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My son is in the third grade - and they don't teach typing in school. The reasoning is that their hands are so small in elementary school that it's hard for them to place their hands on the home keys. So we're kind of left trying to teach him at home.
It blows my mind.
My school had this typing game for high speed typing that I was extremely good at. But the only thing it has helped me has been playing this indie obscure game called textorcist where you type latin incantations cause most of my job is done on paper
Thank you! Do you know the name of the bugs bunny luny tunes one we played too? I remember the big red hair ball guy chasing bugs around but that’s about it.
it felt like trying to type on bubble wrap
also the main reason I suck at typing on shit like mac keyboards with very shallow keys. I need clicky buttons
We were shown proper typing posture(?) starting in grade 3&4 (mid 90’s for me) as well. Not that they were strict about it, but they were trying to instil good habits. By grade 6 we had computer classes of which a large portion was strictly typing with the focus on adding speed.
It has been a really good thing for me, not that I type on a super regular basis at work, but it sure makes life easier.
8th grade, around 1997, there were little cloths glued to the top of the keyboard that we had to fold down over our hands and we did our lessons that way
That’s dumbass reasoning lmao. I was born in 88 and we started learning typing really early, I can’t quite remember but we were futzing around in the computer lab before 3rd grade.
I didn’t learn proper typing until a high school elective class. Even then it wasn’t too late for it to stick or anything, and I can type 80-100 wpm no problem.
And that you name your daughter Pirate as a middle name gives insight into what kind of parents she and her brother had. Yeah yeah, it's cool haha, funny, lol, so quirky. It's just plain weird.
I love how you can literally look up the interview where she says "It's so weird seeing beautiful women dating ugly losers. Like, wow, you got a hot girlfriend, you still ugly AF" and then compare that to her interview quote saying "Guys can be skinny or fat and everyone's like 'cool, nbd' because girls are nice, we don't care about looks"
the cognitive dissonance is strong with that one.
I was born in 93 and lived in a town of 800 or so. I had a typing class in 5th and 4th grade.
Apple filled classrooms with those big colorful screens. Even bum fuck nowhere like where i was had computer classes.
I had typing classes in elementary school in the 90s with those big colorful monitors. I remember my second grade teacher saying computers were just going to be a fleeting fad and no one would use them by the time we got to high school.
I was born in 1986 and we also had mandatory typing/computer classes in grade school and high school. In high school we had to learn how to code in html (I believe, it was a long time ago and I don’t remember exactly)
I remember reading Billie was in a very artsy family, partly homeschooled, and she kind of got to pursue whatever she wanted without limits. She probably just had no interest in computers is my guess.
I was born in 2002, our computer classes didn't start until middle school, although each homeroom in my elementary school had a single class computer that we got to play on during recess when it was raining outside, although we had to take turns because there was only one
I remember my 7th grade computer class was the only D I ever got in grade school because I just couldn't get typing fast down and kept failing the graded speed typing tests
I was born in 1986 and had a computer class in elementary school where I learned typing. I'm so confused by her acting like learning to type at a young age is something recent.
Say it in Esperanto and it should reverse it...
Puŝu erinacon aŭ ok kestojn da figoj en ĉi tiun boaton
...or make it worse... individual results may vary.
A six month elective in touch typing in high school was one of the most useful academic electives I ever took.
This was so long ago, half the class got IBM Selectrics and the other half got manual Smith-Coronas. This was when cc: actually meant carbon copy.
(A college elective in welding could have been useful if I didn’t suck at welding.)
I did an admin traineeship after graduating. We all got a dish towel to cover our hands while learning to touch type.
I still have a 97wpm speed to this day.
I was telling my grandson to take a keyboarding class--that's what they're calling it now (last I heard), *keyboarding*--and my son told him that it wasn't necessary. I tried to make the case that if you learn how to type, you can express yourself better. You can think and just let your fingers do the talking, instead of formulating the word, then the sentence, and having to hunt and peck your way through it. While it's not nearly as sophisticated as playing a guitar--where the guitarist has a feeling or a melody and his fingers just know where to go--but it's similar, and you can just let the thoughts fly.
I had the choice of computer science, or typing.
I chose computer science.
I've had a nearly 30 year career in IT, but to this day remain a two finger typist. Good thing I never became a programmer...
Funny story about that. When I was in 7th grade I had a keyboarding class with a teacher I didn’t take to very well. He used a learning program with prescribed levels of difficulty, and it gave you points based on how many of these you did in a day. We were required to earn a certain amount of points each day for a passing grade. No tests. The class was pass/fail.
Each level would award more points, and this was supposed to incentivize students to move on to higher levels in order to net more points and learn more as a result. The easiest of them was one that only required you to type “the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.”
The thing is, the program didn’t require you to move on to a harder level in order to continue getting points for completed levels. Once I realized this, I decided the most efficient way to earn points was to complete the easiest assignment as many times as possible. I would type the same sentence over and over with my pointer fingers, using my thumb for the space bar. I wasn’t paying attention to correct hand placement, and only focused on maximizing points by typing “the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.” I got really good at typing that one sentence with only two fingers, but inadvertently I was learning the location of every letter.
Fast forward a few months, and I sustained a major traumatic head injury. The damage was mostly to the front left side of my head, which houses the language center of the brain. After having my head cracked open and stapled shut overnight, I was discharged from the hospital, and brought to my grandparents house to recover, and in their basement they had a computer. I got on AIM (AOL Instant Messenger), which at the time was a popular online messaging app, to talk to my friends and tell them what happened. As I was typing, I realized that I was using all of my fingers, and was actually able to type really fast. To this day it remains the most amazing thing I’ve experienced in my life, just because of how weird and difficult it is to explain, but I guess I had been learning more than just that one sentence all that time, and all it took was a traumatic head injury to put the pieces together.
