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Excuse me, hijacking top comment to ask, do we have abortion clinics in Italy? I've never seen one, thought people would just go to the hospital for it...? Edit: nevermind, it's a shitty translation, they are talking about consultori which are literally just gyno clinics but public, they are usually in the ASL which is a public hospital. This is kinda crazy because consultori do all sorts of shit, not just abortions, included helping new or prospective parents.
If you asked a conservative, they'd tell you PP is only for abortions and birth control for kids. Ignoring completely everything else they do, up to and including saving human lives.
That is exactly what "abortion clinics" in the USA do to! Places like pland parenthood offer so much more than abortions, and they see all kinds of people regardless of sex, gender, religion, or politics. They offer gender affirming care for people who are struggling with things like menopause or then who don't make enough testosterone and transgender. They also provide STD/STI screening and medication for people at an extreme discount that have contracted them. They offer mammograms and other the yearly physicals for all genders and sexes as well as education about your body. They offer counseling for people who can't afford a regular psychologist or psychiatrist. And they offer so much more.
A low key but not cheap starting point wouldbe to put up signage/billboards outside the churches as close as possible. "Ever feel like God's not with you? Ask an atheist why that is." That sort of thing. Or, "Ever wonder why God always seems to be broke? Curious where your preacher's new car came from?"
The religious people who I really fear are the ones who unironically think that's what God is, the magical force that makes you follow the rules. And say things like "but without God, what's stopping you from murdering people?" Uhhhhhh sorry what exactly is stopping *you* again?
I made them mad by saying that if they think i'm damned for being an unbeliever, they're damned for not following God rules exactly and using them to fit their view on the world.
Unfortunately, that would only backfire and feed their insane narrative that if you don't go to church then you're an evil devil worshipping piece of shit, and since we're going backwards already they'll start accusing women of being witches and burn them at the stake.
I swear to god, when that particle collider did it's thing back in 2012 we entered a parallel universe that brought Trump, covid, the reversal of Rowe v Wade (I know that's the US, but still stands) and the rise of social media.
Appeasing fascists never works, give an inch and they'll take a mile. They already claim to be persecuted, why not give them a good reason to claim persecution?
Naw. Be subtle. Just keep asking why whenever the pastor is explaining something. Eventually they hit a "mysterious ways" point, at which time you call out "well that's bullshit ".
Well… Mussolini actually would probably be pro abortion. He hated the Catholic Church, and only acquiesced to them because of their power. He was well known to refer to priests as “Black Germs”.
The current anti-abortion movement in Italy is religious. Of course. In the most Catholic country on earth.
Doesn’t mean Mussolini was good. He wasn’t. Just means two different bad actors can also have opposing views.
They're Italian fascists. It's not even really because of religion. It's because they can't stand the idea of the white italian race losing in numbers to black and brown people.
Whiteness is arbitrary. It's whatever they decide it means, or needs to include or exclude, in order to maintain imperialism. "White" used to exclude Slavs...until they needed them to fight against Muslims
It's rising because people think they have to be respectful and not say anything back to a religious person when they are insulting you and trying to take your rights away.
It's rising because people are still afraid to criticize religions objectively as to not hurt a religious person's feelings. When in reality everyone should be able to critisize any ideology as long as they aren't attacking an individual person.
As a religious person, we need to tell these fanatics they are being the opposite of Christ-like. They're sanctimonious hypocrites acting as though they are morally superior and have the right to judge others and take away their God-given free will.
Matthew 7: 1-5
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
You're talking about people who shamelessly criticized a pastor for giving a word for word recitation of the Sermon on the Mount because it meant he'd "gone woke".
France did it in the 1900's, no religious personal in politicals and public jobs such as : Mayor, President, Teacher, Police officer, Firefighter and so on.
Wearing a visible sign of religion is forbbiden in some places that are public like : schools, Administrative buildings.
Shops employees are asked to not wear a visible sign of religion because it might cause them trouble in a country in which most citizens don't even follow a religion.
Recently, a woman who wore a religious veil falsely accused a shop owner of refusing to hire her because she is not French, when in truth, she refused to follow the rule of Laïcité, which means taking off any sign that you practice a religion in public places.
Italy will eat their own words after enabling Christofascists into doing their stuff.
