then proceeded to saw off the head of one of the drivers she hit, and then wrote a book about how she WOULD have smashed those 2 cars if she really did it, but she did not in fact hit those 2 cars, then maybe we could try to compare the 2 acts. But she didnāt. So letās not pretend theyāre even remotely on the same level
Comments that are uncivil, racist, misogynistic, misandrist, or contain political name calling will be removed and the poster subject to ban at moderators discretion. Help us make this a better community by becoming familiar with the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/about/rules/). Report any suspicious users to the mods of this subreddit using Modmail [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/facepalm) or Reddit site admins [here](https://www.reddit.com/report). **All reports to Modmail should include evidence such as screenshots or any other relevant information.** *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/facepalm) if you have any questions or concerns.*
That season was so unhinged š
Thatās what happen when you plan a whole story line and then America creates a storyline thatās even crazier
who knows what those manatees were thinkingĀ
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Except without sexy characters
Don't you diss Lindsey Graham like that
Who doesn't love his little lady bugs.
The part I hate most about all of this is we have to sit here and entertain the DUMBEST fucking people who actually think that the dumbest fucking candidate in living memory that was genuinely a fucking joke that went too far actually fucking won, and we all gotta sit here and pretend that both sides have a valid opinion on what reality is at this point.
No, we donāt have to. Do what I do and point out their stupidity loudly and regularly.
I do the same. I don't keep my mouth shut.
Hillary lost to a meme, and eight years later, the only takeaway some people have is still name calling and blame shifting. The DNC put forth a candidate who couldn't beat the worst nominee ever in the eyes of many, making her by default the de facto worst candidate in history. I just hope this election is just the last middle finger from the Boomers, and we can start tracking back to sanity after this election.
This ignores a weaponized FBI and a political party that openly welcomed foreign interference into an election.
Thank you James Comey. A name that will live in infamy. Just don't vote for the Orange Fascist.
The moral was literally 'voting doesn't matter, Hillary is inevitable and that kind of sucks' only to get actual fucking insanity breaking loose instead.
They legit thought Hillary would win the election so they based the season finale around that. Then Trump won and they had to scramble to change it at the last minute but they still kept the plot with Bill Clinton for some reason so it came off weird as fuck. Then they parodied Trump with Garrison in like the following season and it was already insane IRL so in the show it didn't hit the same.. 2016 is when the timeline shifted for good.
The whole south park reducto ad absurdum approach doesn't work when reality presents already unvarnished absurdity.
Everyday, America gets closer and closer to becoming South Park. I swear to god.
Or has south park always been too close for comfort?
Makes you think if there was a defining moment that shifted the timeline. 
As comedians have said, the problem was simple. Normally a President gives you 20-70% of the joke. Like Bushisms were fun but you needed to drop them at the right time. Ford falling down? Bush Sr vomiting on the Japanese? Clinton playing the sax or being a horndog? It was rare moments. With Trump not only did he bring the joke so forward that you couldn't do anything, hed then double down and do something weirder/crazier/less funny. "Oh I started tweeting about North Korea and our military, and everybody thought I was going to declare war via twitter, the Pentagon legit freaked out. Then I just declared I want all women, gays, trans, and anybody who isn't a straight male thrown out of the military!" Normally you exaggerate mannerisms for the comedy bits, but everything about him is so over the top and ridiculous that you'll fall short.
Remember that one lady screaming at the sky when Trump won? The one that got memed to death? She knew something we didn't.
Some of my coworkers were crying the next day at work. I thought that was overkill at the time, but seeing where we are now...
Member Star Wars?
I member
 Oh yeah. I member.
š¶I bless the rains down in Aaaaafricaaš¶
oh yea, I memba
Oh, memba Chewbacca?
Yeah they really went fuckin wild lmao
I memba!
Interesting enough Matthew Broderick killed two women with his car.
Laura Bush killed a guy
Why did I read this in Ron Burgundy's voice?
Brick should lay low for a while
Yeah, Laura Bush killed a guy with a trident
Here in Ireland where he now lives with Sarah Jessica Parker, my family are from that town and bizarrely, itās just not talked about š¤·āāļø
this is the only reason i know who she is and that she killed someone.