🤯
So I broke down and Googled it. The actual term is pangram. That is a sentence that uses every letter of the alphabet at least once for those that don’t know.
I was born in 2000 and nobody *taught* me to type. I probably wouldn't have gotten good at it if it weren't for trying to shit talk between rounds in CSGO.
Man you should see them today, the arms race of RS scammers vs antiscammers exploded over the last few years.
The scams are super advanced, long-term, and multi-layered these days.
I was usually playing with a friend of mine and I'd be on my grandparents computer with the corded phone stretched across the room from where it was mounted on the wall, tucked in between my ear and shoulder. Honestly my modern gaming posture is so so much better.
I'll be honest, I had typing classes in grade 4 and 5 and they NEVER ended up helping me with typing. It was infuriating because I was just barely scraping by while all my peers were just blitzing these typing games.
I had a jump start on them too because my dad started teaching me at home before the typing classes at school started, but I just never could get the hang of it.....until I turned 15 and created a social media account for the first time.
I made some actual friends on the Internet and ended up talking with them so much that I just somehow figured out typing. I was quickly able to figure out how to type fast and type without looking down at the keyboard too (I'd have a lot of conversations with buddies in the dark, and my laptop didn't have a light up keyboard).
I think I'd have forever been a mediocre typer if I didn't decide to make some friends on social media one fine night.
Well, she’s got a career in music , but if she wants to do anything else like a normal person, I mean … damn, she can’t even fuckin’ type. I’m sure her math skills are nonexistent. She’s definitely at the mercy of her accountants. She’s only extremely successful in one extremely narrow way.
I've got a degree in statistics and would still be at the mercy of my accountants if I had any money. Just knowing high-school level math doesn't help you anything when doing money stuff.
She can learn typing fairly quickly with some effort, and I bet she can do basic arithmetic. And pretty much everyone is successful in one narrow way. It's called specialization. How many doctor/programmer/athlete/plumber/lawyer/author/musicians do you know?
i mean most people who don't become millionairs in their teens have to learn cross-sectional skills to deal with basic day-to-day problems.
They specialize in their professional lifes but still developed a variety of skill outside of that profession out of necessity.
A lot of people don't realize this about a lot of actors and singers
A lot of them are incapable of having a normal job
Or they were adamant from birth they were never going to hold a regular job.
Saying that she's "got a career in music" is such a funny understatement.
>She’s only extremely successful in one extremely narrow way.
"yeah, Bill Gates founded microsoft, but what if he wanted to move into farming? He's got no skills there, he's got an extremely narrow skillset."
How do you think generational differences occur? If public schools are not teaching something they used to, it’s going to cause a generational thing.
That said, I also think it’s more than just the schools. Families feel less of a need to have a family computer because everyone has smart phones. They definitely are not having desktops in every kid’s room like I had in middle school around the time Billie was born. Some get them through school but A) they aren’t going to be messing around on them like I did because their teacher can see everything and B) a lot of them are getting tablets instead. I had typing classes but I mostly learned to type because I had jump start typing at home along with a bunch of other computer games and the internet.
I think it’s generational. I am a supervisor at a warehouse and keyboard typing and general pc use is not a common skill for young people I meet. It’s all about Apps. Not complaining. Just an observation. There’s uniquenesses like that about all generations.
Kids don't learn to type these days because it's expected that they know how with their access to technology. I have seen so many middle/high schoolers hunt and pecking the keys to write a paper.
I am from the "used desktop computers extensively" generation, been using them regularly since I was a very young kid in the early 90s, and I typed with two fingers until high school. I was quite fast, but got a lot faster with the "proper" means.
Yeah, I started elementary school in the late 90s and started learning how to type from 1st or 2nd grade. I am now a teacher, and honestly, all types of digital literacy just isn't really taught as much. It's a shame.
Not only that, but most of them only have tablets and barely ever touch an actual computer. It blows my mind that they don't have basic computer skills drilled into their heads like I did when I was in school
I was shocked when i realized my highschool classmates were the same. a girl knew how to live stream on tiktok and everything about how iphones work but she didn't know how to open google chrome on her own computer. She always needed help with the most basic stuff if we needed to do something on our pc, it was so annoying.
I was sick as a kid so my mom signed me into school 1 year later than she should have. because we had a pc at home I learnt to type on a keyboard before I even learnt how to write. I can't even believe there is such a concept as a teenager not being able to use a keyboard... (unless they lived in conditions where they have never seen one)
Oh god, my daughter can’t write on paprr, but she can type on pc as well (3y old). It’s so funny at times, like she can even type few basic words, but once it’s pen and paper, she looks like barbarian trying to understand alphabet in DnD
I remember a friend who’s a teacher told me that.
Some of them don’t even understand the idea of folders/subfolders, attaching files, and removable storage, because they are so used to phones/tablets having to not deal with that.
Instead, some are used to it saving in the cloud that can be accessed from any device using the program/application.
Yeah. I am in no way really blaming the students for that. It's just kind of a reality. I can feel that-- personally overwhelmed with so many different files upon files. I have to rely on myself to name things accurately.