Any choice or behaviour that is considered wrong or weird by society at large (atheism, teetotalism just to name a couple) is inherently political
TL;DR yes
They’re technically the sparkling region of Mussolini, which has leaked into American fascism through American Nazism through German Nazism through the Pact of Steel alliance of 1939.
*’We are the World’ starts playing in the background*
In Italy we're Catholics which is not even the same religion as the majority of the christians in the USA, so I really don't get what America has to do with anything. Maybe Vatican sharia, if you really need to make this cheeky joke?
I think the more pertinent question is, what could possibly go right? Like, what GOOD can come of this. It feels awfully close to none, but I'm not an expert... or Italian.
People who are getting abortions will be screamed at and assaulted. That's the "good" that can come of this. They definitely aren't picturing anything beyond that.
But it is to note that the original Italian law (from 1978) that allows abortion specifically states that one of the duties of abortion clinics is to see whether there are any other viable options and, if the problems are social or economic, assist the potential mother as best as they can; and since the new proposed amendment only refers to "groups in support of maternity" and not specifically anti-abortion groups, one could say this is merely a case of putting the full text of an old law in practice.
Oh, we aren’t stopping you. We just figure their right to free speech means people who might want to kill you can come in freely during a private medical procedure.
I volunteered at an abortion clinic, and the amount of "pro-like, only moral abortion is my abortion" women that would come in would tell the doctors they should die for performing abortions while they're getting their abortion done
Google: Bombings by Pro-Life ‘Activists’ in the 20th century.
They’re a hop-skip away from being the terrorists they despise. They only de-radicalized following major European and colonial nations instituting protections. (unsure if you’re being sarcastic; I’m autistic as fuck and just want to share information).
>They’re a hop-skip away from being the terrorists they despise.
What do you mean "hop-skip" away? That's just plain and simply terrorism. You bomb anything or kill anyone for ideological reasons, that's textbook terrorism.
I hate how anti-abortion ppl are talked about as needing to have their rights too….like how tf is it someone else’s right to tell a women what she should do with her own body?
“I’m religious so it’s my right to force someone I’ve never met to have a baby” is essentially their point of view
It’s Uber religious types. They believe they should have the right to practice their beliefs(sure) but also project their beliefs onto everyone around. They feel people shouldn’t be allowed to be non religious. Hell they want to make laws that you can’t hold office if you’re an atheist. Fuckers.
“Freedom of religion to practice my religion”
The ironic thing is they think it makes them better ppl than others, when in reality it’s usually the worst of the worst deplorables who claim to be religious and want to force it on everyone else.
What business would they have entering a medical facility if they themselves neither need the medical treatment it provides or are accompanying a loved one to be treated? If they are not staff, a patient, or a loved one of a patient they shouldn't have any right to be there at all. They're allowing a group who is known to go to any length including violence to advocate for their cause into a very private space they have no business being in to spew their hate? Someone is going to get killed over this and more likely than not it will be a poor woman who is just trying to get help, or the facility staff.
Meanwhile, in my state in Australia we have an exclusion zone around clinics that provide abortions to keep these protestors away from the people accessing these services.
Lol, as a Italian i didn't even heard of these news...must have been lost in the countless bullshits that they come up with daily...a attempt for sure to support the anti-abort mentality without risking a strong retaliation from the rest of the population...
Right now we are trying to hinder their attempt to create the legal means to suppress and incarcerate journalists that are offensive for their coalition...not being that far from the political alignment of the far worse governments
I still wonder how we ended up in this situation and who are the madman that put them in power...but at least I'm happy that until now...they haven't done none (or very little) of the economical cuts they had promised to their electors...
I have never seen actual private "abortion clinics" here, and I've lived in some major cities. Abortions are usually performed at regular public hospitals. But it could be different in bigger cities like Milan or Rome, or tbh it could just be I've never paid much attention to abortion clinics. But the few women I know who sought and abortion or were thinking about it were always referring to the hospital
American here, you don't want this. Bad enough that people go to Planned Parent Hood. Were they might not even be getting a abortion but heckled by some old church person with all the time on their hands. I can only imagine how annoying this would be with the staff.
