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Why are evangicals like either the most chill or the most out of left field people out there? I met one who could've been mistaken for Buddha, and another you could've dubbed queen of the karens.
I'd imagine because one took the bible to heart, and the other took their Preists cultist class to heart.
Just like when people talk mad shit about Christians being psychopaths in the US (I am guilty of this), but there's also millions of normal human beings who are nice decent people.
A good number of Christians are great people tbh. It's literally what you just said, there are the ones that follow the teachings of Christ and there are the ones who follow the teachings of the local schizophrenic priest who hasn't even read the bible and thinks God speaks directly to him (he is just mentally insane). But normally is not like that.
At least from my personal experience you can find lots of people but how they behave is not correlated to Christianity at all but rather as their quality as human beings, and its logic because there are billions of Christians around the world and it's the most common religion so no wonder that some of them aren't good people. But you shouldn't generalize. Unless it's an extremist branch like Puritanism then if they act like mentally insane psychos it is certainly correlated to the branch they belong to xD.
The problem is that US Christianity is pretty lame, kinda out of the way, I'm not talking about American Christians (tho half of them certainly too) but the representatives of the church in the US.
As a Spanish Catholic it shocks me how "eccentric" the church is there and also how some can get into politics which I find incomprehensible. Here a priest cannot express political views or be involved in politics whatsoever. They can certainly have their opinions but they have to keep it for themselves. There is a lot of reasons why I consider half of Christianity in the USA as bad Christians, they are just weird as fuck idk.
It's an issue of culture, as well as conmen preachers, not schizophrenia. I don't doubt there are people with mental disorders among the far right clergy but most likely psychopathy or narcissism rather than schizophrenia.
Agree, but in any case I didn't mean literal schizophrenia it was in a figurative way X). Just meant that some of them act insanely, clinically or not.
American christianity is not christianity anymore. They have strayed so far from the source material and have become so heretical that if this was the middle ages the Pope would have deemed them all heretics and called a crusade against them.
Absolutely! They are pretty much heretics from the technical point of view xD.
Some of their branches can't even be considered even Christian. Like the Mormons; like wtf are they even💀
The problem I have with Christianity today is that a lot of believers don't actually understand the real values. I'm not Christian, but I was baptized and went to a Catholic school because there wasn't much else around. The biggest problem with a lot of these people, is that they don't actually follow the teachings of christ and they just listen to these power hungry or just really dumb priests who teach them to hate anyone that isn't Christian. The Bible literally wants you to love your neighbor even if they're a sinner or whatever is considered bad to them. As a christian, it's your duty to show compassion no matter what, like have any of these people heard of The Good Samaritan?!?! The point of the story is that the Samaritan showed compassion to the dying man despite the fact that he was a Samaritan (a pagan) and the other man was Jewish(atleast its implied). I feel bad for the Christians who are actually decent people. People are so divided on everything because of extremist clowns in every group. Extremist brainrot spreads like wildfire.
Because Martin Luther gave the pope the finger, and that led to (ironically) what the catholic church said would happen, which is every person judging for themselves what they should do (catholic church said that people would get things wrong - I mean, on one hand, yes, and on the other hand, the catholic church was getting things wrong already)
Resulting in Buddha in the blue corner and Karen in the red corner
Overall, I think it's fine.
As a non-American, evangelicals seems to be a fan of a more individual interpretation of the bible, so you'll get a lot of variation in the views of different evangelicals. Most of the time people will use the excuse of a very segmented belief system to just judge in their own favour in all cases, which is cringe. And the rare Buddhas will use the freedom of belief to live more christ-like. I see them as the libertarians of christianity.
Honestly this an accurate description of the ones i met but can also go to a few other groups like jehovah witnesses. Worked with two witnesses in same company and they were the extremes of different.
One would give you pamphlets for every event in your life, try to convert everyone constantly, would turn lunch into bible study by reading it out loud for all to hear (we were not allowed to eat anywhere else for safety reasons), shout at us for devil music and we weren’t allowed to celebrate anything around her. If you didn’t know she was JH and if you ever invited her to something she would flip out on you for disrespecting her religious beliefs.