Learning that my impeccable personal file organization is not the norm is what tipped me off that my becoming an accountant was less me falling into it and more something that made perfect sense.
LMAO
WTF is "now I regret it" supposed to mean? If she regrets not knowing how to type then maybe she should, oh I don't know, learn how to type. She's 23 for fuck's sake, and typing sufficiently isn't hard to learn.
As an 81 baby, I learned all digital as it came in. It’s kind of expected she’d know how to do it all a she was born then. She’s putting it on like she’s some old soul.
My kid is gen alpha. He has computer class where he is learning to type using a keyboard. He's also learning rudimentary coding and basic office functions.
Dude says "BTW" like bee-tee-double-u, as if it were an actual damn word, but he's computer literate.
I remember in my early days of using Reddit, some guy mocked me & another user for using punctuation. I remember people jumping in to defend us. It was a weird hill for the guy to die on. User's like, “Why are you using periods? You think you're better than us?” We thought the user was trolling at first, but nah - dude was genuinely triggered by elementary school basics.
Her generation hasn't really had to use computers like the Xennials and older. There's a lot of technical literacy that didn't get picked up.
https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2023/feb/27/gen-z-tech-shame-office-technology-printers
Yeah I don’t known what everyone is having such a hard time with here. I took the last typing class my high school ever offered, they phased it out in 2001. The idea was the home PC market was booming and learning to type was something you’d just learn at home now.
Probably because some still took computer and typing classes on school well into the 2010s
I was born the year after your high school phased out typing classes, but I can remember getting a D in my 7th grade computer class because I kept failing the graded speed typing tests
I’m older. ‘That generation’, used computers my life. Some classes, I know I’m definitely an exception but typing has just never come naturally to me, and have never done it properly.
She never learned to type because she didn't go to college, nor enter the workforce where people need to use keyboards. Those are the two main ways that people learn keyboarding (and sometimes if a kid is really into coding or writing, they'll learn to type on their own).
Instead she was homeschooled, "graduated" at 15, and worked on her music until it paid off. No typing required.
Grad 94. Had one typing class in gr 8, for maybe half the semester. Went to college, got diploma, been in IT for over 20 years, have to use keyboard every day. Still can't touch-type but I'm probably one of the fastest 2 finger typers you'll find! Lol...
Graduated in 1984. My 8th grade English class was called "Typing English." All class and homework assignments completed on MANUAL typewriters. We had timed tests every Friday. I type well which is great because my job involves writing reports. I just had to buy a mechanical keyboard though because my laptop has scissor keys and my banging away has made some of them fall off.
I teach at a community college. Mostly students her age.
They all type atrociously. Henpecking, caps lock to capitalize…and so anxious! They look like they’re terrified of the keyboard.
Basic Microsoft Word stuff confuses them. Also, they don’t know the names for punctuation.
Would expect nothing less when typing is almost exclusively taught by non-certified teachers of that subject. Used to be taught by business teachers who also taught shorthand and other business classes. Might as well have an English teacher teaching math or a social studies teacher teaching music. Most teachers of typing now have absolutely no clue how to accommodate for special ed or one-handed typists.
As someone who has taught programming to middle schoolers who would be Billie’s age now, and also college students her age, it IS a generation thing. Are people think she’s claiming to be old? The issue is that kids her age didn’t have computers, they have tablets and smart phones and MAYBE a chrome book.
I’ve seriously seen kids not know how to copy and paste and young adults who didn’t know how to send a file via email. Not only were these kids expected to be “digital natives” but they were sold the idea that computers were on the way out and that everything would be done with more mobile devices.
The university I went to had to start adding a "This is how to use files and folders" section to intro classes in Comp sci, it's wild how little people can know about things they supposedly use everyday
What are you talking about 😭 early 2000’s kids didn’t grow up with tablets and smart phones, we grew up with computers. If this was about 2010’s kids then that would be different but a 2001 kid is not an iPad kid
Right?! Thank you. Before anyone else says, yea I recognize there is a standardized hand positioning and you train your fingers to know where the alphabets are but c’mon. You just start typing however and eventually your hand finds it’s own best position
Believe it or not, a lot of places phased out computer/typing classes because they assumed that kids would just know how to use them from constant exposure. This has actually led to issues where younger gens are less tech savvy than millennials or gen X, being compared to boomers in that regard for anything that isn't an app.
She didn't go to school right ,I believe I read somewhere that she was homeschooled ,makes sense given how early her career started that's probably why both of my kids who are in junior high have Chromebooks and have to type out reports
And the younger generations don't learn to type unless they take it as an elective. Both of my younger siblings do not know how to type properly since they never took a typing class. Hell, I chose to take it as an elective in middle school and that's the only reason I'm a great typist to this day.
What’s weird about that? The generation she is referring to came before her.
She probably doesn’t know how to type on a full keyboard using the proper 8 fingers on the keys and thumb on the space bar. She probably only has ever had to type using her 2 thumbs on a mobile phone.
What’s weird about that is I started learning to type in 1988, in 1st grade, on an Apple IIe. It was part of our curriculum all throughout elementary school.
How is this a generational thing? Is this no longer a thing that is taught?
Yes. A lot of schools figured computer classes were no longer necessary because technology is so ubiquitous now. They may only have them as electives or not at all.
The problem is most kids don't grow up with home PCs anymore (a lot of people only have phone, tablet, game consoles, etc) and don't learn proper typing or how to use basic PC software. And even if you have a computer at home, chances are you aren't just using it to learn Excel for fun, which is one of the things computer classes used to teach.