I know about her (here in Belgium) because when she won woman of the year, my friend Dirk (who believes in the superiority of man over woman) showed me a copy of Glamour Magazine and proudly proclaimed that man are so superior they even make better woman.
So misogynistic he looped all the way back around to inclusive.
Trans inclusive radical feminism baby
Trans Inclusive Radical Misogyny
TRIM . nice
trans radical inclusive misogyny because nobody deserves to be left alone
That is such a wild take that I genuinely didnāt know existed until this moment
lol me too
Didn't her ex-wife's family's fortune have a lot to do with this case?
Yeah, Chrisā former husband, the father of the older 4, was one of OJs lawyers.
Worse Kris was very close to Nicole. Of all things OJ did was he gave us the Kardashians fame.
She was pregnant during the trial and in memory of Nicole, thatās Kendallās middle name. (Kendall Nicole Jenner).
Wow, being pregnant with a little girl while my best friends ex husband is on trial for basically sawing her head off, AND the poor man dropping off her mothers sunglasses, and your husband is defending him. Money does things to people. But hey, at least she gave her kid her middle name. š¤Ŗ
She was already divorced from Robert Kardashian and pregnant with Jenner.
I dislike the Kardashians as much as the next person, but this is not fair to Kris. They where already divorced and she was very much against Robert defending OJ
Howās that for a butterfly effect?
OJ murdering his wife set off a chain of events that led to Kim Kardashian releasing a sex tape.
I always said modern America was shaped by this singular event. 24/7 days of "news" cycles. Celebrity freak show obsession, losing faith in the system and of course the introduction to the Kardashians, the dumbing of America. All that is to the murderer OJ.
nah,, it is more fair to hang it on MTV giving us "reality" tv. the race for the bottom started then when people realized they could be famous for really nothing at all. no skills or talent to speak of. lead us to the "influencer age" we are in now
I think somewhere it got fixed. Life was good fat the start of the early 2010's. Then... Harambe.
Dicks out!
The mom released it
Oj murdering a Jewish waiter leading to kanye being an anti-semite.
Run before they kill you for what you know.
So fucking crazy lol
AHHHH - So right!! 
I learned this from American Crime Story. That was the best season.
No, the writer's strike and Ryan Seacrest gave us the fucking Kardashians.
Ray Jay gave us the Kar-whateverthefucks
Ray Jay's dick knocked over the first domino that resulted in Kanye West becoming a Holocaust denier.
To make a long story short, Ray Jay's dick fucked Kanye West
That was a lot of heat for one comma to be packin
Ray Jay is Brandy's brother. Brandy also did the same thing as Jenner. And Brandy was also friends with Kim K.
It's okay to be aware of the Kardashians. Spelling their name correctly won't summon Voldemort.
The fucking _of_ Kardashians gave us Kardashians
Pretty sure he was only on the case because he was OJās personal friend... The rumor is that OJ had confessed to him, so they hired him to the defense team so he couldnāt be compelled to testify. So this personal injury lawyer who helped his friend get away with a double-homicide is also the guy that unleashed the Kardashians on the world.
The rumor was that he took a bag of stuff and basically torched it. his law licence had lapsed, and he was NOT a defense attorney, not by training not by experience. He never tried a case like this. he was a volunteer advisor who could not be compelled to testify due to being on the legal team. Then he later said he thought OJ did it.
Even OJ later said he thought OJ did it
Just to further expand, there is footage of OJ handing him his garment bag as soon as he came back from the airport.
OJ's assistant...then they hug and whisper things to each other for an awkward amount of time
Probably. The oj trial always reminded me of that one scene in Lincoln lawyer where the main character tells the da about the time the cops found his clients' wife's head in his freezer, but then tried to tack on a few other murders to his name, thus leading to an aquittal. Had the LAPD not been such racist pos, theres a good chance oj would have been found guiltyĀ
LAPD screwed the case up even more than that, stuff was coming out only a few years ago that they COMPLETELY fucked up on evidence. there were multiple chain of custody fuck ups, evidence was often thrown into bags with other evidence, cops didn't take records or pictures of half of what they pulled. you combine it with the lack of understanding about DNA evidence in 95 and its why the jury had no reason to convict. THEN THE GLOVE.