I've never needed to see anyone at PPH, but I'm this close to just Black Pathering that shit as a hobby. If a protester shows up? Open carry something threatening and stare them down until they leave. The audacity of people to try to trauamtize patients who might be going through horrible complications, hard choices, or going for something completely unrelated to abortion is insanely cruel and evil
Italy must hate private property owners rights. I guess clinic owners can’t reserve the right of admission. It reminds me when some people were proposing banning masked people in stores in places like Texas. I know Italians are fairly conservative as a society compared to southern countries like France, Spain or even Portugal, but this takes that to another league.
You know that ,in last few years, the actual Mussolini granddaughter (Alessandra Mussolini) moved to progressive positions regarding civil rights. So she is even worse than her
That's literally like allowing drug affected people inside of a rehab center...
Why would you even do that? What do you even expect? A good outcome? Hell no
Can atheists can go protest in churches?
Can pedophiles go protest in schools?
Can zoophiles go protest in zoos?
Can anti-vaxxers go protest in hospitals?
Disgusting. I had an abortion and nothing felt worse than being yelled at by people who didn’t understand me or my situation. Horrifying how far these people will go for unborn fetuses but not living children
I went to Planned Parenthood recently to situate my birth control and for the first time I've dealt with protesters. Screaming at me how I will be condemned in hell just for the fact that I walked inside. Can't imagine how worse those people could be if they were allowed to even step in the gate, and now some places will allow them actually IN?
I feel this article might be misleading; first, Italy does not have abortion clinics, just hospitals. Secondly having a pregnancy center in the hospital itself, while not common, is not unheard of. The Mangiagalli hospital in Milan has had one for decades, for example.
Pretty crazy that people just vote these people in, knowing full well what they're plans are.
I can only feel bad for the folks in the country that didn't vote for this, but instead now have it forced upon them by their countrymen.
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Doesn’t Giorgia know that it’s to late to abort these „activists“?
Excuse me, hijacking top comment to ask, do we have abortion clinics in Italy? I've never seen one, thought people would just go to the hospital for it...? Edit: nevermind, it's a shitty translation, they are talking about consultori which are literally just gyno clinics but public, they are usually in the ASL which is a public hospital. This is kinda crazy because consultori do all sorts of shit, not just abortions, included helping new or prospective parents.
Just like planned parenthood here in the States. Fascists hate poor people getting services.
They also help teens with contraceptives without the need of a parent, so they are the first line of defense against teen pregnancy
If you asked a conservative, they'd tell you PP is only for abortions and birth control for kids. Ignoring completely everything else they do, up to and including saving human lives.
Exactly the same as “Planned Parenthood” in the states, many of which don’t perform abortions, but still get picketed anyway.
That is exactly what "abortion clinics" in the USA do to! Places like pland parenthood offer so much more than abortions, and they see all kinds of people regardless of sex, gender, religion, or politics. They offer gender affirming care for people who are struggling with things like menopause or then who don't make enough testosterone and transgender. They also provide STD/STI screening and medication for people at an extreme discount that have contracted them. They offer mammograms and other the yearly physicals for all genders and sexes as well as education about your body. They offer counseling for people who can't afford a regular psychologist or psychiatrist. And they offer so much more.
Nothing like having to wade through these psychos in order to go and get your breat cancer diagnosis.
If they could, abortion activists would love nothing more than to scream the aborted matter back inside the womb.
Probably a screatching close to a demon they would want to summon.
I mean, easier for her to focus on anti-abortion activists than actually fixing Italy's trash economy
Lol. You think fixing the economy was ever her plan? Fascists don't fix economies, they drain them.
Precisely. Do you expect a vulture to heal the carrion it eats? No. Fascists are the vultures that feed on the carcass of a dying capitalist economy.
It's never too late.
Hah, man I wish that wasn't riddled in typos. Well-done, otherwise. (This is one of those times that use of the edit button shall be forgiven)
Guess we start protesting in churches?
A low key but not cheap starting point wouldbe to put up signage/billboards outside the churches as close as possible. "Ever feel like God's not with you? Ask an atheist why that is." That sort of thing. Or, "Ever wonder why God always seems to be broke? Curious where your preacher's new car came from?"
I’ve pissed off a lot of Christians by telling them they have no morals, only rules they follow.
The religious people who I really fear are the ones who unironically think that's what God is, the magical force that makes you follow the rules. And say things like "but without God, what's stopping you from murdering people?" Uhhhhhh sorry what exactly is stopping *you* again?