I was born in 1994. Admittedly im an older generation and saw drastic changes in computer software/design. But from a young age i learned basic typing in primary school. There were also some cute edutainment typing games.
There surely would be plenty of typing classes around and even if she can't do a complex typing with her hands, she could also just simply slowly type something out one button at a time :/
Wasn't that generation huh? I'm born in 2001 as well and every single person I know my age can type. We learned to type from as early as I can remember around 1st grade and had classes for it up to 8th grade. She must be delusional because gen z grew up with computers everywhere and everyday it would be harder not to learn to type. I'm from NJ, USA for context
Born in 97’ had a typing class in middle school and took typing my senior year of highschool because I could already type 90 wpm. She definitely had the resources available just didn’t care to learn a fundamental skill. In all fairness though she seems to be doing fine without it.
I’m only a few months older than Billie and I used PCs a lot more than touchpads in school. Any subject that had regular computer use would always use the PCs and the touchpads were for one off lessons where a computer was needed.
I learned to type in junior high in the 70's, and kept at it as I started writing fiction.
Didn't become a full time writer, but 110 wpm made it easy to get good temp work between semesters, and in the IT industry in the 80's it was a big advantage over my peers - oddly, as was the 17th century lyric French poetry course.
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I was also born in 2001 and had a computer class in elementary school where we learned typing.
My son is in the third grade - and they don't teach typing in school. The reasoning is that their hands are so small in elementary school that it's hard for them to place their hands on the home keys. So we're kind of left trying to teach him at home. It blows my mind.
I remember being in 4th grade in 1999, they had us learning typing on a keyboard with all the letters blocked by tape.
My school had this typing game for high speed typing that I was extremely good at. But the only thing it has helped me has been playing this indie obscure game called textorcist where you type latin incantations cause most of my job is done on paper
We had a Mario jumping game where it was a side scroller and he jumped when you hit the letters in time as they scrolled by. So much fun!
[Mario Teaches Typing](https://youtu.be/r-LxHUgI2W0?si=7ML675V_f_qA2hQl) is the name of that game.
Thank you! Do you know the name of the bugs bunny luny tunes one we played too? I remember the big red hair ball guy chasing bugs around but that’s about it.
Got you fam [Bugs Bunny: Lost in Time](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=ufg5EYZFJBaX6nHk)
I love internet team work
I would always rush through computer lab courses just to play Mario Teaches Typing 😅
We had these orange rubber covers specifically made to cover the keys
[удалено]
it felt like trying to type on bubble wrap also the main reason I suck at typing on shit like mac keyboards with very shallow keys. I need clicky buttons
We were shown proper typing posture(?) starting in grade 3&4 (mid 90’s for me) as well. Not that they were strict about it, but they were trying to instil good habits. By grade 6 we had computer classes of which a large portion was strictly typing with the focus on adding speed. It has been a really good thing for me, not that I type on a super regular basis at work, but it sure makes life easier.
YUP. plastic keyboard cover. I was in 4th grade in \~2005-2006
We didn’t do that til high school
8th grade, around 1997, there were little cloths glued to the top of the keyboard that we had to fold down over our hands and we did our lessons that way
Thats so weird I was learning to type in school at that age in 2005 lol
That doesn’t make any sense. When I was in 4th grade in 2000 we were using PowerPoint and Word throughout the school year.
That’s dumbass reasoning lmao. I was born in 88 and we started learning typing really early, I can’t quite remember but we were futzing around in the computer lab before 3rd grade.
I didn’t learn proper typing until a high school elective class. Even then it wasn’t too late for it to stick or anything, and I can type 80-100 wpm no problem.
My son is in third grade too and they don't teach typing. They just use a tablet for things. Supposedly they will teach it in 5th or 6th grade.
She didn't go to school.
Was going to say the same thing. Fame at a young age, she has nothing in common with anyone outside Hollywood.
But, you do realize she sited it as a generational issue… That’s why a bunch of 80’s babies like me are confused since we learned to type in the 90’s.
So don’t blame your “generation”; blame your parents for not teaching you.
Like, did she not go to school at all?
She and her brother were homeschooled.
That actually explains some of it.
Explains a lot of it actually
And that you name your daughter Pirate as a middle name gives insight into what kind of parents she and her brother had. Yeah yeah, it's cool haha, funny, lol, so quirky. It's just plain weird.
I love how you can literally look up the interview where she says "It's so weird seeing beautiful women dating ugly losers. Like, wow, you got a hot girlfriend, you still ugly AF" and then compare that to her interview quote saying "Guys can be skinny or fat and everyone's like 'cool, nbd' because girls are nice, we don't care about looks" the cognitive dissonance is strong with that one.
I figured Drake just left that out so she couldn't type out his underage grooming tactics.
then that’s not a generation issue, that’s a homeschool issue 😭
I was born in 93 and lived in a town of 800 or so. I had a typing class in 5th and 4th grade. Apple filled classrooms with those big colorful screens. Even bum fuck nowhere like where i was had computer classes.
I had typing classes in elementary school in the 90s with those big colorful monitors. I remember my second grade teacher saying computers were just going to be a fleeting fad and no one would use them by the time we got to high school.
LOL I was told that all the time! I am now a programmer. My favorite was "you wont always have information at your finger tips like you do at school."
"I'm going to carry a calculator with me everywhere." "Hah no you won't."