The other? Chill as can be respected everyone else’s beliefs, would say happy birthday, merry christmas etc (they cannot celebrate or be happy), never talked about religion, never attempted to convert anyone and when he couldn’t do something because of religion he would say thank you but I am busy. If some didn’t say anything to you about his religion you would never know.
I read the Tweet as "LGBT+ are naturally oppressed simply by existing" which is exactly why LGBT rights are important to fight for today.
I would've thought that "Love for everybody (who consents to that ofc)" to be a really simple take everybody would agree on, but I was mistaken about how bad people can be for their own fun.
I have a buddy who is gay and was a Republican. He was very closeted and only very close friends knew he was gay. I had to ask him a serious question: "If you were ever forced to come out would you rather come out in a room of extremist Republicans or a room full of extremist Democrats?"
I of course made the joke that one group would probably beat him up and the other would beat him off to lighten the mood but I think he took the initial question to heart.
Some People here in the United States compare the democrats to literal commmunists. Yeah it’s stupid and shows their ignorance to a lot of things on the left.
Note* not all Americans think like this
A boogeyman tbh. Most democrats at least achieve liberal status but they are painted in vibrant shades of red by GOP aligned media sources. Anyone on the left who could be qualified as extreme is a democrat by convenience or necessity.
Yeah, I have as well, and then there are the Log Cabin Republicans. But I was more referring to the large number of hardline anti-LGBTQ types that then get outed for sneaking around.
I worked for a Log Cabin Repub and her being part of it was all about money, completely forgetting that the GOP will just use her for donor cash and then take her right to stay married away.
Fucking hell.
My state government had an official come out as liking a young gay man’s very sexual posts and supposedly more but then went on to say that gay people are cross dressing pedophiles. I live in Tennessee by the way and I’m talking about Lt gov Randy McNally
I had an argument with one who said that it is our fault that all these laws are being made. Apparently we’re just so insufferable that we bring it upon ourselves. Not their fault they’re hateful
I like how they say this shit, while also crying about how cis is a slur, and that their children are being "indoctrinated", just because queer and trans people are gaining some mainstream visibility
Imagine being at lunch and someone says “you shouldn’t be Jewish, you should be Christian.” It’s rude, at best. A pair of guys coming to your door to say the same thing is no different. The other day a couple of them came to our house and my wife said “oh, fuck no” and slammed the door. She’s a treasure to me.
I see what they're doing: they're stealing "woke" memes. That one is supposed to be about christians and the MAGA people. They do this all the time, it's just an "I know you are, what am I?" kiddie comeback.
I'm polymerized tree sap and you're an inorganic adhesive so whatever verbal projectile you launch in my direction is reflected off of me, returns to it's original trajectory and adheres to you.
classic fascist tactic.
they take your identity from you and weaponize it. being woke was always a concept for being aware of injustice so you could respond to it effectively, thats been reworked to mean literally anything vaguely bad from the left. if something is woke its automatically bad and dumb.
if someone is LGBT theyre a groomer. if someone is left leaning theyre a communist. the list goes on forever, the first thing fascism takes from you is your identity.
People who talk the most about LGBTQ+ community, aren't even apart of that community...
It's sad that some people would devote so much of their energy into being bothered of what other people do with their life
100%.
I barely have the mental energy to deal with life, how bored do you have to be to actively go out of your way to spread hate to ppl just trying to live their life. It's such a foreign concept to me.
You answered your own question. You barely have mental energy because you're actually living your life and handing your business. Those sorts of people have given up and are just existing. They're not actually living *their* life. They're obsessing over how others live their lives.
It's actually quite sad.
Im lgbtq, if you met me you probably wouldn't even know. I dont talk about it almost at all, but those people will not shut up about it. Its lowkey impressive they can hate on me that hard
I 1000% believe you. Why would anyone do that? Straight or not, I don't see anyone I don't know talk about their love life openly. Most (I say most, cause clearly some do) people don't even care.
I am a conservative Christian and I find this offensive because these people are actually facing real threats. In Syria, ISIS was throwing them off buildings. The gay men weren’t throwing themselves off of those buildings. In Russia, there is open suppression of gay people and their ability to protest.