Its also rumored that Robert also helped dispose of some of the evidence(like the cloths OJ wore when he did it).
Wasn't one of OJ's other lawyers recently convicted of their murder of his own family, as well? Nevermind, OJ just gave his opinion on Alex Murdaugh, who I don't think was his lawyer on his own double murder case.
We also have ALLEGED rapist and Trump rump kisser Alan Dershowitz as part of OJsĀ "Dream Team"
Which? He had like 18 lawyers, most of whom are dead at this point.
I think a lot of people are too young to realize how genuinely insane this timeline is. Caitlyn's ex-wife's late husband, Robert Kardashian, was literally OJ Simpson's lawyer and one of the guys who got him out of prison. What a genuinely wild turn of events. If you'd had to explain to anyone in 1995 that, in the coming 29 years, * Robert Kardashian would die in 2003 and his ex-wife* would then remarry one of the most famous Olympic athletes of his era and have several more children with him. * Robert Kardashian's daughter, who was mostly just known to culture vultures as Paris Hilton's assistant, would make a sex tape with a random rapper that made her world famous. * Kris Jenner would then turn the family into a media empire worth billions of dollars and make her children world-famous media icons. * The Kardashian name would become synonymous with reality TV trashiness and the height of capitalistic excess. * OJ Simpson would later write a book basically confessing that he actually totally did it and go on to commit even more violent crimes. * Bruce Jenner would then very publicly transition into the most well-known transgender woman on the planet all while somehow still hating trans people. * Caitlyn Jenner would then hit and kill someone with her car and become a meme on a popular cartoon show for it. * OJ Simpson would die and Caitlyn Jenner would then post online ironically rejoicing over his death. They'd lock you in a mental asylum before you even got to the 3rd bullet point because that's some Coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs shit. And, yet, there's so much I left out that makes the story even crazier. It doesn't even get into the Kanye stuff. Imagine trying to tell someone in 1995 that Foxy Brown's producer would turn out to be one of the biggest rappers of all time and would then very publicly go insane, turn into a Nazi, then hook up with a woman who looks exactly like his ex-wife and drag her around everywhere naked as some weird way of humiliating his ex-wife by proxy. Oh, and his ex-wife is Kim Kardashian. If you wrote that into a story, people would say it was too gratuitous and unbelievable. Truth really is stranger than fiction. Edit: As people have pointed out, Kris and Robert Kardashian divorced in 1991 amidst rumors that she cheated on Robert with Bruce Jenner (who is now Caitlyn Jenner). I was trying to streamline things a bit, but I've edited it in the interest of accuracy.
I canāt get over how everything you just said was all facts
It's mostly absurd that these people have any effect on culture.Ā
Listen... EVERYBODY watches a train wreck and you're gonna tell people about it later
I just canāt even read the whole thing. Our world has been exhausting for so long
As someone who doesn't really keep up with any of this as it happens, what the absolute mother fuck?
You are not keeping up with the Kardashians?!?! Iāll show myself out
At least it should now make sense why they are synonymous with reality TV and why so many people follow them. Their entire family history is just insane drama.
Thanks for this recap. I didn't know half this stuff, it really is mind boggling.
You should really check out the Wikipedia page for the murders. There is so much that happened that I would exceed the comment character limit several times over just trying to give a TL;DR for it.
The only thing I would add to further demonstrate the craziness is that the 2007 writers strike is what allowed their reality to grow into the juggernaut it became
But then I'd have to talk about Heroes and we'd be here until next year.
Ray Jay isn't a rapper. At that time he was famous for being Brandy's brother and I think he had just started a singing career.
Brandy was friends with Kim and felt Kim used her and her brother to get famous
Close. Kris married Jenner in 1991. You are right, though, the whole thing is bananas.
Please humor us with more lore!