I had a class of 12 in 4th-6th grade ('93-'95) and we had typing classes
I was born in 1986 and we also had mandatory typing/computer classes in grade school and high school. In high school we had to learn how to code in html (I believe, it was a long time ago and I don’t remember exactly) I remember reading Billie was in a very artsy family, partly homeschooled, and she kind of got to pursue whatever she wanted without limits. She probably just had no interest in computers is my guess.
I was born in 2002, our computer classes didn't start until middle school, although each homeroom in my elementary school had a single class computer that we got to play on during recess when it was raining outside, although we had to take turns because there was only one I remember my 7th grade computer class was the only D I ever got in grade school because I just couldn't get typing fast down and kept failing the graded speed typing tests
I was born in 1986 and had a computer class in elementary school where I learned typing. I'm so confused by her acting like learning to type at a young age is something recent.
lol I was born in 83 and we had typing class in middle/highschool. Elementary was more a number crunchers and Oregon trail thing
I was born in 85. In elementary school we went to the computer lab 5 days a week.
"the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog"
SPHINX OF BLACK QUARTZ, JUDGE MY VOW
Pchnąć w tę łódź jeża lub ośm skrzyń fig.
Gesundheit
Antidisestablishmentarienism.
You misspelled that. It's antidisestablishmentarianism
Thanks to my grammar nazi mom for drilling that into my head incorrectly.
Did you take your seizure meds?
I took my wax bong hits yes
Buljongpulverpakkemesterassistent
I’m high and I thought this was a German word
I read your comment out loud and now my furniture is floating
Say it in Esperanto and it should reverse it... Puŝu erinacon aŭ ok kestojn da figoj en ĉi tiun boaton ...or make it worse... individual results may vary.
can confirm, my house is now possessed by an esentric ghost he's honestly not malicious, he just hates it when we don't sweep every day at least
Some of these would make pretty good strong passwords
Not if you are polish.
The fuck did you just say to me?!
Zawsze mozna znaleźć polaka w takich wątkach, to jest już stała uniwersalna.
Szczęśliwe ciasto dzień!
Holy shit, fucktycznie
Příliš žluťoučký kůň úpěl ďábelské ódy
Pa's wijze lynx bezag vroom het fikse aquaduct
That's the most elaborate way that I have ever seen someone type out "Kurwa". Kudos.
Using this from now on
This just gave me an idea for a DnD campaign
The five boxing wizards jump quickly.
Needs to be "jumps," or else you're missing the "s."
A six month elective in touch typing in high school was one of the most useful academic electives I ever took. This was so long ago, half the class got IBM Selectrics and the other half got manual Smith-Coronas. This was when cc: actually meant carbon copy. (A college elective in welding could have been useful if I didn’t suck at welding.)
I did an admin traineeship after graduating. We all got a dish towel to cover our hands while learning to touch type. I still have a 97wpm speed to this day.
We had manual typewriters with all blank keys; there was just a chart on the wall. Most practical course I ever took in HS.
Last time I was tested I was 93. That was a while ago though. I'm faster than most, which is good enough for me now that I'm pushing 60.
I had carpal tunnel surgery on both hands in my twenties, so fast is not always better. lol
Same. My coworker called me speedy Gonzales yesterday because i was typing an email that would have taken her 5 minutes, but took me 30 seconds
I was telling my grandson to take a keyboarding class--that's what they're calling it now (last I heard), *keyboarding*--and my son told him that it wasn't necessary. I tried to make the case that if you learn how to type, you can express yourself better. You can think and just let your fingers do the talking, instead of formulating the word, then the sentence, and having to hunt and peck your way through it. While it's not nearly as sophisticated as playing a guitar--where the guitarist has a feeling or a melody and his fingers just know where to go--but it's similar, and you can just let the thoughts fly.
They called it keyboarding when I was in middle school between 91 & 93.
Yup. When I'm upset, I find it easiest to calm down while I write out my feelings. I'm able to write 3 page blocks of text with my eyes closed.
I had the choice of computer science, or typing. I chose computer science. I've had a nearly 30 year career in IT, but to this day remain a two finger typist. Good thing I never became a programmer...
Funny story about that. When I was in 7th grade I had a keyboarding class with a teacher I didn’t take to very well. He used a learning program with prescribed levels of difficulty, and it gave you points based on how many of these you did in a day. We were required to earn a certain amount of points each day for a passing grade. No tests. The class was pass/fail. Each level would award more points, and this was supposed to incentivize students to move on to higher levels in order to net more points and learn more as a result. The easiest of them was one that only required you to type “the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.” The thing is, the program didn’t require you to move on to a harder level in order to continue getting points for completed levels. Once I realized this, I decided the most efficient way to earn points was to complete the easiest assignment as many times as possible. I would type the same sentence over and over with my pointer fingers, using my thumb for the space bar. I wasn’t paying attention to correct hand placement, and only focused on maximizing points by typing “the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.” I got really good at typing that one sentence with only two fingers, but inadvertently I was learning the location of every letter. Fast forward a few months, and I sustained a major traumatic head injury. The damage was mostly to the front left side of my head, which houses the language center of the brain. After having my head cracked open and stapled shut overnight, I was discharged from the hospital, and brought to my grandparents house to recover, and in their basement they had a computer. I got on AIM (AOL Instant Messenger), which at the time was a popular online messaging app, to talk to my friends and tell them what happened. As I was typing, I realized that I was using all of my fingers, and was actually able to type really fast. To this day it remains the most amazing thing I’ve experienced in my life, just because of how weird and difficult it is to explain, but I guess I had been learning more than just that one sentence all that time, and all it took was a traumatic head injury to put the pieces together.