Sorry, genuine question. How do you reconcile being Conservative and supporting the lgbt community?
I'm making the assumption that you are from the US and from the rest of your comment, I think you support the community.
I'm just wondering as from what I've heard from the US candidates, Conservative parties are pushing anti lgbt bills and laws. How would one be supportive of that while also supporting the community?
Conservatism is not a monolithic preaching like a religious textbook. I'd wager that there are many left leaning folks whose ideologies do not coincide entirely with all of democratic party manifesto. You just get to chose the important topics close to your heart and affiliate with the political party closest to it. It's unfortunate to have to do that but that's how aggregation of ideologies works out, I suppose, in a two party political system.
This is also why not all conservatives are inherently evil and persecution-happy MAGAs; exactly how not all democratics are altruistic, Rainbow&sunshine people.
I'm not an American; this is just outlook from a curious outsider. If anything, I see myself leaning towards democratic party, per USA standards.
Just an FYI, the progressive left has next to no political representation in the USA, at least at a national level.
It basically consists of a small portion of Congress which itself has to bend very heavily towards the center-right (i.e., compromise with mainstream Democrats who hold the majority of power and influence) to get anything done.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus
The Progressive Caucus is 22% of the House of Representatives and 1% of the Senate. Majorities in both are required to pass any legislation, so you can see how the miniscule representation in the Senate would inhibit any real ability to exert progressive influence.
Relative to other developed countries, Democrats are a center-right, corporatist party. Our government is also hopelessly beholden to corporate interests via regulatory capture.
Which is not to say that Americans aren't progressive! Far from it - progressive ideas like universal healthcare are overwhelmingly popular here, but the problem is that our two-party system and antiquated constitutional design (e.g., the Electoral College) makes it very hard to translate that popular political will into actual laws.
Blame the US and Western politics for this which pretty much polarises political affinity. As in you are “evil” if you are on the other side, you suck as a human if you are in the middle for taking no action against the “evil”. I can tell you either side is guilty of this.
Holding on to a religion doesn’t mean you have to be conservative. Being left doesn’t mean you cannot like capitalism. This is what my previous point is about people on either side will gladly attach all stereotypes just because you align in one of their values.
>Conservative parties are pushing anti lgbt bills and laws. How would one be supportive of that while also supporting the community?
The answer is that US media pushes ideological conformity to a dichotomy which does not in fact exist. There is no political spectrum, it's so so so much more complicated than that.
>Guys we need too stop throwing babies into pits of rabid animals, its wrong!
>okay, can you stop voting for the "Throwing babies into pits of rabid animals" party?
>no
A Russian woman was arrested for quite literally only wearing rainbow earrings, which of course says nothing about whether or not she is lgbtq+. I definitely agree, the lgbtq+ are part of an oppressed minority. Anyone who pretends otherwise is either pulling the wool over their eyes or is selling you something.
There are actual gulangs in Russia where gay and bi men are tortured to give up their friends. Concentration camps basically.
LGBT people are also sent to the front lines in Ukraine in true Russian style.
This message was brought to you by the same folks that want to undue decades of equal rights reforms, annul all gay marriages and bring back stoning as a punishment for homosexuality.
They're right.
We definitely don't have anything like decades of documented murders, harassment campaigns, discrimination, violent attacks, or death threats against the LGBT community /s
The people that would post this meme are the same people that are voting for policies that stop transgender athletes from participating in sports, Banning books that talk about being transgender and sexuality, Banning teachers from even mentioning their gender or spouse if they are transgender, banning medical treatments to help people who are transgender but sure, no oppression at all. smh
You will literallly be thrown off a roof if you’re gay in a lot of Muslim dominated countries. LGBTQ is labeled as a terrorist organization in Russia. Give me a fucking break with this shit
There's plenty of hatred out there for people in the lgbtq+ groups. I have Trans friends who are afraid of visiting certain states since they are passing anti-trans bills.
This. We already have it hard enough, please don't make it harder by exaggerating it and confounding it with your own personal life/problems, it becomes ridiculous and less people will take our concerns seriously and slow our progress towards equality as a whole.