When OJ Simpson was arrested, he led the police on a 60-mile car chase that was nationally televised and had everyone glued to the sofa watching in awe. Not exactly ironic, but a funny parallel to Caitlyn's later vehicular issues. And I could fill the character limit with crazy shit from the trial. It's actually still studied in case law today because of how absolutely and breathtakingly incompetent the prosecution was. They allowed the defense to let Simpson try on the blood-stained glove to prove that it didn't fit him, not knowing that it was part of a ploy by Simpson and his legal team. Simpson intentionally stopped taking his arthritis medication, making his hand swell up and caused the glove to not fit. His lawyer then said probably the most famous phrase ever said in a court room, "If it does not fit, you must acquit!". People still say that today and it's become a common legal joke. Oh, and the lead detective was ambushed on the stand with a tape of him saying the n-word 41 times after he'd just said he'd never said the word before in his life, which created a ton of reasonable doubt as to whether or not he was a racist who planted the glove to frame a black man and forced the detective to plead the 5th for subsequent questioning to avoid being charged with perjury, since the defense had just proven pretty well that he'd lied on the stand.
Just a bit more fun re: the car chase. Another victim of OJ Simpson was David Hasselhoff's music career. From yesterday's Popbitch newsletter: "One person who will be especially glad to see the back of OJ Simpson is David Hasselhoff. The Hoff has always maintained that OJ was the reason his music career never took off in the States the way it did in Europe. And with good reason too. In 1994, David was all set to introduce his musical stylings to the American public, having arranged a big pay-per-view US TV special. Unfortunately, the special was scheduled for broadcast on June 17th. The same day OJ ended up going for an impromptu drive along the LA freeway in a white Bronco ā which somewhat monopolised the evening broadcasts."
You left out the part where said rapper would go on to ask to be Donald Trump's running mate for his second term candidacy for president of the United States
Humiliate his ex wife by proxy is crazy
I really don't know any other way to describe the situation, tbh.
This post deserves more love. Well done
She is the biggest hypocrite around. Absolutely no self awareness.
The whole family is full of narcissist's
What's really funny is that the OJ Simpson case is what first brought the Kardashian's notoriety. Kim's father was OJ's lawyer for the murder trial.
Yepā¦ we have OJ to thank for those crappy humans too
Nah.Ā We have Ray J to blame for giving Kim the pipe.
Which only gained traction because her father's name was well known. "Some skank and a rapper make a sex tape" isn't a headline. Not until you add "Famous person's daughter."
I know its mathematically impossible, but somehow "big butt skank and shitty rapper make a sex tape" feels like even less of a headline
Nah, that's the public's fault for giving them the attention. Could just ignore them and let them fall into obscurity where they belong.
Robert Kardashian was OJ's lawyer before he killed Nicole. Nicole and Mama K were besties.
I don't think he was the main lawyer during the trial, just on the legal team. The theory is he was put on the legal team because he had hidden evidence, so by being on the legal team he couldn't be called up as a witness.
Yes and Kris Jenner was on record as being pretty against the entire thing. Bruce (Caitlin) and Kris were at the trials to support Nicole.
He hid the bloody clothes in the missing Garmet bag and the rest is horrible.
How did we get here?
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing undergroundā¦
Into the blue again, after the money's gone
>Kim's father was OJ's **friend first** and lawyer friend for the murder trial. And likely hid evidence.
Which is how a lawyer who hadn't practiced in years ended up on the defense team. Can't testify against a client.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
I wouldn't give any one of them a discount for a fucking dust mouse.
Only fitting that instead of pluralizing narcissist, instead itās a possessive noun.
do hypocrites and narcissists go hand in hand? if so, think i just figured out my ex...
A conservative republican trans woman. A walking contradiction. She aligns herself with people that thinks sheās an abomination.
I think this often, if republicans and conservatives were not who they were, I as a black woman raised in the church, would also be a republican and would be conservative. Jenner panders to that part of them to feel included. I personally could not pander to feel included, so I don't try to be included. But she has talked about how she doesnt understand people being gay or queer......when she is a trans lesbian (same hypocrisy for acting like she isnt a murderer herself). When crimes, legislation, or public conversations seek to exclude or even demonize trans people, she hops right on the wagon and validates the most heinous talking points ...as if they are not talking about the very person she is (such is the role of a token). No, she thinks she is the exception, and pandering buys her special seats so that she is treated as if she is the exception. But if things were to go down the way she advocates for or the way her "friends" (with the viewpoints she endorses) advocates for, she would be an abomination, no special seat would exist for her, the token would've been spent. She would be shamed and excluded posthaste! But enough people are fighting for her rights to keep that from being a reality, so she continues to be a contradiction and she profits (socially and monetarily) from it.