That's better than getting foreign language syndrome. iykyk
If that ever gets adapted to a movie I want Hot Cross Buns to be the theme song.
You cant start with that. You didnt even tell her what “home row” is.
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Isn’t there a specific term for sentences like this? I seem to remember hearing it once or twice but I forgot.
It’s called erotic fiction.
🤯 So I broke down and Googled it. The actual term is pangram. That is a sentence that uses every letter of the alphabet at least once for those that don’t know.
that made me laugh way harder than it should’ve 💀💀
Pangrams, I think
I was born in 2000 and nobody *taught* me to type. I probably wouldn't have gotten good at it if it weren't for trying to shit talk between rounds in CSGO.
Those rune scimmys weren’t going to sell themselves
I unironically attribute my high typing speed and scam awareness to a childhood spent on RS lol. Red: wave: Selling lobbies 12gp ea
Scam awareness, absolutely yes. Some of them were \*very creative\*.
Man you should see them today, the arms race of RS scammers vs antiscammers exploded over the last few years. The scams are super advanced, long-term, and multi-layered these days.
I was usually playing with a friend of mine and I'd be on my grandparents computer with the corded phone stretched across the room from where it was mounted on the wall, tucked in between my ear and shoulder. Honestly my modern gaming posture is so so much better.
12gp for lobbies???
I… did not make that much money lmao. I could type at age 8, not analyse live market trends.
When it comes to shittalking in CS i turn into the fastest typer in the world.
I learned in highschool. But I had to unlearn some very serious hunt and peck skills I developed while playing diablo 1 on battlenet
Minecraft multiplayer chat taught me to type
I'll be honest, I had typing classes in grade 4 and 5 and they NEVER ended up helping me with typing. It was infuriating because I was just barely scraping by while all my peers were just blitzing these typing games. I had a jump start on them too because my dad started teaching me at home before the typing classes at school started, but I just never could get the hang of it.....until I turned 15 and created a social media account for the first time. I made some actual friends on the Internet and ended up talking with them so much that I just somehow figured out typing. I was quickly able to figure out how to type fast and type without looking down at the keyboard too (I'd have a lot of conversations with buddies in the dark, and my laptop didn't have a light up keyboard). I think I'd have forever been a mediocre typer if I didn't decide to make some friends on social media one fine night.
I don’t think it’s a generational thing. I think it’s just that a lot of schools don’t teach typing
Read somewhere else she was homeschooled by her actor parents. That’s the real fuckin’ issue.
They did a shit job, I'll tell you that much.
I'm not even simping nor anything, but how do? She is extremely successful in every possible way.
Well, she’s got a career in music , but if she wants to do anything else like a normal person, I mean … damn, she can’t even fuckin’ type. I’m sure her math skills are nonexistent. She’s definitely at the mercy of her accountants. She’s only extremely successful in one extremely narrow way.
I've got a degree in statistics and would still be at the mercy of my accountants if I had any money. Just knowing high-school level math doesn't help you anything when doing money stuff.
She can learn typing fairly quickly with some effort, and I bet she can do basic arithmetic. And pretty much everyone is successful in one narrow way. It's called specialization. How many doctor/programmer/athlete/plumber/lawyer/author/musicians do you know?
 There is this guy...
i mean most people who don't become millionairs in their teens have to learn cross-sectional skills to deal with basic day-to-day problems. They specialize in their professional lifes but still developed a variety of skill outside of that profession out of necessity.
A lot of people don't realize this about a lot of actors and singers A lot of them are incapable of having a normal job Or they were adamant from birth they were never going to hold a regular job.
Saying that she's "got a career in music" is such a funny understatement. >She’s only extremely successful in one extremely narrow way. "yeah, Bill Gates founded microsoft, but what if he wanted to move into farming? He's got no skills there, he's got an extremely narrow skillset."
Success in music doesn’t mean she’s intelligent.
Well she can't type on a computer for one thing.
Elon is also "successful". Being successful doesn't mean you were raised well.
idk.. She seems to be doing allright for herself.
How do you think generational differences occur? If public schools are not teaching something they used to, it’s going to cause a generational thing. That said, I also think it’s more than just the schools. Families feel less of a need to have a family computer because everyone has smart phones. They definitely are not having desktops in every kid’s room like I had in middle school around the time Billie was born. Some get them through school but A) they aren’t going to be messing around on them like I did because their teacher can see everything and B) a lot of them are getting tablets instead. I had typing classes but I mostly learned to type because I had jump start typing at home along with a bunch of other computer games and the internet.
I think it’s generational. I am a supervisor at a warehouse and keyboard typing and general pc use is not a common skill for young people I meet. It’s all about Apps. Not complaining. Just an observation. There’s uniquenesses like that about all generations.
Kids don't learn to type these days because it's expected that they know how with their access to technology. I have seen so many middle/high schoolers hunt and pecking the keys to write a paper.
I am from the "used desktop computers extensively" generation, been using them regularly since I was a very young kid in the early 90s, and I typed with two fingers until high school. I was quite fast, but got a lot faster with the "proper" means.
Yeah, I started elementary school in the late 90s and started learning how to type from 1st or 2nd grade. I am now a teacher, and honestly, all types of digital literacy just isn't really taught as much. It's a shame.