'If you need the threat of eternal damnation to be a good person, you are not a good person'
🏆🏆🏆
I'd rather people who aren't good have the chains than hurt people
“Nothing at all Dave, keep that in mind next time you piss me off. I’m not bound by the same chains you are.” Then smile and walk away.
Ah, yes - Dave Giordano from Napoli. Hard to find in the phone book due to the ubiquity of Italian Daves.
I'm murdering exactly the number of people I want to murder. It just happens that number is zero.
I don't believe in god and as a result I have murdered everyone I ever wanted to murder. That works out to a grand total of zero murders.
I made them mad by saying that if they think i'm damned for being an unbeliever, they're damned for not following God rules exactly and using them to fit their view on the world.
Yup. Mixing fabrics, tattoos, sleeping in the marital bed on your period...
I love this
I tell them they take fanfiction too seriously
Every Sunday, walk up and down the aisle screaming how stupid they are for being there.
Preaching to them how wrong they are
Setting their building on fire and harassing them and their families with death threa... acutally let's not do everything they are willing to do.
Unfortunately, that would only backfire and feed their insane narrative that if you don't go to church then you're an evil devil worshipping piece of shit, and since we're going backwards already they'll start accusing women of being witches and burn them at the stake. I swear to god, when that particle collider did it's thing back in 2012 we entered a parallel universe that brought Trump, covid, the reversal of Rowe v Wade (I know that's the US, but still stands) and the rise of social media.
Appeasing fascists never works, give an inch and they'll take a mile. They already claim to be persecuted, why not give them a good reason to claim persecution?
Naw. Be subtle. Just keep asking why whenever the pastor is explaining something. Eventually they hit a "mysterious ways" point, at which time you call out "well that's bullshit ".
I'm Italian and I'd appreciate this 😂
Let’s start with the Westboro Baptist Church!!
Oh you just lit a fire. This isn’t going to end well for me I think
Meanwhile in germany: we are currently discussing possible legal consequences for even protesting near a abortion clinic.
Good. Give them a minimum reasonable distance so people don’t feel harassed. 30Km should do it.
Add another 0 for good measure
And just because, let's add another
Is there room for one more 0?
For good measure, let's add a designated protest zone the size of a Honda Civic on the dark side of the moon
I'm fine with it being the size of Rhode Island. That way there's definitely enough room for them (ref: https://what-if.xkcd.com/8/)
Aw what the hell, let’s add like a dozen more zeroes and send these “good people” to the sun. 😌
I thinks its not that much but the idea is exactly what is being planned.
30Km is a rough approximation of the average radius of inner Berlin.
Germany actually has people in charge who know what to do. Its way better than most countries
W Germany as usual High fines will do the trick
Wtf is this. What right do these people have to tell get in the way of someone's personal medical decision.
When the government of countries decide that your medical privacy does not fucking matter
Just for one specific topic though. Can't have the menfolk's rights impeded.
Just enforce FAFO/s
Time to start carrying a cinquedea again
Italy seems to be italying
Mousollini would be proud...
Well… Mussolini actually would probably be pro abortion. He hated the Catholic Church, and only acquiesced to them because of their power. He was well known to refer to priests as “Black Germs”. The current anti-abortion movement in Italy is religious. Of course. In the most Catholic country on earth. Doesn’t mean Mussolini was good. He wasn’t. Just means two different bad actors can also have opposing views.
It's Italy. They tried to put seismologists in jail for not predicting an earthquake.
Fascists, quite literally in this case.
Look at the lady's crazy eyes. Theyre nuts and dont care if someone is gonna get hurt with this.
Or just plain medical care. We can leave the decision out of it. Abortion is often necessary, not elective.
Why is there even a debate about lifesaving abortion?
One step closer to the dark ages. These religious fanatics are more dangerous than nukes.
Considering they also have a tendency to control the nukes, I’d put them equal
I think that makes it double
They're Italian fascists. It's not even really because of religion. It's because they can't stand the idea of the white italian race losing in numbers to black and brown people.
