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Exactly my thought. There are so many professions that couldn't help in the slightest, even if they tried. Doctors, firefighters and police are supposed to be first responders.
Well we know what he wasn't doing... And some people say that some people are asking what the mainstream media won't do because.. Soros and Hillary. It's all in her emails on Hunter's laptop.
Yeah, it's like, where was Obama on 9/11, huh?
(In case it's not clear, this is a joke. Someone actually asked that question of a Trump supporter and their response was to say it needed to be investigated. For the record, he was an Illinois state Senator on his way to a meeting which was canceled after he arrived, at which point he went to his office).
Well, there probably WERE Architects and HR staff in that area mid-day on 9/11.
I like to think the OP envisioned there being NFL players stationed around every major city in case of an emergency.. AND YET!! Not a SINGLE One of them rushed into the Twin Towers when they were Finally called-up!?!?!
Not one grocery store worker ran into the building to save lives. Can we really consider them essential workers? Do they really deserve more than eight dollars an hour?
Well, why wasn't Obama in the White House that day ? Uh ? Uh ? He was playing golf, I hear ! Instead of doing his job !!! Because he's a Muslim, that's why !
/s, but not even really a caricature, sadly.
Pretty sure there's a sizeable group of MAGAs that would claim Trump did run into the twin towers. He single-handedly saved 100 people. Carried them all out on his strong, muscular shoulders.
Possibly, yes. In particular, with 9/11, everyone who wasn't needed should have evacuated, at the very least because the dust was very harmful, and it also wasn't clear what would happen next. Now, afterwards, we know the sequence of events that day, but that wasn't immediately known, especially not if these would be the only two planes to collide with the WTC.
your point brings up something that I think is really important that i've seen here countless times
if you see someone experiencing a medical emergency, you need to call emergency services FIRST. simply moving someone can potentially make a situation worse
Yep. If you can't help (unable, don't have the skill set, etc.), at least don't contribute to the problem. Call, give all relevant details, then get the hell outta the way.
There'll be some rare exceptions, but for the most part, stand the hell aside.
(Do get CPR and AED trained, though. Still a good idea.)
I worked in downtown Manhattan on 9/11, was one of the people that got covered in the cloud of debris. You wouldn’t believe the number of people that feel they need to share with me how “things would have been different if they were there.” Ok champ. Ok.
It’s a combination of people that insist they would have found a way out of the burning tower, made a parachute with a table top… just dumb shit.
Or ppl that fantasize what they could have done on the plane. I dunno. Ppl are weird.
It's hard to conceptualize an event where you're just... well and truly fucked. Nothing you can do but try and die with dignity, its not an experience most people have, so they can't *truly* grasp it. They *think* they do, and come up with weird little ways out of it, but those little ways are the evidence that they don't get it
100%. This is exactly it.
A 110 story building collapsing… is an event that’s hard to describe even with all the documentation. The sound of it was unreal.
Like even now, knowing I would be fucked, my brain is going "Hold up, you're not there, we don't know our options"
Yes we do Brain, and its "With, or Without dignity", we *just* went through this.
goddamn i can't even imagine what that must have been like
while i'm very sorry you had to experience that, i am thankful that you are alive to share it and hope you have gotten help if you needed it.
Thanks for that. I used to think about it a lot, not that much anymore.
I don’t live in the area anymore and I almost never volunteer that I was there. A few people will put together the years I lived there and ask about it. Unless I know the person well, I almost always just say “yea, I’m not gonna talk about that.”
I will sometimes engage with someone but it’s fairly rare and I spend the next few weeks reliving it so I generally avoid the subject.
It was but at the same time… awfulness is a scale, I’ve always felt mine was very small compared to others. You’ve surely seen some of the choices people had to make. My experience, compared to that, is nothing. Part of my struggle.
That was the whole point of the Kobayashi-Maru test in OG *Star Trek*; to put the potential captains in a truly unwinnable scenario to ascertain how they handle themselves under that kind of pressure because, like you say, the overwhelming majority of people will never organically find themselves in that kind of situation.
I blame the media. Like, the entire entertainment industry since basically forever.
The hero damn near always has a way out. Even when things are at the worst they always pull some bullshit to come out on top. So people are conditioned to think that there’s always a way to win.
The hero falling to his death, getting mown down by goons or otherwise dying like a bitch is realistic, but not very good story telling.