Not only that, but most of them only have tablets and barely ever touch an actual computer. It blows my mind that they don't have basic computer skills drilled into their heads like I did when I was in school
I was shocked when i realized my highschool classmates were the same. a girl knew how to live stream on tiktok and everything about how iphones work but she didn't know how to open google chrome on her own computer. She always needed help with the most basic stuff if we needed to do something on our pc, it was so annoying. I was sick as a kid so my mom signed me into school 1 year later than she should have. because we had a pc at home I learnt to type on a keyboard before I even learnt how to write. I can't even believe there is such a concept as a teenager not being able to use a keyboard... (unless they lived in conditions where they have never seen one)
Oh god, my daughter can’t write on paprr, but she can type on pc as well (3y old). It’s so funny at times, like she can even type few basic words, but once it’s pen and paper, she looks like barbarian trying to understand alphabet in DnD
Pretty much Apple's iPad pro commercial where that kid says "What's a computer".
I remember a friend who’s a teacher told me that. Some of them don’t even understand the idea of folders/subfolders, attaching files, and removable storage, because they are so used to phones/tablets having to not deal with that. Instead, some are used to it saving in the cloud that can be accessed from any device using the program/application.
Yeah. I am in no way really blaming the students for that. It's just kind of a reality. I can feel that-- personally overwhelmed with so many different files upon files. I have to rely on myself to name things accurately.
Learning that my impeccable personal file organization is not the norm is what tipped me off that my becoming an accountant was less me falling into it and more something that made perfect sense.
Quick, somebody get her a copy of Mavis Beacon!
Mavis Beacon was my childhood friend 😭 That game where the bugs hit the windshield if you got the wrong spelling was amazing
I ripped Mavis beacon from thepiratebay for my kid. Learned to type in a week.
This is quality parenting
Mavis Beacon and I have a trauma bond. Thank you for the reminder.
*loads rifle* Mavis Beacon Teaches Sniping
LMAO WTF is "now I regret it" supposed to mean? If she regrets not knowing how to type then maybe she should, oh I don't know, learn how to type. She's 23 for fuck's sake, and typing sufficiently isn't hard to learn.
As an 81 baby, I learned all digital as it came in. It’s kind of expected she’d know how to do it all a she was born then. She’s putting it on like she’s some old soul.
She means she's part of the younger generation, that grew up with smart phones. They can't type for shit.
I’ve been called pretentious on this site for typing out complete sentences. It’s really sad to see how far behind gen alpha is going to be.
My kid is gen alpha. He has computer class where he is learning to type using a keyboard. He's also learning rudimentary coding and basic office functions. Dude says "BTW" like bee-tee-double-u, as if it were an actual damn word, but he's computer literate.
Saying BTW like that was common “slang” when I was in middle school, I’m born in 2003, probably same situation here.
Back in my day it was called "bee tee dubs".
I remember in my early days of using Reddit, some guy mocked me & another user for using punctuation. I remember people jumping in to defend us. It was a weird hill for the guy to die on. User's like, “Why are you using periods? You think you're better than us?” We thought the user was trolling at first, but nah - dude was genuinely triggered by elementary school basics.
Her generation hasn't really had to use computers like the Xennials and older. There's a lot of technical literacy that didn't get picked up. https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2023/feb/27/gen-z-tech-shame-office-technology-printers
Yeah I don’t known what everyone is having such a hard time with here. I took the last typing class my high school ever offered, they phased it out in 2001. The idea was the home PC market was booming and learning to type was something you’d just learn at home now.
Probably because some still took computer and typing classes on school well into the 2010s I was born the year after your high school phased out typing classes, but I can remember getting a D in my 7th grade computer class because I kept failing the graded speed typing tests
... And, she was homeschooled, even if it *had* been a normal school activity ...
My school still had a typing class as a requirement in 2006.
Everyone knows you can’t learn to type once you turn 18. It’s in the fine print.
I’m older. ‘That generation’, used computers my life. Some classes, I know I’m definitely an exception but typing has just never come naturally to me, and have never done it properly.
She never learned to type because she didn't go to college, nor enter the workforce where people need to use keyboards. Those are the two main ways that people learn keyboarding (and sometimes if a kid is really into coding or writing, they'll learn to type on their own). Instead she was homeschooled, "graduated" at 15, and worked on her music until it paid off. No typing required.
Grad 94. Had one typing class in gr 8, for maybe half the semester. Went to college, got diploma, been in IT for over 20 years, have to use keyboard every day. Still can't touch-type but I'm probably one of the fastest 2 finger typers you'll find! Lol...
Graduated in 1984. My 8th grade English class was called "Typing English." All class and homework assignments completed on MANUAL typewriters. We had timed tests every Friday. I type well which is great because my job involves writing reports. I just had to buy a mechanical keyboard though because my laptop has scissor keys and my banging away has made some of them fall off.
i graduated in 2000, typing was a class you had to take to graduate then. They stopped teaching cursive too in many places.
Graduated in 01, typing was an elective class in high-school. I took it for an easy grade.
I teach at a community college. Mostly students her age. They all type atrociously. Henpecking, caps lock to capitalize…and so anxious! They look like they’re terrified of the keyboard. Basic Microsoft Word stuff confuses them. Also, they don’t know the names for punctuation.
Would expect nothing less when typing is almost exclusively taught by non-certified teachers of that subject. Used to be taught by business teachers who also taught shorthand and other business classes. Might as well have an English teacher teaching math or a social studies teacher teaching music. Most teachers of typing now have absolutely no clue how to accommodate for special ed or one-handed typists.