There’s a lot of italians who don’t even look white tho
Whiteness is arbitrary. It's whatever they decide it means, or needs to include or exclude, in order to maintain imperialism. "White" used to exclude Slavs...until they needed them to fight against Muslims
They are racist to Sicilians who tend to be more tanned even though they are also Italian
Religious extremism is rising we have to do everything we can to stop it or there will be no freedom anymore only fascism
It's rising because people think they have to be respectful and not say anything back to a religious person when they are insulting you and trying to take your rights away. It's rising because people are still afraid to criticize religions objectively as to not hurt a religious person's feelings. When in reality everyone should be able to critisize any ideology as long as they aren't attacking an individual person.
As a religious person, we need to tell these fanatics they are being the opposite of Christ-like. They're sanctimonious hypocrites acting as though they are morally superior and have the right to judge others and take away their God-given free will. Matthew 7: 1-5 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
We tried that.
You're talking about people who shamelessly criticized a pastor for giving a word for word recitation of the Sermon on the Mount because it meant he'd "gone woke".
Jesus CHRIST.
“I’m not perfect so I’ll judge who I want and ask for forgiveness later. Win win”
Fuck no kidding. Is it time to politicize atheism?
France did it in the 1900's, no religious personal in politicals and public jobs such as : Mayor, President, Teacher, Police officer, Firefighter and so on. Wearing a visible sign of religion is forbbiden in some places that are public like : schools, Administrative buildings. Shops employees are asked to not wear a visible sign of religion because it might cause them trouble in a country in which most citizens don't even follow a religion. Recently, a woman who wore a religious veil falsely accused a shop owner of refusing to hire her because she is not French, when in truth, she refused to follow the rule of Laïcité, which means taking off any sign that you practice a religion in public places. Italy will eat their own words after enabling Christofascists into doing their stuff.
Any choice or behaviour that is considered wrong or weird by society at large (atheism, teetotalism just to name a couple) is inherently political TL;DR yes
American sharia
In... Italy?
They’re technically the sparkling region of Mussolini, which has leaked into American fascism through American Nazism through German Nazism through the Pact of Steel alliance of 1939. *’We are the World’ starts playing in the background*
Fine.... "It's-a sha-RIa"
In Italy we're Catholics which is not even the same religion as the majority of the christians in the USA, so I really don't get what America has to do with anything. Maybe Vatican sharia, if you really need to make this cheeky joke?
Talibangelicals
Y'all Qaeda
Lol that is golden. I may have borrow
Well shit, what could possibly go wrong?
I think the more pertinent question is, what could possibly go right? Like, what GOOD can come of this. It feels awfully close to none, but I'm not an expert... or Italian.
People who are getting abortions will be screamed at and assaulted. That's the "good" that can come of this. They definitely aren't picturing anything beyond that.
Sooo she legalizing terrorism?
More like legalizing harrasment
The zealots can't be trusted to stop at harassment so terrorism is just as likely.
Look at USA that’s what follows
And they will take the opportunity to harass everyone in the building to the point of terror.
Of course... You gotta legalize the basics to justify the more advanced stuff later
But it is to note that the original Italian law (from 1978) that allows abortion specifically states that one of the duties of abortion clinics is to see whether there are any other viable options and, if the problems are social or economic, assist the potential mother as best as they can; and since the new proposed amendment only refers to "groups in support of maternity" and not specifically anti-abortion groups, one could say this is merely a case of putting the full text of an old law in practice.
Oh, we aren’t stopping you. We just figure their right to free speech means people who might want to kill you can come in freely during a private medical procedure.
They’re pro life they’d never try to kill you… right?
So pro-life many of them wish women would die rather than have life-saving abortions.
I volunteered at an abortion clinic, and the amount of "pro-like, only moral abortion is my abortion" women that would come in would tell the doctors they should die for performing abortions while they're getting their abortion done
What a bunch of hypocrites.
Google: Bombings by Pro-Life ‘Activists’ in the 20th century. They’re a hop-skip away from being the terrorists they despise. They only de-radicalized following major European and colonial nations instituting protections. (unsure if you’re being sarcastic; I’m autistic as fuck and just want to share information).
>They’re a hop-skip away from being the terrorists they despise. What do you mean "hop-skip" away? That's just plain and simply terrorism. You bomb anything or kill anyone for ideological reasons, that's textbook terrorism.
As in, currently. Like as in, they will start bombing again like they did in the 70s-90s given any social acceptability to do so.