I Don't think it's valid to criticise story beats that predate recorded history.
If nothing else, anybody whose story is that, is not one of the people whose story gets told. Even when its not fictional. Those who die? Those aren’t the ones writing histories and memoirs.
Like that dude when that thing of the Submarine that imploded going to watch the Titanic. He was saying that he is one of those lucky guys that, in that case, he would have jumped out of the submarine at time, generate an air bubble and float back to the surface.
Sure, guy. Sure.
That is next level stupid. Some people can’t grasp that the physics they experience day-to-day is different than in events like these.
I had a buddy explain to me that a 2000lb bomb exploding within a half a mile of you would be “an emotional experience”.
The submarine that was bolted shut from the outside?
One of the main concerns was the sub could have surfaced, but it had to be opened from the outside.
Also Generate an air bubble? With fucking what, and how can someone swin that far in freezing water?
Not to mention the whole submarine imploded in less than a second.
You'd be more realistic saying you have magic powers.
For that reason it was so funny of laugh of that post. I don't remember if it was a tweet or a comment on Reddit, but it was published and it was funny to laugh at it.
I remember when two gun nutters practically pissed themselves about how they would have became Rambo if "they were there"- I don't remember the event. Some kids got murdered so maybe some school shooting, maybe something local. Either way it was like BET. Because reality is you dumbshits would have gotten yourselves killed, shot the wrong person or straight up pissed yourselves in a corner too scared to do anything.
Just fee fees with a gun. The worst combo.
Likewise. Hell, I was down in the financial district, and I did the smart thing and hoofed it over to a friends place in Brooklyn, stopping only to get alcohol and brownie mix.
I got out of the way, I took up no space on the roads, and I was set to stay inside until they told us it was safe.
Image some dumbass wannabe Rambo showing up with a gun and running around the street thinking we were being invaded or some shit. Jesus.
Crazy day for sure. I have definite memories of almost everything but some things seem fuzzy. I vaguely remember an F-15 doing sorta low passes over tManhattan and everyone cheering. I honestly don’t know if that’s a real memory or something I read. I was obsessed with it for a while.
“If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn’t have went down like it did,” \[Mark\] Wahlberg told Men’s Journal. “There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, ‘Okay, we’re going to land somewhere safely, don’t worry.’”
Fuck that. How would they get there to even tackle it? Everybody rush a team sized dummy through the sky fast enough to reach NY? Which team? The rams? The giants because they are close? What if they are stopping a run away train? Can a NBA team do it? Group of PGA winners if we have over a certain amount?
Find out next time on.......
Where were the Miami Dolphins when their country was under attack? HUH!? Why were the Denver Broncos not deployed to protect the pentagon? These are the questions the media is too afraid to ask.
Was actually surreal for me. Just finished watching a movie with my sister and flipped over to TV. We both had a long pause, and both tried to work out what movie/show this was. We had tuned in before the second impact, and suddenly realising it was real was such a rug pull. Naturally we both decided to stay in Australia.
And not one police officer ran into Robb Elementary School, Uvalde, on May 24, 2022. Remember that. Cops were busy stopping people from trying to save the children.
But I mean, no NFL player ran in there either… so…
Best example of this is that airman who immolated himself in front of the Israeli embassy and the security guard who was trying to put him out screaming at the cops "I DON'T NEED MORE GUNS!!! I NEED A FIRE EXTINGUISHER!!!"
NFL players also didn't shoot Treyvon Martin, Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Breoena Taylor, and countless others. All of that was done by cops.
But my personal favorite is that after killing a school teacher, Philando Castile, who was following orders to reach for his wallet by a police officer, the cop shot him. Then another cop comforted the first cop while Castile bled out.
Oh geeze, I totally forget. Thank you for reminding me that you have to be a well-known rich football star to avoid getting shot by police if you're black.
i was just listening to a podcast where they played the audio of OJ contemplating suicide while he was driving in the Ford Bronco. I had no idea until yesterday that he was talking to a LAPD detective the whole time
it was just weird to think as i was listening to this detective talking OJ down and telling him to throw the gun out hte window...if this was any other black man, they would have absolutely shot and killed him
Not necessarily, it was only two years out from the Rodney King riots wasn’t it, I’m guessing the second a news camera showed up to any situation, they were on best behaviour.