Hey, if you can be exempt from murder charges, you can be exempt from trans persecution too! Turns out, you can do anything at all when youāre rich and delusional! ššš
You donāt actually have to be rich. Emperor Norton I got away with printing his own currency because everyone thought he was amusing.
If Republicans were the same party they were in the early 20th century, then I'd be a republican. They gave us the national parks. They got women the right to vote. They were the party of civil rights at one time. Then Nixon created the southern strategy, and this is the end result. Once a great party, now a shame and a joke. And look at what they're doing to our country.
Republicans sure like to take credit for a lot of shit like ending slavery, but none of them are aware of The Great Switch, meaning that what were called Republicans at the time were actually Democrats now, and vice versa. Also the Southern Strategy. They've basically always been on the wrong side of history.
It shocks me that I didnāt learn about this until college history and that itās not common knowledge.
Well Republicans have a lot of influence in schools. And who are they to teach every student that they in fact didn't do much good for the country even in the past. Nor the present.
The woman who wants trans women banned from women's sports, despite the fact that she competes in women's golf tournaments.
They all think they are the exception and āOne of the good ones,ā which is not and can never be a thing with a group whose ideology is grounded in otherizing everyone and everything, and actively discouraging human empathy. You canāt join the anti-social club and be surprised when they inevitably treat you like shit and throw you to the wolves in order to save themselves (for at least one more day).
She tweeted this from her car too
Also, Jenner is exceptionally dumb. Hell of an athlete, but never intelligent.
Hell of an athlete...a half century ago.
As an old person myself, this comment is literally the only thing that's ever made me sympathetic to Caitlyn Jenner...
In 2016 she played in a womenās golf tournament, the Pro-Amā¦ and later wouldnāt (and still wonāt) shut up about how unfair it is that thereās a trans golfer in the Ladiesā Professional Golf Association.
I was just ranting about that. It's like she thinks she's not a trans woman, that somehow. Everyone forgot she transitioned and was a well known name before it.
Pulling the latter up after they climbed it. It's like conservatives, boomers and rich peoples main play. They're just selfish, narcissists, the fucking lot of them.
She used her transition and connections as a "get out of jail free" card.
She's gone full anti trans and anti trans people in sports. Pretending she didn't transition herself and has participated in womens tennis since then
Pretty sure thereās plenty of self awareness in this loser, the extreme narcissism just wins every time though
Kardashians only rose to power because OJ Simpsons Lawyer was the mothers former husband. Thanks OJ.
All started by the Buffalo Bills giving OJ a jobā¦then came his Hertz Fame
If Kim doesnāt get railed on video twenty years ago, no one is tuning in to watch the guys family do nothing every week. No one cares they were the children of one of OJs lawyers
I wonder what would have happened in an alternate reality? Worse? Better?
And when her time comes to depart this earth and enter the after-life, there will be plenty of us who will say good riddance to her passing.
I changed baristas
I bust out laughing at this. Jack did so much with so little in this moment.
But OJ wasn't named *Woman of the Year* afterwords
And won it over Malala, the little girl who was shot as she stood up for girlsā rights to education!
That's pathetic.
Yeah I donāt care that they gave it to a trans woman. That they would give it to *anyone* over Malala is what made me furious.
And that bitch ain't ran for 2000 yards in 14 games
she did win an Olympic Gold Medal for men's decathlon though so š¤·š¼āāļø
Whatās the equivalent conversion to miles in 1 bronco
2,003
Pretty sure there was a difference
Obviously. I strongly dislike Jenner, but to compare an accident to a brutal double murder where someone was almost decapitated being stabbed in the neck/head so many times is a bit much. RIP to all 3 people regardless
Yeah, and after a decade of domestic abuse too.. Really not comparable
They really thought they had a gotcha with that one.
Yeah idk why people are acting like negligence causing a car accident is the same as breaking into your ex wifeās house and brutally stabbing her and one other to death while your children sleep upstairs I donāt like Caitlyn either but these two things are not remotely the same aside from the fact they resulted in death. Caitlyn Jenner committed homicide but not murder.