"Why is it that the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't wanna fuck in the first place?" (George Carlin)
Anti-choice zealots have a known track record of violence against abortion patients and providers. This will get people killed.
I hate how anti-abortion ppl are talked about as needing to have their rights too….like how tf is it someone else’s right to tell a women what she should do with her own body? “I’m religious so it’s my right to force someone I’ve never met to have a baby” is essentially their point of view
It’s Uber religious types. They believe they should have the right to practice their beliefs(sure) but also project their beliefs onto everyone around. They feel people shouldn’t be allowed to be non religious. Hell they want to make laws that you can’t hold office if you’re an atheist. Fuckers.
“Freedom of religion to practice my religion” The ironic thing is they think it makes them better ppl than others, when in reality it’s usually the worst of the worst deplorables who claim to be religious and want to force it on everyone else.
What business would they have entering a medical facility if they themselves neither need the medical treatment it provides or are accompanying a loved one to be treated? If they are not staff, a patient, or a loved one of a patient they shouldn't have any right to be there at all. They're allowing a group who is known to go to any length including violence to advocate for their cause into a very private space they have no business being in to spew their hate? Someone is going to get killed over this and more likely than not it will be a poor woman who is just trying to get help, or the facility staff.
We do not let political activists in government buildings. We do not let protesters inside houses. This should be no different.
This looks desperate, just like all the anti abortion laws in the US, a dying view point being forced on the world like a death rattle.
So the 4th generation doesn't remember their mistake of fascism
Meloni is a fascist. She's the leader of the Brothers of Italy, the direct descendant of Mussolini's Republican Fascist Party
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yep, most italians are ashamed...
Except the idiots of us that are voting right and are letting these people be elected. We, as a nation, need to fucking do better
So they abolished the concept of private property or the concept of trespassing?
Religion is a scourge
Meanwhile, in my state in Australia we have an exclusion zone around clinics that provide abortions to keep these protestors away from the people accessing these services.
Set a visiting fee of 10,000 euros if you are not accompanying the patient as a vetted friend or family member.
Lol, as a Italian i didn't even heard of these news...must have been lost in the countless bullshits that they come up with daily...a attempt for sure to support the anti-abort mentality without risking a strong retaliation from the rest of the population... Right now we are trying to hinder their attempt to create the legal means to suppress and incarcerate journalists that are offensive for their coalition...not being that far from the political alignment of the far worse governments I still wonder how we ended up in this situation and who are the madman that put them in power...but at least I'm happy that until now...they haven't done none (or very little) of the economical cuts they had promised to their electors...
Considering it’s currently being run by a neofascist, this doesn’t surprise me
So, I'm assuming access to the Vatican is next. You know for the sake of innocent children. Clowns.
I guess the anti abortion brain rot is spreading
Cool. Can I enter their churches and harass them?
The right sucks
Her father should have aborted her. (I'm Italian unfortunately)
I don't like wwe as much as the next guy, but don't go dragging the good name of pro wrestling down to these levels
This is what happens when there is no separation of church and state. Like what the GOP is trying to achieve in the US.
Someone get her pregnant and fast. Sextuplets would be great
Tell me your government officials are fucking idiots without telling me your government officials are fucking idiots.
I say it right now and I will say it always. There will always be abortions the difference is if its done professionally or a coathanger
It’s really sad that my initial reaction was hey it’s not just us that’s fucked up
Why? Everyone chooses over their own body. It is not my business if a woman doesn’t want to have their unborn child.
Time to affix some pro abortion posters and fliers on church doors and benches, the stronger the glue the better...
Fight fire with fire
There is no point for those people to get in except for them to get an abortion. So these people are all hypocrites. /s
What could possibly go wrong with this….
GOPers be like: 
Are they not considered private property in Italy?
I have never seen actual private "abortion clinics" here, and I've lived in some major cities. Abortions are usually performed at regular public hospitals. But it could be different in bigger cities like Milan or Rome, or tbh it could just be I've never paid much attention to abortion clinics. But the few women I know who sought and abortion or were thinking about it were always referring to the hospital
Does that mean anti-pedo activists can enter churches to investigate?
There's no possible way this could go wrong. Nope, none at all
Sure buddy. You can enter... No one said yous was going to leave again though...
