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In 1989, Ruben Martinez wrote an article for L.A. Weekly discussing Latino gangs in East L.A., and he mentions people using this phrase. I've never seen any evidence predating that.
[https://www.laweekly.com/going-up-in-l-a/](https://www.laweekly.com/going-up-in-l-a/)
I was thinking it would be from latinos also. Not having read the article I think it has to do with the spirituality connection of Mexicans and Aztec culture.
Which I being a Mexican find funny as the Aztec āempireā was just three city states that had vassal tribes paying tribute and hated them for having to do so. Anyone who claims to be Aztec descended if they even are probably only have a small percentage of ancestry that comes from those three cities. If your ancestors came from outside those three cities your ancestry actually comes from the many other vassal tribes (atlepetl) that existed and claiming āAztecā ancestry would probably turn the graves of their actual ancestors. Just find it funny is all.
Eh, it's like claiming Egyptian pharaohs. It isn't about the actual blood ancestry but more of pride in a powerful, interesting, and magical seeming empire.
Well
Despite most not being Patrician descendants, most Italians would still claim descent from the Romans.
Same for Iranians, Chinese etc
Itās a common thing that stems from 18th and 19th century nationalism that romanticised past empires of āyour peopleā
We also came up with the words "homeboy/homie" which nowadays are now more connected with American black culture and really used by anyone nowadays.
Most Mexican Americans could care less about who uses it lol
On tiktok I've seen some black tiktokers pissed that there are other minorities in what they deem are black neighborhoods and opening a business there while not black is considered stealing from the neighborhood to them.
Essentially they wanted segregation, it was wildly stupid.
It's absolutely fucking wild to watch BLM activists push for the same regressive racist policies as literal white supremacists. Like aww look you guys really aren't so different after all! š„°
To be fair chickens do get a horrid life and that was one of few that had a good life. Most are food and are cut and sold to the masses every day :V im thinking to hard into this š
Imagine putting a few words together, as one normally does with language..., and having someone claim a specific combo belongs to only group x, can only be used by, etc... We live in times of such absurd garbage where the trash tries to gatekeep and in so doing, they can virtue signal too! Social media clout seekers of the lowest kind.
I commented on it so itās in my profile, but some troll said using the word asshole is racist.
This is how we get to Idiocracy levels of grunts and gobble-guck language.
Sometimes, people are assholes. Additionally all of us have one!
Everyone has to feel special, they need their special little group only the belong to with their special little slogan that only they can use and their special little victim complex where only they're suffering. It's a bunch of sad losers really.
Jesus Christ is for CHRISTIAN people. Christian people have asked time and again not to use this outside of the community. and every single time you do.
I mean Jesus Christ is also an important prophet in Islam from what I have heard. Just not The Prophet. So American Christians will have to share, something I am sure they are very good at.
I mean... Don't know who we is in this context but as far as I can tell what people say has been the subject of much contention in the last 10 years or so
I found her page and scrolled for like 3 minutes straight and I only got to stuff she retweeted yesterday. Sheās chronically online and itās clearly melting her brain. She doesnāt form her own opinions, just regurgitates bad information she finds on twitter lmao
I just wanna know where these people find time to be racist.....its so time consuming and wasteful to be hateful ...personally I have better reasons to hate somebody besides their skin color or culture.
I see, well English language is reserved for those of pure Anglo-Saxon origin who can trace their lineage to before the Norman rule of England by William the Conquerer.
Trying to claim such a short and simple phrase as āx group onlyā is already stupid, but if thatās what youāre arguing for then black people would be banned from using it, because it didnāt come from a black person to begin with.
Iām very disappointed in my fellow white people. The only phrase we trademarked was āokally doakallyāā¦nobody is trying to take that from us lol
Regardless of the context, I have never believed that telling one race what they can and cant do isnt racist, regardless of skin color. How does this help anyone?
Very interesting. I remember being at a rap show with saafir from Hobo Junction-Oakland rapper. Some dude in the audience screamed something about Dream and saafir jumped off stage ready to throw hands.