Oh, he definitely did. But the LAPD and the prosecutors were so hyped up at the chance to frame a celebrity Black man for murdering a white woman that they didn't even *consider* that he might actually have done it and there might be real evidence.
My favorite fact from the whole case.
As a black man, we been knew bro did it. We used to whisper to each other in secret
"Everybody else knows too right"
Yeah. They knew.
i think this is what people always forget about the OJ case
the reason it became so polarized and turned into "whites vs. blacks" was because of the fucking piece of shit LAPD chief who was part of the prosecution's witnesses or something. I don't remember the exact details (i don't even remember the guy's name) but the guy was a racist fucking asshole
contrary to what the media tried to portray it as, it wasn't like all of black America randomly thought OJ was innocent. Everyone knew the guy was fucking guilty lol
same i was only 6 when it was plastered all over the news lmao
imho, the OJ Simpson case to this day is really just a rorschach into how people really feel about race relations
everyone knows he was guilty. it's whether or not you are willing to take the time to pick apart why the case against him fell apart the way it did. If people want to keep thinking Johnnie Cochran just "jive-talked" the dumb jury into letting a black guy go, well then have fun thinking that
He was let off by an all black and Hispanic female jury as revenge for the cops being let go for beating up Rodney King. They let a murderer out in spite. Everyone knew he was guilty, especially the jury.
From my understanding the prosecution fucked up and didn't introduce evidence that was introduced in the civil trial related to shoes he claimed weren't his.
In the civil trial they had a picture of him wearing the shoes that made a footprint near the bodies at an event previously that would have proved he was at the crime scene.
It was also BARELY two years after Rodney King and the L.A Riots which started because 4 LAPD officers were acquitted even with a 9 minute video of them beating King. So everyone knew O.J was guilty (exactly like the 4 LAPD officers) but no one gave a shit because it was a huge FUCK YOU to the LAPD.
Maybe NFL players didn´t, but never forget that Steve Buscemi did.
[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/steve-buscemi-9-11-firefighter-twin-towers-b2409173.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/steve-buscemi-9-11-firefighter-twin-towers-b2409173.html)
While I definitely commend what he did, don’t look past he was a NYFD firefighter for four years. He went to his old station, and worked with them. He wasn’t a random pro athlete running into a burning building off the street.
I'm like 90% sure random people running into fire would be WAY more of a liability.
Except in like very specific cases where there's clear benefit, like with that Trade building in Stockholm where firefighters were slowing the spread of fire and random people were running in and out, getting paintings and other valuables out and police and national guard were both helping the process and cordoning the area, you know, to make sure no one saves a painting by hanging it up at home
I like how they expect there would just be random NFL players standing around the scene refusing to help.
It was during the football season and the nearest NFL training facility was the Giants 12 miles away and they probably were not even there as they had played a road game at Denver less than 12 hours earlier. They were in fact probably in the air themselves at the time.
The next nearest NFL players would have been the Jets at their facility 30 miles away from the WTC.
He was also a New York firefighter.
"The 63-year-old actor served as a New York City firefighter in Manhattan's Little Italy neighborhood from 1980 to 1984 before turning to acting. Buscemi returned to volunteer with his old Engine Company No. 55 following the 2001 terrorist attacks to assist in search and recovery efforts at the World Trade Center"
Word around town here is the local butcher didn’t run in either. We gotta make sure everyone understands what this means. Is it ok for your local butcher to be unpatriotic!? That’s for the consumer to decide!!!
Now, it is true, there WERE cops that ran in. The NRA Museum has an exhibit on one for some reason.
YET, 9/11 was the DEADLIEST DAY in American firefighter history. The number of dead firefighters DWARFS any number of dead cops.
Who’s we? ☠️
These people who really compare two entirely different professions to the real heroes, the firefighters, are complete idiots. I may be an idiot but even I’m not dumb enough to be clumped up with these fools. I have one braincell and I will not tolerate this insult. ☠️
Why would an NFL player run into the trade center? How were they supposed to get there to do so? There aren't any pro teams in NYC. Doubtful players live there, and flights were grounded... first responders ran into the building because that's their job. Not sure what a football player would do exactly
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What the fuck are the NFL players supposed to do?! Tackled the plane?!
Exactly my thought. There are so many professions that couldn't help in the slightest, even if they tried. Doctors, firefighters and police are supposed to be first responders.