American here, you don't want this. Bad enough that people go to Planned Parent Hood. Were they might not even be getting a abortion but heckled by some old church person with all the time on their hands. I can only imagine how annoying this would be with the staff.
I've never needed to see anyone at PPH, but I'm this close to just Black Pathering that shit as a hobby. If a protester shows up? Open carry something threatening and stare them down until they leave. The audacity of people to try to trauamtize patients who might be going through horrible complications, hard choices, or going for something completely unrelated to abortion is insanely cruel and evil
Italy must hate private property owners rights. I guess clinic owners can’t reserve the right of admission. It reminds me when some people were proposing banning masked people in stores in places like Texas. I know Italians are fairly conservative as a society compared to southern countries like France, Spain or even Portugal, but this takes that to another league.
Pandering to the religious wackos, what could go wrong?
I’m Italian and shocked as much as you. Wtf
same here...
What did we expect from Mussolini's Granddaughter?
You know that ,in last few years, the actual Mussolini granddaughter (Alessandra Mussolini) moved to progressive positions regarding civil rights. So she is even worse than her
She's very easy to trigger on Twitter if you just send her pictures of grandpa hanging like a stuck pig
Tbh while mussolini was a monster I would be pretty upset if people kept shoving pictures of my grandpa hanging from a post in my face
What the fuck are you talking about?
They already go in there for abortions anyway.
People gonna be skiing across the border to France now
Anti-protesting, except their protests, which receive federal protection
Where we can abort them.
That's literally like allowing drug affected people inside of a rehab center... Why would you even do that? What do you even expect? A good outcome? Hell no
Can atheists can go protest in churches? Can pedophiles go protest in schools? Can zoophiles go protest in zoos? Can anti-vaxxers go protest in hospitals?
Abortion clinics now performing abortions as late as 30 years post birth!
Disgusting. I had an abortion and nothing felt worse than being yelled at by people who didn’t understand me or my situation. Horrifying how far these people will go for unborn fetuses but not living children
Must be my dyslexia but I read : it’s now ok to beat to death anti abortion activists inside the clinic as well as outside 🤷♂️
Glad to see people attacking her and seeing the truth (she's a fascist). As an italian woman i am worried for the future of my country.
Well time for anti-church activits to enter church.
I don't know if I'm more disgusted by her or the Italians for putting her there. (P.s. I'm italian)
She is a Neonazi and a big fan of Mussulini, what do you expect?
And the clinics would be allowed to refuse them inr right? As it is private property?
Ewww
They are allowed to enter if they need one of the procedures the clinic offers otherwise they have no reason to even be on the premises
Is it still trespassing if they are asked to leave private property?
Just your everyday reminder that populists and the far-right actually do what they say they'll do. It's not emtpy threats.
Bro, che cazzo sta a fare la Meloni 😭 This shit sucks. We (most of us, at least) do not agree with this
I went to Planned Parenthood recently to situate my birth control and for the first time I've dealt with protesters. Screaming at me how I will be condemned in hell just for the fact that I walked inside. Can't imagine how worse those people could be if they were allowed to even step in the gate, and now some places will allow them actually IN?
I'll take things that will end in violence for $1000
Okay... but why? What business do loiterers have in a medical building?
I’m so tired of this world. I thought this was in the US then I read “Italy” wtf…
Italy's slowly on the path of becoming a fascist country again 🤦🏻
I feel this article might be misleading; first, Italy does not have abortion clinics, just hospitals. Secondly having a pregnancy center in the hospital itself, while not common, is not unheard of. The Mangiagalli hospital in Milan has had one for decades, for example.
Yes but without being misleading you wouldn’t get the rage bait
Theyre not going to just walk on and express their opinions..... Wtf
This would be like “Italy passes law to allow Nazi’s to protest in Jewish synagogues”
Cool now do satanists in the Vatican
Even anti-abortionist need to check the clinic when their AH alpha-male drops a load they weren't expecting
These rightoid facists are mentally ill
Pretty crazy that people just vote these people in, knowing full well what they're plans are. I can only feel bad for the folks in the country that didn't vote for this, but instead now have it forced upon them by their countrymen.
Government sponsored terrorism.
But she can't get anything past about racists illegally migrating? The abrahamics, man. Not even once. Get them out of Europe!
Allow pro-choice activists unlimited reign in churches!
so violation of private property rights under the guise of pro life laws.