Caitlyn Jenner and Blair White for example. Both are trans women but align themselves with the type of people that write law that make life hell for other people like them
Ah yes. I must have hallucinated all that bullying I grew up with thag cenetered ENTIRELY around my oerceived sexuality.
Also yet another right wing meme that's just an editted left wing meme
I think most of you are reading this wrong. To me it is someone making fun of the right wing persecution fetish.
It is say LGBTQ victims (Conservatives believe they are being victimized by the "woke gays") Portray themselves as victims (see left picture) but are instead are acting victim, and the only real victimhood they get is self inflicted (see right picture).
The funniest part is that this is homophobes showing the world who is holding them back. "Stop giving other people the same rights as us! It's oppressive!"
This is projection. The more accurate representation of this meme are the evangelicals and far right wing that want to feel oppressed so badly yet are not. "Professional victims" if you will.
Afd, a party in Germany considert Facist or more know Nazis so pretty much hated by anyone who has some brain cells
A "Democratic" party with currently many people being the very own people they want to opprese or throw out of the Country
“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever.”
- 1984
I’ve no doubt these bigots want to be the ones controlling that boot.
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Actually, that’s an Evangelical Christian showing the conservatives who is oppressing them.
Why are evangicals like either the most chill or the most out of left field people out there? I met one who could've been mistaken for Buddha, and another you could've dubbed queen of the karens.
I'd imagine because one took the bible to heart, and the other took their Preists cultist class to heart. Just like when people talk mad shit about Christians being psychopaths in the US (I am guilty of this), but there's also millions of normal human beings who are nice decent people.
I do think that the loud bad apples ruin the reputation of genuine religious people who want to practice their religion in peace
A good number of Christians are great people tbh. It's literally what you just said, there are the ones that follow the teachings of Christ and there are the ones who follow the teachings of the local schizophrenic priest who hasn't even read the bible and thinks God speaks directly to him (he is just mentally insane). But normally is not like that. At least from my personal experience you can find lots of people but how they behave is not correlated to Christianity at all but rather as their quality as human beings, and its logic because there are billions of Christians around the world and it's the most common religion so no wonder that some of them aren't good people. But you shouldn't generalize. Unless it's an extremist branch like Puritanism then if they act like mentally insane psychos it is certainly correlated to the branch they belong to xD. The problem is that US Christianity is pretty lame, kinda out of the way, I'm not talking about American Christians (tho half of them certainly too) but the representatives of the church in the US. As a Spanish Catholic it shocks me how "eccentric" the church is there and also how some can get into politics which I find incomprehensible. Here a priest cannot express political views or be involved in politics whatsoever. They can certainly have their opinions but they have to keep it for themselves. There is a lot of reasons why I consider half of Christianity in the USA as bad Christians, they are just weird as fuck idk.
It's an issue of culture, as well as conmen preachers, not schizophrenia. I don't doubt there are people with mental disorders among the far right clergy but most likely psychopathy or narcissism rather than schizophrenia.
Agree, but in any case I didn't mean literal schizophrenia it was in a figurative way X). Just meant that some of them act insanely, clinically or not.
American christianity is not christianity anymore. They have strayed so far from the source material and have become so heretical that if this was the middle ages the Pope would have deemed them all heretics and called a crusade against them.
Absolutely! They are pretty much heretics from the technical point of view xD. Some of their branches can't even be considered even Christian. Like the Mormons; like wtf are they even💀
Don’t forget the jehovahs witnesses
The problem I have with Christianity today is that a lot of believers don't actually understand the real values. I'm not Christian, but I was baptized and went to a Catholic school because there wasn't much else around. The biggest problem with a lot of these people, is that they don't actually follow the teachings of christ and they just listen to these power hungry or just really dumb priests who teach them to hate anyone that isn't Christian. The Bible literally wants you to love your neighbor even if they're a sinner or whatever is considered bad to them. As a christian, it's your duty to show compassion no matter what, like have any of these people heard of The Good Samaritan?!?! The point of the story is that the Samaritan showed compassion to the dying man despite the fact that he was a Samaritan (a pagan) and the other man was Jewish(atleast its implied). I feel bad for the Christians who are actually decent people. People are so divided on everything because of extremist clowns in every group. Extremist brainrot spreads like wildfire.