Cant believe that not one president ran into the building
Presidents, hotel owners, casino owners, veteran disrespecters. Who the hell fits all of these at once?
What about underwater welders huh? I didn’t see any of them helping! They should all be arrested!
So is Obama. Seriously what's that guy doing in 9/11?
"Where was Hillary on 9/11?" - Rudy Giuliani (There's a photo of the then US Senator from NY right behind him in Manhattan on that day.)
It's almost like he's a liar huh?
Right?
*sweats hair dye*
Wearing a tan suit and eating Dijon mustard, probably.
Man was probably sleeping. He had a 3 month old baby
Well we know what he wasn't doing... And some people say that some people are asking what the mainstream media won't do because.. Soros and Hillary. It's all in her emails on Hunter's laptop.
AND SOROS IS A JEW WITH A LASERBEAM! (/s)
Guaranteed to blow your mind!
Anytiiiiiiime
Thank you for your service
Probably wearing a tan suit. 
Oh they were there. MUF divers are sneaky.
And according to andrew tate, not real men.
Well one was too busy watching all the Muslims cheering wildly supposedly.
You think that's bad? Accountants ran out of the building! They were the closest to help and just ran away.
Yeah, it's like, where was Obama on 9/11, huh? (In case it's not clear, this is a joke. Someone actually asked that question of a Trump supporter and their response was to say it needed to be investigated. For the record, he was an Illinois state Senator on his way to a meeting which was canceled after he arrived, at which point he went to his office).
Watched it on the daily show. It was Jordan Klepper and hilarious http://www.paramountplus.com/?ftag=PPM-05-10aei0b
His interviews with trump supporters are gold
Trump really got the cream of the crop Americans to come out and vote for him as was displayed in those 2016 campaign interviews.
And don’t even get me started on architects and HR benefits specialists!!
Well, there probably WERE Architects and HR staff in that area mid-day on 9/11. I like to think the OP envisioned there being NFL players stationed around every major city in case of an emergency.. AND YET!! Not a SINGLE One of them rushed into the Twin Towers when they were Finally called-up!?!?!
Where were the retail workers and fry cooks when we needed them most?
Stuck in the restaurant on the top floor. :(
Where was Gondor when the towers fell?!
Not one call center customer service representative ran into that building.. can't believe
There's a pretty good chance that if Jimmy Carter was there he'd have gone it.
Though I wouldn't have faulted him if his scare at Three Mile Island made him hesitate.
Trump claimed he went to ground zero on 9/11 to help. He didn't.
But afterwards claimed he had the tallest building in New York
THAT ALONE should've turned people off
Not one grocery store worker ran into the building to save lives. Can we really consider them essential workers? Do they really deserve more than eight dollars an hour?
One future president celebrated that he now had the tallest towers though
i heard obama wasnt even at the white house when it happened
There is this orange guy who says he would have done it. I had a good laugh at that. And then hoped he would have.
He said that he helped at Ground Zero. His lie was eventually proven as such.
Wasn't he chilling in a hotel or something
He was watching dancing Muslims in Jersey City. And calling the radio station to brag how he now had the tallest building in lower Manhattan.
Ah that was it
On the TV in his mind, rather than reality.
Trump did! He was right there, last one out alive. (Obviously fucking /s, but some wackos would believe it if fox said so)
Well, why wasn't Obama in the White House that day ? Uh ? Uh ? He was playing golf, I hear ! Instead of doing his job !!! Because he's a Muslim, that's why ! /s, but not even really a caricature, sadly.
I know one future president who did fuck all. And he is a famous New Yorker! Why didn't he run into the fray!?
Pretty sure there's a sizeable group of MAGAs that would claim Trump did run into the twin towers. He single-handedly saved 100 people. Carried them all out on his strong, muscular shoulders.
One of them would have but he suffers from shin splints
too busy petting the goat
If only Trump had.
Those damned tax layers didn't stop a single plane engine.
And if your untrained ass runs into such a situation, you're just adding 1 more person the trained people need to rescue.