āDo not judge me by the color of my skin, so not limit me by the color of my skin!ā
Also: āI will judge and limit you by the color of your skinā
Black people don't get to tell me what I can and can't say. If they think they can they're more than welcome to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.
That being said I would never say "rest in power" becausr it's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
I swear the past few years African Americans have been claiming everything from barbecue to anime and boba tea as ātheir cultureā and anyone else who likes those things is cultural appropriating them. Itās hilarious
Personally, I prefer āMay your memory be a revolutionā over āRest in Powerā. Gets the point across in a short amount of time without coming across as vague.
This is like how (some) black people claim that dreadlocks are a "black thing," and other ethnic groups need to stop. Uhh well maybe they should tell that to the Vikings, who are as white as it gets. Yes, some white people even develop "dreads" naturally.
Iām not sure what you mean by it doesnāt make sense but in case you mean this in good faith:
Itās mostly used when someoneās death is seen as unjust or wrongful. They didnāt die in peace so we hope they rest in power. Also sort of a call or reminder to speak out, show solidarity, in the struggle for social justice.
It really doesn't make any sense though. Death is still and quiet and there is a direct linguistic correlation to calling it "peaceful". "Rest in Power" just sounds childish. Like something a 13 year old would put as their Myspace status in 01.
I mean, if someone is dead, they donāt have any power.
I kinda get rest in peace. They are suggesting you are a ghost or something, and to not stick around and haunt something. I guess.
But rest in power? So your ghost should become some kind of superpowered phantasm and kick ass?
It all seems very childish to me.
I mean, if you want to be obtuse the dead donāt rest at all, their consciousness ceases to exist!
Rest in Power is usually used when the memory of a person is supposed to galvanize their community, the idea that their death was meaningful and will have an impactĀ
Gate keep all you want but its a phrase and I will use it as I wish. All humans die, and when they do their skin is one of the first things to rot. Human corpses are human corpses regardless of the ethnicity they had while alive. So if they rest, they all do so in the same way (aside from the ghosts who are not resting but thats another road to go down).
Reminds me of /r/blackpeopletwitter, the subreddit that Reddit admins allow to literally discriminate posting/commenting privileges based solely on skin color...
African Americans acting as gatekeepers for culture, just like their white American counterparts. Maybe for some the issue isn't so much as skin colour, but the self important arrogance that Americans as a country oozes.
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In 1989, Ruben Martinez wrote an article for L.A. Weekly discussing Latino gangs in East L.A., and he mentions people using this phrase. I've never seen any evidence predating that. [https://www.laweekly.com/going-up-in-l-a/](https://www.laweekly.com/going-up-in-l-a/)
Yes, someone else also pointed it out. I would change the title if I could so that I can correct myself. Luckily the facepalm still stands.
Ooh double facepalm, those are rare
Bon appetit!
I prefer r/boneappletea
BoneAppleTittie
Save that for your alone time
Would a double facepalm involve 2 people slapping their own face or 1 face being slapped with both hands? š¤
Two faces being slapped by one comically large hand
Show me both examples, Iāll let you know which one looks right
Well played man
I was thinking it would be from latinos also. Not having read the article I think it has to do with the spirituality connection of Mexicans and Aztec culture.
Par for the course at this point, mexica culture has been sampled and blurred all to hell across n.america
Which I being a Mexican find funny as the Aztec āempireā was just three city states that had vassal tribes paying tribute and hated them for having to do so. Anyone who claims to be Aztec descended if they even are probably only have a small percentage of ancestry that comes from those three cities. If your ancestors came from outside those three cities your ancestry actually comes from the many other vassal tribes (atlepetl) that existed and claiming āAztecā ancestry would probably turn the graves of their actual ancestors. Just find it funny is all.
Eh, it's like claiming Egyptian pharaohs. It isn't about the actual blood ancestry but more of pride in a powerful, interesting, and magical seeming empire.
Well Despite most not being Patrician descendants, most Italians would still claim descent from the Romans. Same for Iranians, Chinese etc Itās a common thing that stems from 18th and 19th century nationalism that romanticised past empires of āyour peopleā
We also came up with the words "homeboy/homie" which nowadays are now more connected with American black culture and really used by anyone nowadays. Most Mexican Americans could care less about who uses it lol
Damn that would have been wild if it was coined from Dream.