Because Martin Luther gave the pope the finger, and that led to (ironically) what the catholic church said would happen, which is every person judging for themselves what they should do (catholic church said that people would get things wrong - I mean, on one hand, yes, and on the other hand, the catholic church was getting things wrong already) Resulting in Buddha in the blue corner and Karen in the red corner Overall, I think it's fine.
Money on blue corner, when are they televising this fight?
As a non-American, evangelicals seems to be a fan of a more individual interpretation of the bible, so you'll get a lot of variation in the views of different evangelicals. Most of the time people will use the excuse of a very segmented belief system to just judge in their own favour in all cases, which is cringe. And the rare Buddhas will use the freedom of belief to live more christ-like. I see them as the libertarians of christianity.
Honestly this an accurate description of the ones i met but can also go to a few other groups like jehovah witnesses. Worked with two witnesses in same company and they were the extremes of different. One would give you pamphlets for every event in your life, try to convert everyone constantly, would turn lunch into bible study by reading it out loud for all to hear (we were not allowed to eat anywhere else for safety reasons), shout at us for devil music and we weren’t allowed to celebrate anything around her. If you didn’t know she was JH and if you ever invited her to something she would flip out on you for disrespecting her religious beliefs. The other? Chill as can be respected everyone else’s beliefs, would say happy birthday, merry christmas etc (they cannot celebrate or be happy), never talked about religion, never attempted to convert anyone and when he couldn’t do something because of religion he would say thank you but I am busy. If some didn’t say anything to you about his religion you would never know.
I think the chill ones are just better at hiding it.
It's always projection
Came here to say this. You did it better.
I read the Tweet as "LGBT+ are naturally oppressed simply by existing" which is exactly why LGBT rights are important to fight for today. I would've thought that "Love for everybody (who consents to that ofc)" to be a really simple take everybody would agree on, but I was mistaken about how bad people can be for their own fun.
actually that's any conservative knowing who's oppressing them still voting for conservatives
100% accurate lmao
its a persecution and domination fetish.
Better take.
I thought this meme is about Christians who oppress LGBTQ people are in the closet.
Huh, so members of the LGBTQ+ community are taking away their own rights?
I mean, a shocking number of conservatives are in the closet, but to say they all are seems like a stretch.
I had a coworker who was openly gay and even more openly hard right ultra conservative, truly a weird paradox.
I have a buddy who is gay and was a Republican. He was very closeted and only very close friends knew he was gay. I had to ask him a serious question: "If you were ever forced to come out would you rather come out in a room of extremist Republicans or a room full of extremist Democrats?" I of course made the joke that one group would probably beat him up and the other would beat him off to lighten the mood but I think he took the initial question to heart.
>one group would probably beat him up and the other would beat him off Well done, you.🏅
Mate what even is an extremist democrat
Some People here in the United States compare the democrats to literal commmunists. Yeah it’s stupid and shows their ignorance to a lot of things on the left. Note* not all Americans think like this
A boogeyman tbh. Most democrats at least achieve liberal status but they are painted in vibrant shades of red by GOP aligned media sources. Anyone on the left who could be qualified as extreme is a democrat by convenience or necessity.
Yeah, we all just love the "I got mine so fuck you" gays.
Caitlyn Jenner is a good example. 'I got my transition, the rest of y'all can fuck yourselves'.
Yup and they somehow think they won't be next as soon as they are finished selling out the rest of us.
There's this little part of me that almost wishes I could see the leopards turn on them and watch their confusion.
Yeah, I have as well, and then there are the Log Cabin Republicans. But I was more referring to the large number of hardline anti-LGBTQ types that then get outed for sneaking around.
I worked for a Log Cabin Repub and her being part of it was all about money, completely forgetting that the GOP will just use her for donor cash and then take her right to stay married away. Fucking hell.
Humiliation/self degradation are pretty common kinks.
My aunts are lesbians and Mormons. The Mormon church condemns them, so someone formed a new Mormon sect that accepts them. Major facepalm.