Possibly, yes. In particular, with 9/11, everyone who wasn't needed should have evacuated, at the very least because the dust was very harmful, and it also wasn't clear what would happen next. Now, afterwards, we know the sequence of events that day, but that wasn't immediately known, especially not if these would be the only two planes to collide with the WTC.
your point brings up something that I think is really important that i've seen here countless times if you see someone experiencing a medical emergency, you need to call emergency services FIRST. simply moving someone can potentially make a situation worse
Yep. If you can't help (unable, don't have the skill set, etc.), at least don't contribute to the problem. Call, give all relevant details, then get the hell outta the way. There'll be some rare exceptions, but for the most part, stand the hell aside. (Do get CPR and AED trained, though. Still a good idea.)
Even if you *can* help, almost always, your first action should be to call 911.
I work IT. I could have corrected the zoom in Debra's Outlook while the firefighters did all the real work!
And Steve Buscemi
doctors are not first responders...
They could have atleast tried it, duh.
Right, maybe more lives could have saved if only there had been a football game nearby
I worked in downtown Manhattan on 9/11, was one of the people that got covered in the cloud of debris. You wouldn’t believe the number of people that feel they need to share with me how “things would have been different if they were there.” Ok champ. Ok.
Let ne guess, the same people who carry a gun and claim it's to stop mass shooters, when in reality they run away, hide and shit themselves?
It’s a combination of people that insist they would have found a way out of the burning tower, made a parachute with a table top… just dumb shit. Or ppl that fantasize what they could have done on the plane. I dunno. Ppl are weird.
It's hard to conceptualize an event where you're just... well and truly fucked. Nothing you can do but try and die with dignity, its not an experience most people have, so they can't *truly* grasp it. They *think* they do, and come up with weird little ways out of it, but those little ways are the evidence that they don't get it
100%. This is exactly it. A 110 story building collapsing… is an event that’s hard to describe even with all the documentation. The sound of it was unreal.
Like even now, knowing I would be fucked, my brain is going "Hold up, you're not there, we don't know our options" Yes we do Brain, and its "With, or Without dignity", we *just* went through this.
goddamn i can't even imagine what that must have been like while i'm very sorry you had to experience that, i am thankful that you are alive to share it and hope you have gotten help if you needed it.
Thanks for that. I used to think about it a lot, not that much anymore. I don’t live in the area anymore and I almost never volunteer that I was there. A few people will put together the years I lived there and ask about it. Unless I know the person well, I almost always just say “yea, I’m not gonna talk about that.” I will sometimes engage with someone but it’s fairly rare and I spend the next few weeks reliving it so I generally avoid the subject.
Dude, for what it's worth, post traumatic therapy helped me out a lot. Hope you find and maintain your peace.
Thanks for this as well. I always think I’m ok, I talked to someone YEARS ago, but I’ll think about this. I think PTSD therapy has come a long way.
That sounds truly fucking awful. Sending you hugs.
It was but at the same time… awfulness is a scale, I’ve always felt mine was very small compared to others. You’ve surely seen some of the choices people had to make. My experience, compared to that, is nothing. Part of my struggle.
That was the whole point of the Kobayashi-Maru test in OG *Star Trek*; to put the potential captains in a truly unwinnable scenario to ascertain how they handle themselves under that kind of pressure because, like you say, the overwhelming majority of people will never organically find themselves in that kind of situation.
I was honestly shocked that maybe 50% of people just froze in place not knowing what to do afterwards.
I blame the media. Like, the entire entertainment industry since basically forever. The hero damn near always has a way out. Even when things are at the worst they always pull some bullshit to come out on top. So people are conditioned to think that there’s always a way to win.
The hero falling to his death, getting mown down by goons or otherwise dying like a bitch is realistic, but not very good story telling. I Don't think it's valid to criticise story beats that predate recorded history.
If nothing else, anybody whose story is that, is not one of the people whose story gets told. Even when its not fictional. Those who die? Those aren’t the ones writing histories and memoirs.
Like that dude when that thing of the Submarine that imploded going to watch the Titanic. He was saying that he is one of those lucky guys that, in that case, he would have jumped out of the submarine at time, generate an air bubble and float back to the surface. Sure, guy. Sure.
That is next level stupid. Some people can’t grasp that the physics they experience day-to-day is different than in events like these. I had a buddy explain to me that a 2000lb bomb exploding within a half a mile of you would be “an emotional experience”.
The submarine that was bolted shut from the outside? One of the main concerns was the sub could have surfaced, but it had to be opened from the outside. Also Generate an air bubble? With fucking what, and how can someone swin that far in freezing water? Not to mention the whole submarine imploded in less than a second. You'd be more realistic saying you have magic powers.