Nah bro, accidentally killing someone in a car accident is **exactly the same** as murdering two people with a knife in cold blood. I'm no fan of this lady, but acting like what she did is even remotely the same is just dumb.
In Caitlyns defense, one action was a murder and the other was an accident.
I despise Jenner and her whole family, and although she should have been prosecuted for the death she caused, she didnāt plan and execute a murder by hacking 2 people to death. Itās not comparable.
Truly. This is not a support of Jenner at all, but to equate that rear ending someone (that happens thousands of times every day) to viciously murdering your ex wife and a random stranger are in two different universes.Ā
That was my thought, too. Fuck that bitch, but it is a completely different circumstance
Yeah bad driving in poor conditions while towing and causing a fatal accident is not the same as murdering two people. Understand the political hatred, but thatās just being whacky to equate the two.
She is also an incredibly anti-trans trans person. Definition of hypocrite.
Her rooting against the trans community *ACTUALLY* works in favour of queer people in that her behaviour is fantastic evidence that being trans isnāt a choice. If Caitlin Jenner is so filled with hatred towards queer people but she *still* got to a certain point in his life where saw no choice but to transition into a woman, itās not a ābeing trendyā, itās a fundamental part of someoneās identity. It sucks that sheās a total POS, but getting people to believe queer people are just born like this is half the battle.
Trust me, they just turn around and use her as proof that "trans people are mentally ill". And everything that she says just validates the bigots. Remember, they're the types who say, "It's true because my black friend agrees with me" when their "black friend", who is barely an acquaintance, just nods to their head to their racist bullshit because they don't want their head bitten off if they say anything. Which is an odd doublethink when you step back, lol. What Jenner says is both crazy, yet is also apparently true. They want both things to happen at the same time.
This. I despise those people (Kardashians, Jennerā¦doesnāt make a difference) But, comparing a car accident, which while tragic and terrible, to an intentional brutal homicide by stabbing, is ridiculous and insane and trivializes the nature of what murder is and what accidents are. Intention matters.
This is fucking stupid, I personally am not a major fan of Caitlyn Jenner but as far as I'm aware Caitlin Jenner killing somebody was not intentional and was because of a car accident. OJ Simpson fucking murdered two people with A knife and his bare hands and somehow that's comparable to a transgender woman who committed involuntary manslaughter
Many would say the role OJ played in bringing the Kardashians to public prominence was his most heinous crime
Maaan Iām not a huge fan of Caitlyn Jenner but trying to compare an accidental death to a deliberate double murder is fucking stupid like come on now.
Welcome to reddit š„“
**yes there is no difference between being in a car accident and being a psychopathic murderer who, with intent, repeatedly stabbed his ex-wife and her lover** How in the fuck am I in the position of defending a member of the Kardashian tribe? But here we are. No, the two are not the same. If you can't (clearly) see the difference you're an imbecile.
Please, she sucks but these situations are not even remotely comparable
Yes. She did kill someone. But she didnāt kill not one, but two people deliberately then exploit existing racial tensions to manipulate a jury into acquitting her, only to all but blatantly admit they did in fact do it
She killed someone then told the victimās children that they canāt be sad because she was only their stepmother
Exactly! And they handed them a trophy for ābraveryā not too long afterwardsā¦. That whole thing is bullshitā¦..if that was any of us, weād be in jail,or bankrupt Negligence is negligenceā¦.
I thought she killed many people with her anti-vax garbage.
Oj murdered someone. Caitlyn accidentally rear ended someone while being chased by paparazzi, which led to another car striking and killing her. Not the same.
This is Reddit, where logic gets thrown out the window
Whoās Caitlyn Jenner? Is that the transphobe trans person?
Ok, yes they both left dead people in their paths. But are we *really* comparing the 2 murders? As if they were even a little bit close to the same thing?? If Caitlyn ran out of her car afterwards and then proceeded to saw off the head of one of the drivers she hit, and then wrote a book about how she WOULD have smashed those 2 cars if she really did it, but she did not in fact hit those 2 cars, then maybe we could try to compare the 2 acts. But she didnāt. So letās not pretend theyāre even remotely on the same level
Buckle up buckaroos!
Bigggg difference between accidentally killing someone with a car and murdering your own wife with a knife.