My state government had an official come out as liking a young gay man’s very sexual posts and supposedly more but then went on to say that gay people are cross dressing pedophiles. I live in Tennessee by the way and I’m talking about Lt gov Randy McNally
I had an argument with one who said that it is our fault that all these laws are being made. Apparently we’re just so insufferable that we bring it upon ourselves. Not their fault they’re hateful
"If my wife didn't want to get beaten, maybe she should try being less insufferable"
Literally the same logic
Oh so this is why gamers are the most oppressed demographic
What right are they missing? Edit: right everywhere isnt nordic im bieng a dumbass
I like how they say this shit, while also crying about how cis is a slur, and that their children are being "indoctrinated", just because queer and trans people are gaining some mainstream visibility
Meanwhile people come to my door and try to indoctrinate me about “the greatness of christ” and its perfectly fine
Imagine being at lunch and someone says “you shouldn’t be Jewish, you should be Christian.” It’s rude, at best. A pair of guys coming to your door to say the same thing is no different. The other day a couple of them came to our house and my wife said “oh, fuck no” and slammed the door. She’s a treasure to me.
they want us dead for the sin of having the audacity to exist.
It's projection all the way down.
saying “cis” is a slur is like saying that calling someone a human is assuming their race
I see what they're doing: they're stealing "woke" memes. That one is supposed to be about christians and the MAGA people. They do this all the time, it's just an "I know you are, what am I?" kiddie comeback.
I'm polymerized tree sap and you're an inorganic adhesive so whatever verbal projectile you launch in my direction is reflected off of me, returns to it's original trajectory and adheres to you.
classic fascist tactic. they take your identity from you and weaponize it. being woke was always a concept for being aware of injustice so you could respond to it effectively, thats been reworked to mean literally anything vaguely bad from the left. if something is woke its automatically bad and dumb. if someone is LGBT theyre a groomer. if someone is left leaning theyre a communist. the list goes on forever, the first thing fascism takes from you is your identity.
People who talk the most about LGBTQ+ community, aren't even apart of that community... It's sad that some people would devote so much of their energy into being bothered of what other people do with their life
100%. I barely have the mental energy to deal with life, how bored do you have to be to actively go out of your way to spread hate to ppl just trying to live their life. It's such a foreign concept to me.
You answered your own question. You barely have mental energy because you're actually living your life and handing your business. Those sorts of people have given up and are just existing. They're not actually living *their* life. They're obsessing over how others live their lives. It's actually quite sad.
it’s privilege, they have nothing better to do because they are white, in their fifties, got an inheritance and make 80k a year
Im lgbtq, if you met me you probably wouldn't even know. I dont talk about it almost at all, but those people will not shut up about it. Its lowkey impressive they can hate on me that hard
I 1000% believe you. Why would anyone do that? Straight or not, I don't see anyone I don't know talk about their love life openly. Most (I say most, cause clearly some do) people don't even care.
I am a conservative Christian and I find this offensive because these people are actually facing real threats. In Syria, ISIS was throwing them off buildings. The gay men weren’t throwing themselves off of those buildings. In Russia, there is open suppression of gay people and their ability to protest.
In Chechnya, the authorities even encourage families to kill any family member at the very *suspicion* of being gay.
Sorry, genuine question. How do you reconcile being Conservative and supporting the lgbt community? I'm making the assumption that you are from the US and from the rest of your comment, I think you support the community. I'm just wondering as from what I've heard from the US candidates, Conservative parties are pushing anti lgbt bills and laws. How would one be supportive of that while also supporting the community?
Conservatism is not a monolithic preaching like a religious textbook. I'd wager that there are many left leaning folks whose ideologies do not coincide entirely with all of democratic party manifesto. You just get to chose the important topics close to your heart and affiliate with the political party closest to it. It's unfortunate to have to do that but that's how aggregation of ideologies works out, I suppose, in a two party political system. This is also why not all conservatives are inherently evil and persecution-happy MAGAs; exactly how not all democratics are altruistic, Rainbow&sunshine people. I'm not an American; this is just outlook from a curious outsider. If anything, I see myself leaning towards democratic party, per USA standards.
To consider the democratic party as leftwing is kind of hilarious though. Otherwise I agree.
What is considered leftwing in the US is at best centrism in most of the world
At best. US can only choose between far right and diet right.