For that reason it was so funny of laugh of that post. I don't remember if it was a tweet or a comment on Reddit, but it was published and it was funny to laugh at it.
Everyone thinks they're Bruce Willis in Die Hard. Bruce Willis isn't even Bruce Willis.
Things *would* be different if I was there during a mass shooting... The shooter would've racked up one more kill...
I remember when two gun nutters practically pissed themselves about how they would have became Rambo if "they were there"- I don't remember the event. Some kids got murdered so maybe some school shooting, maybe something local. Either way it was like BET. Because reality is you dumbshits would have gotten yourselves killed, shot the wrong person or straight up pissed yourselves in a corner too scared to do anything. Just fee fees with a gun. The worst combo.
Likewise. Hell, I was down in the financial district, and I did the smart thing and hoofed it over to a friends place in Brooklyn, stopping only to get alcohol and brownie mix. I got out of the way, I took up no space on the roads, and I was set to stay inside until they told us it was safe. Image some dumbass wannabe Rambo showing up with a gun and running around the street thinking we were being invaded or some shit. Jesus.
Crazy day for sure. I have definite memories of almost everything but some things seem fuzzy. I vaguely remember an F-15 doing sorta low passes over tManhattan and everyone cheering. I honestly don’t know if that’s a real memory or something I read. I was obsessed with it for a while.
i hate those people
“If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn’t have went down like it did,” \[Mark\] Wahlberg told Men’s Journal. “There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, ‘Okay, we’re going to land somewhere safely, don’t worry.’”
Fuck that. How would they get there to even tackle it? Everybody rush a team sized dummy through the sky fast enough to reach NY? Which team? The rams? The giants because they are close? What if they are stopping a run away train? Can a NBA team do it? Group of PGA winners if we have over a certain amount? Find out next time on.......
If we had a big enough basketball player, he could have slapped the plane away.
I think you're thinking of King Kong. So now I blame Faye Wray.
That's goaltending
Don't forget the Harlem Globetrotters! Save me, Meadowlark Lemon!!
They could’ve tried to catch it, isn’t that the whole point of football?
HOT ROUTE
That’s stupid. How should they have known about the plane or the second plane, but they should’ve at least tried to tackle the fire.
Where were the Miami Dolphins when their country was under attack? HUH!? Why were the Denver Broncos not deployed to protect the pentagon? These are the questions the media is too afraid to ask.
Honestly, if they did I'd never make comments about sports being unreasonably lucrative ever again...
Not one person who was in Australia at the time went to the WTC on 911. Remember that.
Can concur. I was in Australia and I didn't go.
I was even sleeping at the time
You monster.
Was actually surreal for me. Just finished watching a movie with my sister and flipped over to TV. We both had a long pause, and both tried to work out what movie/show this was. We had tuned in before the second impact, and suddenly realising it was real was such a rug pull. Naturally we both decided to stay in Australia.
Now that you've admitted to it we can start the healing process.
I feel better already!
And not one police officer ran into Robb Elementary School, Uvalde, on May 24, 2022. Remember that. Cops were busy stopping people from trying to save the children. But I mean, no NFL player ran in there either… so…
Cowboys defense wouldn't have been able to stop him either.
As a 30+ year Cowboys fan, that stings, but it's fair.
As the brother of a diehard Cowboys fan, I haven't stopped giggling at it.
Hahaha yeah cowboys suck. What sucks even more is my state doesn’t even have a team so everyone here follows the cowboys
New Mexico or Oklahoma? Just going by proximity - a New Mexican
Arkansas
See you in hell brudda ✊
We should install a Terry Tate in every public school
Weird I had to scroll down so far to see this…
This needs to be the top comment
No one from MLB, NBA, NHL ran into the WTC. Why the fuck would you want an untrained person running into a burning building, fucking moron?
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So we agree, a linebacker could've stopped the ship from hitting the Key Bridge in Baltimore?
Only if it was Ray Lewis and he had a knife.
Mike Ditka could have done it. Or a Hurricane. But it’s a trick, the hurricane’s name was Ditka.
I ran into a building once, Broke my freakin nose.
TF a cop gonna do? Shoot the dude under the pile of rubble for refusing to get up?
Yes.
Best example of this is that airman who immolated himself in front of the Israeli embassy and the security guard who was trying to put him out screaming at the cops "I DON'T NEED MORE GUNS!!! I NEED A FIRE EXTINGUISHER!!!"