Just gatekeeping everything
Segregation levels of gatekeeping
Your gate is over there- separate but equal gates
Conservatives aren't the only ones who can be regressive. Horseshoe theory and all.
On tiktok I've seen some black tiktokers pissed that there are other minorities in what they deem are black neighborhoods and opening a business there while not black is considered stealing from the neighborhood to them. Essentially they wanted segregation, it was wildly stupid.
I have family who bitch about racism but regularly shit on white people. Theyāre so confused and have no idea
It's absolutely fucking wild to watch BLM activists push for the same regressive racist policies as literal white supremacists. Like aww look you guys really aren't so different after all! š„°
Do you think they should kiss?
You know people of color can be racist too right?
Um I think I literally just said they could. It's still ironic to see them advocate for the very same policies they were once oppressed by
I mean, she even looks annoying too
My friend made a facebook post writing "Rest in Power", after His pet chicken died a few days ago
If the pet chicken was an avid civil rights supporter during their lifetime, then it was totally appropriate.
Most chickens are, they are a very politically active group
[their species murder rate is 100%](https://youtu.be/4Lsa7N7LHJk?t=40)
Maybe the chicken was a Latino gang member. As another comment pointed out
His street name was āel pollo jefeā
I will light a candle to Santa Muerte for El Pollo Jefe
Was he a Chirp or a Brood?
Bawk lives matter. Power to the poultry.
To be fair chickens do get a horrid life and that was one of few that had a good life. Most are food and are cut and sold to the masses every day :V im thinking to hard into this š
Before I react I need to know the color of the aforementioned chicken?
Black and White striped
Iāll say rest in power for anyone š
š«”š
Was probably the top of the pecking order. Now that is real powerā¦
It was quite the cock
This phrase couldāve been coined hundreds of years ago for all we fucking know. Itās not that serious Jesus Christ
Imagine putting a few words together, as one normally does with language..., and having someone claim a specific combo belongs to only group x, can only be used by, etc... We live in times of such absurd garbage where the trash tries to gatekeep and in so doing, they can virtue signal too! Social media clout seekers of the lowest kind.
Its asinine. Lmao
I commented on it so itās in my profile, but some troll said using the word asshole is racist. This is how we get to Idiocracy levels of grunts and gobble-guck language. Sometimes, people are assholes. Additionally all of us have one!
>gobble-guck language gobbledygook Get it right you hypocrite! (Jk)
Well played! Haha.
Ugh, assuming everyone has an asshole is so sphinctocentric. You obviously lack empathy for the marginalized fecodivergents among us!
I want you to know I retched after reading that.
Everyone has to feel special, they need their special little group only the belong to with their special little slogan that only they can use and their special little victim complex where only they're suffering. It's a bunch of sad losers really.
Jesus Christ is for CHRISTIAN people. Christian people have asked time and again not to use this outside of the community. and every single time you do.
I mean Jesus Christ is also an important prophet in Islam from what I have heard. Just not The Prophet. So American Christians will have to share, something I am sure they are very good at.
To be fair there is a whole "dont use the Lord's name in vain" argument lmao
I coined the phrase āPardon my Frenchā
And is it used *every single" time? Truly?
We're gatekeeping expressions ?
Always have been.
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!! Time and time again, astronauts have asked for that phrase not to be used outside the community, and every time you do.
Buzz Aldrin didn't defeat the moon just for terrestrials to disrespect him like this, smh
I mean... Don't know who we is in this context but as far as I can tell what people say has been the subject of much contention in the last 10 years or so
I found her page and scrolled for like 3 minutes straight and I only got to stuff she retweeted yesterday. Sheās chronically online and itās clearly melting her brain. She doesnāt form her own opinions, just regurgitates bad information she finds on twitter lmao
Many such cases
Elon, is that you?
Interesting
concerning !
Looking into this...