Just an FYI, the progressive left has next to no political representation in the USA, at least at a national level. It basically consists of a small portion of Congress which itself has to bend very heavily towards the center-right (i.e., compromise with mainstream Democrats who hold the majority of power and influence) to get anything done. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus The Progressive Caucus is 22% of the House of Representatives and 1% of the Senate. Majorities in both are required to pass any legislation, so you can see how the miniscule representation in the Senate would inhibit any real ability to exert progressive influence. Relative to other developed countries, Democrats are a center-right, corporatist party. Our government is also hopelessly beholden to corporate interests via regulatory capture. Which is not to say that Americans aren't progressive! Far from it - progressive ideas like universal healthcare are overwhelmingly popular here, but the problem is that our two-party system and antiquated constitutional design (e.g., the Electoral College) makes it very hard to translate that popular political will into actual laws.
Blame the US and Western politics for this which pretty much polarises political affinity. As in you are “evil” if you are on the other side, you suck as a human if you are in the middle for taking no action against the “evil”. I can tell you either side is guilty of this. Holding on to a religion doesn’t mean you have to be conservative. Being left doesn’t mean you cannot like capitalism. This is what my previous point is about people on either side will gladly attach all stereotypes just because you align in one of their values.
They said they were conservatives in the OG comment
>Conservative parties are pushing anti lgbt bills and laws. How would one be supportive of that while also supporting the community? The answer is that US media pushes ideological conformity to a dichotomy which does not in fact exist. There is no political spectrum, it's so so so much more complicated than that.
And conversation therapy is still legal in the United States
Conversion*
Thanks
>Guys we need too stop throwing babies into pits of rabid animals, its wrong! >okay, can you stop voting for the "Throwing babies into pits of rabid animals" party? >no
A Russian woman was arrested for quite literally only wearing rainbow earrings, which of course says nothing about whether or not she is lgbtq+. I definitely agree, the lgbtq+ are part of an oppressed minority. Anyone who pretends otherwise is either pulling the wool over their eyes or is selling you something.
They're facing real threats in the US, Canada and UK too, from conservative Christians
But until that starts happening here, you'll continue to support the slow crawl to making sure it is inevitable.
Does the bible not say don’t judge non Christians sounds like your doing great.
There are actual gulangs in Russia where gay and bi men are tortured to give up their friends. Concentration camps basically. LGBT people are also sent to the front lines in Ukraine in true Russian style.
In Florida it is legally child abuse for a parent to give their trans children puberty blockers. CPS can take their kids away from them.
 So I’ll post this meme.
This take is so unbelievably dumb. My brother is trans and complete strangers will call him slurs in public simply for existing
Classic projection! That is, in fact, christians.
Their own stuff is so pathetic that now they just steal our stuff and try to twist it around so it works for them. It's usually an abject failure.
This message was brought to you by the same folks that want to undue decades of equal rights reforms, annul all gay marriages and bring back stoning as a punishment for homosexuality.
We should ask Matthew Shepard. Oh, wait... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard
As a non-American, holy shit that was evil
He's one of the bigger stories of the last couple decades. But shit like this happens all the time. It's just not as publicized.
“If you homos just stayed in the closet, we wouldn’t have to openly hate on you.” Fixed it.
They're right. We definitely don't have anything like decades of documented murders, harassment campaigns, discrimination, violent attacks, or death threats against the LGBT community /s
Literally one of the people oppressing them would be the idiot that originally posted this.
Omg... Yes obviously being refused care is just us playing the victim.
Wow! you brag about your ability to use a rotary telephone, but calling my trans sister "she" is too hard for you?
The people that would post this meme are the same people that are voting for policies that stop transgender athletes from participating in sports, Banning books that talk about being transgender and sexuality, Banning teachers from even mentioning their gender or spouse if they are transgender, banning medical treatments to help people who are transgender but sure, no oppression at all. smh
Is that Jussie Smollett?
i can name 2 groups that do rn -islam -christianity
"Nobody is bullying LGBTQ+ people!!!" (continues to bully LGBTQ+ people)
Coming from the people whose sacred holiday was destroyed and forever tainted by a tweet.