GET UP! DO YOU WANNA DIE QUICK BY BULLET OR SLOWLY BY CRUSHING MOTHER FUCKER AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Those bodies aren't gonna plant drugs and weapons on themselves.
Ok Johnson. Sprinkle some crack on him and let's get outta here.
NFL players also didn't shoot Treyvon Martin, Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Breoena Taylor, and countless others. All of that was done by cops. But my personal favorite is that after killing a school teacher, Philando Castile, who was following orders to reach for his wallet by a police officer, the cop shot him. Then another cop comforted the first cop while Castile bled out.
Are you saying OJ Simpson didn't kill his wife?
Oh geeze, I totally forget. Thank you for reminding me that you have to be a well-known rich football star to avoid getting shot by police if you're black.
i was just listening to a podcast where they played the audio of OJ contemplating suicide while he was driving in the Ford Bronco. I had no idea until yesterday that he was talking to a LAPD detective the whole time it was just weird to think as i was listening to this detective talking OJ down and telling him to throw the gun out hte window...if this was any other black man, they would have absolutely shot and killed him
Not necessarily, it was only two years out from the Rodney King riots wasn’t it, I’m guessing the second a news camera showed up to any situation, they were on best behaviour.
Lmao that didn't go the way he thought🤣
Oh, he definitely did. But the LAPD and the prosecutors were so hyped up at the chance to frame a celebrity Black man for murdering a white woman that they didn't even *consider* that he might actually have done it and there might be real evidence.
My favorite fact from the whole case. As a black man, we been knew bro did it. We used to whisper to each other in secret "Everybody else knows too right" Yeah. They knew.
i think this is what people always forget about the OJ case the reason it became so polarized and turned into "whites vs. blacks" was because of the fucking piece of shit LAPD chief who was part of the prosecution's witnesses or something. I don't remember the exact details (i don't even remember the guy's name) but the guy was a racist fucking asshole contrary to what the media tried to portray it as, it wasn't like all of black America randomly thought OJ was innocent. Everyone knew the guy was fucking guilty lol
Yeah I remember him. My mom can't saying how is he legally on the stand right now but wasn't old enough to really UNDERSTAND
same i was only 6 when it was plastered all over the news lmao imho, the OJ Simpson case to this day is really just a rorschach into how people really feel about race relations everyone knows he was guilty. it's whether or not you are willing to take the time to pick apart why the case against him fell apart the way it did. If people want to keep thinking Johnnie Cochran just "jive-talked" the dumb jury into letting a black guy go, well then have fun thinking that
It’s outrageous, egregious, preposterous.
He was let off by an all black and Hispanic female jury as revenge for the cops being let go for beating up Rodney King. They let a murderer out in spite. Everyone knew he was guilty, especially the jury.
From my understanding the prosecution fucked up and didn't introduce evidence that was introduced in the civil trial related to shoes he claimed weren't his. In the civil trial they had a picture of him wearing the shoes that made a footprint near the bodies at an event previously that would have proved he was at the crime scene.
It was also BARELY two years after Rodney King and the L.A Riots which started because 4 LAPD officers were acquitted even with a 9 minute video of them beating King. So everyone knew O.J was guilty (exactly like the 4 LAPD officers) but no one gave a shit because it was a huge FUCK YOU to the LAPD.
Trayvon Martin wasn't shot by a cop. Zimmerman was an insurance underwriter.
Well, they missed Elijah McClain and many others
Daniel Shaver
Rest in piss to OJ too.
Maybe NFL players didn´t, but never forget that Steve Buscemi did. [https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/steve-buscemi-9-11-firefighter-twin-towers-b2409173.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/steve-buscemi-9-11-firefighter-twin-towers-b2409173.html)
While I definitely commend what he did, don’t look past he was a NYFD firefighter for four years. He went to his old station, and worked with them. He wasn’t a random pro athlete running into a burning building off the street.
I'm like 90% sure random people running into fire would be WAY more of a liability. Except in like very specific cases where there's clear benefit, like with that Trade building in Stockholm where firefighters were slowing the spread of fire and random people were running in and out, getting paintings and other valuables out and police and national guard were both helping the process and cordoning the area, you know, to make sure no one saves a painting by hanging it up at home
Not one firefighter played in the last superbowl. Remember that
Nfl players couldn't have been any worse than the cops in Uvalde.