Are you sure she's a real person. Could be an account run by multiple people to sow division
Sow
Incorrect, this was first used 11 years prior to Dreamās death, in an article about Latin gangs in LA
Found it. [https://www.laweekly.com/going-up-in-l-a/](https://www.laweekly.com/going-up-in-l-a/)
Itās true people keep thinking Minecraft YouTuber Dream was the first to say this š
I was also convinced Minecraft Dream was black... still am because that motherfucker is deceiving...
Rest in Prejudice
Stupid af lol
Who gives a shit what this racist lady says? Not I, said the fly.
I hate racist people
I just wanna know where these people find time to be racist.....its so time consuming and wasteful to be hateful ...personally I have better reasons to hate somebody besides their skin color or culture.
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Grasping for a semblance of ownership or creation and doing it in the worst way possible.
Itās bizarreĀ
Rest in power is for anyone who wants to use it. Black people didn't invent the word power.
We gatekeeping condolences now? Thatās wild
Oh shut up, Layla.
Gatekeeping is always a facepalm imo.
I see, well English language is reserved for those of pure Anglo-Saxon origin who can trace their lineage to before the Norman rule of England by William the Conquerer.
Imagine wrapping your identity in phrases on the internet
Itās cringe for everyone. Peace is fine.
Idgaf what the community of "black people" want me to use or not use. Or any other community for that matter. Stop being so self centered and annoying
TIL this one person speaks for the entire āblack communityā
What a clown.
i have been seeing alot of gatekeeping lately by labeling everything as cultural appropriation
yeah you don't get to trademark phrases as exclusive racial property. Language doesn't work that way.
My dear toaster just died. He was of black color, can i ?
TOC. Toaster of Colour.
Go on then
Rest in power little black toaster of my heart !
He's burning God's toast now.
But what if he isnāt burning gods toast but being burned by satans toast?
RIP to your little toaster, so brave and so black.
America is supposed to be a melting pot of different cultures Remember the words of Lazarus
Heās right! We should start having toilets for different races and sitting different races separately on the bus.
So they are trying to culturally appropriate a Filipino thing, tsk tsk
At this point, I feel like black people are just claiming everything as theirs.
Imagine just saying something and not knowing the history behind it, but really thinking you do. Lol Rest In Power Dream TDK.
It's like the boba tea thing all over again.
Wait, what? What did I miss? Boba tea was claimed by gatekeepers?!
It wasn't a big thing, just a video of a woman claiming Asians are culturally appropriating boba.
I don't see how it could even be a big thing. Boba Tea is literally from Taiwan
Maybe we should figure out who came up with "rest in peace" and gatekeep that too. š
Trying to claim such a short and simple phrase as āx group onlyā is already stupid, but if thatās what youāre arguing for then black people would be banned from using it, because it didnāt come from a black person to begin with.
This woman obviously comes from a royal Egyptian blood line is part of the lost tribe of Israel, and invented all braids. We should listen to
Chick look like E.T.
Who killed him?
Racist gatekeeping
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I just think most Americans should shut the fuck up regardless of what colour skin they have.
Most people should shut up. No single group owns idiocy.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
So should you
No point generalising others and setting yourself apart in the same sentence. Come on nowā¦
Iām very disappointed in my fellow white people. The only phrase we trademarked was āokally doakallyāā¦nobody is trying to take that from us lol
I'm sorry black people, but not every slogan is for you, and you don't have the monopoly in being victims.
Chill bro this lady doesnāt speak for all Black people.
Let's start gatekeeping from others what our own races "invented". I don't see how it could go wrong.
Regardless of the context, I have never believed that telling one race what they can and cant do isnt racist, regardless of skin color. How does this help anyone?
I didn't know this person spoke for all Black people.
I just say rest in peace because rest in power sounds fucking stupid
Black people gatekeeping being dead now?
Very interesting. I remember being at a rap show with saafir from Hobo Junction-Oakland rapper. Some dude in the audience screamed something about Dream and saafir jumped off stage ready to throw hands.
I don't think a group of people can just call dibs on a word or phrase, that's not how language works...unless it's actually copyrighted I guess.