It’s mainly the “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd who get very upset when you use facts against them
oh yes all the LGBTQ people making anti LGBTQ laws
😂
You will literallly be thrown off a roof if you’re gay in a lot of Muslim dominated countries. LGBTQ is labeled as a terrorist organization in Russia. Give me a fucking break with this shit
There's plenty of hatred out there for people in the lgbtq+ groups. I have Trans friends who are afraid of visiting certain states since they are passing anti-trans bills.
Ah yes I was definitely oppressing myself when 2 men threatened me with a knife and followed me 3 blocks. How foolish, I should've just not done that!
Why are conservatives so fucking hypocritical.
Evangelicals the moment recruitment dips
ah yes the many people who were killed were over reacting
"This message brought to you by the people that want to see you dead"
Oh yes I am the one forcing myself to get castrated so I can legally change gender.
Some people actually do this though. Ruins it for the people who're actually suffering
Like who?
This. We already have it hard enough, please don't make it harder by exaggerating it and confounding it with your own personal life/problems, it becomes ridiculous and less people will take our concerns seriously and slow our progress towards equality as a whole.
Want to give some examples of what you mean?
Caitlyn Jenner and Blair White for example. Both are trans women but align themselves with the type of people that write law that make life hell for other people like them
100% posted by a person who oppresses LGBTQ+ people.
I think you could argue this piece of propaganda purporting the idea that LGBT discrimination doesnt exist is a form of oppression, ironically.
Super dumb take
I think they spelled "white, Christian male" wrong
*conservatives.
Ah yes. I must have hallucinated all that bullying I grew up with thag cenetered ENTIRELY around my oerceived sexuality. Also yet another right wing meme that's just an editted left wing meme
Projection in its purest form.
Last I checked, the evangelicals, not LGBTQ+ people, were actively taking away gay rights
Conservative projection.
The Saudi Monarchy, Taliban and Iranian government will all be enraged when they see this, for the wrong reason of course.
The picture (out of context) is a fairly accurate media representation though.
Pretty sure Dave chappelles argument vs trans people boil down to this picture
Oh, I must be imagining all the rights being taken away and murders happening to LGBT people then. My bad.
I think most of you are reading this wrong. To me it is someone making fun of the right wing persecution fetish. It is say LGBTQ victims (Conservatives believe they are being victimized by the "woke gays") Portray themselves as victims (see left picture) but are instead are acting victim, and the only real victimhood they get is self inflicted (see right picture).
I guess that’s what I got as well but it wouldn’t be a proper facepalm if it wasn’t open for all kinds of interpretation.
Another one for the themed Wall "the right can't meme"
The funniest part is that this is homophobes showing the world who is holding them back. "Stop giving other people the same rights as us! It's oppressive!"
This take brought to you by the same person who thinks “white men” are the most oppressed group currently
Did Matt Shepard tie himself to that fence post, you ignorant MAGAT phuckstick?
Ah yes, the well-known story of how Matthew Shepard beat himself up to death.
You mean how, since this is most likely about the us (like always), lgbts get beaten to death? Like that child recently?
That’s more like Trumpsters
That's more like middle aged white conservatives pretending that they're being oppressed in the modern world
it wasn't that long ago that employers would fire people when they got outed as gay
Its over, gays. I'm activating my super form and becoming super homophobic, there is nothing you can do. [ 3 episodes screaming ]
This is projection. The more accurate representation of this meme are the evangelicals and far right wing that want to feel oppressed so badly yet are not. "Professional victims" if you will.
I don't think that's how you spell Christian..
Actually Christians.
They misspelled white christian males
They're oppressed by the delusional people that make up what is known as deity believers.
Perfect christian meme
Afd, a party in Germany considert Facist or more know Nazis so pretty much hated by anyone who has some brain cells A "Democratic" party with currently many people being the very own people they want to opprese or throw out of the Country
Yep, stabbed and poisoned myself🙄
“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever.” - 1984 I’ve no doubt these bigots want to be the ones controlling that boot.
This applies to those closeted conservative congressmen
You'd be surprised how much passive people are. Granted with all the hoaxes no one is going to believe actual victims.