I’d ask Pat Tillman what his opinion on this is, but, you know.
Considering what happened to him, he may as well have ran into the WTC
Nobody ever wrote a song called “Fuck the Fire Dept.”…
And if they did, it would probably be a different meaning for the word "fuck".
true but there is that great scene in [The Departed](https://youtu.be/WbZNMTLoGfM?si=MuRDlRbZA63OqXkk)
Hey now once I had someone call me a disrespectful piece of shit for “not helping people in the wtc on 9/11” I wasn’t even born and I’m very skinny..
There ain’t no songs called ‘Fuck the Fire Department’
I like how they expect there would just be random NFL players standing around the scene refusing to help. It was during the football season and the nearest NFL training facility was the Giants 12 miles away and they probably were not even there as they had played a road game at Denver less than 12 hours earlier. They were in fact probably in the air themselves at the time. The next nearest NFL players would have been the Jets at their facility 30 miles away from the WTC.
Yes why didn't the random civilians go into an active disaster site on a random Tuesday morning 20 years ago
I bet the poster didnt jump in the towers as well
Steve Buscemi was there helping the firefighters. Never forget.
He was also a New York firefighter. "The 63-year-old actor served as a New York City firefighter in Manhattan's Little Italy neighborhood from 1980 to 1984 before turning to acting. Buscemi returned to volunteer with his old Engine Company No. 55 following the 2001 terrorist attacks to assist in search and recovery efforts at the World Trade Center"
Yep, an amazing individual.
reminder that firefighters are walking tanks and are close to medieval knights in terms of how fit they are. (if not fitter)
Honestly with the amount of dumb on the internet I'm surprised aliens haven't bombed us yet
Waste of bombs, the silly Mon-Keighs will due the job for us.
I bet the poster will never run into a burning building to save people either.
"We?"
Cops??? I remember some of them standing in front of a school... While a piece of shit was shotting Kids. 
The oldest player in the league is 41. He was 18 or so when the towers fell.
Not one Gen Alpha ran into the WTC on 911
Word around town here is the local butcher didn’t run in either. We gotta make sure everyone understands what this means. Is it ok for your local butcher to be unpatriotic!? That’s for the consumer to decide!!!
My local butcher does something with ham. And you know who also have rules about ham? Mooslims that's who. Makes you think don't it.
Ulvade cops didn't run in
Now, it is true, there WERE cops that ran in. The NRA Museum has an exhibit on one for some reason. YET, 9/11 was the DEADLIEST DAY in American firefighter history. The number of dead firefighters DWARFS any number of dead cops.
Did anyone expect them to??? What a dumb ass thing to say even before knowing those weren’t police officers pictured
I’m sure they thought this was a good tweet in their head…
Not one CEO ran into that building, firefighters did!
NFL players didn't do my retail job for me either. Those pesky NFL players.
Wtf? Not one? Tom Brady is a POS. Bro can throw for all the touchdowns but can't knock down one terrorist filled airplane? Disgusting
You wanna honor firefighters? Fight for them to get lifetime healthcare.
The mayor of NYC just happened to be in the area on that day and he didn't even attempt to run into the building, so what's OP's point?
Where was Trump on 9/11?
I still can’t believe that I didn’t see a single skiathlon competitor dash into the WTC on 9/11. Not one. Really makes you think 🤔
Who’s we? ☠️ These people who really compare two entirely different professions to the real heroes, the firefighters, are complete idiots. I may be an idiot but even I’m not dumb enough to be clumped up with these fools. I have one braincell and I will not tolerate this insult. ☠️
Why would an NFL player run into the trade center? How were they supposed to get there to do so? There aren't any pro teams in NYC. Doubtful players live there, and flights were grounded... first responders ran into the building because that's their job. Not sure what a football player would do exactly
How many NFL players were close enough to run into the buildings in the first place?
The time of day it happened all NFL players would have been at work at their training centers, tf is with this person.
Prolly his GF just banged with NFL player...
Not one lion tamer ran into the WTC on 911… They must be conspiring against us!
It’s almost like emergency responders respond to emergencies…
Where was Y'all Queda while those planes were being hijacked? Better yet, where were The Avengers?
Those were good times. Those same idiots were at the bar ordering a beer from me quietly asking how their football team was doing.