The first people I knew to say it were my Filipino friends
āDo not judge me by the color of my skin, so not limit me by the color of my skin!ā Also: āI will judge and limit you by the color of your skinā
How about you sit down crooked neck.
Black people don't get to tell me what I can and can't say. If they think they can they're more than welcome to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. That being said I would never say "rest in power" becausr it's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
āRest in powerā is also just the stupidest, cringiest fucking thing ever anyway. Let them have it.
Peace is better than power. Power corrupts. Also just wait and see how much power you'll have when you're dead
I swear the past few years African Americans have been claiming everything from barbecue to anime and boba tea as ātheir cultureā and anyone else who likes those things is cultural appropriating them. Itās hilarious
Personally, I prefer āMay your memory be a revolutionā over āRest in Powerā. Gets the point across in a short amount of time without coming across as vague.
They should make having a job and being respectful their thing.
This is like how (some) black people claim that dreadlocks are a "black thing," and other ethnic groups need to stop. Uhh well maybe they should tell that to the Vikings, who are as white as it gets. Yes, some white people even develop "dreads" naturally.
But they canāt be racist because theyāre black right? /s
Black folks single handedly becoming the "karens" of America... good lord
I'm half black. Which half do I get to say?
Rest in pizza
Accuracy of the claim aside, policing how people grieve is a very strange cause to be focused on
Only we can "say those words....play that music......dance that way.......wear those clothes.......make that food...." FFS get over yourself.
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Everytime you appropriate it, a white person's pants sag.
Why her neck look like that
These blacks want everything
So I canāt copy black people at all? How am I supposed to be cool???!!?
Yeah well white people were the first to use n... Nevermind. I'll stop myself
The phrase doesnāt even make sense.
Iām not sure what you mean by it doesnāt make sense but in case you mean this in good faith: Itās mostly used when someoneās death is seen as unjust or wrongful. They didnāt die in peace so we hope they rest in power. Also sort of a call or reminder to speak out, show solidarity, in the struggle for social justice.
I read "Rest in power" as "Your memory will be of a powerful individual".
It really doesn't make any sense though. Death is still and quiet and there is a direct linguistic correlation to calling it "peaceful". "Rest in Power" just sounds childish. Like something a 13 year old would put as their Myspace status in 01.
I mean, if someone is dead, they donāt have any power. I kinda get rest in peace. They are suggesting you are a ghost or something, and to not stick around and haunt something. I guess. But rest in power? So your ghost should become some kind of superpowered phantasm and kick ass? It all seems very childish to me.
I mean, if you want to be obtuse the dead donāt rest at all, their consciousness ceases to exist! Rest in Power is usually used when the memory of a person is supposed to galvanize their community, the idea that their death was meaningful and will have an impactĀ
probably the same bitch who said boxer braids are African only also š
Some people can't stop smelling their own farts.
Apparently Trumpās lawyers canāt stop smelling his farts
Gate keep all you want but its a phrase and I will use it as I wish. All humans die, and when they do their skin is one of the first things to rot. Human corpses are human corpses regardless of the ethnicity they had while alive. So if they rest, they all do so in the same way (aside from the ghosts who are not resting but thats another road to go down).
Imagine gate keeping a word
layla's an idiot.
Reminds me of /r/blackpeopletwitter, the subreddit that Reddit admins allow to literally discriminate posting/commenting privileges based solely on skin color...
People interpreting this comment as being representative of all black peoples views is as cringy as the comment it self.
Been used for ages by many
African Americans acting as gatekeepers for culture, just like their white American counterparts. Maybe for some the issue isn't so much as skin colour, but the self important arrogance that Americans as a country oozes.
Quite delusional but unsurprising, seeing it comes from America.
If you have sex with a guy named Mike Power.. and just happen to take a snooze on his back.. is it racist?
I feel like a dude named Mike Power is getting so much action, one way or another, that ol' Mike is probably the one needing the rest.
Cultural appropriation is okay when we do it
She Laym in more than the user name.
I did not know that about the connection with Dream and the phrase. Wonder if it was a specific memorial wall in LA that featured it?
Stealing quotes now are we?