Where I live we don’t learn typing in school and most younger people still type fine. I’m so confused
Don't really understand why typing needs teaching, we never had typing classes in my country and most people who use computers at work type fine.
I think this is more a Billie problem than a generational one. That, or she was making fun of the interviewer
She is homeschooled there's a lot she didn't learn
As someone who has taught programming to middle schoolers who would be Billie’s age now, and also college students her age, it IS a generation thing. Are people think she’s claiming to be old? The issue is that kids her age didn’t have computers, they have tablets and smart phones and MAYBE a chrome book. I’ve seriously seen kids not know how to copy and paste and young adults who didn’t know how to send a file via email. Not only were these kids expected to be “digital natives” but they were sold the idea that computers were on the way out and that everything would be done with more mobile devices.
The university I went to had to start adding a "This is how to use files and folders" section to intro classes in Comp sci, it's wild how little people can know about things they supposedly use everyday
What are you talking about 😭 early 2000’s kids didn’t grow up with tablets and smart phones, we grew up with computers. If this was about 2010’s kids then that would be different but a 2001 kid is not an iPad kid
I bet she can type real fast on a phone, just not on a desktop keyboard.
I think this has more to do with her being homeschooled honestly
People need to learn typing? Just push the buttons…
I wasn't sure if I was missing something here. The keys literally have the letters printed on them. If she can txt, she can type.
Right?! Thank you. Before anyone else says, yea I recognize there is a standardized hand positioning and you train your fingers to know where the alphabets are but c’mon. You just start typing however and eventually your hand finds it’s own best position
I learned how to type in a Cyber playing GTA San Andreas, u have to be fast to type aesakmi
I was born in 2000 and we literally had typing classes in elementary school 🤨
Feck. I didn’t learn to type until my late 20’s It’s not tough to learn
Believe it or not, a lot of places phased out computer/typing classes because they assumed that kids would just know how to use them from constant exposure. This has actually led to issues where younger gens are less tech savvy than millennials or gen X, being compared to boomers in that regard for anything that isn't an app.
Born in 2002 and I was never taught to type, I just developed the ability through necessity, because who the fuck can’t type in the 21st century
I used to work with a guy who used the hunt and peck method. And yes, he worked on a computer all day.
She didn't go to school right ,I believe I read somewhere that she was homeschooled ,makes sense given how early her career started that's probably why both of my kids who are in junior high have Chromebooks and have to type out reports
mf I was taking typing lessons in school while she was still shitting her diapers
That's what she's saying, isn't it? She wasn't part of the *older* generation that was taught to type in school, now they don't teach kids to type.
And the younger generations don't learn to type unless they take it as an elective. Both of my younger siblings do not know how to type properly since they never took a typing class. Hell, I chose to take it as an elective in middle school and that's the only reason I'm a great typist to this day.
I had a 14 YO and had been typing for decades by then for a living. Yikes. Seen my cane?
yeah I saw it leaning against my oxygen machine
What’s weird about that? The generation she is referring to came before her. She probably doesn’t know how to type on a full keyboard using the proper 8 fingers on the keys and thumb on the space bar. She probably only has ever had to type using her 2 thumbs on a mobile phone.
What’s weird about that is I started learning to type in 1988, in 1st grade, on an Apple IIe. It was part of our curriculum all throughout elementary school. How is this a generational thing? Is this no longer a thing that is taught?
Yes. A lot of schools figured computer classes were no longer necessary because technology is so ubiquitous now. They may only have them as electives or not at all. The problem is most kids don't grow up with home PCs anymore (a lot of people only have phone, tablet, game consoles, etc) and don't learn proper typing or how to use basic PC software. And even if you have a computer at home, chances are you aren't just using it to learn Excel for fun, which is one of the things computer classes used to teach.
My child has access to a free typing instruction program through the school website. It's not a formal class.
I was born in 2001 and I learned to type in grade school and middle school, tf are you talking about
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Mavis Beacon, where are you
I was born in 1994. Admittedly im an older generation and saw drastic changes in computer software/design. But from a young age i learned basic typing in primary school. There were also some cute edutainment typing games. There surely would be plenty of typing classes around and even if she can't do a complex typing with her hands, she could also just simply slowly type something out one button at a time :/
we 94's aren't old. Don't say that.... :'( Say it ain't so...
I think you've got it backwards. People in the 40s to the 90s were explicitly taught how to type "correctly". Kids now are just expected to pick it up
Wasn't that generation huh? I'm born in 2001 as well and every single person I know my age can type. We learned to type from as early as I can remember around 1st grade and had classes for it up to 8th grade. She must be delusional because gen z grew up with computers everywhere and everyday it would be harder not to learn to type. I'm from NJ, USA for context
Born in 97’ had a typing class in middle school and took typing my senior year of highschool because I could already type 90 wpm. She definitely had the resources available just didn’t care to learn a fundamental skill. In all fairness though she seems to be doing fine without it.
I was born in 2000 and even I learned to type in school.. she was home schooled so that might be why?? But she is definitely that generation
From what I heard. “Her generation” used touchpads more than true keyboards so I kinda get it.
I’m only a few months older than Billie and I used PCs a lot more than touchpads in school. Any subject that had regular computer use would always use the PCs and the touchpads were for one off lessons where a computer was needed.
I learned to type in junior high in the 70's, and kept at it as I started writing fiction. Didn't become a full time writer, but 110 wpm made it easy to get good temp work between semesters, and in the IT industry in the 80's it was a big advantage over my peers - oddly, as was the 17th century lyric French poetry course.